(No subject)

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the address Inga. I got a lot of good information. I also looked

up Propulsid, and Reglan. After what Ive read it seems the problems are

better than the solutions.

[Guest guest]

Rene Here

Have a good trip!!!!!! Save hello to Mickey for me.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/18/99 1:44:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

AngieCATW1@... writes:

<< ve learned in 11 years of being dx's that I can't worry about tomorrow. I

can't dwell on it. I have made my final decisions and now I try to live. I

don't want to miss one day of life worrying about death that is inevitable

anyway no matter what the cause disease or old age.

I hope this answered you if not let me know and I will try harder.

Sorry if it sounds like I am preaching but Today is way too important,to

waste it cause who knows if there is a tomorrow

Angie

Angie

That is so well put and so right on. Who knows when the next flare or what

it will be like. I take good care of myself and I'm learning to be a

scrapper. Not to fear the unknown and rest in today. Stop and smell the

flowers, enjoy your loved ones, and be the person you believe you are. Life

is not a promise of condition, only what we make of it, the way it is delt.

I have been scared, TRUST ME, but it didn't help and won't help in the

future, only to take care of myself as best as possible and do my part and

pray for God to do the rest.

We love you Rene and believe me, no one is preaching. We have been there and

done that, and we all know how you feel.

Angie, sorry about the V. I can't spell it, and don;t want anybody to laugh

at the way I would spell it in an attempt. One more to the list of things to

deal with.

Eunice

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/18/99 7:02:43 PM Central Daylight Time, WCTET42@...

writes:

<< Angie, sorry about the V. I can't spell it, and don;t want anybody to

laugh

at the way I would spell it in an attempt. One more to the list of things

to

deal with.

Eunice >>

HI Eunice..... I promise not to laugh if you don't laugh first, but what is

the V thing? Really? LOL

Lu

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/19/99 7:04:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, RTI2264@...

writes:

<<

I'm having a pretty good day today. Gee what a difference a day makes.

(musical notes)

Rene

>>

Yippy Ky Yeaaa!!! I'm so happy for you. There actually can be a lot of good

days.

We should name ourselves the Praying RP's.

Eunice

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/19/99 7:35:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Rlr1999@...

writes:

<< to go check and make sure I spelled Wagnall right!) >>

As long as you spell funk right. We are doing ok. : ) >>

Scared me for a second. LOL

No Name

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/19/1999 8:39:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

WCTET42@... writes:

<< As long as you spell funk right. We are doing ok. : ) >>

Scared me for a second. LOL

No Name >>

Eunice, LOL

I was very careful to make sure I spelled it right that time. : )

[Guest guest]

Lu,

This so called moderator has " spell check " on her computer and a Funk and

Wagnall (I had to go check and make sure I spelled Wagnall right!) beside

her computer desk. ME spell????????? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

.. I think

only those so called moderators of our sites can spell those BIG Words . LOL

Just joking you guys !

Lu

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/20/99 6:31:24 PM Central Daylight Time,

susuw@... writes:

<< Well Lu,

I don't know either, but if you find out, let me know. LOL

As for the stupid thing you did, I can beat it!! Today, Friday, I got

dressed (I thought) and went into the bathroom to do the makeup and hair and

something just didn't " feel " right. Did the makeup and hair and sprayed

deodorant in my hair instead of hair spray. Not a problem!!! My hair won't

stink today right? Well, walk to kitchen, something didn't " feel " right and

drank more Dr Pepper (my coffee in the morning), took my meds, gave the dogs

their meds and went to bathroom (literally). Found out then that I forgot to

put on my underwear!!! OK, go redress (include underwear this time) and

kiss dogs, cats, daughter (not in that order) and get into van to go and

noticed everything was very blurry. Scared me, then stopped panicking and

went through routine again. OK, forgot underwear, sprayed deodorant in hair

and also forgot contact lenses!!!! Pulled back into driveway, went back to

bathroom, put in my eyes and made it to work, 15 minutes late, but without

any problems!!!! Friday was straight down hill from there!!!! LOL So my

dear friend, you're not alone!!!!!!

