Guest guest Posted October 23, 2001 Report Share Posted October 23, 2001 Thanks for the info Diane, thalidomide it is. Sorry to have ranted, just been a very frustrating day. I will try not to do it again and go back to being helpful. Margaret >>> " Diane " 10/23/01 10:06PM >>> This person has IgA myeloma. This DRUG is to avoid any bone marrow supression. Diane " It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness. " Chinese Proverb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to nmtc-unsubscribe PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Aliceanne, I believe your doctor is using is because it is right next to severe, rather than realizing it goes with contractures. You are correct to question her, as that would be there are severe digital contractures... Margaret >>> Alice A Sawyer 10/24/01 08:35PM >>> Should the following be is or are? Doctor dictates is but spell check tells me it is are. I figure she is looking at the one foot as a whole so she dictates is?? I can't wait to hit the pillow::: there is severe digital contractures with distal lesions noted. There is also a severe HAV deformity, B/L. Aliceanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 " Contractures " is the subject so it is definitely " are " (Contractures are there. There are contractures.) The other one is " is " (There is a deformity.), but you probably already knew that one. ) ----Original Message Follows---- To: nmtc Subject: (unknown) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:35:04 -0400 Should the following be is or are? Doctor dictates is but spell check tells me it is are. I figure she is looking at the one foot as a whole so she dictates is?? I can't wait to hit the pillow::: there is severe digital contractures with distal lesions noted. There is also a severe HAV deformity, B/L. Aliceanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Thank you all. I couldn't help but wonder if maybe she is considering the contractures a syndrome or symptom or group but I think you guys are all right so it will become " are " . My reports light up like a Christmas tree with green lines as she does everything in fragmented sentences. It drove me crazy in the beginning. Now I tend to just scan the green lines and only respond to the red's. Thank God there are few of those. Aliceanne On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:57:22 -0400 " Margaret Grant " writes: > Aliceanne, I believe your doctor is using is because it is right next > to severe, rather than realizing it goes with contractures. You are > correct to question her, as that would be there are severe digital > contractures... Margaret > > >>> Alice A Sawyer 10/24/01 08:35PM >>> > Should the following be is or are? Doctor dictates is but spell > check > tells me it is are. I figure she is looking at the one foot as a > whole so > she dictates is?? > I can't wait to hit the pillow::: > there is severe digital contractures with distal lesions noted. > There is > also a severe HAV deformity, B/L. > > Aliceanne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 It would be " ...are severe digital contractures. " Sleep well! (unknown) Should the following be is or are? Doctor dictates is but spell check tells me it is are. I figure she is looking at the one foot as a whole so she dictates is?? I can't wait to hit the pillow::: there is severe digital contractures with distal lesions noted. There is also a severe HAV deformity, B/L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2001 Report Share Posted November 12, 2001 That would be meniscus. You will also hear meniscal tear too from time to time. I type it about every day. Hope this helps. (unknown) > Does anyone know what a Menicus tear is? I can't find it, but I am > pretty sure I am spelling it wrong too. > > > > TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to nmtc-unsubscribe > > PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 Drop a line to at : washcoems@... BK brandon turnbow wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Can someone tell me how to become involved in a State EMT or Paramedic > association? Seems to be one of the harder things to find out about. > > I appreciate it > > Turnbow > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 At 12:51 PM 2/20/2003, you wrote: >I had an MRI on my knee on Saturday and I meet with the orthopedic >surgeon on Monday. I hope something can be done because I'm in a lot >of pain. I had an echocardiogram Monday and should get those results >tomorrow. (The tech was very busy taking still shot and marking up >the screen, but she wouldn't provide any info about what she was >seeing.) I'm supposed to be back in Carolina now, working on the >other house, but I just have to wait for info from the doctors. > >Susie Susie, I so sorry to hear about your knee. I hope the docs can do something to correct the problem and give you relief from the pain. Life has a way of slowing us down sometimes. Hope all goes well with the cardiology results. I'm backed up in my e-mail, so I'm not sure if you've given an update or not. