Re: Figuring out the meals

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone! It's me...the inexperienced keto mom who is trying to figure all

of this out. I met with the dietician last week who went thru the meal planner

with me. I understand how it works and how to manipulate it just fine. What I

cannot figure out is how to manipulate a recipe and make it fit the

ratio/calories etc...that is required. I printed out all the recipes from the

files on the ketogenic group site and there's some I know my daughter would like

but by the time I mess around with the grams and get it to the right ratio it

doesn't seem appetizing at all!!! Either I have to reduce the meat so much or

increase the fat (mayo or butter) so high that it'd be just gross. I think most

of the recipes are for 4:1 ratio and we will be starting at a 2:1 for a few

days. Does anyone have any good hints at how to work these numbers? I also

need some carb food that are just mostly pure carbs and won't throw off the

proteins and fats in the recipes. Any ideas? There are some grains in the food

list with the meal planner but most supply protein and fat too which screws with

the basic meal. I spent almost an hour on a chicken casserole and nearly pulled

my hair out before just giving up. Even when I was working with the dietician

the meals just didn't seem all that appetizing. I don't think she's very

experienced. There must be an easier way. How do others figure their meals and

is there a trick to the meal planner for ratio adjusting recipes that I should

be aware of???? HELPPP!! :-) If anyone could or wants to give me a bologne and

cheese meal plan on a 2:1 ratio with 1425 cal and 21g of protein for (4 meals a

day) I'd be happy. Or maybe a broc and cheese or some sort of chicken casserole

or the Eggplant fries or zucinni fries. Thanks!

[Guest guest]

..... don't worry, you'll get the hang of it. Katera is on a 2:1 ratio so I

have a few meals. She pretty much eats the same six meals over and over (I make

minor changes in what veggies I use without recalculating sometimes). If you

want them, let me know.

Patti

Re: Figuring out the meals

Hi everyone! It's me...the inexperienced keto mom who is trying to figure all

of this out. I met with the dietician last week who went thru the meal planner

with me. I understand how it works and how to manipulate it just fine. What I

cannot figure out is how to manipulate a recipe and make it fit the

ratio/calories etc...that is required. I printed out all the recipes from the

files on the ketogenic group site and there's some I know my daughter would like

but by the time I mess around with the grams and get it to the right ratio it

doesn't seem appetizing at all!!! Either I have to reduce the meat so much or

increase the fat (mayo or butter) so high that it'd be just gross. I think most

of the recipes are for 4:1 ratio and we will be starting at a 2:1 for a few

days. Does anyone have any good hints at how to work these numbers? I also

need some carb food that are just mostly pure carbs and won't throw off the

proteins and fats in the recipes. Any ideas? There are some grains in the food

list with the meal planner but most supply protein and fat too which screws with

the basic meal. I spent almost an hour on a chicken casserole and nearly pulled

my hair out before just giving up. Even when I was working with the dietician

the meals just didn't seem all that appetizing. I don't think she's very

experienced. There must be an easier way. How do others figure their meals and

is there a trick to the meal planner for ratio adjusting recipes that I should

be aware of???? HELPPP!! :-) If anyone could or wants to give me a bologne and

cheese meal plan on a 2:1 ratio with 1425 cal and 21g of protein for (4 meals a

day) I'd be happy. Or maybe a broc and cheese or some sort of chicken casserole

or the Eggplant fries or zucinni fries. Thanks!

[Guest guest]

-- I'll send you my meal planner so you can get an idea what I do with

a 3.1 ratio. To deal with all the fat, I give Leo an approximately 40 gram

shake made out of cream(or whipped cream) with cocoa, stevia and a little

vanilla or mint, and usually " bury " about 10 grams of oil in the shake,

which I then freeze until its the consistency of soft ice cream. That packs

in a lot of the fat and makes the rest of the meal less oily. He doesn't

eat mayonnaise so I don't have the luxury of getting the fat in that way.