>>

ROFLMAO ,

Do you think you and I need professional help ? LOL

How you made it only 15 minutes late is beyond me !!!! LOL

I have got to go tell hubby about your day!!!!! LOL

Lu

[Guest guest]

It was a blast!! Wish you were there!!!! TGIF!!!!!! (Thank Goodness It's

Friday!)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

From: AngieCATW1@...

oh did you have fun today (friday)????

[Guest guest]

<< He is the love of my life. He is so sweet, cute, and smart. I have a

question. I am not being boastful but I have an honest question. Are some

RSS children extremely intelligent? Charlie is so smart. >>

Good Morning Liz,

You made me smile and I just wanted to say thanks and welcome. I too

just began connecting with people on this list and it is so wonderful! There

is a lot of good information shared -- both medical experiences and support

for us " loving " parents that are so proud of our " sweet, cute and smart "

children.

Looking forward to sharing with you.

Quisenberry

(Mom to -RSS, 17 MOs/ 13 1/2 lb., 27 in., Zantac, Cisapride,

Periactin)

[Guest guest]

Stacie, I feel just terrible!!! I did not mean to imply that you sounded

rude. I apologize if I sounded rude as well. I think that your comments

made me rethink what I had written and I tried to clarify it. I agree with

you wholeheartedly.

I agree that we tend to pick our children apart. It is hard not to when we

are looking for answers to questions that may never be answered. It is a

great blow to have a child with special needs. We, the parents, tend to

look in every little nook and cranny trying to find out what we NEED to

know. Not a day goes by that I don't wonder, question, or ponder something

about RSS. I have the " fortunate " experience of going through this for

almost 11 1/2 years and it does not get any easier in the long run. I just

learn to handle it differently.

So, let's just say that we are on the same page and not to worry about any

hurt feelings. There are none at this end and I am sure there are none at

yours

Jodi

(no subject)

>From: tclfam@...

>

>Jodi:

>

>It's really hard to discuss or give an opinion via the internet without

>hearing peoples tone of voice, seeing facial expressions, or hearing the

>meaning behind the words. So I hope I didn't come across as rude. My

>main concern is that people (and I have done it myself many times)

>remember that our kids will be different with or without RSS. I know

>you weren't saying that RSS caused your son's ADHD. Just hearing a lot

>lately (not only on the interent) about picking these poor kids apart

>piece by piece. One example is receiving letters from Mr. Chandler

>Stimmel seeing possibilities of thyroid problems in RSS families. I

>know he's not a doctor, but again, I see that as blaming thyroid

>problems in families of people with RSS. Funny thing is we have no

>thyroid problems!

>

>None of my comments were meant to be directed to just you. Your

>comments were valid and appreciated. Plus, I know you were helping

>someone out that is going through similar situations as you. I'm just

>thinking of those other parents out there that take every little symptom

>or characteristic their child has and applies it to RSS. In fact, I

>went to my son's physical therapist several months ago and made the

>comment that 's legs were so skinny, and I mentioned it must be the

>RSS. My physical therapist said, " You have to be careful about saying

>everything has to do with RSS when it comes to " . I didn't know

>what she was talking about until she pointed out how skinny my husbands

>legs are! ha. ha. I'm very sure that 's skinny legs have a little

>to do with his RSS, but mainly there is a characteristic of skinny legs

>in my husbands whole family!!! The all have " very " skinny stick legs.

>So who's to say that is RSS or family trait. Not to mention my mom's

>side of the family have crooked fifth fingers! Now, I definately know

>that is a RSS trait, but how funny that a LOT of my mom's side of the

>family has crooked fifth fingers, but they are all average to tall in

>height. I hope I'm making sense.

>

>Jodi, you have been a great help on this list and I hope to continue to

>learn from the parents like you that have walked the path before me.

>

>My " warmest " regards...

>

>Stacie

> & 's Mommy

>

>>

[Guest guest]

Just thought I would let you know that my family also has curved 5th

fingers.

In fact when my daughter was born almost 14 years ago I asked the

pediatrician if her fingers were broken? Of course they werent. She is 4'11 " ,

the doctors say she is done growing being that she started puberty at 10 .

She does not have RSS.

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks sooo much for explaining the " normal IUGR " vs.

