Re: Digest Number 130

[Guest guest]

Barbara,

Don't know why this happens, but when I downloaded it was a different digest.

If you have time, could you resend this one? Looks like there are a couple of

really good ones in here.

Thanks....

Ann

[Guest guest]

Thanks to all of you for the responses to my sleep questions.

Yesterday I " disciplined " for her behavior the two nights before by

running her around the block (.7 miles) twice and walking once. We both had

lots of fun, actually...it was good time. We're going to do it again today,

but this time as a " punishment " for cutting one of her new tee-shirts to

bits (she was trying to make it sleeveless and a belly-button shirt...and

she succeeded!). I told her I think it would be a good idea to run together

everyday, but she's still skeptical...as an asthmatic, she's always feared

breathing hard. But that's under control, so it's time to try some new

things.

Anyway, she slept better last night because she was exhausted, I upped her

prescribed Ativan at the doctor's suggestion, and I added 'point incentives'

based on our daytime system of giving points for desired behaviors. Last

night she could earn a point for 5 minutes of lying down with her eyes

closed and another point for every five minutes of silence (the hardest part

for her; she's quite a talker). The points could be earned between the

hours of 7-9, giving her an incentive to fall asleep before 9. She earned

38, and she's very excited about redeeming them. What excited me was that

she fell asleep by 8 p.m. Last night she told me she was staying awake to

make sure she didn't throw up. I told her that getting more sleep was a

better way to keep her body healthy. She said, " I think I already lost that

chance by staying up two nights in a row. " I told her that every day we get

a new chance to keep our bodies healthy and that she hadn't " blown "

anything! She said, " In that case, I'm going to sleep. I'm tired!! " And

she did.

Kids....they're amazing.

BTW, for those who don't have OCD and can't imagine what it's like to live

with obsessions, try reading Colas' book " Just Checking. " It's

troubling (the reviewers say " Funny, " but they probably don't live with OCD

like we do), and it is providing me with a great deal of insight.

in PA

[Guest guest]

Hi

I can emphasize with you, the not knowing is very difficult to deal

with. I felt such a relief when told that I had AIH; a disease that

could be treated. There are far more disabling diseases out there, with

a more pessimistic outlook. Good luck with your diagnosis, hope all

goes well for you. Were you told to stop any medication and stay away

from alcohol and animal fats?

Have a good day

AIH

_________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

:

NO DRINKING OR EATING FOODS IN WINE SAUCES. BUT THAT IS OK. I DIDN'T DRINK

VERY MUCH. BUT NOTHING ABOUT MY FOOD INTAKE UNTIL LAST SPRING AND I TRIED

FOR TWO WEEKS AND NO RESULTS NOT EVAN A POUND. WILL START AGAIN WITH

SOMETHING ELSE. I WAITING UNTIL I AM BACK TO 10 MG OF PREDNISONE AND THE

START AGAIN.

SUE AIH

WISCONSIN

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,

I wasn't told to stay away from anything! I don't know if that was because

it didn't matter or because they just neglected to tell me what I had to

do. I was sent to a Dietician, however, by the transplant doctors as part

of pre-transplant evaluation.

No warning to me about alcohol because I'd already told them I don't drink

since it usually makes me sick. I was told that I require almost a full

pound of protein daily - far more than I could possibly consume. I asked

about alternatives to meat, like beans, etc., and the dietician thought

that I would never be able to eat enough of them in a day to give me the

amount of protein I need.

The reason for the high protein requirement (for me) is because, despite

apparent weight gains, there can be a danger of malnutrition due to the

liver's failure to absorb necessary nutrients. However, for some people

who have a problem with ammonia in their systems, animal proteins are to be

avoided.

I was also told that I should avoid any kind of raw fish (sushi), shellfish

unless well cooked, and raw meats (like carpacchio?). This is because of

the Prednisone, not the liver disease, or so I understood. Salt should be

restricted to around 2000 mgs. daily if possible, if fluid retention is a

problem.

I've noticed that many of us have been given entirely different dietary

guidelines so it's difficult to know what's right.

Geri

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>Hi

>I can emphasize with you, the not knowing is very difficult to deal

>with. I felt such a relief when told that I had AIH; a disease that

>could be treated. There are far more disabling diseases out there, with

>a more pessimistic outlook. Good luck with your diagnosis, hope all

>goes well for you. Were you told to stop any medication and stay away

>from alcohol and animal fats?

