Re: Dermatologist on radio, HerbaCort, & Chinese herbs

[Guest guest]

,

Do you have an email address for the dermatologist? Or a snail mail address?

I live in England at it would be a bit pricey for me to phone her. I have

read about that herbal cortisone product you mentioned. It is by HerbaLabs

(www.herbalabs.com). It was someone on this eGroup that wrote about it a few

weeks ago. I am quite interested in this product because topical steroids

were the most effective treatment for me, except that they became

ineffective after some time, so I wonder if the herbal cortisone would also

be ineffective for me.

The Chinese herbs you're taking, do you know what's in them? I'm just about

the reach the end of a course which I've been on for 3 months, and have

pretty much decided not to continue with these particular ones, mainly

because each month has cost me US $180, and the only effect I've experience

is for my rosacea to get worse. I've emailed the doctor and he says that

toxins are still being eliminated from my body and I need to continue taking

the herbs until there is a clear up.

Instead, I've decided to take another approach. There is a local Chinese

herbal practitioner in my area who says that if my rosacea was brought on by

stress, they can cure the stress and therefore the rosacea. The only problem

is that these approaches can take months, plenty of opportunity for them to

make money before I realise the herbs are of no help. You say your herbs

have definitely improved your skin. Do you think you will eventually be

cured, and if so, how long would you say it might take?

>

>thanks for clearing up the confusion. i would just like to second the

>opinion that we should listen to each others advice and then determine that

>which we would like to follow. it is different for all of us and every

>once

>in a while something wonderful comes out of the group discussion that takes

>us another step toward " controlling " our rosacea.

>

>

>not meaning to preach....I listened to a radio show on in Canada and there

>was a dermatologist that talked about the negative effects of cortisone

>cream and cortisteriods ( sp??) i know that this group has talked about

>the

>cortisone treatments available and dr. nase told us to avoid them because

>of the damage.

>

>this dermatologist on the radio talked about psoriasis, excema and other

>skin inflamations ( she kind of lumped them all together) what she said was

>that traditionally we use all kind s of scripts to help and some do and

>some

>don't. She talked about the skin as this huge organ that is so important

>to

>the body and she said that the liver plays a huge huge part in our daily

>lives that it helps to rid of the toxins we put in our system by eating

>those foods that are not good for us ( she mentioned that we often crave

>those foods that we are most allergic to , heard this before, eh guys!!)

>and

>that the kidneys and liver help cleanse the body. anyway... she said if

>these organs feel overworked the toxins go into the skin( forms of mucus

>and

>pus etc) and that manifests in the skin so by cleansing oursleves( inside

>out first) we can heal our skin. I know we have all heard variations of

>what she said but she did advocate chinese, herbal and naturalpath methods

>of treatment. I do not want to get into any arguements on the pus or

>mucus

>methods i am just relaying information i heard. She talked about a product

>called herbacort that is made of many herbs that work on the skin with no

>side effects this leads me to believe that this is the natural remedy for

>cortisone creams, anyway she is located in vancouver and is willing to talk

>to people about their problems. I can release the number if anyone is

>interested. also just as a side note this may will be one year on the

>chinese herbs and watching my diet and avoiding triggers and i can honestly

>say i look better than a year ago in my rosacea. my herbalist told me that

>it will take a year of more to notice the difference as herbs take much

>longer to work and since there is not an immediate " fix " like antibiotics

>give in 4 weeks of so people feel that herbs may not help but it is a slow

>process. also it has taken our body years to manifest the rosacea and this

>can not be corrected over a couple of months. again she believes in the

>toxins built up in the body manifesting in the skin theory,... i know not

>everyone believes this to be true in my case it has worked . have a great

>day everyone.... susan

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hi to answer your questions...sorry i do not have anything but a phone