" RSS IUGR " --The endo pedo we'd seen a few months ago

talked about this-and altho we couldn't exactly

remember what she'd said about 2nd and 3rd trimesters,

we did know that it contradicted her not thinking that

Jake has RSS--------At 18 weeks gestation, Jake was 17

weeks in size (not normally a big problem, but we knew

to the day(s) that I conceived due to surgery, chlomid

and some other fertility drug). At 28 weeks, (just

after the 2nd tri), Jake was 25 weeks in size

(therefore, he'd definately stopped growing in the 2nd

tri), then, at 31 weeks, he was 26 weeks in size, etc.

Well, like I said, thanks for giving that info...but,

also, like " you " said, there is nothing to do about

it...so, as long as the geneticist didn't miss some

other more " serious " syndrome with some future

concerns, he's Jake and that's all there is to it.

Interesting, too, that doesn't have the charac's

that Jake does. And, thanks for the info re: protein

being a good supplement for them to bulk up. I also

like to explore natural appetite stims, etc.

Have a great day!!

Debbi, Jake's Mom, 27lbs., 37 1/2 " (according to the

Big Bird in K-Mart)

_____________________________

_____________________________

--- tclfam@... wrote:

> Hi, everyone! (an RSS daddy) has been having

> trouble sending his

> letter to the RSS list so I am forwarding it to you

> for him.

>

> Here's his letter:

>

> > I've just caught up with a weeks emails, and a

> number of issues are

> close to my

> > heart today. I'll respond to topics, not

> individuals, as I can't keep

> up with

> > who mentioned what, and it's all kind of

> related....

> >

> > 1. Puberty, 2. Fats and Calories, 3. Flat hands,

> 4.Appetite

> stimulants, 5.

> > Learning probs.

> >

> > At our recent, first visit to Dr Stanhope, endo at

> Great Ormond Street

>

> > childrens hospital in london, he indicated

> that contrary to

> popular belief,

> > GHT does NOT bring on puberty earlier. This is

> programmed-in during

> gestation,

> > and would naturally occur early. What GHT does do

> is compress the

> pubertal

> > stage, ie. children go through it quicker with

> GHT.

> >

> > I had a conversation with a pharmacist on

> nutrition generally, whilst

> seeking

> > out homeopathic appetite stimulants. I explained

> about lack of

> subcutaneous fat

> > and fatty supplements, and he explained that both

> carbohydrates and

> protein have

> > the same calorific value. To improve " bulk " ,

> protein is given to

> develop muscle

> > tone. This leads me to question the advice of

> giving fats as dietary

> > supplements. I read an email on this serve that

> excess fats cause

> vomiting - in

> > fact too cannot tolerate heavy fats, such as

> cream. He does like

> plain

> > butter and margarine out of the tub though!

> >

> > The pharmacist also stated that Pediasure and

> Periactin are available

> as

> > over-the-counter drugs, ie. without prescription.

> Strangley, Dr

> Stanhopes only

> > comment when asked about Periactin at the CGF

> conference was that it

> not

> > licenced for prescription. So where do I go from

> here? I'm kind of

> reluctant to

> > start feeding something without recommended

> dosages etc. And do

> I go for

> > Periactin, Pediasure, Fortijuice?

> >

> > The flat hands comment was from Price,

> geneticist with interest

> in RSS.

> > She had done a study of about 50 RSS children, and

> found that some of

> them were

> > unable to flatten their hands (on a table for

> example) with the palm

> down. Their

> > hands woud remain in a slightly cupped position.

> No reason was given

> for this,

> > although she did indicate possible arthritic

> problems as a result.

> >

> > She also tabulated common findings for the group,

> of which I remember

> laerning

> > difficulties were mentioned. The point was made

> though, that it was

> not

> > consistent within the group, so even if maybe 2 or

> three were " special

> needs "

> > children, you would need to consider what the

> percentage would be in a

> " normal "

> > sample of children. I guess about 5% of pre-school

> kids requiring some

> sort of

> > special educational needs would be normal anyway,

> so perhaps don't

> read too much

> > into this. Her paper is coming out in January, and

> I think Joanne Rose

> has made

> > comment on availablity. (Hi Joanne!).

> However........

> >

> > Dr Stanhope is adamant that in order to maximise

> brain power, it's

> important to

> > feed the brain with good nutrients, especially

> during the first couple

> of years.

