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Greetings all

I would like to add one thing. Those of us who are in their 60's or older have

another problem. What worked for us for years starts creating problems. I have

found that out the hard way in the last two or 3 months. Medicines I could take

easily even a year ago cause problems today.

As we get older our systems change and what helps someone in their younger years

can turn around and bite you in the butt 1 year later.

For me it has created a bit of a nightmare as I have a couple of medications

that do not go too well with the new Glucophage they are trying on me.

Unfortunately Digoxin and Inderal's action is changed by the Glucophage and vice

versa. They help keep my heart beating in 4/4 time and my Parkinson's tremors

at a minimum. Today had an episode with my heart doing the cha cha, weird

feeling. I let my doc know and then rested till it got back into regular beats.

Will see him again on Tuesday, sooner if it does it again. It may have been

something else I ingested.

Connie, I had a similar problem several years back, when I was prescribed a

sleeping aid for my irregular sleep patterns. Took two Halcion tablets and woke

up in the hospital three days later. I did not know where I was, it was a room

in the newest wing of the hospital which I had never been in. Evidently I kinda

scared everyone with sleep walking and generally out of it condition.

Just this past 6 months or so, the Immovane, a short acting sleeping aid, caused

similar problems with a dose more than 7.5 mgm. Even that dose can cause

problems some days. So if I cannot fall asleep I will only take half a tablet.

Many nights now I get to sleep without any medication aid.

Blessings

+Dave

AS/RS/RA/PA/Parkinson's/diabetic. Older than dirt

" Everyday I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I've

stayed alive. "

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Hi Leonie,

I was on MTX 22.5mg tablet form for nearly 6 years, and I absolutely dreaded my

day of taking it. I felt so nautious and I lost a lot of my hair and kept

getting mouth abcesses. I think for a lot of people it's not good, but it is

cheap!!! I didn't get access to the biologics til 2007, when I was put on Humira

but that made me worse. Now I've just started Enbrel. They are bringing out new

drugs all the time, but it is very much trial and error. I wish I knew then what

I know now. You are not a winger, it's just that MTX is not for you.

 

Someone on here said MTX in injection form was better tolerated, maybe that's

something to think about.

 

Best wishes

x

I

From: mumpup2000 <leoniecent@...>

Subject: [ ] reactions to meds

Date: Monday, 23 March, 2009, 12:02 AM

Hi all, What's wrong with me ? I hate MTX and just want to die when i take it,

since i feel so lousy. I suppose i just have to go to bed and stay there when I

take it ?? I thought it was meant to give you a life back, not take it away ?

Other people seem to tolerate meds well and love taking all the meds they can

lay their hands on, but not me... I hate the stuff. Maybe it's my constitution

or something, but there doesn't seem to be any allowance for people who cant

tolerate the drugs very well - even if it's psychologicaly, it's still real. I

feel like a whinger and a hypochondriac. I can't go on like this... what can I

do ?Does it ever get any better ?

best,

leonie

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Hi L,

Me again. Meant to say are you also taking Folic Acid as MXT depletes it from

your body. If I remember it's something like 5mg per week the day after your

MXT.

x

From: mumpup2000 <leoniecent@...>

Subject: [ ] reactions to meds

Date: Monday, 23 March, 2009, 12:02 AM

Hi all, What's wrong with me ? I hate MTX and just want to die when i take it,

since i feel so lousy. I suppose i just have to go to bed and stay there when I

take it ?? I thought it was meant to give you a life back, not take it away ?

Other people seem to tolerate meds well and love taking all the meds they can

lay their hands on, but not me... I hate the stuff. Maybe it's my constitution

or something, but there doesn't seem to be any allowance for people who cant

tolerate the drugs very well - even if it's psychologicaly, it's still real. I

feel like a whinger and a hypochondriac. I can't go on like this... what can I

do ?Does it ever get any better ?

best,

leonie

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I have heard from other RA patients that mtx wipes them out and makes them feel

miserable. Sure there are some people that aren't affected by mtx this way, and

for them, mtx is a good management option.  I don't think it's a matter of

loving taking all the drugs they can lay their hands on per se, but the goal is

for each of us to find a treatment plan that matches our physiology and our

budgets.  It's totally valid for you to call your rheum and say that mtx is

taking away all your energy and keeping you in bed.  As others have said, you're

not a hypochondriac.  If you have RA then you deserve a treatment program to

manage the symptoms, it's no less real than cancer, diabetes, or any other

disease.  Some insurance plans require that you fail certain drugs before moving

to more expensive options.  Having the bad experience with mtx might just make

it possible to try another drug like a biologic.  Feel better!  Kate F

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From: mumpup2000 <leoniecent@...>

Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:02:31 PM

Subject: [ ] reactions to meds

Hi all, What's wrong with me ? I hate MTX and just want to die when i take it,

since i feel so lousy. I suppose i just have to go to bed and stay there when I

take it ?? I thought it was meant to give you a life back, not take it away ?

Other people seem to tolerate meds well and love taking all the meds they can

lay their hands on, but not me... I hate the stuff. Maybe it's my constitution

or something, but there doesn't seem to be any allowance for people who cant

tolerate the drugs very well - even if it's psychologicaly, it's still real. I

feel like a whinger and a hypochondriac. I can't go on like this... what can I

do ?Does it ever get any better ?

best,

leonie

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My doctor gave me an RX for Folic Acid to help with the side effects of MTX plus

I use Phenergan for any nausea. Ask the doctors to give you an RX for those and

hopefully they will help.

Hugs,

Judy

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> Hi all, What's wrong with me ? I hate MTX and just want to die when i take

it, since i feel so lousy. I suppose i just have to go to bed and stay there

when I take it ?? I thought it was meant to give you a life back, not take it

away ? Other people seem to tolerate meds well and love taking all the meds

they can lay their hands on, but not me... I hate the stuff. Maybe it's my

constitution or something, but there doesn't seem to be any allowance for people

who cant tolerate the drugs very well - even if it's psychologicaly, it's still

real. I feel like a whinger and a hypochondriac. I can't go on like this...

what can I do ?Does it ever get any better ?

> best,

> leonie

>

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Leonie

I had the same problems with the MTX when I was taking the pills. I am now

taking the injections. I am only down for a day when I take it and the

reaction is not nearly as severe.I went off it foe awhile and could tell the

difference especially in my knees. I have been back on it for awhile and my

knees are getting better.

Heidibug

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:02 PM, mumpup2000 <leoniecent@...> wrote:

> Hi all, What's wrong with me ? I hate MTX and just want to die when i

> take it, since i feel so lousy. I suppose i just have to go to bed and stay

> there when I take it ?? I thought it was meant to give you a life back, not

> take it away ? Other people seem to tolerate meds well and love taking all

> the meds they can lay their hands on, but not me... I hate the stuff. Maybe

> it's my constitution or something, but there doesn't seem to be any

> allowance for people who cant tolerate the drugs very well - even if it's

> psychologicaly, it's still real. I feel like a whinger and a hypochondriac.

> I can't go on like this... what can I do ?Does it ever get any better ?

> best,

> leonie

>

>

>

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