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 SNAYU? Situation Normal, All Yahooed Up! - - - - - Lokrin (TechAss) Technical Assailant http://lokrin.net - - - - Re: (unknown) In a message dated 10/4/2003 10:15:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bawilson@... writes: > Blank message? I received all these messages. Yahoo is having problems tonight. Eunice --- Outgoing male is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.521 / Virus Database: 319 - Release Date: 03/09/23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 In a message dated 11/16/2003 4:10:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, kw15185@... writes: > Any suggestions? > Hi Kenny, I can't answer your question because my fasting bg's (blood glucose) are always normal, but I do know we have members that have high readings. Has your doctor made any suggestions? Eunice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Yes, Yes, Yes LMAO! Totally normal too but it sucks, and ya have no energy to try something new. People wonder why we can be so bit##y lol! Matter of fact my boys sometimes go to my friends daycare to socialize or as I say it (take a load off me) anyways, one of the kids was in the corner playing with the dollhouse he is 3, He started say (oh yeh, oh yeh, yes, yes!) I said to my friend " well his parents must not have known he was awake " and she replied " how embarassing, what would you do " I said " Well that's where my boys learned how to say " no " . Just thought I would cheer you up! Hang in there! DEB --- c turner wrote: > Hi all! > It's with yet another question for you > all.... Do any of you whom are taking antidep. meds > to help with your chronic pain deal with lack of > libedo as women????? I am 30 years old and since > taking these meds have a severe decreased interest > which sucks! Let me know your thoughts if you > would. Hope you all are doing well!!!!! > > > --------------------------------- > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ > countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Thanks Deb! Glad to know that I am not alonesupermommy76 wrote: Yes, Yes, Yes LMAO! Totally normal too but it sucks,and ya have no energy to try something new. Peoplewonder why we can be so bit##y lol! Matter of fact myboys sometimes go to my friends daycare to socializeor as I say it (take a load off me) anyways, one ofthe kids was in the corner playing with the dollhousehe is 3, He started say (oh yeh, oh yeh, yes, yes!) Isaid to my friend "well his parents must not haveknown he was awake" and she replied "how embarassing,what would you do" I said "Well that's where my boyslearned how to say "no". Just thought I would cheer you up! Hang in there!DEB--- c turner wrote:> Hi all!> It's with yet another question for you> all.... Do any of you whom are taking antidep. meds> to help with your chronic pain deal with lack of> libedo as women????? I am 30 years old and since> taking these meds have a severe decreased interest> which sucks! Let me know your thoughts if you> would. Hope you all are doing well!!!!!> > > ---------------------------------> Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+> countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger withVoice.__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Â I make my own (purchased my own generator) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Pam,  Thanks for your prayers. Mine are with you & your husband as well. Yeah, when I first found this group - I was very interested in learning about alternative things and assumed it was an open forum for people to openly discuss MS, their experiences and try to gather as much insight & info as possible.. But now it just seems silly to have to censor my questions about this disease I have to avoid controversy with an online group.  That's awesome that Avonex is working for you. I'm still researching the best method for myself. My older brother is a physician and he's currently looking into LDN for me. When I first metioned it to him, he was very apprehensive to even consider it for me -- but I will rely on his findings when he's finished researching it. Otherwise, based on all history & data they have for interferons -- That may be the best road for me too   I appreciate your candid response.  Best wishes to you,  From: pam wanko <> Subject: (unknown) To: mscured Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 8:35 PM Kriston, I am also new to MS. I was ready to embrace MS and this was the first group I looked into. This group isn't for me, as you can see from the response you got from your question.I am dealing with my MS and my husbands pancreatic cancer, to much stress in this group. I have been on Avonex for 1 1/2 and I started with 33 on my brain. After one year big improvement, I scene both the MRI's myself. My thoughts and prayers are with you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Haha, sorry to say this...but there is no money to be made in finding a cure for MS or for anything else. Sad and unfortunate for us...but true. ----- Re: (unknown) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:18:15 -0700 (PDT) y....I'm on shots for the rest of my life...I know that they fine a cure and make all of us all well who ever has MS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 To whoever u are (no name left - we can tell why) Did you mean to put the Haha as a 'laugh'? If so, that is one of the most horrible things I think I've ever read. I'm not sure u can include yourself as one of 'us' by the way it came across. There will be an answer, even if it's by alternative measures and not in the hands of people with zillions of letters after their names! What I believe to be 'sad and unfortunate' is that you would ever think that sending an email like that would be OK. Please remember that there are many newly diagnosed people on here who are probably terrified and feeling very unsure - therefore your email wasn't terribly helpful...to ANY of us. Please think-before-you-type next time. I hope u get some good details which may hlp you in your struggles with the disease (IF you have MS) Stay cool! To: mscured From: tazeeyore@... Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:59:12 +0000 Subject: Re: (unknown) Haha, sorry to say this...but there is no money to be made in finding a cure for MS or for anything else. Sad and unfortunate for us...but true. ----- Re: (unknown) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:18:15 -0700 (PDT) y....I'm on shots for the rest of my life...I know that they fine a cure and make all of us all well who ever has MS... _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a new car this winter? Let us help with car news, reviews and more http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom\ %2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F8596\ 41 & _t=762955845 & _r=tig_OCT07 & _m=EXT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 > What I believe to be 'sad and unfortunate' is that you would ever think that sending an email like that would be OK. > > Please remember that there are many newly diagnosed people on here who are probably terrified and feeling very unsure - therefore your email wasn't terribly helpful...to ANY of us. Hi , See how funny email is? And how everyone reacts differently? I read that post, and it didn't bother me in the least. I think it's generally accepted among those of us who live & breathe alternative medicine, that a " cure " is really laughable...whether we're talking about cancer, MS, MD, etc. Those of us who see the differences in people's lives thanks to easy (AND INEXPENSIVE) things like diet restrictions and supplements, and detoxification, shake our heads at the amount of money being thrown into R & D for supposed cures. Note that mainstream's version of a cure includes a pill or IV therapy that will undoubtedly have major side effects and likely cause other health problems, ensuring repeat business from their customer base. I also think it's time to bounce around the idea about what a " cure " means again. Is it only a cure if we can continue the same lifestyle of crappy food and minimal exercise, never cleaning our bodies from the toxins we are bombarded with daily? I think that's unrealistic. As long as I remain in one of those unexplainable " spontaneous remissions " that makes a neurologist scratch his/her head, I'm satisfied with my cure. Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 > > > > > What I believe to be 'sad and unfortunate' is that you would ever think > that sending an email like that would be OK. > > > > Please remember that there are many newly diagnosed people on here who > are probably terrified and feeling very unsure - therefore your email wasn't > terribly helpful...to ANY of us. > > Hi , > > See how funny email is? And how everyone reacts differently? I read that > post, and it didn't bother me in the least. I think it's generally accepted > among those of us who live & breathe alternative medicine, that a " cure " is > really laughable...whether we're talking about cancer, MS, MD, etc. Those of > us who see the differences in people's lives thanks to easy (AND > INEXPENSIVE) things like diet restrictions and supplements, and > detoxification, shake our heads at the amount of money being thrown into R & D > for supposed cures. Note that mainstream's version of a cure includes a pill > or IV therapy that will undoubtedly have major side effects and likely cause > other health problems, ensuring repeat business from their customer base. > > I also think it's time to bounce around the idea about what a " cure " means > again. Is it only a cure if we can continue the same lifestyle of crappy > food and minimal exercise, never cleaning our bodies from the toxins we are > bombarded with daily? I think that's unrealistic. As long as I remain in one > of those unexplainable " spontaneous remissions " that makes a neurologist > scratch his/her head, I'm satisfied with my cure. > > Crystal > > > -- Yvette Freelance Writer Atlantean Productions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 This is and maybe I should have put it differently. There is no cure to be had when it comes to western medicine. I believe in cures with alternative medicine, but to believe that our government or the MS foundation, or anyone else is going to find a cure for us is rediculas. As I stated, there is no money to be made in finding a cure for MS. The only money to be made is to make an IV or pill we have to take for the rest of our lives. That is what I meant by it is sad but true. However I absolutely believe that a cure is possible with alternative medicine. I think a cure is possible for any and all diseases with alternative medicine...but certainly not with western (conventional) medicine. For instance, think about all the people who donate tons of money into cancer research...do you think they are going to find a cure for cancer!? It would be a conflict of interest if they did. They would all be out of a job if they did that, as well as doctors, pharmasutical companies, and even all the people at the cancer research center....would all be out of a job. That can never happen so they can never find a cure...and that goes for MS and every other disease. Cures lie within alternative medicine and that is it. But I believe this person " y....I'm on shots for the rest of my life...I know that they fine a cure and make all of us all well who ever has MS... " was talking about western medince, not alternative medicine. If she believe " they " whoever " they " are, are going to find a cure for us and is going to heal all people with MS. It's just not going to happen. Again...alternatively...yes...if we find it on our own. But I don't believe there will be anybody to help us find even an alternative way because again...then so many people would be out of business...and that can not be allowed, not just with cancer, but with all the major diseases and illnesses. I'm sorry, but that is just how I feel about it. I do believe there are cures out there. I did stem cell therapy, and I believe that can be a cure, as well as fasting, and everything everyone else is doing here that no longer has any MS symptoms. As far as I'm concerned there are several people on this MScured group that has " cured " themselves. I should have been more clear and written that nicer and I'm sorry...but the way it was written just made me laugh to think anyone could possible believe that convential medicine is out to find a cure for us. Oh, and by the way, I am newly diagnosed...2 months yesterday to be exact, and I've already done stem cell therapy and this Sunday I start a fast. If I didn't believe in cures I wouldn't have spent the