> > Factually, when in hypoglycaemia, the brain is

> likely to be deprived

> of some of

> > these nutrients. There is therfore a clear link

> between low blood

> sugar levels

> > and possible impaired learning ability, but this

> does not

> automatically mean

> > that there will be difficulties. He did stress, on

> a number of

> ocassions, that

> > blood sugar levels be assessed clinically. For

> kids on g-tube, I guess

> less of

> > an issue, as they get fed through the night. Also,

> he has never come

> across a

> > child that gets hypo and does not sweat, although

> again this does not

> prove the

> > reverse.

> >

> > That's it. A bit long, but helpful for some of you

> I hope. Please

> remember that

> > I am sharing my experiences and received

> research. I'm sure that just

> as most

> > peds can't agree on things to do with RSS, so we

> will all at times get

>

> > passionate about what we read on here. For what

> it's worth, my

> personal

> > feelings, after having digested 6 months worth of

> information is this.

>

> >

> > sweated only a couple of times in the first

> two years. He may

> have been

> > low, but not clinically dangerously so. However,

> due to this, and poor

> nutrition

> > generally (as a result of little eating), he

> probably will be " late "

> in some

> > aspects of learning. He has speech problems,

> although these are

> probably due to

> > teeth crowding.

> >

> > He is to be tested for blood sugar and GH levels.

> He will probably

> then go on GH

> > treatment. This is primarily to keep him up with

> his peers, and

> secondarily to

> > buld muscle tone. I will probably try protein

> supplements. Giving him

> fat makes

> > him puke.

> >

> > I have demanded a shoe lift. I shall try to get

> his teachers to treat

> him as

> > his age, not to " mother " him all of the time. He

> will get a smack just

> like his

> > big brother, when he is just as naughty. (Now I've

> opened up the gates

> of a

> > moral backlash!!)

> >

> > But Jodi is right, our kids are born with whatever

> deficiencies they

> have. No

> > point blaming anyone. They are also born with

> beautiful pretty faces,

> tender

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The email address, CSTIMM@..., is my ex-husband, Chandler Stimmel. I

believe the listserve, RSS-Solutions, is one he created. Chandler has been

conducting a survey. It is not endorsed or affiliated with The MAGIC

Foundation. I am not involved with the survey or would I participate if

asked. His approach and beliefs are different than mine. I have to be

careful what I say because it is a delicate situation as I'm sure you can

understand.

[Guest guest]

,

I can give you the email address of Dr. H.'s former secretary. Her name is

. She still works in the endo. clinic, but not for Dr. H. anymore.

She will print out any messages and give them to Dr. H. herself. It is:

sal2010@... .

My son Max takes a 10mg cyproheptadine tablet twice a day. He is 11, weighs

72 pounds and is 4'5 " (approx., anyway). I hate to advise you on dosage for

your son, but maybe that will help guide you in whatever decision you make.

We cannot buy it over the counter here in the US. Sometimes the USA is a

little behind the times. I guess overcautious is more like it. Then again,

I don't mean to be critical, but I think you know what I mean.

You may not hear back from right away. Just keep trying and she will

answer. And good luck!

Jodi

(no subject)

>From: .Mahtani@...

>

>

>

>

> Mahtani wrote:

>

> > We (at the company) have been going through numerous IT changes, and I

>have three >

> email adresses, which seem to woerk sporadically. So here is a belated

>consolidation

> of what I have tried to send recently.

>

> > , go with your instinct / heart / gut feel. You DO know what's the

>best at the

> > momemt. Keep on demanding and fighting. It took this list for me to go

and

>get

> > a different ped. I wish I had been firmer earlier. Don't let all the

> " experts "

> > with so little experience tell us parents what to do all of the time.

>Sorry

> > for sounding angry,...take my anger with the system, turn it to

positive

>use,

> > and get what you want, and who you want, for Micah.

> >

> > Easy for me to say in the UK, not knowing how it all works over in the

>States.

> > But you know, we also have brilliant people in the medical profession

and

>some

> > real ***........

> >

> > Inga, so sorry to hear about your loss. Please believe me, the hurt

will

> > diminish. The memory will of course never go away, but it will bcome

>clearer

> > that it was never meant to be. When we lost our 3rd baby, I took it

that

>she

> > chose not to continue, and that she did it for us, because to continue

>would

> > have been the wrong choice for our family then. The right things happen

at

>the

> > right time. Until then, of course cry a lot, talk a lot, but also hope

a

>lot.