number, maybe you could phone and ask if they have an email, i might call

this week and if i do i will ask the question and post it , okay? i am

currently on maintenance for chinese herbs...i take flax seed oil 2 in the

am and 2 in the pm for the essential fatty acids and the omega 3 6 9

combination apparently the amount of cis linoleic acid is important...i also

take digestive enzymes to help digest the food and have me on a regular

cycle for elimination.. apparently you should have a bowel movement each day

and this is all related to the leaky gut syndrome that bill has posted on

previously. i also take a stress b vitamin. i should tell you in the

beginning i started takeing acidophilus with bifidus, drank chlorophyll all

day, 16 glasses of icy cold water avoided all triggers identiffied by the

national rosacea society stopped everything cold turkey improved my diet 100

% avoided dairy, wheat and certain fruits allprocessed products and sugar in

any form ... I mean i stopped everything immediately and ate a bland diet

to help work on the internal side of things. not everyone has the will

power but i saw some pictures of the progression of the disease and got

real scared and said if there is a way to fix this i have to do something...

i was the biggest chocolate, candy cookie freak in the world to stop was the

best thing i did after a week or so it got easier, the water tasted better

and i enjoyed eating the good stuff. i previously had a drink of water once

in a week if i was lucky. also i should say my rosacea was in the beginning

stages of a small blood vessel visible on each cheek and was prescribed

metrogel which immediately made the rosacea cover my cheeks in a week or so.

i had perfect skin , a spot only once in a while i used to have olive skin

greek descent ) born in hastings england, moved to canada when i was 4.

no one in my family has this disease and i think i got it when i had my son

7 years ago, gained 50 lbs never got rid of it ate a garbage junk food diet

and one day developed a red spot on my jaw line that was similar to a hive,

like an idiot i put a topical cortisone cream that my husband had for an

itchy spot he got on his legs. it is what cause the rosacea for me i feel.

my gp would not send me to a dermatologist and told me avoid the sun ( i

then faded to a very pale face skin tone) still am very white? i now burn in

the sun where i never did before and last summer was my first summer with

rosacea and had to use lots of sunscreen and wear foundation as i never did

before. the herbal program was very extensive i was taking 12 pills 2x per

day for a month or two but now feel that things are going well. i still get

the itchy red spots like a pimple and they come and go, my derm will only

give me hydrocortisone cream for it if i use an acne cream it gets worse so

this is why i will try the herbacort. anyway sorry for the rambling message

but i did want you to know a bit about my background. i am aware of a

couple of people with rosacea that now control it with flax seed oil or

salmon oil or evening of primrose oil. take care susan

Re: Dermatologist on radio, HerbaCort, & Chinese herbs

>,

>

>Do you have an email address for the dermatologist? Or a snail mail

address?

>I live in England at it would be a bit pricey for me to phone her. I have

>read about that herbal cortisone product you mentioned. It is by HerbaLabs

>(www.herbalabs.com). It was someone on this eGroup that wrote about it a

few

>weeks ago. I am quite interested in this product because topical steroids

>were the most effective treatment for me, except that they became

>ineffective after some time, so I wonder if the herbal cortisone would also

>be ineffective for me.

>

>The Chinese herbs you're taking, do you know what's in them? I'm just about

>the reach the end of a course which I've been on for 3 months, and have

>pretty much decided not to continue with these particular ones, mainly

>because each month has cost me US $180, and the only effect I've experience

>is for my rosacea to get worse. I've emailed the doctor and he says that

>toxins are still being eliminated from my body and I need to continue

taking

>the herbs until there is a clear up.

>

>Instead, I've decided to take another approach. There is a local Chinese

>herbal practitioner in my area who says that if my rosacea was brought on

by

>stress, they can cure the stress and therefore the rosacea. The only

problem

>is that these approaches can take months, plenty of opportunity for them to

>make money before I realise the herbs are of no help. You say your herbs

>have definitely improved your skin. Do you think you will eventually be

>cured, and if so, how long would you say it might take?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>>thanks for clearing up the confusion. i would just like to second the

>>opinion that we should listen to each others advice and then determine

that

>>which we would like to follow. it is different for all of us and every

>>once

>>in a while something wonderful comes out of the group discussion that

takes

>>us another step toward " controlling " our rosacea.