One of the meals he likes best is scrambled eggs made with a little cream,

fried in browned butter, with tomatoes, stravberries, bacon and a chocolate

shake. My recipes are a bit of a hodge podge now because I've been fooling

around with his calories (trying to reduce them) but they should at least

give you some ideas. It does seems gross, I know. But they adjust. You

just have to discover the way they can best tolerate the fat -- as butter,

cream, oil, or whatever. Later you can adjust. We also make Hebrew National

hotdogs which pack in a lot of fat. Then I can mix some ketchup with mayo,

which on occasion, he will eat. Don't worry. It will come. Best, jane

Re: Figuring out the meals

Hi everyone! It's me...the inexperienced keto mom who is trying to figure

all of this out. I met with the dietician last week who went thru the meal

planner with me. I understand how it works and how to manipulate it just

fine. What I cannot figure out is how to manipulate a recipe and make it

fit the ratio/calories etc...that is required. I printed out all the

recipes from the files on the ketogenic group site and there's some I know

my daughter would like but by the time I mess around with the grams and get

it to the right ratio it doesn't seem appetizing at all!!! Either I have to

reduce the meat so much or increase the fat (mayo or butter) so high that

it'd be just gross. I think most of the recipes are for 4:1 ratio and we

will be starting at a 2:1 for a few days. Does anyone have any good hints

at how to work these numbers? I also need some carb food that are just

mostly pure carbs and won't throw off the proteins and fats in the recipes.

! Any ideas? There are some grains in the food list with the meal planner

but most supply protein and fat too which screws with the basic meal. I

spent almost an hour on a chicken casserole and nearly pulled my hair out

before just giving up. Even when I was working with the dietician the meals

just didn't seem all that appetizing. I don't think she's very experienced.

There must be an easier way. How do others figure their meals and is there

a trick to the meal planner for ratio adjusting recipes that I should be

aware of???? HELPPP!! :-) If anyone could or wants to give me a bologne

and cheese meal plan on a 2:1 ratio with 1425 cal and 21g of protein for (4

meals a day) I'd be happy. Or maybe a broc and cheese or some sort of

chicken casserole or the Eggplant fries or zucinni fries. Thanks!

[Guest guest]

What a great idea. Thanks for this. Mike loves his ketchup (altho it is

a very small amount) and it would be great to be able to give him more

(or at least make it look like more)

Jenn

Eikrapf@... wrote:

> JANE,

>

> I LIKE THE IDEA OF ADDING KETCHUP WITH THE MAYO. IT WOULD " SEEM: " LIKE

> MORE

> KETCHUP. !!!

>

> THANKS FOR THE TIP!!!!!!!

>

> EILEEN

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

JANE,

I LIKE THE IDEA OF ADDING KETCHUP WITH THE MAYO. IT WOULD " SEEM: " LIKE MORE

KETCHUP. !!!

THANKS FOR THE TIP!!!!!!!

EILEEN

[Guest guest]

Tell me where can I get one of these meal planners? Are they digital? Thanks

G

Jane Praeger wrote: -- I'll send you my

meal planner so you can get an idea what I do with

a 3.1 ratio. To deal with all the fat, I give Leo an approximately 40 gram

shake made out of cream(or whipped cream) with cocoa, stevia and a little

vanilla or mint, and usually " bury " about 10 grams of oil in the shake,

which I then freeze until its the consistency of soft ice cream. That packs

in a lot of the fat and makes the rest of the meal less oily. He doesn't

eat mayonnaise so I don't have the luxury of getting the fat in that way.