>

>Have a good day

>AIH

>

>_

,

Have not been told anything yet. 7pm tomorrow night I expect to get cat

scan results. My upper abdomen is so swollen and hard. I get right side

pain in area of liver. Ultasound of gb is negative.

Hope get some real news soon.

________________________________________________________

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>Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 130

>Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 13:46:51 -0700

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>,

>I wasn't told to stay away from anything! I don't know if that was because

>it didn't matter or because they just neglected to tell me what I had to

>do. I was sent to a Dietician, however, by the transplant doctors as part

>of pre-transplant evaluation.

>

>No warning to me about alcohol because I'd already told them I don't drink

>since it usually makes me sick. I was told that I require almost a full

>pound of protein daily - far more than I could possibly consume. I asked

>about alternatives to meat, like beans, etc., and the dietician thought

>that I would never be able to eat enough of them in a day to give me the

>amount of protein I need.

>

>The reason for the high protein requirement (for me) is because, despite

>apparent weight gains, there can be a danger of malnutrition due to the

>liver's failure to absorb necessary nutrients. However, for some people

>who have a problem with ammonia in their systems, animal proteins are to be

>avoided.

>

>I was also told that I should avoid any kind of raw fish (sushi), shellfish

>unless well cooked, and raw meats (like carpacchio?). This is because of

>the Prednisone, not the liver disease, or so I understood. Salt should be

>restricted to around 2000 mgs. daily if possible, if fluid retention is a

>problem.

>

>I've noticed that many of us have been given entirely different dietary

>guidelines so it's difficult to know what's right.

>Geri

>

>Geri,

I have diabetes as well as liver disease. Have not been given instruction

regarding food and liver disease. I have high acid content in my body. If

I dont eat a lot of protein, I dont feel well.

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

,

My husband also craves protein. He has to have some in the morning or he

feels ill all day. He doesn't have any organic medical problems but

obviously his body is sending him a message.

Take care,

Geri

[Guest guest]

,

Is your diabetes caused from the meds. (Mine is). You should really watch

what you eat. A dietitian can help in this field for you.

SueB.

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> >,

> >I wasn't told to stay away from anything! I don't know if that was

because

> >it didn't matter or because they just neglected to tell me what I had to

> >do. I was sent to a Dietician, however, by the transplant doctors as

part

> >of pre-transplant evaluation.

> >

> >No warning to me about alcohol because I'd already told them I don't

drink

> >since it usually makes me sick. I was told that I require almost a full

> >pound of protein daily - far more than I could possibly consume. I

asked

> >about alternatives to meat, like beans, etc., and the dietician thought

> >that I would never be able to eat enough of them in a day to give me the

> >amount of protein I need.

> >

> >The reason for the high protein requirement (for me) is because, despite

> >apparent weight gains, there can be a danger of malnutrition due to the

> >liver's failure to absorb necessary nutrients. However, for some people

> >who have a problem with ammonia in their systems, animal proteins are to

be

> >avoided.

> >

> >I was also told that I should avoid any kind of raw fish (sushi),

shellfish

> >unless well cooked, and raw meats (like carpacchio?). This is because

of

> >the Prednisone, not the liver disease, or so I understood. Salt should

be

> >restricted to around 2000 mgs. daily if possible, if fluid retention is

a

> >problem.

> >

> >I've noticed that many of us have been given entirely different dietary

> >guidelines so it's difficult to know what's right.

> >Geri

> >

> >Geri,

> I have diabetes as well as liver disease. Have not been given

instruction

> regarding food and liver disease. I have high acid content in my body.

If

> I dont eat a lot of protein, I dont feel well.

>

>

> >---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hello,

It has been a long while since I wrote anything here.

I don't get e-mail digests from the other bandster

groups anymore because I am just to busy to keep up

with the reading. I have continued to get the PNWB

daily e-mail digest though.

I have been through quite a health ordeal for the last

two months. Originally my symptoms were a very high

fever and chills. The doctors found a heart murmur

which I'd never had and a very high white blood count

and was anemic. I got cat scanned, echo, ekg and tons

of blood tests. The cat scan showed lots of gall

stones. I had lost 120 pounds and I guess you can get

gall stones from that much weight loss. So, I had gall

bladder surgery which was successful.