>>

>>

>>not meaning to preach....I listened to a radio show on in Canada and there

>>was a dermatologist that talked about the negative effects of cortisone

>>cream and cortisteriods ( sp??) i know that this group has talked about

>>the

>>cortisone treatments available and dr. nase told us to avoid them because

>>of the damage.

>>

>>this dermatologist on the radio talked about psoriasis, excema and other

>>skin inflamations ( she kind of lumped them all together) what she said

was

>>that traditionally we use all kind s of scripts to help and some do and

>>some

>>don't. She talked about the skin as this huge organ that is so important

>>to

>>the body and she said that the liver plays a huge huge part in our daily

>>lives that it helps to rid of the toxins we put in our system by eating

>>those foods that are not good for us ( she mentioned that we often crave

>>those foods that we are most allergic to , heard this before, eh guys!!)

>>and

>>that the kidneys and liver help cleanse the body. anyway... she said if

>>these organs feel overworked the toxins go into the skin( forms of mucus

>>and

>>pus etc) and that manifests in the skin so by cleansing oursleves( inside

>>out first) we can heal our skin. I know we have all heard variations of

>>what she said but she did advocate chinese, herbal and naturalpath methods

>>of treatment. I do not want to get into any arguements on the pus or

>>mucus

>>methods i am just relaying information i heard. She talked about a

product

>>called herbacort that is made of many herbs that work on the skin with no

>>side effects this leads me to believe that this is the natural remedy for

>>cortisone creams, anyway she is located in vancouver and is willing to

talk

>>to people about their problems. I can release the number if anyone is

>>interested. also just as a side note this may will be one year on the

>>chinese herbs and watching my diet and avoiding triggers and i can

honestly

>>say i look better than a year ago in my rosacea. my herbalist told me

that

>>it will take a year of more to notice the difference as herbs take much

>>longer to work and since there is not an immediate " fix " like antibiotics

>>give in 4 weeks of so people feel that herbs may not help but it is a slow

>>process. also it has taken our body years to manifest the rosacea and

this

>>can not be corrected over a couple of months. again she believes in the

>>toxins built up in the body manifesting in the skin theory,... i know not

>>everyone believes this to be true in my case it has worked . have a great

>>day everyone.... susan

>

>

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wow! good information - i'm glad you shared!

Adam wrote:

> hi to answer your questions...sorry i do not have anything but a phone

> number, maybe you could phone and ask if they have an email, i might call

> this week and if i do i will ask the question and post it , okay? i am

> currently on maintenance for chinese herbs...i take flax seed oil 2 in the

> am and 2 in the pm for the essential fatty acids and the omega 3 6 9

> combination apparently the amount of cis linoleic acid is important...i also

> take digestive enzymes to help digest the food and have me on a regular

> cycle for elimination.. apparently you should have a bowel movement each day

> and this is all related to the leaky gut syndrome that bill has posted on

> previously. i also take a stress b vitamin. i should tell you in the

> beginning i started takeing acidophilus with bifidus, drank chlorophyll all

> day, 16 glasses of icy cold water avoided all triggers identiffied by the

> national rosacea society stopped everything cold turkey improved my diet 100

> % avoided dairy, wheat and certain fruits allprocessed products and sugar in

> any form ... I mean i stopped everything immediately and ate a bland diet

> to help work on the internal side of things. not everyone has the will

> power but i saw some pictures of the progression of the disease and got

> real scared and said if there is a way to fix this i have to do something...

> i was the biggest chocolate, candy cookie freak in the world to stop was the

> best thing i did after a week or so it got easier, the water tasted better

> and i enjoyed eating the good stuff. i previously had a drink of water once

> in a week if i was lucky. also i should say my rosacea was in the beginning

> stages of a small blood vessel visible on each cheek and was prescribed

> metrogel which immediately made the rosacea cover my cheeks in a week or so.

> i had perfect skin , a spot only once in a while i used to have olive skin

> greek descent ) born in hastings england, moved to canada when i was 4.

