Re: Triggering subject: abuse

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Hi ,

I have read this too about a tramatic life event or an accident can trigger disorders like FIbro, Systemic Lupus I beilve even certian arthrits. Personally I belive that the medical community likes to thro this out when they have no clue as to what if any is a particular cause for something occuring. It might be our bodies defense mechanisms go into over dirve to deal with the event ect... I personally was not molested or harmed as a child sexually or by then standards of physical abuse.. by todays yes but a spanking did not mis shape me or make me emotionally vulnarbale to any mis giving. I how ever have been raped twice, attacked numerious times, lived with one who was a physical abuse, the next an emotionally abuser who died of alcholism (he cheated repeatedly during the marriage) and much more but I survived. And you did too and remember you cant belive everything you read. You must decide for yourself what you choose to belive and what you decide to question. Dont let it uspet you I dont think the author was saying that everyone who has Fibro was or has been, of course there is always the post tramica stress syndrome but I have never seent that associated wiht FIbRO...

Dont let it upset you please I hope you sought counsleing for the abuse you encountered. If now it is never to late to talk to someone about it. Jackie

Reply-To: Fibromyalgia_Support_Group To: Fibromyalgia_Support_Group Subject: Triggering subject: abuseDate: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:51:30 -0000***Comment from Co-Owner: Edited to reflect appropriate subject heading***I have had fibr for 6 years. I all ways read the e-mails that i receive. every so often i get on and ask a question. well i have one for now. i read in one of the many books that is out there for fibro. i read something disturbing it said that fibro could be a stem from abuse, mental,sexuall,or physical. i know it is hard to accept or admitt but is there any one that has gone through this with fibro. I was all three. one of my doctors said that it could stem from a trouma that happened in your life like an accedient,a fall a death but i never thought of abuse.i hope i didn't hit a nerve. please writedenise 1. While it is wonderful to share our experiences with everyone on the list as to what treatments do and don't work for us, pls always check with your dr. Some treatments are dangerous when given along with other meds as well as to certain health conditions or just dangerous in general.2. If you are in a difficult situation (doesn't matter what it is) pls don't be afraid to ask for help. It is the first step to trying to make that situation better.3. To unsubscribe the e-mail is: Fibromyalgia_Support_Group-unsubscribe 4. Also, it is not uncommon for more than one member to be feeling bad at the same time when it comes to flares and b/c of that potentially take something another member says the wrong way. And that includes the things that one member may find funny (even if it's laughing at fibro itself) even though we who deal with illness whether one such as fibro or multiple illnesses try to keep a sense of humor.5. Pls let's be gentle with each other, and if you are having a bad day pls let us know so that we can do our best to offer our support.Have a nice day everyone.

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Yes it can. Abuse is also considered trauma from what I have been told because of the mental damage it does to you. Fibro can also be inherited as well. Right now we believe the my 8 year old has the begining stages of fibro. neese58 wrote: ***Comment from Co-Owner: Edited to reflect appropriate subject heading***I have had fibr for 6 years. I all ways read the e-mails that i receive. every so often i get on and ask a question. well i have one for now. i read in one of the many books that is out there for fibro. i read something disturbing it said that fibro could be a stem from abuse, mental,sexuall,or physical. i know it is hard to accept or admitt but is there any one that has gone through this with fibro. I was all three. one of my doctors said that

it could stem from a trouma that happened in your life like an accedient,a fall a death but i never thought of abuse.i hope i didn't hit a nerve. please writedenise