Next chapter...same symptoms back. This time into

hospital for pneumonia....

I had bacterial pneumonia from reflux...

I had some saline taken out and we discovered that

from November to May my band had absorbed fluid and

had become tighter on it's own. I had 4.25 cc !!!

No wonder I had been having much worse reflux.

I am now back down to 3.00 cc.

It appears what happened is my band absorbed fluid

from by body and became too tight. I had lots of

reflux at night and apparently I aspirated one night

and some of the refluxed food went into my lung

causing bacterial pneumonia...

hey think I became anemic from having this untreated

infection and because I was anemic I got a functional

heart murmur because my heart was working harder.

So I am now on my third course of antibiotics...I got

the pneumonia back after each of the first two

courses. This is scarey stuff and bacterial pneumonia

is a really tough kind of pneumonia to get rid of.

I missed 6 weeks of work and am now on my third day

back to work.

Prior to this I had only been in the hospital once and

that was with Dr.Rumbaut for the AGB.

Moral of the story: bands can tighten by themselves

and if reflux is bad pay attention before it gets bad

enough to aspirate.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Beau, for your excellent suggestions on the smaller ferments. . .

I'll be using them all.

And PLEASE please please, share you favorite pickled lime recipe! I would

love to make my own. I bought and used a small jar (which was way too

expensive) and I found it could be used anywhere I would normally use kaffir

lime leaves, which I adore flavoring and cooking with.

I hate air conditioning, so seldom use it , but it gets much warmer than

some ferments like in my house, so I usually do big jobs of saurkraut in

winter and store in back of a second fridge for the really hot months. I

know all the old folks around here used to have root cellars, or if they

were fortunate enough to have a running stream on their place, had a spring

house, where they could keep perishable goods. So your idea of burying a

garbage can, which one could store stuff in (with a good tight lid to keep

out the 'coons) might be worth the effort. Good ideas. . . thanks again,

Norma

Message: 5

Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:07:55 -0800

From: Beau Barrett <Beau.Barrett@...>

Subject: Re: Digest Number 128 Harsch Fermenting Pot

Hi Norma,

You mentioned having less than desirable results when doing smaller

batches..

I know how it can be hard to " commit " to the duty of filling your

crock to the brim when you are trying new recipes..

My method that is very simple, and nearly as effective as your Harsch

crock at keeping the oxygen out of the fermenting container.. Instead

of using cheesecloth to cover your smaller vessels o' veggies, use a

double layer of plastic/saran type wrap, pull tight and secure with a

rubber band..

The gas will build up and be able to slowly escape from the

container, but will have to force itself out past the rubber band.

This create's a moderate positive pressure of carbon dioxide in the

brewing vessel, similar to how the Harsch works.

If you do this and do not remove the plastic until you are ready to

try it or jar it up, you will have good results and little or no

surface scum.

I have had excellent results this way..better than a lidded jar.

BTW if you can't find a cold enough spot for your ferments, you might

consider digging a hole in the backyard under a tree or shady spot. No

Joke, if you bury a garbage can or large bucket and cover with a

blanket or hay, you can achieve ideal 40-60F temps year round. Not

sure about your area though (I'm in Northern Ca).

I have a buried 5 gal bucket and it's where I put things when it's

too warm inside or if there is no room in the fridge.

Jack, I wanted a Harsch crock really bad, but I don't often have that

much $ to spare for something that I felt I could get by without.

It's a genius idea and an excellent piece of craftsmanship, but I

found a 3 gal pickling crock in great shape at the thrift store for

$35, a brand new 2 gal pickling crock at the local culinary/farm store

for $28 and a 2 quart porcelain crock for around $14.

You can cut a " sauerkraut board " from Poplar, which is just a round

wooden disc with a " finger hole " to grab it with, that fits neatly

into the top of the crock. You put your weight on it, then cover the

top of the crock with plastic wrap..

I like to have a few different size and type batches going at a time,

so ONE large crock would not suit me anyway, I end up using smaller

crocks and jars alot for " condiment " type pickles like pickled limes

and pickled pearl onions.

If you don't want to fuss with the old school ways and want a neat and

contained " unit " , the Harsch would be the way to go.

I'm just a " second hand " type of guy

...another man's trash is my pickle jar..

Take Care,

Beau