> no one in my family has this disease and i think i got it when i had my son

> 7 years ago, gained 50 lbs never got rid of it ate a garbage junk food diet

> and one day developed a red spot on my jaw line that was similar to a hive,

> like an idiot i put a topical cortisone cream that my husband had for an

> itchy spot he got on his legs. it is what cause the rosacea for me i feel.

> my gp would not send me to a dermatologist and told me avoid the sun ( i

> then faded to a very pale face skin tone) still am very white? i now burn in

> the sun where i never did before and last summer was my first summer with

> rosacea and had to use lots of sunscreen and wear foundation as i never did

> before. the herbal program was very extensive i was taking 12 pills 2x per

> day for a month or two but now feel that things are going well. i still get

> the itchy red spots like a pimple and they come and go, my derm will only

> give me hydrocortisone cream for it if i use an acne cream it gets worse so

> this is why i will try the herbacort. anyway sorry for the rambling message

> but i did want you to know a bit about my background. i am aware of a

> couple of people with rosacea that now control it with flax seed oil or

> salmon oil or evening of primrose oil. take care susan

> Re: Dermatologist on radio, HerbaCort, & Chinese herbs

>

> >,

> >

> >Do you have an email address for the dermatologist? Or a snail mail

> address?

> >I live in England at it would be a bit pricey for me to phone her. I have

> >read about that herbal cortisone product you mentioned. It is by HerbaLabs

> >(www.herbalabs.com). It was someone on this eGroup that wrote about it a

> few

> >weeks ago. I am quite interested in this product because topical steroids

> >were the most effective treatment for me, except that they became

> >ineffective after some time, so I wonder if the herbal cortisone would also

> >be ineffective for me.

> >

> >The Chinese herbs you're taking, do you know what's in them? I'm just about

> >the reach the end of a course which I've been on for 3 months, and have

> >pretty much decided not to continue with these particular ones, mainly

> >because each month has cost me US $180, and the only effect I've experience

> >is for my rosacea to get worse. I've emailed the doctor and he says that

> >toxins are still being eliminated from my body and I need to continue

> taking

> >the herbs until there is a clear up.

> >

> >Instead, I've decided to take another approach. There is a local Chinese

> >herbal practitioner in my area who says that if my rosacea was brought on

> by

> >stress, they can cure the stress and therefore the rosacea. The only

> problem

> >is that these approaches can take months, plenty of opportunity for them to

> >make money before I realise the herbs are of no help. You say your herbs

> >have definitely improved your skin. Do you think you will eventually be

> >cured, and if so, how long would you say it might take?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >>

> >>thanks for clearing up the confusion. i would just like to second the

> >>opinion that we should listen to each others advice and then determine

> that

> >>which we would like to follow. it is different for all of us and every

> >>once

> >>in a while something wonderful comes out of the group discussion that

> takes

> >>us another step toward " controlling " our rosacea.

> >>

> >>

> >>not meaning to preach....I listened to a radio show on in Canada and there

> >>was a dermatologist that talked about the negative effects of cortisone

> >>cream and cortisteriods ( sp??) i know that this group has talked about

> >>the

> >>cortisone treatments available and dr. nase told us to avoid them because

> >>of the damage.

> >>

> >>this dermatologist on the radio talked about psoriasis, excema and other

> >>skin inflamations ( she kind of lumped them all together) what she said

> was

> >>that traditionally we use all kind s of scripts to help and some do and

> >>some

> >>don't. She talked about the skin as this huge organ that is so important

> >>to

> >>the body and she said that the liver plays a huge huge part in our daily

> >>lives that it helps to rid of the toxins we put in our system by eating

> >>those foods that are not good for us ( she mentioned that we often crave

> >>those foods that we are most allergic to , heard this before, eh guys!!)

