Re: aspartame (Equal, NutraSweet) poisoning

[Guest guest]

Well, I don't like any artificial sweeteners, and never have. I may have

accidentally had a sip or two of a diet soft drink that I got by mistake, but

that's it. So I guess that theory doesn't work for me. I was all set to

blame the fluoride pills I was given to prevent tooth decay when I was young.

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In a message dated 03/31/1999 2:16:25 AM !!!First Boot!!!, adamsd@...

writes:

> what does the rest of the group think???

I don't think it's been around long enough to be responsible for the higher

incidence of rosacea. But I don't like it anyway -- never trusted it.

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[Guest guest]

wow. it does sorta make sense...rosacea IS on the rise...

sorta scary. especially the 'changes dna' part...

any other thoughts out there?

carolg8@... wrote:

> Hi.

>

> I especially wanted to post to this group My research report confirming

aspartame (Equal, NutraSweet a deadly toxin is at http://aspartamekills.com

>

> Recently, I realized that cea, too, is a symptom of aspartame poisoning.

Now, don't shoot the messenger. The blotches, the pimples, the vision loss and

other eye problems are signs of methanol poisoning, 10% of aspartame which

breaks down into formaldehyde, and formic acid. The formic acid is what attacks

the optic nerve. Latest studies on formaldehyde (Trocho, et al) show that it

collects in the cells and can change DNA.

>

> You don't have to believe me. Just take the 60-day no-aspartame test. A

library of information is at www.dorway.com.

>

> Heavy users of NutraSweet may be addicted, and so it's extra hard to believe

our own FDA has screwed us. The late Dr. Gross said, If the FDA violates

the law, who then is left to protect the health of the public?

>

> There are 92 symptoms of aspartame poisoning the FDA was forced to reveal in

1995 under the Freedom of Information Act. Rash was No 12 and Other Skin was 24

out of 10,000 complaints.

>

> Of all the groups of victims, I feel personally that you are the proof. There

were probably few cases of cea in 1980 before NutraSweet and now there are

13 million. Hello. And there is no other way to get cea unless you are the

face of a Toby mug or WC Field who drank a quart of booze a day for 30 years.

And the drinkers were protected because ethanol (drinking alcohol) is the

antidote for methanol poisoning. But then of course, the liver overloads.

>

> I'm not amused at the dermatologists and opthamologists who say, " Oh, we used

to think it was a disease only associated with heavy drinkers. Now, we know

teetotalers can get it too. " Double Duh. They didn't think--oh, let's see eye

problems together with cea--that's methanol poisoning. Let's see if we can

link it to an agent. What are you eating and drinking MR., Ms. Mrs.?

> Did they?

>

> I am unable to get the statistics for cea cases in 1980. ca Society

won't answer me. I guess I'll have to go to the Freedom of Information Act. Or

maybe the statistics are 100 rummy old sailors, 3 welders, 10 men of the cloth,

1000 unemployed actors, etc.

>

> Would like to hear from you. There is a support list at aspartameonelist

Lots of fibromyalgia, MS, headaches, diabetes and brain tumor victims, and now

cea is being reported since I brought up the subject. Some victims didn't

associated it with other aspartame ills. One victim reported the rash leaving

within a week. Another woman is on her 17th day of detox and her rash is still

there.

>

> Thank you.

> Carol

> Cyberspace Guerilla

>

> I do hope all the people on this list hoice words to say to their doctors.

>

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[Guest guest]

this is interesting....i used to drink nutrasweet products all the time

weight loss etc) i only stopped when i started to learn about my triggers.

i did not look at the sites that are identified in this email but i will

later, what does the rest of the group think??? susan

aspartame (Equal, NutraSweet) poisoning

>Hi.