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, I read that also. Now I believe my mother had Fibro, but it came out more after her heart attacks then heart surgery all before she was 32 years old. I can remember her in such pain as the weather changed. She often said she felt crazy due to the Doctors laughing at her complaints. Now I was in an abusive relationship, grand ex hubby, but they believe my Fibro was effecting me even in my teen years after I had bouts of Rheumatic Fever. I was never the same after being so ill. My daughter and son have not been abused, not in any accidents but they have other factors. My daughter has Endometriosis (sp) and cyst on her ovaries, she might not be able to have children. When her pains started at 12, I took her to Duke University Hospital in North Carolina, they told me she had growing pains. My little boy is 11 and told at 10 he had Fibro. The doctor had no clue that I or his sister has it. This floored me but Damian has a lot against him, Pervasive Developmental Delays (One of the 6 spectrums of Autism. He has tons of allergies, eye trouble, head aches, GERD, IBS, asthma, Migraines, and pain. He still goes to school, I got him in a weight management program, and he plays basketball. Ebstien virus, mono, the kissing disease as we used to call it links us three. And yes my mother had it as a teen as well. We all get sick easy, strep, ear infections and so on. I think there is a link in the autoimmune diseases. Least toward us perhaps. Thanks a buch for allowing my to spill my guts. Christie Steubenville Ohio USA -- abuse ***Comment from Co-Owner: Edited to reflect appropriate subject heading*** I have had fibr for 6 years. I all ways read the e-mails that i receive. every so often i get on and ask a question. well i have one for now. i read in one of the many books that is out there for fibro. i read something disturbing it said that fibro could be a stem from abuse, mental,sexuall,or physical. i know it is hard to accept or admitt but is there any one that has gone through this with fibro. I was all three. one of my doctors said that it could stem from a trouma that happened in your life like an accedient,a fall a death but i never thought of abuse. i hope i didn't hit a nerve. please write denise

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No sexual, mental, or physical abuse here. For some people, I'm sure it might be true that abuse may have been a CONTRIBUTING factor to their illness, but I get very angry when "experts" suggest that all fibro stems from abuse. I got the flu 10 years ago (both my husband and I got it, and he has had health problems, some brain fog and mild fatigue issues, altough no pain and not the crippling fatigue I have, but still not at all the way he was before the flu) so that was the impetus. I just got sick and never recovered - no trauma, no abuse; just typical (well, I guess not) late winter flu that screwed something up in my brain.neese58 wrote: ***Comment from Co-Owner: Edited to

reflect appropriate subject heading***I have had fibr for 6 years. I all ways read the e-mails that i receive. every so often i get on and ask a question. well i have one for now. i read in one of the many books that is out there for fibro. i read something disturbing it said that fibro could be a stem from abuse, mental,sexuall,or physical. i know it is hard to accept or admitt but is there any one that has gone through this with fibro. I was all three. one of my doctors said that it could stem from a trouma that happened in your life like an accedient,a fall a death but i never thought of abuse.i hope i didn't hit a nerve. please writedenise

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, I have never been abused, but I had someone in my family die every year from the time I was about 6. I have lost a brother, my real dad, and my step dad, both grandpas, and alot of aunts, uncles cousins, and close family friends. I belive this, along with my epilepsy are reasons I have the sleep disorder part. I have had some odd pain since I was 3 or 4. I have never been able to sit with my legs under me, and have never been able to lay on a hard surface like the floor comfortably. Both have always given me great discomfort. I have always been active, and participated in sports. I think the few injuries I have had may have made things worse as far as not being able to do different things. I think there are alot of factors that play thier part in what causes Fibro. I also think if they ever find out what, and why Fibro is there will be different sub groups, and better treatments for those subgroups. There are alot of people I can relate

to their story, and then there are some that are completely different. The one thing I can always have a good understanding of, not just with Fibromites, but with anyone who has alot of it, is pain. Maybe self examining yourself may lead to a better treatment for you and your Fibro. Take care,neese58 wrote: ***Comment from Co-Owner: Edited to reflect appropriate subject heading*** I have had fibr for 6 years. I all ways read the e-mails that i receive. every so often i get on and ask a question. well i have one for now. i read in one of the many books that is out there for fibro. i read something disturbing it said that fibro could be a stem from abuse, mental,sexuall,or physical. i know it is hard to accept or admitt but is there any

one that has gone through this with fibro. I was all three. one of my doctors said that it could stem from a trouma that happened in your life like an accedient,a fall a death but i never thought of abuse. i hope i didn't hit a nerve. please write denise

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Unfortunately I have suffered all three (not happy memories) neese58 wrote: ***Comment from Co-Owner: Edited to reflect appropriate subject heading***I have had fibr for 6 years. I all ways read the e-mails that i receive. every so often i get on and ask a question. well i have one for now. i read in one of the many books that is out there for fibro. i read something disturbing it said that fibro could be a stem from abuse, mental,sexuall,or physical. i know it is hard to accept or admitt but is there any one that has gone through this with fibro. I was all three. one of my doctors said that it could stem from a trouma that

happened in your life like an accedient,a fall a death but i never thought of abuse.i hope i didn't hit a nerve. please writedenise

