Guest guest Posted October 11, 2000 Report Share Posted October 11, 2000 Don, Are you the gentleman in Austin who spoke to my mother, Virginia Willmann? The first part of your email address is the same, but the last is not. Worth > >Reply-To: shydrageregroups >To: <shydrageregroups> >Subject: Fw: (no subject) >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:23:53 -0500 > > > > > > > > The gentleman that sent this is a reserve Army Colonel who is also a > > civilian in the Army's Readiness Command and who develops Armor training > > programs. > > > > " Prewitt, " wrote: > > > > Subject: Can you name this country? > > > > > > 709,000 regular (active duty) service personnel > > 293,000 reserve troops Eight standing Army divisions > > 20 Air Force and Navy air wings with 2,000 combat aircraft > > 232 strategic bombers > > 13 strategic ballistic missile submarines with > > 3,114 nuclear warheads on > > > > 232 missiles > > > > 500 ICBMs with 11950 warheads Four aircraft carriers, and 121 surface >combat > > ships and submarines, plus all the support bases, shipyards and >logistical > > assets needed to sustain such a naval force. > > > > > > Is this country Russia? . . . . . . No > > Red China? . . . . . . No > > Great Britain? . . . . . . Wrong Again France? . . . . . . > > Nope > > USA . . . . . . You are still wrong Give up?? > > > > Well, don't feel too bad if you are unable to identify this global > > superpower, because this country no longer exists. It has vanished. > > > > These are the American military forces that HAVE DISAPPEARED since the > > 1992 election of Bill Clinton and Al Gore. > > > > Sleep well America, (and VOTE). > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2000 Report Share Posted October 11, 2000 Dom, Here we go again - that is not entirely true. Doesn't anyone check to see if these emails have any basis in fact? All of the government shipyards were scheduled to be phased out under Republican presidents as they feel that the private sector can build ships at less cost. NO one phased out more Government shipyards than Eisenhower, I was working for the Navy at the time. Seems to me that Reagan and/or Bush signed treaties with the USSR over getting rid of the huge stockpile of nuclear weapons, should Clinton have ignored the treaty? All of us know that we are past that type of war. Wars from now on will be fought against terrorists and rougue counties just like we are doing now and Bush did in Desert Storm, in fact - Why did Bush stop Dessert Storm when in two more days we could have totally destroyed Hussein? Let's face it - he stopped because of world politics Russia was having a cow and our allies did not want to go ahead with it. As far as National Guard and Reserves go, we had a technology gap even in 1961 when I went into the Air Guard. We were using World War II tube type radios at 4-8 megahertz when the Air Force was using solid state single sideband radios at 200-400 Mhz. You can not maintain profiency in a Guard unit when you are not working on the same type of equipment. By 1967 we got one single sideband radio in our unit and none of us could fix it. It does no good to train men on outdated technology. My brother was in the regular Air Force during Desert storm and complained about the contractors moving equipment to Saudi Arabia. He blamed it on Bush, but there again, a little looking and you find that it was initiated under Reagan. He left the Air Force as a Senior Master Sargent and is now making a six figure salary contracting the installation of cell phone antenna's. Much of the contracting out started by Reagan and Bush is responsible for top people leaving at least in the Air Force. Much of the equipment that was not replaced is because it was built at the height of the cold war and it no longer needed and outdated. We need the next generation equipment, but much of it is held up because of pet projects wanted by Senators and Congressmen for own areas of the country and often the military does not want - this includes pork barrel projects by members of both parties. I have been to several meetings of DARPA and the newer ARPA and hear the same message from the military. We don't need more officers! We need more highly trained technical personnel and we can't find them! There is a meeting on November 13-14 in Baltimore by the ATP (Advanced Technology Program) and I'll bet it is the same story. It has been the same for the 15 years I have been attending them. Part of this problem is that Universities do not want to teach two year courses. The professors might have to teach more than one or two courses. I have more computing power on my desk than the entire Dept. of Interior had in the basement of a building one block square. It took 23 people to run that computer per shift and many more to program it. It took as much as a month to run a simple modeling program that I can run in seconds now - all by myself. With contacting out of mess halls, some supply functions and medical work