> >

> >> Anyone..as you may have read, Periactin is not licensed for treatment

of

>RSS,

> >> therefore Dr Stanhope cannot recommend it - in fact, he clams shut

when

>asked

> >> about it, understandably. I can, strangely enough, and have, bought it

>over

> >> the counter anyway, and wish to start on it, as I have read many

>good

> >> results, a few non-results, and little that is (medically) negative.

My

> >> problem is that all talk on this list has been of dosages measured in

ml;

>I

> >> have pack of Periactin tablets, each 4mg anhydrous cyproheptadine

> >> hydrochloride.

> >>

> >> is 3yrs 8mths, weighs about 21 lb, takes no medication and feeds

>orally,

> >> with no reflux. Anyone know how many tablets I should give? Is there a

>generic

> >>

> >> that comes in

> >> liquid form? I don't have Dr Harbison's email address. Regards,

> >>

> >

>

>>

[Guest guest]

,

I am sure that you have mentioned where you live

before, but could you please tell me again? I am

curious as to where you can buy Periactin over the

counter?

My Ex and I have contemplated putting Shelby on

it...but, I guess in a nutshell, are very aprehensive.

From what I have read thus far (and please anyone

correct me if I am wrong) but most on Periactin have

also had to be on additional meds. to offset the

effects of the Periactin.

Shelby is doing well.....Her and I just got back from

a weekend trip to Iowa to help my Grandma celebrate

her 80th birthday. I must say though that with all

the activites and being on the go, I know that her

eating was highly affected. I encouraged but of

course being ALMOST 3 (Dec. 10th) she told me she was

a big girl and was not hungary. Guess who won that

coaxing attempt????? lol!!

Someone mentioned the bottle at 3 years of age.

Shelby still takes a couple of bottles at this time.

One is usually right before bed and the other it once

if not twice during the night. She is not allowed to

lounge during the day with a bottle, (unless she is

sick) which she likes to tell us she is sick, (but

usually telling her that she is going to the Dr. then

gets her feeling real well...quickly) She uses a sippy

cup through out the day....and to be honest I have not

been pushing the issue of taking it away from her.

I know the feeling of meal times being uncomfortable

for all....it is always a struggle...and at times the

games or coaxing just get plain old for both parent

and child. I have thought about the g-tube...but like

the periactin have some reservations. I know that

those of you that have had the same reservations and

chose to have it....are not regreting it...but my

problem is that Shelby does it....and I don't want her

to fall backwards on that. I have seen a lot of

advise that says go with your heart and only you (the

parent) knows what is best for your child...but right

now I guess what I am saying is that my heart is

confussed.

I would like to maybe get an appt with Dr. H but do

not want to 'waste " the time if that is the right word

to go there only for her to put Shelby on periactin.

We have Cigna Ins. anyone else out there with Cigna

and do they cover this visit and do you need to have a

referral?

Lots of questions and I know that I started this

letter out to but all of you that know me know

that I can get side tracked and just ramble on and on.

So this is to ALL of you and I hope that all HAD a

great and thankful THANKSGIVING!! But to tell the

truth, I really dont want to see another TURKEY

anything for awhile. =)

--Mommy to Shelby 3 On Dec. 10th. RSS no meds..

And a special welcome to ....you will find this

list GREAT!!!

