Guest guest Posted June 11, 2000 Report Share Posted June 11, 2000 Amen to that! Withdrawal from the prednisone, made me paranoid weeepy and achy--as if I needed more pain! Re: Some Doctors Should be Shot At 10:59 PM 6/10/00 -0400, you wrote: Dee, Thank you for caring and I say that sucks often. My only concern is about predinisone, being a steroid it pumps you up, masks the symptoms but doesn't really fix anything. It can also create a dependency--i speak form exprience started with a doc 5mgs. and one shot every three months, than every two months, than every 6 wks. then 10mgs per day, you get the picture was over a 5 year period and one day I woke up knowing I no longer used it because I felt better- NEEDED it to feel barely functional. Supposedly, it is contrainidicated for FMS. But I also heard that it does cartliage damage, interestingly I have knees that are skirting surgery....Thank you for responding predinsore brigns out my soap box. Soft Hugs, Anne-marieI understand that!! I have had to use prednisone in the past for poison ivy....my dear mother...the wretched so and so (kidding...) gave me a horrid tendency to get really bad poison ivy and the Dr just KNOWS I'll manage to find it somewhere (usually the cats rub it on me)....and I end up on prednisone....one time I got a second dose just as I was clearing up and had to start again with no break and I was having sleep disorders, attitude problems and getting paranoid.....it's nasty stuff!! Dee VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2000 Report Share Posted June 12, 2000 Debbie G, I am so sorry your doc was like that with you. I hope your other one will help you out more. How awful! Debbie Gunn wrote: I went to an appointment at PacDead today and saw my usual un-Doctor to talk to her about menopause.....I don't know about any of you, but I'm sick of these sweats. Anyhow, while I was there I asked her how much knowledge she had of Fibromyalgia. She said that at first, she knew very little and that Doctors are still learning about it, but that she had a friend who is a doctor and she has Fibro, and her friend is always telling her how much pain she is in all the time....that some days it hurts just to lift her head off the pillow and the pain can get intense. Then I told her that I was going to see a Fibro specialist on July 12th, but is there any way you can give me anything for the pain and she said No. I turned to her and said I don't understand...you know this disease causes intense pain, and yet you won't prescribe anything? What is is then? Are you afraid of losing your license or what? And are you ready for this? She said Yes! It's a sad day when a patient goes to a doctor for help and the doctor turns them away without anything because they are afraid to lose their license. This state (Washington) makes me ill with it's stupid pain laws!!!!!! Sorry....I just needed to vent.....I left there in shock and still can't quite believe it.Debbie G. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIP If there is a problem on this list notify. Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@... Add or view links about fibro/CFS. http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe. Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2000 Report Share Posted June 12, 2000 At 02:52 PM 6/11/00 -0700, you wrote: Dee, Thanks for the support...I need all I can get at this point. Debbie G. Oh, believe me, someday I'll need YOUR support...we take turns around here....Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: Dee Garrett MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIP If there is a problem on this list notify. Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@... Add or view links about fibro/CFS. http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe. Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2000 Report Share Posted June 12, 2000 At 05:55 PM 6/11/00 -0400, you wrote: Amen to that! Withdrawal from the prednisone, made me paranoid weeepy and achy--as if I needed more pain! They control Ritalin tighter than prednisone and it's a whole lot more deadly, if you ask me....and I realize nobody did!!! Dee If there is a problem on this list notify. Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@... Add or view links about fibro/CFS. http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe. Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIP If there is a problem on this list notify. Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@... Add or view links about fibro/CFS. http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe. Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIP If there is a problem on this list notify. Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@... Add or view links about fibro/CFS. http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe. Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIP If there is a problem on this list notify. Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@... Add or view links about fibro/CFS. http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe. Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIP If there is a problem on this list notify. Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@... Add or view links about fibro/CFS. http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe. Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIP If there is a problem on this list notify. Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@... Add or view links about fibro/CFS. http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe. Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIP If there is a problem on this list notify. Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@... Add or view links about fibro/CFS. http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe. Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2000 Report Share Posted June 12, 2000 Hi, I have had the same experence has you. Just the other day my doctor about syas the same thing. He said he doesn't understand fibro and doesn't see why I am in all this pain. His nurse said I was acting like a 3 year old. I would like for them to live in my body for just one day and they would understand it. I guess somepeople just don't understand it unless they can see it, but since fibro is invisable they can't under stand why we are in pain. I have benn crying all weekend except for parts of Sunday because Sunday was my 17th anniversary. Yep to the same man. lol Really having a rough time with all this. Hugs PJ : ) Subject: Re: Some Doctors Should be Shot > I went to an appointment at PacDead today and saw my usual un- Doctor to talk to her about menopause.....I don't know about any of you, but I'm sick of these sweats. Anyhow, while I was there I asked her how much knowledge she had of Fibromyalgia. She said that at first, she knew very little and that Doctors are still learning about it, but that she had a friend who is a doctor and she has Fibro, and her friend is always telling her how much pain she is in all the time....that some days it hurts just to lift her head off the pillow and the pain can get intense. > Then I told her that I was going to see a Fibro specialist on July 12th, but is there any way you can give me anything for the pain and she said No. I turned to her and said I don't understand...you know this disease causes intense pain, and yet you won't prescribe anything? What is is then? Are you afraid of losing your license or what? And are you ready for this? She said Yes! > It's a sad day when a patient goes to a doctor for help and the doctor turns them away without anything because they are afraid to lose their license. This state (Washington) makes me ill with it's stupid pain laws!!!!!! > Sorry....I just needed to vent.....I left there in shock and still can't quite believe it. > Debbie G. Debbie-that's so awful! Sometimes I really hate Drs. insurance companies,gov't,etc.Have you tried Ultram? It's a synthetic pain reliever,not a narcotic. I have some success with this,but I also take 400mg.of Celebrex for my hands/wrists swelling and I have Hydrocodone for flares. Thankfully,my Dr. believes that pain should be controlled.Good luck-Debbie C. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2000 Report Share Posted June 12, 2000 I can understand your anger--heck I share it . if this doctor has never done a study on FMS how can she dare to make these remarks! I hope she never gets it!!! I guess this is why I write congress man and so forth. Take care. anne-Marie Some Doctors Should be Shot > >Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 20:19:38 -0700 > > > > I went to an appointment at PacDead today and saw my usual un-Doctor > >to talk to her about menopause.....I don't know about any of you, but I'm > >sick of these sweats. Anyhow, while I was there I asked her how much > >knowledge she had of Fibromyalgia. She said that at first, she knew very > >little and that Doctors are still learning about it, but that she had a > >friend who is a doctor and she has Fibro, and her friend is always telling > >her how much pain she is in all the time....that some days it hurts just to > >lift her head off the pillow and the pain can get intense. > > Then I told her that I was going to see a Fibro specialist on July > >12th, but is there any way you can give me anything for the pain and she > >said No. I turned to her and said I don't understand...you know this > >disease causes intense pain, and yet you won't prescribe anything? What is > >is then? Are you afraid of losing your license or what? And are you ready > >for this? She said Yes! > > It's a sad day when a patient goes to a doctor for help and the > >doctor turns them away without anything because they are afraid to lose > >their license. This state (Washington) makes me ill with it's stupid pain > >laws!!!!!! > > Sorry....I just needed to vent.....I left there in shock and still > >can't quite believe it. > >Debbie G. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Would you like to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving > more each month? Join beMANY! Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance > rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! > http://click./1/2567/5/_/442796/_/960819693/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~ > MON & THURS > Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM > Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM > WHERE: /chat/ > > > VIP > If there is a problem on this list notify. > Co-Moderator > The_List_Owner@... > > > Add or view links about fibro/CFS. > http://www.onelist.com/links/ > > TO unsubscribe. > Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2000 Report Share Posted June 12, 2000 I worry about the number of children who are put on ritalin. It scares me. ly given the supreme court decision on HMOs, (I sent it another message) we are all in for a rocky time. passing out meds instead of solving the problem seems to be the way medicine is practiced. Re: Some Doctors Should be Shot At 05:55 PM 6/11/00 -0400, you wrote: Amen to that! Withdrawal from the prednisone, made me paranoid weeepy and achy--as if I needed more pain!They control Ritalin tighter than prednisone and it's a whole lot more deadly, if you ask me....and I realize nobody did!!! Dee If there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2000 Report Share Posted June 12, 2000 But we do appreciate your input.....at least I do! Debbie G. Re: Some Doctors Should be Shot At 05:55 PM 6/11/00 -0400, you wrote: Amen to that! Withdrawal from the prednisone, made me paranoid weeepy and achy--as if I needed more pain!They control Ritalin tighter than prednisone and it's a whole lot more deadly, if you ask me....and I realize nobody did!!! Dee If there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. ~*~CHAT TIME:~*~MON & THURS Day Eastern 4 PM, Central 3 PM, Mt 2 PM Pacific 1 PM Night Eastern 9 Pm, Central 8 Pm, Mt 7 PM Pacific 6 PM WHERE: /chat/ VIPIf there is a problem on this list notify.Co-Moderator The_List_Owner@...Add or view links about fibro/CFS.http://www.onelist.com/links/ TO unsubscribe.Go to: http://www.onelist.com/ to this list and unsub from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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