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Duane Helm wrote:

> I lost a lot of info when my other computer crashed.. but will try from

>

> memory(which is dangerous)lol...on the subject of vitamin b-12

> treatment...the useage of the shot is not i.v...its

> i.m...inter-muscular..you can give the shot in the same manner as a

> diebetic does..thigh/buttocks or sub-cutaneous.(under the skin) i am

> amazed with the number of people i use to talk to that have heard of

> b-12 but never tried it..a friend of mine in calif. and i use ourselves

> as human guinea pigs...we have being using b-12 for 5-6 years and have

> had substantial relief from joint and muscle pain..along with better

> cognitive skills and increased energy. i even used it on 2 friends that

> dont have any cfs or fibro(checking for the placebo effect)...both on

> 8-10 occasions...noticed marked increase in phyical energy and increased

> mental alertness....i am totally convinced b-12 and b-complex reduce

> pain and increase alertness..it also helps people who suffers bouts of

> anemia...b-12 helps increase red bloods cell production..somehow EBV/cfs

> affects numerous glands in the body that controls meletonin/seritonin

> levels along with-blood sugar regulation..i.e..hypoglacemia...low

> thyroid...i was so depleted of b-vitamins..i actually has symptoms of

> beri-beri (numbness in fingers/toes/blurred vision/lethargic/confusion)

> do to mal-absorbtion..which your body cant absorb vitamins from food

> that you eat or supplements...what b-12 does is to help keep the mylin

> that surronds the nerves healthy..a severe long term b deficiency causes

> permanat nerve damage in the body..including the brain...b vitamins

> keeps neaves healthy and helps with the chemical exchange between nerons

> and synapses..which helps with mental fuctionallity...i hope you will at

> least try this treatment with your doctor 1-2 times a week for 4-6

> weeks...the doc needs to check the correct medical code numbers or most

> insurences will not pay..i called my insurence and asked them what codes

> for b-12 injections they will pay for,,and i take them with me to my

> docs and made sure the box was checked..*L*.persistance does pay

> off..*S*...let me know if anyone is intered it the problems with

> aspertane-diet subsitude- and joint pain..and natural relief of

> depression that works great for me but can be dangerous when taking mao

> inhibitor precription medication...excuse the long letter and hope to

> meet fellow suffers in the future..feel free to e-mail me..take care one

> day at a time..

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Hi Duane and everybody:

I'm new to the group. I've come in to the middle of a discussion on B12. A couple of years ago I started taking B12 injections once a week. (I had read something about it on the net). I have spinal problems from the cervical area down to the lumbar. I have had 2 discotomies, fusion with implant. With each surgery I was left with nerve damage into my hands. I found that the B12 helped the shaking I experienced in my hands.

Then the beginning of this year I started taking B12, 3cc, injectible every second day. Within 2 days I felt like a new human being. I wasn't tired or falling asleep wherever I sat myself down.

However a month or so ago, I started having problems with swelling in my foot. I have had this before when I first started taking narcotics, but it had settled down. Now my foot is so swollen I can not wear a shoe, and the skin is pulled so tight it is cracking. I know B12 can cause anti-diuretic effect, but I don't know if it is causing my problem. I stomached taking it for a few days and was dragging myself around. And I fall asleep whenever. Has anyone had any experience with B12.

Marsha

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Duane,

I have no idea what part of the world you live in, however your last

name really caught my eye since that is my maiden name.....perhaps we're

related somewhere down the line?

Debbie G.

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>

>

> Duane Helm wrote:

>

> > I lost a lot of info when my other computer crashed.. but will try

from

> >

> > memory(which is dangerous)lol...on the subject of vitamin b-12

> > treatment...the useage of the shot is not i.v...its

> > i.m...inter-muscular..you can give the shot in the same manner as a

> > diebetic does..thigh/buttocks or sub-cutaneous.(under the skin) i am

> > amazed with the number of people i use to talk to that have heard of

> > b-12 but never tried it..a friend of mine in calif. and i use ourselves

> > as human guinea pigs...we have being using b-12 for 5-6 years and have

> > had substantial relief from joint and muscle pain..along with better

> > cognitive skills and increased energy. i even used it on 2 friends that

> > dont have any cfs or fibro(checking for the placebo effect)...both on

> > 8-10 occasions...noticed marked increase in phyical energy and increased

> > mental alertness....i am totally convinced b-12 and b-complex reduce

> > pain and increase alertness..it also helps people who suffers bouts of

> > anemia...b-12 helps increase red bloods cell production..somehow EBV/cfs

> > affects numerous glands in the body that controls meletonin/seritonin

> > levels along with-blood sugar regulation..i.e..hypoglacemia...low

> > thyroid...i was so depleted of b-vitamins..i actually has symptoms of

> > beri-beri (numbness in fingers/toes/blurred vision/lethargic/confusion)

> > do to mal-absorbtion..which your body cant absorb vitamins from food

> > that you eat or supplements...what b-12 does is to help keep the mylin

> > that surronds the nerves healthy..a severe long term b deficiency causes

> > permanat nerve damage in the body..including the brain...b vitamins

> > keeps neaves healthy and helps with the chemical exchange between nerons

> > and synapses..which helps with mental fuctionallity...i hope you will at

> > least try this treatment with your doctor 1-2 times a week for 4-6

> > weeks...the doc needs to check the correct medical code numbers or most

> > insurences will not pay..i called my insurence and asked them what codes

> > for b-12 injections they will pay for,,and i take them with me to my

> > docs and made sure the box was checked..*L*.persistance does pay

> > off..*S*...let me know if anyone is intered it the problems with

> > aspertane-diet subsitude- and joint pain..and natural relief of

> > depression that works great for me but can be dangerous when taking mao

> > inhibitor precription medication...excuse the long letter and hope to

> > meet fellow suffers in the future..feel free to e-mail me..take care one

> > day at a time..

>

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hi poodle...b-complex contains b-1..b-2..b-3...b-5...b-6..and b-12....i

believe vitamin b-6 is a dieurtic...i;ve been using both for b-12 and complex

for 3 years..with very good results...i will look for a good web addy i

have saved...

poodle wrote:

Hi Duane and everybody:I'm

new to the group. I've come in to the middle of a discussion on B12. A

couple of years ago I started taking B12 injections once a week. (I had

read something about it on the net). I have spinal problems from the cervical

area down to the lumbar. I have had 2 discotomies, fusion with implant.

With each surgery I was left with nerve damage into my hands. I found that

the B12 helped the shaking I experienced in my hands.Then

the beginning of this year I started taking B12, 3cc, injectible every

second day. Within 2 days I felt like a new human being. I wasn't tired

or falling asleep wherever I sat myself down.However

a month or so ago, I started having problems with swelling in my foot.

I have had this before when I first started taking narcotics, but it had

settled down. Now my foot is so swollen I can not wear a shoe, and the

skin is pulled so tight it is cracking. I know B12 can cause anti-diuretic

effect, but I don't know if it is causing my problem. I stomached taking

it for a few days and was dragging myself around. And I fall asleep whenever.

Has anyone had any experience with B12.Marsha

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Marsha... I started B6/B12 a few weeks ago and I guess it is too early to

tell if I am finding any relief... I have noticed it helps the fibre fog for

a couple days... and the top of my thighs don't hurt... so tomorrow I get

another shot and I am aching everywhere and we will see what happens....

thanks for the info... aka Spark