=====

~~~~~~To send a letter is a good way to go somewhere without moving anything but

the heart!~~~~~~

Sue

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

,

has been on Periactin continually since he was 3 .5 years old and

has had to take NO other meds for side effects of it...There seems to be

none other than the initial adjustment period -- which was only a problem

for us when he started on it at the age of 16 months.

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[Guest guest]

Kathleen:

Music is connected with syndrome? Hmmmm, that's weird. Yes,

LOVES music. Pretty much any kind, but he goes into a trance when an orchestra

comes on t.v.. We will be flipping channels and is playing with toys on

the floor. Well, when we come across an orchestra on t.v., he'll completely

stop what he is doing and stare. We just leave it on for him. And, no, we have

no musical background in our family (unfortunately), but I think will be

the exception!

Stacie

Kathleen Fitzpatrick wrote:

>

>

> Stacie,

> That's another interesting similarity I hadn't heard. Of course I'm biased,

> but Abby is also a little charmer. Everyone at the hospital loves her-the

> OT office, the NICU people, the ST comes by to see her during her OT visits

> just to say " Hi " . They tell me she's their favorite kid. (Of course, they

> probably say that to everyone-but her OT came to her birthday party and begs

> me to let her baby sit). She also is very interested in music-especially

> Sesame Street songs and women's voices like Barbara or Celine on TV. I

> thought maybe that was because we have a slightly musical family in our

> background but maybe its an RSS thing? I know its a Syndrome

> thing.

>

> Kathleen

> (no subject)

>

> >From: tclfam@...

> >

> >:

> >

> >Another similarity.... has the greatest personality too. He's so

> >outgoing, friendly, and can charm the pants off of everyone!!!! We get

> >so many compliments on , which makes our buttons pop. Everyone says

> >that his personality will help him get through the bumps in life. I

> >believe that to be true. He's so confident and loving. I could go on

> >and on. One thing he is infactuated with is MUSIC! He loves it and

> >loves to pretend he's playing an instrument (usually a horn, like the

> >sax). The funny thing too, is that he loves to get attention and to

> >make people laugh. We all say in our family that he's a future

> >entertainer!

> >

> >Seems like a lot of these kids are this way. What cutie pies, huh!

> >

> >Stacie

> > & 's Mommy

> >

> >P.S. By the way, is 3 and the hospital he was born in still

> >remembers him and asks about him!!!!

> >

> >>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for answering me. I think I am going to just take one. Until I

talk to the doctor again..

At 05:29 PM 01/06/2000 -0200, you wrote:

>I am pregnant, and I take Natafort - once daily.

>Margaret, I'm sorry to hear about your misfortune, but it's wonderful

>that you're able to laugh about it. Your laughter helps to ease some of

>my fear about my baby that will be here in about 2 months.

>Carmen

>

>Message: 22

> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 22:51:05 -0500

>

>Subject: natafort

>

>I went to see the GYN/OB today. I am not pregnant YET but he put me on

>Natafort twice a day. I took the prescription to the pharmacy and they

>were

>concerned with too much iron and babies. Is there any one else on here

>that is on this and how many do you take. I told the pharmacist that I

>wasn't pregnant yet so that could be the reason. He is not concerned

>with

>too much iron. But now I am. What if I get pregnant and am taking this

>is

>it harmful?? He also gave me Folic acid 1 MG. I thought we should take

>800

>mg.. I am confused? Help!!! J

>

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hello all this has nothing to do with Fibro, except maybe a little Fibro fog

.It is fun :-)

<<

The following short quiz consists of 4 questions and

tells whether you

are qualified to be a " professional " . Scroll down for each

answer.

The questions are not that difficult.

1. How do you put a giraffe into a refrigerator?

The correct answer is: Open the refrigerator, put in

the giraffe and

close the door. This question tests whether you tend to do

simple things in

an overly complicated way.

2. How do you put an elephant into a refrigerator?

Wrong Answer :Open the refrigerator, put in the

elephant and close the

refrigerator.

Correct Answer: Open the refrigerator, take out the

giraffe, put in the

elephant and close the door. This tests your ability to

think through the

repercussions of your actions.

3. The Lion King is hosting an animal conference. All

the animals attend

except one. Which animal does not attend?

Correct Answer: The Elephant. The Elephant is in the

refrigerator. This

tests your memory.

OK, even if you did not answer the first three questions

correctly, you

still have one more chance to show your abilities.

4. There is a river you must cross. But it is inhabited

by crocodiles.

How do you manage it?

Correct Answer: You swim across. All the Crocodiles are

attending the

Animal Meeting. This tests whether you learn quickly from

your mistakes.

According to Andersen Consulting Worldwide, around 90% of

the professionals

they tested got all questions wrong. But many preschoolers

got several

correct answers. Consulting says this conclusively