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One thing that everyone I know personally who has this illness, is the autoimmune component, which also ties in with the nervous system. The adrenal glands that sit on top of the kidneys are part of the immune system. They pump hormones, including cortisol, a big stress hormone into they body. What for one person is stressful, may not be for another. For a body in a weakened state, regardless of the reason, getting the flu may be a major insult. I had lots of symptoms from early childhood. For others, its repeated injuries, or one big injury, or surgery, or, yes...abuse. I agree that seeking counseling is a good idea if this happened to you. I do...and it makes a huge difference to me. Just know that you don't have to take the first counselor/therapist you meet with. Its a little like buying shoes, you have to find the right fit. Much healing to your journey. River Graceneese58 wrote: ***Comment from Co-Owner: Edited to reflect appropriate subject heading***I have had fibr for 6 years. I all ways read the e-mails that i receive. every so often i get on and ask a question. well i have one for now. i read in one of the many books that is out there for fibro. i read something disturbing it said that fibro could be a stem from abuse, mental,sexuall,or physical. i know it is hard to accept or admitt but is there any one that has gone through this with fibro. I was all three. one of my doctors said that it could stem from a trouma that happened in your life like an accedient,a fall a death but i never thought of abuse.i hope i didn't hit a nerve. please writedenise

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Quoting neese58 :

> i read in one of the many books that is out there for fibro.

> i read something disturbing it said that fibro could be a stem from

> abuse, mental,sexuall,or physical.

My neurologist said this is actually a theory regarding a possible cause of

fibromyalgia! She went over my childhood history without prodding, you know,

just enough to say, " You know, I don't think I've ever had a fibromyalgia

patient who gushed about her rosy childhood. "

She then said that it's possible that the constant state of stress & anxiety

that an abused or neglected child is under, for prolonged periods, could be

responsible for fibromyalgia. It's like our fear & our tense little children's

bodies teach our brains to be hyperresponsive, & that's why we're stiff & in

pain all the time.

It's an interesting theory, no?

--kj

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I had a pretty sweet childhood...went fishing with my dad, did baking with my mom (who was stay-at-home until I started 1st grade), and had a big sister who gladly took me everywhere she went. So while this may be true for some, I hope your neurologist realizes that it's not true for everyone, although it may be true for a subset group. KJ Adan wrote: Quoting neese58 :> i read in one of the many books that is out there for fibro.> i read something disturbing it said that fibro could be a stem from> abuse, mental,sexuall,or physical.My neurologist said this is actually a theory regarding a possible cause offibromyalgia! She went over my childhood history without prodding, you know,just enough to say, "You know,

I don't think I've ever had a fibromyalgiapatient who gushed about her rosy childhood."She then said that it's possible that the constant state of stress & anxietythat an abused or neglected child is under, for prolonged periods, could beresponsible for fibromyalgia. It's like our fear & our tense little children'sbodies teach our brains to be hyperresponsive, & that's why we're stiff & inpain all the time.It's an interesting theory, no?--kj*http://www.youravon.com/kadan"Like German tourists, the stupid are everywhere." -A.J. Rimmer

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Hi Kelli,

Quoting Kelli Bragg :

> So while this may be true for some,

> I hope your neurologist realizes that it's not true for everyone, although it

> may be true for a subset group.

Me too, because I have met plenty of people whose fibromyalgia seems to have a

cause in some physical sort of trauma, like a car accident or infection. So I

think it's safer to say that fibromyalgia appears to be triggered by some sort

of trauma, physical or otherwise. And for some of us, both.

Which of course is gloriously vague, & therefore, more accurate for everyone. :

) I'll ask her about this when I go in for my follow-up.

--kj

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I have just about the entire alphabet of syndromes plus a few more. I believe

that trauma / abuse along with PTSD is part of the syndromes along with

heredity. My mother has it & so does my half sister (from my father's side) This

is just from my point of view. Not intended to offend anyone.

I was abused severely from the age of 3 until 13 ( verbal

emotional,physical, & sexual) @ which time my abuser shot me before shooting

himself. He said to me , this is your fault you f# & k* & g c%#t. This is where

my PTSD comes from. my mother was also abused by her father & along by my

father.

Blessed Be,

Ms.Katurah

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