could that account for some of those numbers? Finally this is another biased person who is going to lose his Social Security benefits. You admit he is a civilian and a military person so he will get two government pensions already. It sounds as if he is at least a GS-14 from your description which would give him a pension of about $60,000 per year, if he worked at it for 40 years (military time counts too). Then even figuring 20 years in the military ot National Guard and a Full Colonel, he would get another $40,000 for that. Now because of all that government money they have cut his Social Security from about $14,000 down to about $10,000. Sorry, but I can't feel sorry for him when there are widows getting $8,000 per year in Social Security after their husbands worked 50 years under Social Security. The fact remains that Bush has said he will ban research (just as his dad did) at NIH if he is elected. We know that that research has produced dopamine producing neurons and earlier research within the last eight years has demonstrated improvments in Parkinson's patients. We do not yet know if it will help MSA patients. Do we want that research banned at NIH? Arlen Spector, McCain, Mack and other Republicans want the research to continue, why should one man ban it? Take care, Bill and Charlotte P.S. How many troups HAVE the other countries lost since then? The USSR's Navy is considerably less. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ - Don Summers wrote: > > > > The gentleman that sent this is a reserve Army Colonel who is also a > > civilian in the Army's Readiness Command and who develops Armor training > > programs. > > > > " Prewitt, " wrote: > > > > Subject: Can you name this country? > > > > > > 709,000 regular (active duty) service personnel > > 293,000 reserve troops Eight standing Army divisions > > 20 Air Force and Navy air wings with 2,000 combat aircraft > > 232 strategic bombers > > 13 strategic ballistic missile submarines with > > 3,114 nuclear warheads on > > > > 232 missiles > > > > 500 ICBMs with 11950 warheads Four aircraft carriers, and 121 surface > combat > > ships and submarines, plus all the support bases, shipyards and logistical > > assets needed to sustain such a naval force. > > > > > > Is this country Russia? . . . . . . No > > Red China? . . . . . . No > > Great Britain? . . . . . . Wrong Again France? . . . . . . > > Nope > > USA . . . . . . You are still wrong Give up?? > > > > Well, don't feel too bad if you are unable to identify this global > > superpower, because this country no longer exists. It has vanished. > > > > These are the American military forces that HAVE DISAPPEARED since the > > 1992 election of Bill Clinton and Al Gore. > > > > Sleep well America, (and VOTE). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 Ann, we all feel that you have to free yourself to survive. I hope my daughter doesn't come back as it has saved me from such heart ache and enormous fighting and causing a huge split in an already fragile family structure. You had to do what you had to do for the well being of each other and that is not wrong. You will still be able to offer advise and help I am sure and you still love regardless. best wishes, Lyn >Reply-To: WTOParentsOfBPs >To: wtoparentsofbps >Subject: (no subject) >Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:19:35 EST > >I am not a parent but a grandparent of an 18 year old who has been >diagnosed >with BPD and bi-polar. He has been also diagnosed with ADDHD. He and his >mother lived with my husband and I from infancy until age 10 when his >mother >married. He has never met his father. The stepfather was verbally abusive >to him. At 14, things got so bad, we (my daughter, my husband and I) >decided >to put him in a residential treatment facility. Unfortunately, that didn't >work. He was there almost 3 years (far too long, I now believe). The only >thing he received out of those 3 years was a high school diploma. He came >home in May last year. The next day he burned his arms (third degree >burns) >in the sign of a cross while drugging/drinking. After about a month, my >daughter threw him out - he was bringing friends and girls in the house >while >she was at work. (She had divorced the stepfather while he was away.) He >broke in the house and stole some liquor, food and clothing. For about a >month he lived with some " drug dealers " so he said. He was arrested for >shoplifting in July. My daughter let him come home but things didn't work >out. She went for an order of protection. Things got worse and she had >him >arrested and he was put in a psychiatric unit. After being released, he >came >to my home. He has been in and out of here since late September. The last >time he left I told him he could not come back again. It is very difficult >for us as we are in our late 60's and retired. It is very hard to be >strong >and let him go. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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