Guest guest Posted May 14, 1999 Report Share Posted May 14, 1999 << I go to accupuncture regularly. Lately we've been " clearing heat " . >> I've had 2 acupuncture treatments now. The accupuncturist said that she is pretty sure that she can get rid of the heat sensation, which is one of the most problematic symptoms for me. She gave me a list of foods that are " cooling for excess heat " . Wheat, tomatoes, and oranges are on this list! This is contradictory to what I have read in cea literature. I have been avoiding citrus fruits and tomatoes. This is hard to do when you live in California and you can just go outside and pick an orange or a tomato! How do you know if a food is a trigger for you? I have a red nose, one spot of pink and swelling on one cheek, ocular involvement, and the very annoying prickles and the feeling of being very hot. Do you react right away if a food is a trigger? I can only tell that alcohol is a trigger, sometimes.The symptoms are transitory and seem to have a life of their own. Any advice? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 1999 Report Share Posted May 15, 1999 I too was told what sort of things not to eat. Tomatoes were one of the first ones she said not to eat, unless they are cooked. Also, no citrus. We are also treating my bad digestion..working on the liver and spleen. She told me not to eat any eat any raw vegetables or fruit because it's hard to digest, but that's just for me and my particular situation. Until recently I wasn't sure of any triggers so I have been testing myself. Tomatoes (which I love) are one of the worst. It is almost immediate. Strange. Also, spicy food. No more fajitas for me. Other than those I'm not sure of any other triggers yet....except for stress. My face gets red and spotty and I get bumps. It gets hot and stings. I'm not sure what to tell you but that seems odd to me that your accupuncturist would mention the things that seem to be the most harmful to us. Most other " heat " causing things are obvious, like pepper of any kind, hot spices and in general, things that are meant to warm you up. It's pretty basic. One thing I would like to ask others out there...it's about Metrogel. I had a flare the other day which was awful. (tomato induced) Everytime I use Metrogel I get the little papules and very oily skin. So, as an experiment I stopped using it and just washed my face and put on a tiny amount of jojoba oil on wet skin. My skin looks incredibly good. It even feels good. I don't have one papule and my face isn't oily at all. Has anyone else had this happen? Metrogel causing the problems? Thanks. Oakmoss wrote: Original Article: /list/rosacea-support/?start=4425 > > > > << I go to accupuncture regularly. Lately we've been " clearing heat " . >> > > I've had 2 acupuncture treatments now. The accupuncturist said that she is > pretty sure that she can get rid of the heat sensation, which is one of the > most problematic symptoms for me. > She gave me a list of foods that are " cooling for excess heat " . Wheat, > tomatoes, and oranges are on this list! This is contradictory to what I have > read in cea literature. I have been avoiding citrus fruits and tomatoes. > This is hard to do when you live in California and you can just go outside > and pick an orange or a tomato! > How do you know if a food is a trigger for you? I have a red nose, one spot > of pink and swelling on one cheek, ocular involvement, and the very annoying > prickles and the feeling of being very hot. Do you react right away if a > food is a trigger? I can only tell that alcohol is a trigger, sometimes.The > symptoms are transitory and seem to have a life of their own. Any advice? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 1999 Report Share Posted May 15, 1999 In a message dated 05/15/1999 5:28:23 AM !!!First Boot!!!, JaGorbe@... writes: > How do you know if a food is a trigger for you? I have a red nose, one spot > of pink and swelling on one cheek, ocular involvement, and the very annoying > prickles and the feeling of being very hot. That very accurately describes my current status. Generally, only certain alcoholic beverages give me a hot red face that lasts any length of time. Occasionally if I'm reckless enough to use the wrong product on my face this will happen as well. The wrong foods (eg, spicy) usually don't cause problems until the next day, and usually then it's a new red bump or spot. These seem to disappear within a day or two if I drink lots of water and take extra Evening Primrose Oil. Also, if I'm suddenly embarrassed I get red, and now I really hate the feeling, because I think I'm causing even more facial damage. So I avoid these obvious triggers like the plague. And, as Bill so succinctly stated, I've become as frightened of the sun as a vampire. Diane ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 1999 Report Share Posted May 15, 1999 Oakmoss, I know that drying out my skin too much causes the redness and papules/pustules. This is supposed to damage the oil grands, setting the stage for more flares and breakouts. It also sets the stage for your skin to be more reactive to products which causes more flares, etc. Could it be that the metrogel is too drying for you and then your face reacts to it by pumping out more sebum? I know that's why Dr. Nase has said that jojoba and safflower oils actually may prevent breakouts/redness because it keeps your skin moisturized and doesn't damage the oil glands. It stops that