One of the meals he likes best is scrambled eggs made with a little cream,

fried in browned butter, with tomatoes, stravberries, bacon and a chocolate

shake. My recipes are a bit of a hodge podge now because I've been fooling

around with his calories (trying to reduce them) but they should at least

give you some ideas. It does seems gross, I know. But they adjust. You

just have to discover the way they can best tolerate the fat -- as butter,

cream, oil, or whatever. Later you can adjust. We also make Hebrew National

hotdogs which pack in a lot of fat. Then I can mix some ketchup with mayo,

which on occasion, he will eat. Don't worry. It will come. Best, jane

Re: Figuring out the meals

Hi everyone! It's me...the inexperienced keto mom who is trying to figure

all of this out. I met with the dietician last week who went thru the meal

planner with me. I understand how it works and how to manipulate it just

fine. What I cannot figure out is how to manipulate a recipe and make it

fit the ratio/calories etc...that is required. I printed out all the

recipes from the files on the ketogenic group site and there's some I know

my daughter would like but by the time I mess around with the grams and get

it to the right ratio it doesn't seem appetizing at all!!! Either I have to

reduce the meat so much or increase the fat (mayo or butter) so high that

it'd be just gross. I think most of the recipes are for 4:1 ratio and we

will be starting at a 2:1 for a few days. Does anyone have any good hints

at how to work these numbers? I also need some carb food that are just

mostly pure carbs and won't throw off the proteins and fats in the recipes.

! Any ideas? There are some grains in the food list with the meal planner

but most supply protein and fat too which screws with the basic meal. I

spent almost an hour on a chicken casserole and nearly pulled my hair out

before just giving up. Even when I was working with the dietician the meals

just didn't seem all that appetizing. I don't think she's very experienced.

There must be an easier way. How do others figure their meals and is there

a trick to the meal planner for ratio adjusting recipes that I should be

aware of???? HELPPP!! :-) If anyone could or wants to give me a bologne

and cheese meal plan on a 2:1 ratio with 1425 cal and 21g of protein for (4

meals a day) I'd be happy. Or maybe a broc and cheese or some sort of

chicken casserole or the Eggplant fries or zucinni fries. Thanks!

[Guest guest]

-- the meal planner is an excel program you can download from the web

(stanford meal planner -- I thinkthe ketogenic web site gives you the

address) to help you figure out your meals. Its easy to use and I can't

imagine doing the diet without it. You just plug in your ratio, calories,

proteins, and it helps you figure out how many grams of everything you can

include. If you have excel, I'll be happy to send you mine as well. My

son is on a 3.1 ratio. Best, jane

Re: Figuring out the meals

Hi everyone! It's me...the inexperienced keto mom who is trying to

figure

all of this out. I met with the dietician last week who went thru the

meal

planner with me. I understand how it works and how to manipulate it just

fine. What I cannot figure out is how to manipulate a recipe and make it

fit the ratio/calories etc...that is required. I printed out all the

recipes from the files on the ketogenic group site and there's some I know

my daughter would like but by the time I mess around with the grams and

get

it to the right ratio it doesn't seem appetizing at all!!! Either I have

to

reduce the meat so much or increase the fat (mayo or butter) so high that

it'd be just gross. I think most of the recipes are for 4:1 ratio and we

will be starting at a 2:1 for a few days. Does anyone have any good hints

at how to work these numbers? I also need some carb food that are just

mostly pure carbs and won't throw off the proteins and fats in the

recipes.

! Any ideas? There are some grains in the food list with the meal planner

but most supply protein and fat too which screws with the basic meal. I

spent almost an hour on a chicken casserole and nearly pulled my hair out

before just giving up. Even when I was working with the dietician the

meals

just didn't seem all that appetizing. I don't think she's very

experienced.

There must be an easier way. How do others figure their meals and is

there

a trick to the meal planner for ratio adjusting recipes that I should be

aware of???? HELPPP!! :-) If anyone could or wants to give me a bologne

and cheese meal plan on a 2:1 ratio with 1425 cal and 21g of protein for

(4

meals a day) I'd be happy. Or maybe a broc and cheese or some sort of

chicken casserole or the Eggplant fries or zucinni fries. Thanks!

