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Welcome to the group Raquel!

I think you will notice that there are many women at different stages in

the ttc on this board. I for one have a septate uterus and miscarried back

in March of last year at approx. 10 weeks. I am currently pregnant and have

made it to 17 weeks 2 days, and everything looks good so far I think it is

really a case by case basis. I am sorry to hear of your loss but there is

lots of us women out there that have great knowledge and support on the

subject. As for where the baby is implanted I think that the odds are much

better if it is not implanted on the septum since there is usually no blood

flow to the septum. Good luck at your appt. and keep us posted.

Meredith

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Hi,

I am almost 7 weeks pregnant and i just found out that i have Septum

in my uterus. Recently, i had miscarried at 4 months. I do not want

to go through that again. I go to a specialist tuesday to find out

where the baby is lying. Some say if it is lying in a good spot then

the baby will be fine? Is this true? Has anyone experienced a healthy

pregnacy while having this symptom? Please someone help!

Thanks all,

Raquel

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> Hi,

> I am almost 7 weeks pregnant and i just found out that i have

Septum

> in my uterus. Recently, i had miscarried at 4 months. I do not

want

> to go through that again. I go to a specialist tuesday to find out

> where the baby is lying. Some say if it is lying in a good spot

then

> the baby will be fine? Is this true? Has anyone experienced a

healthy

> pregnacy while having this symptom? Please someone help!

> Thanks all,

> Raquel

Dear Raquel,

Welcome to the board and congrats on your pregnancy. I gave birth

to a healthy 33-week old baby in July 2001. I had no idea I had a

septate uterus at that time, it was discovered at the c-section. (I

have since had the septum removed). " They " say that many women do

not know they have SU, especially those that give birth vaginally.

Others are not so lucky with the pregnancy outcome. It's great that

you are being monitored closely. I hope your baby has implanted on

a good spot....we'll be thinking of you on tuesday.

Take care,

Mindy

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Raquel

Welcome to the group, and congratulations on your current pregnancy.

I am also very sorry to hear of your loss.

Can I ask how your septum was diagnosed? Did they find it during an

ultrasound? If so, you should know it is impossible to properly dx

an MA with an ultrasound.

There are women on this board with septums who have delivered healthy

babies. Research also suggests there are lots of women with MAs who

have no pg problems and thus never find out they have an MA. I have

heard that where the embryo implants can certainly have an effect on

pg outcome if you have a septum.

I wish you continued good luck with your pg! And let us know what

the specialist says. Is it a reproductive endocrinologist or a

perinatologist, by any chance?

Tina

31, 2 m/c, SU resected

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Hi Raquel,

Congratulations on your pregnancy! You must be on quite a

rollercoaster - I'm glad you found this group. I'm so sorry to hear

about your loss ... let me tell you a little about how uterine septa

can affect pregnancies.

There are two kinds of uteri that can have septums. The first is the

septate uterus, which is normal on the outside but has a wall coming

down the middle of the uterus. This wall is fibrous with little to no

blood flow and can go either partway down or all the way down to the

cervix. The other kind of uterus is the bicornate uterus, which has

an indent on the external top of the uterus (which can be shallow,

think heartshaped, or deep, think rabbit-ears) and can have either a

fibrous septum or a dividing wall made up of the same tissue as the

other uterine walls (which has bloodflow). Unfortunately, which

uterus you have can't really be determined in a pregnant uterus. In a

non-pregnant uterus, an MRI or exploratory surgery can be done to

figure out your individual structure.

Early pregnancy loss (first trimester) can occur if an embryo

implants on a fibrous septum b/c there isn't enough bloodflow to

nourish the embryo. Once you seen the heartbeat on US, this worry is

usually past. This is where you might hear people saying that they

are watching where the embryo is implanted.

Later pregnancy loss (like yours - I'm sorry) can occur because of

pre-term labor but usually happen *before* the anomaly is known

about. Now that you know you have a funky uterus, your doctors can

work to keep that baby inside you longer. One way to do so would be

for your doctor to frequently check your cervix for signs of preterm

labor (such as shortening in length and " dimpling " , or thinning out

of the cervix). Some doctors may put in a preventative cerclage (a

stitch to hold the cervix closed) ... it is not necessary in all

women. If your cervix does change your doctor might recommend bed

rest, extra fluids and maybe even more frequent monitoring.

You've got such alot going on ... please let us know how you are

doing adapting to all this new knowledge. I'm sure other women here

will say hello and welcome! There are quite a few expecting any day

now and others who are in the beginning or middle stages of

pregnancy. If you want, hop over to the " Photos " link of our website

and check out the " Our Kids " folder for pictures of some happy

healthy wacky womb babies :-) We've even had some twins!!!

Take care of yourself,

28, dx undetermined

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I recently lost a baby impanted on the " point " of my uterus. Saw

the heartbeat at 6 weeks (!!) during the day and lost the baby that

night. So this lead me to believe I might be septum instead of

bicornate. But if I had little or no bloodflow, there wouldn't even

be a heartbeat at all? I am so confused. This stuff is confusing!

> Hi Raquel,

> Congratulations on your pregnancy! You must be on quite a

> rollercoaster - I'm glad you found this group. I'm so sorry to

hear

> about your loss ... let me tell you a little about how uterine

septa

> can affect pregnancies.