> >>and

> >>that the kidneys and liver help cleanse the body. anyway... she said if

> >>these organs feel overworked the toxins go into the skin( forms of mucus

> >>and

> >>pus etc) and that manifests in the skin so by cleansing oursleves( inside

> >>out first) we can heal our skin. I know we have all heard variations of

> >>what she said but she did advocate chinese, herbal and naturalpath methods

> >>of treatment. I do not want to get into any arguements on the pus or

> >>mucus

> >>methods i am just relaying information i heard. She talked about a

> product

> >>called herbacort that is made of many herbs that work on the skin with no

> >>side effects this leads me to believe that this is the natural remedy for

> >>cortisone creams, anyway she is located in vancouver and is willing to

> talk

> >>to people about their problems. I can release the number if anyone is

> >>interested. also just as a side note this may will be one year on the

> >>chinese herbs and watching my diet and avoiding triggers and i can

> honestly

> >>say i look better than a year ago in my rosacea. my herbalist told me

> that

> >>it will take a year of more to notice the difference as herbs take much

> >>longer to work and since there is not an immediate " fix " like antibiotics

> >>give in 4 weeks of so people feel that herbs may not help but it is a slow

> >>process. also it has taken our body years to manifest the rosacea and

> this

> >>can not be corrected over a couple of months. again she believes in the

> >>toxins built up in the body manifesting in the skin theory,... i know not

> >>everyone believes this to be true in my case it has worked . have a great

> >>day everyone.... susan

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yes, thanks , for this and your second email. I think I will have to

get used to the idea that whatever I do to try to cure it, I will have to

expect it to be very long term therapy. By the way, has anyone tried

applying cider vinegar to their face? I read on Abbey's Herbs Website that

it is good at clearing rosacea, presumably because of its antibacterial

action. It recommends mixing it with water in equal parts, and maybe adding

onion juice and garlic juice, and also witch hazel (dried herbal form). I

tried just the vinegar once and after a bad initial reaction that made me

vey red (I think from the heat it produced), after about a week my skin

cleared up pretty much entirely. You'd have to put up with the strong smell

and the possibility of burning eyes though.

>

>wow! good information - i'm glad you shared!

>

>

>

> Adam wrote:

>

> > hi to answer your questions...sorry i do not have anything but a phone

> > number, maybe you could phone and ask if they have an email, i might

>call

> > this week and if i do i will ask the question and post it , okay? i am

> > currently on maintenance for chinese herbs...i take flax seed oil 2 in

>the

> > am and 2 in the pm for the essential fatty acids and the omega 3 6 9

> > combination apparently the amount of cis linoleic acid is important...i

>also

> > take digestive enzymes to help digest the food and have me on a regular

> > cycle for elimination.. apparently you should have a bowel movement each

>day

> > and this is all related to the leaky gut syndrome that bill has posted

>on

> > previously. i also take a stress b vitamin. i should tell you in the

> > beginning i started takeing acidophilus with bifidus, drank chlorophyll

>all

> > day, 16 glasses of icy cold water avoided all triggers identiffied by

>the

> > national rosacea society stopped everything cold turkey improved my diet

>100

> > % avoided dairy, wheat and certain fruits allprocessed products and

>sugar in

> > any form ... I mean i stopped everything immediately and ate a bland

>diet

> > to help work on the internal side of things. not everyone has the will

> > power but i saw some pictures of the progression of the disease and got

> > real scared and said if there is a way to fix this i have to do

>something...

> > i was the biggest chocolate, candy cookie freak in the world to stop was

>the

> > best thing i did after a week or so it got easier, the water tasted

>better

> > and i enjoyed eating the good stuff. i previously had a drink of water

>once

> > in a week if i was lucky. also i should say my rosacea was in the

>beginning

> > stages of a small blood vessel visible on each cheek and was prescribed

> > metrogel which immediately made the rosacea cover my cheeks in a week or

>so.

> > i had perfect skin , a spot only once in a while i used to have olive

>skin

> > greek descent ) born in hastings england, moved to canada when i was

>4.

> > no one in my family has this disease and i think i got it when i had my

>son

> > 7 years ago, gained 50 lbs never got rid of it ate a garbage junk food

>diet

> > and one day developed a red spot on my jaw line that was similar to a

>hive,

> > like an idiot i put a topical cortisone cream that my husband had for an

> > itchy spot he got on his legs. it is what cause the rosacea for me i

>feel.