[Guest guest]

-JANE That would be great if you can send me yours also, I had to

check believe it or not to see if I had excel. lol I couldn't

remember. Its so hard for me to do that stuff. Thank you,

-- In ketogenic@y..., " Jane Praeger " <janepraeger@c...> wrote:

> -- the meal planner is an excel program you can download from

the web

> (stanford meal planner -- I thinkthe ketogenic web site gives you

the

> address) to help you figure out your meals. Its easy to use and I

can't

> imagine doing the diet without it. You just plug in your ratio,

calories,

> proteins, and it helps you figure out how many grams of everything

you can

> include. If you have excel, I'll be happy to send you mine as

well. My

> son is on a 3.1 ratio. Best, jane

> Re: Figuring out the meals

>

>

> Hi everyone! It's me...the inexperienced keto mom who is

trying to

> figure

> all of this out. I met with the dietician last week who went

thru the

> meal

> planner with me. I understand how it works and how to manipulate

it just

> fine. What I cannot figure out is how to manipulate a recipe and

make it

> fit the ratio/calories etc...that is required. I printed out all

the

> recipes from the files on the ketogenic group site and there's

some I know

> my daughter would like but by the time I mess around with the

grams and

> get

> it to the right ratio it doesn't seem appetizing at all!!!

Either I have

> to

> reduce the meat so much or increase the fat (mayo or butter) so

high that

> it'd be just gross. I think most of the recipes are for 4:1

ratio and we

> will be starting at a 2:1 for a few days. Does anyone have any

good hints

> at how to work these numbers? I also need some carb food that

are just

> mostly pure carbs and won't throw off the proteins and fats in the

> recipes.

> ! Any ideas? There are some grains in the food list with the

meal planner

> but most supply protein and fat too which screws with the basic

meal. I

> spent almost an hour on a chicken casserole and nearly pulled my

hair out

> before just giving up. Even when I was working with the

dietician the

> meals

> just didn't seem all that appetizing. I don't think she's very

> experienced.

> There must be an easier way. How do others figure their meals

and is

> there

> a trick to the meal planner for ratio adjusting recipes that I

should be

> aware of???? HELPPP!! :-) If anyone could or wants to give me a

bologne

> and cheese meal plan on a 2:1 ratio with 1425 cal and 21g of

protein for

> (4

> meals a day) I'd be happy. Or maybe a broc and cheese or some

sort of

> chicken casserole or the Eggplant fries or zucinni fries. Thanks!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-- have tried to send the meal planner a few times and it keeps jamming

halfway through the send. DOn't know why. I'll try again later . (and talk

to my resident experts when they get home.) Best, jane. In the meantime,

why don't you check the recipe site that someone just started?

Best, jane

Re: Figuring out the meals

>

>

> Hi everyone! It's me...the inexperienced keto mom who is

trying to

> figure

> all of this out. I met with the dietician last week who went

thru the

> meal

> planner with me. I understand how it works and how to manipulate

it just

> fine. What I cannot figure out is how to manipulate a recipe and

make it

> fit the ratio/calories etc...that is required. I printed out all

the

> recipes from the files on the ketogenic group site and there's

some I know

> my daughter would like but by the time I mess around with the

grams and

> get

> it to the right ratio it doesn't seem appetizing at all!!!

Either I have

> to

> reduce the meat so much or increase the fat (mayo or butter) so

high that

> it'd be just gross. I think most of the recipes are for 4:1

ratio and we

> will be starting at a 2:1 for a few days. Does anyone have any

good hints

> at how to work these numbers? I also need some carb food that

are just

> mostly pure carbs and won't throw off the proteins and fats in the

> recipes.

> ! Any ideas? There are some grains in the food list with the

meal planner

> but most supply protein and fat too which screws with the basic

meal. I

> spent almost an hour on a chicken casserole and nearly pulled my

hair out

> before just giving up. Even when I was working with the

dietician the

> meals

> just didn't seem all that appetizing. I don't think she's very

> experienced.

> There must be an easier way. How do others figure their meals

and is

> there

> a trick to the meal planner for ratio adjusting recipes that I

should be

> aware of???? HELPPP!! :-) If anyone could or wants to give me a

bologne

> and cheese meal plan on a 2:1 ratio with 1425 cal and 21g of

protein for

> (4

> meals a day) I'd be happy. Or maybe a broc and cheese or some

sort of

> chicken casserole or the Eggplant fries or zucinni fries. Thanks!

>

>

>