disproves the

theory that most professionals have the brains of a four

year old.

Send this out to frustrate all of your friends

>>

The following short quiz consists of 4 questions and

tells whether you

are qualified to be a " professional " . Scroll down for each

answer.

The questions are not that difficult.

1. How do you put a giraffe into a refrigerator?

The correct answer is: Open the refrigerator, put in

the giraffe and

close the door. This question tests whether you tend to do

simple things in

an overly complicated way.

2. How do you put an elephant into a refrigerator?

Wrong Answer :Open the refrigerator, put in the

elephant and close the

refrigerator.

Correct Answer: Open the refrigerator, take out the

giraffe, put in the

elephant and close the door. This tests your ability to

think through the

repercussions of your actions.

3. The Lion King is hosting an animal conference. All

the animals attend

except one. Which animal does not attend?

Correct Answer: The Elephant. The Elephant is in the

refrigerator. This

tests your memory.

OK, even if you did not answer the first three questions

correctly, you

still have one more chance to show your abilities.

4. There is a river you must cross. But it is inhabited

by crocodiles.

How do you manage it?

Correct Answer: You swim across. All the Crocodiles are

attending the

Animal Meeting. This tests whether you learn quickly from

your mistakes.

According to Andersen Consulting Worldwide, around 90% of

the professionals

they tested got all questions wrong. But many preschoolers

got several

correct answers. Consulting says this conclusively

disproves the

theory that most professionals have the brains of a four

year old.

Send this out to frustrate all of your friends

[Guest guest]

Don Summers gave me this address to get on your email list regarding the

initial letter that I sent to him!! Please forward me an information that

you can...I would truly appreciate all the help I can get regarding my aunt's

illness!! She's extremely frustrated which only leaves me an the rest of my

family feeling helpless!!! Thank you for your help.

Sincerely,

Jeanine

JeiBear1@...

Hello! I have an aunt who was just diagnosed with MSA - striatonigral

degeneration...all along having a diagnosis of Parkinson's first, then ALS

and now finally this!!! I'm trying to get all of the info that I can so

that I can help her understand " all the big words " a little better. Is there

anywhere that I can get pamphlets or something sent to me (or even her)? I

understand that all that is really done with this disease is treatment of the

symptoms...right?! Just want to help her understand...thanks for any info

that you can pass on. Let me know if we can have the information mailed to

us!!!

Thank you again,

Jeanine

JeiBear1@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Stacee, I don't know of anything for the neck spasms but have used

Quinine (prescription) for muscle spasms (we always called them " charlie

horses " ) and they have given me great relief. I'm not MSA/SDS but it still

works.

(no subject)

> Hello everyone

>

> Spoke with my mother today I told her about this group and she

> actually would like me to ask a question. Lately along with her other

> problems she has been having awful spasms in her neck. She can't hold

> her head up she kind of leans foward hunched over. She tries to hold it

up

> to no avail

> She can't sleep because she has leg cramps so bad. She is on Naproxen

> for the pain in her neck. (vicodin didn't help) Does anyone else have

these

> problems is there any other meds she can ask her Dr. about. She wants to

> talk to all. I'm working on helping my dad get a computer for them both

they

> would really benefit from this group.

>

> Thanks

> Stacee

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Blanche,

You noted:

> It's not easy but my children said we can not have both

> of you down so i listened ...

That's sometimes the hardest thing to do for any of us ... listen.

But it does sound as if Ralph is receiving good care. Know we'll be

thinking and praying for both of you.

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

[Guest guest]

>

> The gentleman that sent this is a reserve Army Colonel who is also a

> civilian in the Army's Readiness Command and who develops Armor training

> programs.

>

> " Prewitt, " wrote:

>

> Subject: Can you name this country?

>

>

> 709,000 regular (active duty) service personnel

> 293,000 reserve troops Eight standing Army divisions

> 20 Air Force and Navy air wings with 2,000 combat aircraft

> 232 strategic bombers

> 13 strategic ballistic missile submarines with

> 3,114 nuclear warheads on

>

> 232 missiles

>

> 500 ICBMs with 11950 warheads Four aircraft carriers, and 121 surface

combat

> ships and submarines, plus all the support bases, shipyards and logistical

> assets needed to sustain such a naval force.

>

>

> Is this country Russia? . . . . . . No

> Red China? . . . . . . No

> Great Britain? . . . . . . Wrong Again France? . . . . . .

> Nope

> USA . . . . . . You are still wrong Give up??

>

> Well, don't feel too bad if you are unable to identify this global

> superpower, because this country no longer exists. It has vanished.

>

> These are the American military forces that HAVE DISAPPEARED since the

> 1992 election of Bill Clinton and Al Gore.

>

> Sleep well America, (and VOTE).