> > my gp would not send me to a dermatologist and told me avoid the sun ( i

> > then faded to a very pale face skin tone) still am very white? i now

>burn in

> > the sun where i never did before and last summer was my first summer

>with

> > rosacea and had to use lots of sunscreen and wear foundation as i never

>did

> > before. the herbal program was very extensive i was taking 12 pills 2x

>per

> > day for a month or two but now feel that things are going well. i still

>get

> > the itchy red spots like a pimple and they come and go, my derm will

>only

> > give me hydrocortisone cream for it if i use an acne cream it gets worse

>so

> > this is why i will try the herbacort. anyway sorry for the rambling

>message

> > but i did want you to know a bit about my background. i am aware of a

> > couple of people with rosacea that now control it with flax seed oil or

> > salmon oil or evening of primrose oil. take care susan

> > Re: Dermatologist on radio, HerbaCort, & Chinese

>herbs

> >

> > >,

> > >

> > >Do you have an email address for the dermatologist? Or a snail mail

> > address?

> > >I live in England at it would be a bit pricey for me to phone her. I

>have

> > >read about that herbal cortisone product you mentioned. It is by

>HerbaLabs

> > >(www.herbalabs.com). It was someone on this eGroup that wrote about it

>a

> > few

> > >weeks ago. I am quite interested in this product because topical

>steroids

> > >were the most effective treatment for me, except that they became

> > >ineffective after some time, so I wonder if the herbal cortisone would

>also

> > >be ineffective for me.

> > >

> > >The Chinese herbs you're taking, do you know what's in them? I'm just

>about

> > >the reach the end of a course which I've been on for 3 months, and have

> > >pretty much decided not to continue with these particular ones, mainly

> > >because each month has cost me US $180, and the only effect I've

>experience

> > >is for my rosacea to get worse. I've emailed the doctor and he says

>that

> > >toxins are still being eliminated from my body and I need to continue

> > taking

> > >the herbs until there is a clear up.

> > >

> > >Instead, I've decided to take another approach. There is a local

>Chinese

> > >herbal practitioner in my area who says that if my rosacea was brought

>on

> > by

> > >stress, they can cure the stress and therefore the rosacea. The only

> > problem

> > >is that these approaches can take months, plenty of opportunity for

>them to

> > >make money before I realise the herbs are of no help. You say your

>herbs

> > >have definitely improved your skin. Do you think you will eventually be

> > >cured, and if so, how long would you say it might take?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >>

> > >>thanks for clearing up the confusion. i would just like to second the

> > >>opinion that we should listen to each others advice and then determine

> > that

> > >>which we would like to follow. it is different for all of us and

>every

> > >>once

> > >>in a while something wonderful comes out of the group discussion that

> > takes

> > >>us another step toward " controlling " our rosacea.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>not meaning to preach....I listened to a radio show on in Canada and

>there

> > >>was a dermatologist that talked about the negative effects of

>cortisone

> > >>cream and cortisteriods ( sp??) i know that this group has talked

>about

> > >>the

> > >>cortisone treatments available and dr. nase told us to avoid them

>because

> > >>of the damage.

> > >>

> > >>this dermatologist on the radio talked about psoriasis, excema and

>other

> > >>skin inflamations ( she kind of lumped them all together) what she

>said

> > was

> > >>that traditionally we use all kind s of scripts to help and some do

>and

> > >>some

> > >>don't. She talked about the skin as this huge organ that is so

>important

> > >>to

> > >>the body and she said that the liver plays a huge huge part in our

>daily

> > >>lives that it helps to rid of the toxins we put in our system by

>eating

> > >>those foods that are not good for us ( she mentioned that we often

>crave

> > >>those foods that we are most allergic to , heard this before, eh

>guys!!)