>

> There are two kinds of uteri that can have septums. The first is

the

> septate uterus, which is normal on the outside but has a wall

coming

> down the middle of the uterus. This wall is fibrous with little to

no

> blood flow and can go either partway down or all the way down to

the

> cervix. The other kind of uterus is the bicornate uterus, which

has

> an indent on the external top of the uterus (which can be shallow,

> think heartshaped, or deep, think rabbit-ears) and can have either

a

> fibrous septum or a dividing wall made up of the same tissue as

the

> other uterine walls (which has bloodflow). Unfortunately, which

> uterus you have can't really be determined in a pregnant uterus.

In a

> non-pregnant uterus, an MRI or exploratory surgery can be done to

> figure out your individual structure.

>

> Early pregnancy loss (first trimester) can occur if an embryo

> implants on a fibrous septum b/c there isn't enough bloodflow to

> nourish the embryo. Once you seen the heartbeat on US, this worry

is

> usually past. This is where you might hear people saying that

they

> are watching where the embryo is implanted.

>

> Later pregnancy loss (like yours - I'm sorry) can occur because of

> pre-term labor but usually happen *before* the anomaly is known

> about. Now that you know you have a funky uterus, your doctors can

> work to keep that baby inside you longer. One way to do so would

be

> for your doctor to frequently check your cervix for signs of

preterm

> labor (such as shortening in length and " dimpling " , or thinning

out

> of the cervix). Some doctors may put in a preventative cerclage (a

> stitch to hold the cervix closed) ... it is not necessary in all

> women. If your cervix does change your doctor might recommend bed

> rest, extra fluids and maybe even more frequent monitoring.

>

> You've got such alot going on ... please let us know how you are

> doing adapting to all this new knowledge. I'm sure other women

here

> will say hello and welcome! There are quite a few expecting any

day

> now and others who are in the beginning or middle stages of

> pregnancy. If you want, hop over to the " Photos " link of our

website

> and check out the " Our Kids " folder for pictures of some happy

> healthy wacky womb babies :-) We've even had some twins!!!

>

> Take care of yourself,

>

> 28, dx undetermined

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Thank you all for all of your good advice! It has really been a great

help. I went to the doctors yesterday, they said the baby was fine

growing normally but they didnt see the septum. They saw a black mark

which was blood, which i have been spotting brown blood for a couple

of days now. They are doing more research with the doctor that

orginally said i had a septum in my uterus and are going to get back

to me hopefully ASAP. They said it is very hard to detect the septum

when we are pregnant. My doctor also put me out on bed rest , she

said it won't help any but i feel better knowing that i am resting.

I just hate sitting here wating for something to happen. I think more

then anything i am scared to have another miscarriage.

Thanks everyone,

raquel,su

> > Hi Raquel,

> > Congratulations on your pregnancy! You must be on quite a

> > rollercoaster - I'm glad you found this group. I'm so sorry to

> hear

> > about your loss ... let me tell you a little about how uterine

> septa

> > can affect pregnancies.

> >

> > There are two kinds of uteri that can have septums. The first is

> the

> > septate uterus, which is normal on the outside but has a wall

> coming

> > down the middle of the uterus. This wall is fibrous with little

to

> no

> > blood flow and can go either partway down or all the way down to

> the

> > cervix. The other kind of uterus is the bicornate uterus, which

> has

> > an indent on the external top of the uterus (which can be

shallow,

> > think heartshaped, or deep, think rabbit-ears) and can have

either

> a

> > fibrous septum or a dividing wall made up of the same tissue as

> the

> > other uterine walls (which has bloodflow). Unfortunately, which

> > uterus you have can't really be determined in a pregnant uterus.

> In a

> > non-pregnant uterus, an MRI or exploratory surgery can be done to

> > figure out your individual structure.

> >

> > Early pregnancy loss (first trimester) can occur if an embryo

> > implants on a fibrous septum b/c there isn't enough bloodflow to

> > nourish the embryo. Once you seen the heartbeat on US, this worry

> is

> > usually past. This is where you might hear people saying that

> they

> > are watching where the embryo is implanted.

> >

> > Later pregnancy loss (like yours - I'm sorry) can occur because

of

> > pre-term labor but usually happen *before* the anomaly is known

> > about. Now that you know you have a funky uterus, your doctors

can

> > work to keep that baby inside you longer. One way to do so would

> be

> > for your doctor to frequently check your cervix for signs of

> preterm

> > labor (such as shortening in length and " dimpling " , or thinning

> out

> > of the cervix). Some doctors may put in a preventative cerclage

(a

> > stitch to hold the cervix closed) ... it is not necessary in all

> > women. If your cervix does change your doctor might recommend bed

> > rest, extra fluids and maybe even more frequent monitoring.

> >

> > You've got such alot going on ... please let us know how you are

> > doing adapting to all this new knowledge. I'm sure other women

> here

> > will say hello and welcome! There are quite a few expecting any

> day

> > now and others who are in the beginning or middle stages of

> > pregnancy. If you want, hop over to the " Photos " link of our

> website

> > and check out the " Our Kids " folder for pictures of some happy

> > healthy wacky womb babies :-) We've even had some twins!!!

> >

> > Take care of yourself,

> >

> > 28, dx undetermined

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