>

>I especially wanted to post to this group My research report confirming

aspartame (Equal, NutraSweet a deadly toxin is at http://aspartamekills.com

>

>Recently, I realized that cea, too, is a symptom of aspartame

poisoning. Now, don't shoot the messenger. The blotches, the pimples, the

vision loss and other eye problems are signs of methanol poisoning, 10% of

aspartame which breaks down into formaldehyde, and formic acid. The formic

acid is what attacks the optic nerve. Latest studies on formaldehyde

(Trocho, et al) show that it collects in the cells and can change DNA.

>

>You don't have to believe me. Just take the 60-day no-aspartame test. A

library of information is at www.dorway.com.

>

>Heavy users of NutraSweet may be addicted, and so it's extra hard to

believe our own FDA has screwed us. The late Dr. Gross said, If the

FDA violates the law, who then is left to protect the health of the public?

>

>There are 92 symptoms of aspartame poisoning the FDA was forced to reveal

in 1995 under the Freedom of Information Act. Rash was No 12 and Other Skin

was 24 out of 10,000 complaints.

>

>Of all the groups of victims, I feel personally that you are the proof.

There were probably few cases of cea in 1980 before NutraSweet and now

there are 13 million. Hello. And there is no other way to get cea

unless you are the face of a Toby mug or WC Field who drank a quart of booze

a day for 30 years. And the drinkers were protected because ethanol

(drinking alcohol) is the antidote for methanol poisoning. But then of

course, the liver overloads.

>

>I'm not amused at the dermatologists and opthamologists who say, " Oh, we

used to think it was a disease only associated with heavy drinkers. Now, we

know teetotalers can get it too. " Double Duh. They didn't think--oh, let's

see eye problems together with cea--that's methanol poisoning. Let's

see if we can link it to an agent. What are you eating and drinking MR., Ms.

Mrs.?

>Did they?

>

>I am unable to get the statistics for cea cases in 1980. ca

Society won't answer me. I guess I'll have to go to the Freedom of

Information Act. Or maybe the statistics are 100 rummy old sailors, 3

welders, 10 men of the cloth, 1000 unemployed actors, etc.

>

>Would like to hear from you. There is a support list at

aspartameonelist Lots of fibromyalgia, MS, headaches, diabetes and

brain tumor victims, and now cea is being reported since I brought up

the subject. Some victims didn't associated it with other aspartame ills.

One victim reported the rash leaving within a week. Another woman is on her

17th day of detox and her rash is still there.

>

>Thank you.

>Carol

>Cyberspace Guerilla

>

>I do hope all the people on this list hoice words to say to their doctors.

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I don't know about rashes and such, but hello! methanol causes blindness, not

blepheritis.

aspertame might be related to something, but i doubt its dry eye and rosacea. I

think my rosacea has improved since i stopped drinking regular coke (lots of

corn syrup) and started drinking decaf diet coke. Now, this isn't to say that

asperame is good for you...it probably isn't and I know that way back some

studies were done (i don't know how reliable) on brain cancer and aspertame. I

don't know whether they found a statistically significant (or causal)

relationship.

I guess I have my own ax to grind, and I think rosacea is more related to the

prevalence of irritants such as alcohol and hydroxy acids in cosmetics (Clinique

toners have or had, formaldehyde in them. That I know for a fact bc waaay back I

did research on whether it would be appropriate to enact legislation governing

cosmetics in the same way that the FDA " oversees " drugs. In any case, in that

capacity, I spoke with a few cosmetic chemists, most of whom (amuzsingly enough)

didn't put anything on their face, because they thought the stuff in cosmetics

was so awful. One popular cream (won't name names, though truth IS an absolute

defense to defamation) actually " caused " small wrinkles to dissapear before your

eyes by slightly irritating the skin. This caused the skin to puff up just ever

so slightly.And, Presto! the fine lines were gone!)My understanding is that the

cream has been substantially reformulated since then, and no longer contains the

irriants.