reactive cycle from starting. I used to use Metrogel. It was a bit drying for me. Also, it didn't seem to prevent bumps at all. It just toned down the red some. A lot of people on the board don't like Metrogel because it didn't help all that much. In your case, it sounds counterproductive. Take care! Matija <7hk1dp$5ln-egroups> wrote: Original Article: /list/rosacea-support/?start=4440 > I too was told what sort of things not to eat. Tomatoes were one of the first ones she said not to eat, unless they are cooked. Also, no citrus. We are also treating my bad digestion..working on the liver and spleen. She told me not to eat any eat any raw vegetables or fruit because it's hard to digest, but that's just for me and my particular situation. > > Until recently I wasn't sure of any triggers so I have been testing myself. Tomatoes (which I love) are one of the worst. It is almost immediate. Strange. Also, spicy food. No more fajitas for me. Other than those I'm not sure of any other triggers yet....except for stress. My face gets red and spotty and I get bumps. It gets hot and stings. > > I'm not sure what to tell you but that seems odd to me that your accupuncturist would mention the things that seem to be the most harmful to us. Most other " heat " causing things are obvious, like pepper of any kind, hot spices and in general, things that are meant to warm you up. It's pretty basic. > > One thing I would like to ask others out there...it's about Metrogel. I had a flare the other day which was awful. (tomato induced) Everytime I use Metrogel I get the little papules and very oily skin. So, as an experiment I stopped using it and just washed my face and put on a tiny amount of jojoba oil on wet skin. My skin looks incredibly good. It even feels good. I don't have one papule and my face isn't oily at all. Has anyone else had this happen? Metrogel causing the problems? Thanks. > > Oakmoss > > > wrote: > Original Article: /list/rosacea-support/?start=4425 > > > > > > > > << I go to accupuncture regularly. Lately we've been " clearing heat " . >> > > > > I've had 2 acupuncture treatments now. The accupuncturist said that she is > > pretty sure that she can get rid of the heat sensation, which is one of the > > most problematic symptoms for me. > > She gave me a list of foods that are " cooling for excess heat " . Wheat, > > tomatoes, and oranges are on this list! This is contradictory to what I have > > read in cea literature. I have been avoiding citrus fruits and tomatoes. > > This is hard to do when you live in California and you can just go outside > > and pick an orange or a tomato! > > How do you know if a food is a trigger for you? I have a red nose, one spot > > of pink and swelling on one cheek, ocular involvement, and the very annoying > > prickles and the feeling of being very hot. Do you react right away if a > > food is a trigger? I can only tell that alcohol is a trigger, sometimes.The > > symptoms are transitory and seem to have a life of their own. Any advice? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 1999 Report Share Posted May 15, 1999 In a message dated 5/15/99 6:46:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Enzanni@... writes: << The wrong foods (eg, spicy) usually don't cause problems until the next day, and usually then it's a new red bump or spot. These seem to disappear within a day or two if I drink lots of water and take extra Evening Primrose Oil. >> With the posts from this group and some posts by Marji on AOL, I started taking primrose oil again. I had taken it for years but I like to cycle on supplements. One time on an " off " cycle, I never started again. It was a great nudge and I like it. My skin doesn't seem as dry and that goes for my face too. So, this time, I'm going to keep right on taking it. Thanks Esther ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 1999 Report Share Posted May 15, 1999 In a message dated 5/15/99 3:45:03 PM, Enzanni writes: <<The wrong foods (eg, spicy) usually don't cause problems until the next day, >> Very interesting. I went out to an Italian reataurant tonight and had vegetarian lasagne - spicy, wheat, dairy, tomatoes. I'd better get out the fan for tomorrow! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 1999 Report Share Posted May 16, 1999 Yes, I think that's exactly what it's doing. It's mostly my nose. I could wring the oil out of it. I have been using the jojoba oil regularly. It really helps. It's so soothing. Thanks. Oakmoss <7hktf2$ijg-egroups> wrote: Original Article: /list/rosacea-support/?start=4455 > Oakmoss, I know that drying out my skin too much causes the redness and papules/pustules. Could it be that the metrogel is too drying for you and then your face reacts to it by pumping out more sebum? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 1999 Report Share Posted May 16, 1999 In a message dated 5/16/99 2:19:52 AM Central Daylight Time, oakmoss@... writes: << es, I think that's exactly what it's doing. It's mostly my nose. I could wring the oil out of it. I have been using the jojoba oil regularly. It really helps. It's so soothing. Thanks. Oakmoss >> Brings back memories. I used to rub my fingernails over my oily nose. Did marvelously on the nails, but I got detention for wearing fingernail polish! Teach was not impressed when I told her what it actually was ! Oh well Gail(52) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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