Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 In a message dated 5/10/99 6:02:32 PM hollands@... (Holland) writes: >Can you give us some medical proof that our bodies are dripping with excess >mucous and pus? I simply do not believe this is true. >I think you have something to sell and are using scare tactics to get people >to try what you have to sell. Im a bit curious about this myself. I will look up the web site that mentioned, but frankly Ive about had it with special diets! Ive been on too many of them. I know that there are people in this group that are highly allergic to certain foods and have to eat a certain way. I also agree that food can play a role in the health of the skin and body. What I am tired off is the FEAR of eating anything that might cause a reaction or build up whatever toxins in our bodies. The last thing that I need right now is to fast and drop more weight! There are many people in this group that dont have alot of food triggers. There are some of us that react to environmental triggers more than to food. I also believe that this is a vascular disorder more than anything. Im all for looking into anything that might help this disease, but I dont think that the answer is just in what foods that we eat. That is a part of the problem, but not all of it. This disease seems way too complicated to me for an improvement to be seen after 4 days. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 Can you give us some medical proof that our bodies are dripping with excess mucous and pus? I simply do not believe this is true. I think you have something to sell and are using scare tactics to get people to try what you have to sell. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 and group buddies, I firmly believe that changes in your diet are very important in treating rosacea. I have been eating a diet which eliminates mucus causing foods since my symptoms first began, and I have no doubt that being as careful as I am with food is a huge factor in the improvement of my skin. However, I do want to say that even after this long-term change in my diet, I still have to use my metrogel, and avoid alcohol in my facial products, etc...etc... The diet makes the symptoms controllable, but whether it will " cure " the rosacea or not remains to be seen. I too am hopeful, but if it works, it takes a long, long time. I am sure that fasting will help your face temporarily. As I've mentioned before, if I don't eat for a long time, my face is clearly paler. Since eating anything changes my face color slightly, and eating trigger foods changes it dramatically, I believe that this is purely a result of not putting food into the body, not that the fasting is actually fixing anything. On the other hand, I've heard that cleansing the liver and bowel can have long-term benefits for many conditions, and if fasting is part of this process and therefore part of the dietary changes, then I can see the possibility of a long-term benefit also. I have not yet got around to this inner cleansing, and haven't the nerve to attempt even a one-day fast since the result would undoubtably be one of two things: a hypoglycemic coma, or a hyperglycemic coma after the resulting binge. I am currently very happy with the condition of my skin. According to my derm it is currently almost impossible to tell that I have rosacea, and it appears that the progression of the disease has been arrested (knock on wood-isn't that what they say?) I am certain that diet is a big factor, but it seems unlikely that it will be " the " cure. We can always hope! Kerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 > Can you give us some medical proof that our bodies are dripping with excess > mucous and pus? I simply do not believe this is true. > > I think you have something to sell and are using scare tactics to get people > to try what you have to sell. How the heck do you expect me to answer that.. how can I prove that you have excess pus? Everyone is different.. but if you have any sort of inflamation which I assume since this is a rosacea group.. you'll have excess pus in that region. The idea is get rid of it so the skin can heal. I am selling nothing, and if you decide not to try this, that's your decision. I wouldn't be on here preaching if it didn't already show positive results for me. D. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 > and group buddies, > > I firmly believe that changes in your diet are very important in treating > rosacea. I have been eating a diet which eliminates mucus causing foods > since my symptoms first began, and I have no doubt that being as careful as > I am with food is a huge factor in the improvement of my skin. However, I > do want to say that even after this long-term change in my diet, I still > have to use my metrogel, and avoid alcohol in my facial products, > etc...etc... The diet makes the symptoms controllable, but whether it will > " cure " the rosacea or not remains to be seen. I too am hopeful, but if it > works, it takes a long, long time. > > I am sure that fasting will help your face temporarily. As I've mentioned > before, if I don't eat for a long time, my face is clearly paler. Since > eating anything changes my face color slightly, and eating trigger foods > changes it dramatically, I believe that this is purely a result of not > putting food into the body, not that the fasting is actually fixing > anything. On the other hand, I've heard that cleansing the liver and bowel > can have long-term benefits for many conditions, and if fasting is part of > this process and therefore part of the dietary changes, then I can see the > possibility of a long-term benefit also. I have not yet got around to this > inner cleansing, and haven't the nerve to attempt even a one-day fast since > the result would undoubtably be one of two things: a hypoglycemic coma, or a > hyperglycemic coma after the resulting binge. I am currently very happy > with the condition of my skin. According to my derm it is currently almost > impossible to tell that I have rosacea, and it appears that the progression > of the disease has been arrested (knock on wood-isn't that what they say?) > I am certain that diet is a big factor, but it seems unlikely that it will > be " the " cure. We can always hope! > Kerry It's not a matter of just avoiding them though.. you have to kick start your system into getting rid of the mucus for about the first month.. then basically maintain a good diet for the rest. However, you don't not have to totally avoid mucus producing foods, or even junk food. You just need about a month to kickstart the healing. I'm on day 4 and I definitely notice a difference believe it or not. I know the world is very cynical.. but I'm not selling anything.. the guy who sells the diet most closely to what I'm on is at www.clear-skin.com .. and I'd be happy to share the basic ideals of the diet. But I'd rather go through the whole thing to make sure it's definitely the answer. It can get a bit messy at times, and it's hard to do. But remember, it's only a month. D. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 1999 Report Share Posted May 11, 1999 , So why the connection with spicy foods and wines, etc., etc.? Are those mucus/pus producing as well? Diane ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 1999 Report Share Posted May 11, 1999 I have no doubt it will be an incredible success. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 1999 Report Share Posted May 11, 1999 > So why the connection with spicy foods and wines, etc., etc.? Are those > mucus/pus producing as well? I would say unlikely. But they do cause vaso-dilation (facial blood vessel dilation) - which in turn causes more redness and more chance of inflammation. Reid (a mucus cynic). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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