-Alwex

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[Guest guest]

Alwex said in a previous post------

<<<<<<<< I think rosacea is more related to the prevalence of irritants such

as alcohol and hydroxy acids in cosmetics (Clinique toners have or had,

formaldehyde in them. That I know for a fact bc waaay back I did research on

whether it would be appropriate to enact legislation governing cosmetics in

the same way that the FDA " oversees " drugs. In any case, in that capacity, I

spoke with a few cosmetic chemists, most of whom (amuzsingly enough) didn't

put anything on their face, because they thought the stuff in cosmetics was

so awful. >>>>>>>>>>

Alwex,

I've been wondering lately myself if there isn't a connection between

cosmetics and cea (as a contributing factor, not, of course, the sole

cause). Because the cea is only where I use foundation and creams. For

instance, right now my forehead is terrible, particularly over my eyebrow.

But, thank goodness, it stops at my eyebrow, and below the brow is clear. I

never put creams or foundation below my brow, only powdered eyeshadow.

Don't know if I'd have the nerve to go without makeup, but it'd be

worth it if it meant improvement!

Wanda

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[Guest guest]

Hi Wanda!

Im not a doctor, so I don't know. But, I got rosacea only after being prescribed

an acne medication containing alcohol and other things. I have no history of

rosacea in my family, no previous predisposition to blushing, no nothing, until

I used this stuff and WHAMMO!

Anyways, it would be interesting to look at whether the prevalence of rosacea

among men/women has changed over time. Not that it would establish a direct

causal factor (or even a factor pointing to an excacerbation of an underlying

predispositon) but it would still be interesting.

Maybe try stopping using the costmetics for a while. Just buck up and see what

happens. Though I would imagine it takes a while to see results so you would

have to go cosmetic free for a while. I have stopped wearing all makeup

(basically because I can't tolerate anything on my face now) except a little bit

under my eyes so that skin doesn't look so white compared to the rest of my

face. And, i think my skin is happier. Tho I use noritate, etc. etc. so I don't

know if there is a causal relationship. I (inspite of its " dangers " ) would LOVE

to wear makeup again. I feel so exposed without it!!

_ (short for andra. I mispelled my name before (duh--i guess I get the

dunce award:-)) bc I was typing so fast).

I hope you get better!!

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[Guest guest]

i have the same concern as the rosacea is where i put my foundation and

cream. But then again they say that rosacea is primarily on the cheeks and

forehead and chin and nose,i found an article i picked up in london, england

8 years ago, i was visiting family and thought that the red patch i had on

my jaw line could have been rosacea ( of course my doctor dismissed my

diagnosis and then 6 years later says oh yah, you have rosacea. Anyway, the

article mentioned the same areas of the face and mentioned like lupus it can

have a similar pattern on either side of the nose. I find if i have a spot

show up on one side in the next day i have one on the same other side.

susan

Re: aspartame (Equal, NutraSweet) poisoning

> Alwex said in a previous post------

><<<<<<<< I think rosacea is more related to the prevalence of irritants

such

>as alcohol and hydroxy acids in cosmetics (Clinique toners have or had,

>formaldehyde in them. That I know for a fact bc waaay back I did research

on

>whether it would be appropriate to enact legislation governing cosmetics in

>the same way that the FDA " oversees " drugs. In any case, in that capacity,

I

>spoke with a few cosmetic chemists, most of whom (amuzsingly enough) didn't

>put anything on their face, because they thought the stuff in cosmetics was

>so awful. >>>>>>>>>>

>

> Alwex,

> I've been wondering lately myself if there isn't a connection between

>cosmetics and cea (as a contributing factor, not, of course, the sole

>cause). Because the cea is only where I use foundation and creams.

For

>instance, right now my forehead is terrible, particularly over my eyebrow.

>But, thank goodness, it stops at my eyebrow, and below the brow is clear.

I

>never put creams or foundation below my brow, only powdered eyeshadow.

> Don't know if I'd have the nerve to go without makeup, but it'd be

>worth it if it meant improvement!

> Wanda

>

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