> > >>and

> > >>that the kidneys and liver help cleanse the body. anyway... she said

>if

> > >>these organs feel overworked the toxins go into the skin( forms of

>mucus

> > >>and

> > >>pus etc) and that manifests in the skin so by cleansing oursleves(

>inside

> > >>out first) we can heal our skin. I know we have all heard variations

>of

> > >>what she said but she did advocate chinese, herbal and naturalpath

>methods

> > >>of treatment. I do not want to get into any arguements on the pus or

> > >>mucus

> > >>methods i am just relaying information i heard. She talked about a

> > product

> > >>called herbacort that is made of many herbs that work on the skin with

>no

> > >>side effects this leads me to believe that this is the natural remedy

>for

> > >>cortisone creams, anyway she is located in vancouver and is willing to

> > talk

> > >>to people about their problems. I can release the number if anyone is

> > >>interested. also just as a side note this may will be one year on the

> > >>chinese herbs and watching my diet and avoiding triggers and i can

> > honestly

> > >>say i look better than a year ago in my rosacea. my herbalist told me

> > that

> > >>it will take a year of more to notice the difference as herbs take

>much

> > >>longer to work and since there is not an immediate " fix " like

>antibiotics

> > >>give in 4 weeks of so people feel that herbs may not help but it is a

>slow

> > >>process. also it has taken our body years to manifest the rosacea and

> > this

> > >>can not be corrected over a couple of months. again she believes in

>the

> > >>toxins built up in the body manifesting in the skin theory,... i know

>not

> > >>everyone believes this to be true in my case it has worked . have a

>great

> > >>day everyone.... susan

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In a message dated 05/20/1999 9:12:05 AM !!!First Boot!!!,

mfreestone@... writes:

> By the way, has anyone tried

> applying cider vinegar to their face? I read on Abbey's Herbs Website that

> it is good at clearing rosacea, presumably because of its antibacterial

> action. It recommends mixing it with water in equal parts, and maybe

adding

> onion juice and garlic juice, and also witch hazel (dried herbal form).

Wow, just about all of these are major triggers for me -- I don't know if I'd

dare put that combination on my face.

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In a message dated 5/20/99 4:54:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mfreestone@... writes:

<< By the way, has anyone tried

applying cider vinegar to their face? >>

I did. The first time it was wonderful. I waited about a week and then

tried it again. (I'm cautious to a fault over here.) The second time, I got

into a major flare from it. I know everyone is different and, I think, Carol

uses it. But this is one that is worth moving slow with if you are going to

try it.

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In a message dated 5/20/99 4:08:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Enzanni@...

writes:

<<

> By the way, has anyone tried

> applying cider vinegar to their face? I read on Abbey's Herbs Website

that

> it is good at clearing rosacea, presumably because of its antibacterial

> action. It recommends mixing it with water in equal parts, and maybe

adding

> onion juice and garlic juice, and also witch hazel (dried herbal form).

Cider vinegar is all I have used for several months now, works great for me

but not equal parts, more like a small dash to a gallon of water.

To keep my face from chapping due to the vinegar, I use aloe vera applied

when my face is wet. It does not help much with the redness, but it has

reduced the bumps on my nose by half at least and the duration of the bumps

from 2 or 3 days to 1 day. Best stuff I have ever found and believe me I have

tried a lot things

Never tried garlic or onion juice though.

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i read the abbys information, did you just dilute the cidar vinegar and dab

on your face?? After your initial bad reaction you said your face pretty

much cleared up, what do you have?? pimples. pastules, broken cappilliaries

( sp?). Is it still clear? thanks susan

Re: Dermatologist on radio, HerbaCort, & Chinese

>>herbs

>> >

>> > >,

>> > >

>> > >Do you have an email address for the dermatologist? Or a snail mail

>> > address?

>> > >I live in England at it would be a bit pricey for me to phone her. I

>>have

>> > >read about that herbal cortisone product you mentioned. It is by

>>HerbaLabs

>> > >(www.herbalabs.com). It was someone on this eGroup that wrote about it

>>a

>> > few

>> > >weeks ago. I am quite interested in this product because topical

>>steroids

>> > >were the most effective treatment for me, except that they became

>> > >ineffective after some time, so I wonder if the herbal cortisone would

>>also

>> > >be ineffective for me.

>> > >

>> > >The Chinese herbs you're taking, do you know what's in them? I'm just

>>about

>> > >the reach the end of a course which I've been on for 3 months, and

have

>> > >pretty much decided not to continue with these particular ones, mainly

>> > >because each month has cost me US $180, and the only effect I've

>>experience

>> > >is for my rosacea to get worse. I've emailed the doctor and he says

>>that

>> > >toxins are still being eliminated from my body and I need to continue

>> > taking

>> > >the herbs until there is a clear up.

>> > >

>> > >Instead, I've decided to take another approach. There is a local

>>Chinese

>> > >herbal practitioner in my area who says that if my rosacea was brought

>>on

>> > by

>> > >stress, they can cure the stress and therefore the rosacea. The only

>> > problem

>> > >is that these approaches can take months, plenty of opportunity for

>>them to

>> > >make money before I realise the herbs are of no help. You say your

>>herbs

>> > >have definitely improved your skin. Do you think you will eventually

be

>> > >cured, and if so, how long would you say it might take?

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >>

>> > >>thanks for clearing up the confusion. i would just like to second

the

>> > >>opinion that we should listen to each others advice and then

determine

>> > that

>> > >>which we would like to follow. it is different for all of us and

>>every

>> > >>once

>> > >>in a while something wonderful comes out of the group discussion that

>> > takes

>> > >>us another step toward " controlling " our rosacea.

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>not meaning to preach....I listened to a radio show on in Canada and

>>there

>> > >>was a dermatologist that talked about the negative effects of

>>cortisone

>> > >>cream and cortisteriods ( sp??) i know that this group has talked

>>about

>> > >>the

>> > >>cortisone treatments available and dr. nase told us to avoid them

>>because

>> > >>of the damage.

>> > >>

>> > >>this dermatologist on the radio talked about psoriasis, excema and

>>other

>> > >>skin inflamations ( she kind of lumped them all together) what she

>>said

>> > was

>> > >>that traditionally we use all kind s of scripts to help and some do

>>and

>> > >>some

>> > >>don't. She talked about the skin as this huge organ that is so

>>important

>> > >>to

>> > >>the body and she said that the liver plays a huge huge part in our

>>daily

>> > >>lives that it helps to rid of the toxins we put in our system by

>>eating

>> > >>those foods that are not good for us ( she mentioned that we often

>>crave

>> > >>those foods that we are most allergic to , heard this before, eh

>>guys!!)

>> > >>and

>> > >>that the kidneys and liver help cleanse the body. anyway... she said

>>if

>> > >>these organs feel overworked the toxins go into the skin( forms of

>>mucus

>> > >>and

>> > >>pus etc) and that manifests in the skin so by cleansing

sleves(

>>inside

>> > >>out first) we can heal our skin. I know we have all heard variations

>>of

>> > >>what she said but she did advocate chinese, herbal and naturalpath

>>methods

>> > >>of treatment. I do not want to get into any arguements on the pus or

>> > >>mucus

>> > >>methods i am just relaying information i heard. She talked about a

>> > product

>> > >>called herbacort that is made of many herbs that work on the skin with

>>no

>> > >>side effects this leads me to believe that this is the natural remedy

>>for

>> > >>cortisone creams, anyway she is located in vancouver and is willing to

>> > talk

>> > >>to people about their problems. I can release the number if anyone is

>> > >>interested. also just as a side note this may will be one year on the

>> > >>chinese herbs and watching my diet and avoiding triggers and i can

>> > honestly

>> > >>say i look better than a year ago in my rosacea. my herbalist told me

>> > that

>> > >>it will take a year of more to notice the difference as herbs take

>>much

>> > >>longer to work and since there is n

ot an immediate " fix " like

>>antibiotics

>> > >>give in 4 weeks of so people feel that herbs may not help but it is a

>>slow

>> > >>process. also it has taken our body years to manifest the rosacea

and

>> > this

>> > >>can not be corrected over a couple of months. again she believes in

>>the

>> > >>toxins built up in the body manifesting in the skin theory,... i know

>>not

>> > >>everyone believes this to be true in my case it has worked . have a

>>great

>> > >>day everyone.... susan

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >______________________________________________________

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