money I did for stem cell therapy and I wouldn't be doing a 30 day fast. ----- Re: (unknown) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:18:15 -0700 (PDT) y....I'm on shots for the rest of my life...I know that they fine a cure and make all of us all well who ever has MS... __________________________________________________________ Looking for a new car this winter? Let us help with car news, reviews and more http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom\ %2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F8596\ 41 & _t=762955845 & _r=tig_OCT07 & _m=EXT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Thank you Crystal, you really understood what I meant. I didn't mean that a cure wasn't possible, I meant that, to me, it isn't possible with alternative medicine. As you stated, to mean, it really is laughable at the money being spent to find supposed cures. They aren't finding cures, they are finding ways to keep us drugged up to make more money. Again, I could have made it more clear...and I certainly didn't mean it to come out rude or mean, but I guess it did and I'm sorry for that. But at least some understood why I was laughing at it. ----- Re: (unknown) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:23:58 -0000 > What I believe to be 'sad and unfortunate' is that you would ever think that sending an email like that would be OK. > > Please remember that there are many newly diagnosed people on here who are probably terrified and feeling very unsure - therefore your email wasn't terribly helpful...to ANY of us. Hi , See how funny email is? And how everyone reacts differently? I read that post, and it didn't bother me in the least. I think it's generally accepted among those of us who live & breathe alternative medicine, that a " cure " is really laughable...whether we're talking about cancer, MS, MD, etc. Those of us who see the differences in people's lives thanks to easy (AND INEXPENSIVE) things like diet restrictions and supplements, and detoxification, shake our heads at the amount of money being thrown into R & D for supposed cures. Note that mainstream's version of a cure includes a pill or IV therapy that will undoubtedly have major side effects and likely cause other health problems, ensuring repeat business from their customer base. I also think it's time to bounce around the idea about what a " cure " means again. Is it only a cure if we can continue the same lifestyle of crappy food and minimal exercise, never cleaning our bodies from the toxins we are bombarded with daily? I think that's unrealistic. As long as I remain in one of those unexplainable " spontaneous remissions " that makes a neurologist scratch his/her head, I'm satisfied with my cure. Crystal ____________________________________________________________ Turn any room into a work of art. Click now for beautiful oriental rugs! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsE72938ZVeHa0Ygd9QSML1XbitOZOJ\ YUHKSCO2SX0HczuD59tDhPC/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 The way I see it is this. A cure doesn't have to be an overnight success where we go back to (what we consider) " normal " . All improvements are a cure that happens in slow motion. The body heals itself when given the right tools. It takes time to get the job done. Sometimes things work to relieve symptoms and then they stop and it's time to get a new tool. We are on a revolving plane. You either go with the flow and accept MS for what it is and live a full life in site of it or you just lie down and give up. I prefer to live well. There are no magic remedies that fit all people. You have to try all things and sometimes you find something that makes you feel good. Keep searching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Sorry about that, I meant insn't possible with conventional medicine. ----- Re: (unknown) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:23:58 -0000 > What I believe to be 'sad and unfortunate' is that you would ever think that sending an email like that would be OK. > > Please remember that there are many newly diagnosed people on here who are probably terrified and feeling very unsure - therefore your email wasn't terribly helpful...to ANY of us. Hi , See how funny email is? And how everyone reacts differently? I read that post, and it didn't bother me in the least. I think it's generally accepted among those of us who live & breathe alternative medicine, that a " cure " is really laughable...whether we're talking about cancer, MS, MD, etc. Those of us who see the differences in people's lives thanks to easy (AND INEXPENSIVE) things like diet restrictions and supplements, and detoxification, shake our heads at the amount of money being thrown into R & D for supposed cures. Note that mainstream's version of a cure includes a pill or IV therapy that will undoubtedly have major side effects and likely cause other health problems, ensuring repeat business from their customer base. I also think it's time to bounce around the idea about what a " cure " means again. Is it only a cure if we can continue the same lifestyle of crappy food and minimal exercise, never cleaning our bodies from the toxins we are bombarded with daily? I think that's unrealistic. As long as I remain in one of those unexplainable " spontaneous remissions " that makes a neurologist scratch his/her head, I'm satisfied with my cure. Crystal __________________________________________________________ Turn any room into a work of art. Click now for beautiful oriental rugs! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsE72938ZVeHa0Ygd9QSML1XbitOZOJ\ YUHKSCO2SX0HczuD59tDhPC/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Hi everyone, I am new to this site I a however not new to alternative medicine.  I have recently had a flare up the 2nd one in 9 years.  And do not have health insurance.  I did find my way to be seen through my city hospital.  They did a lp which gave me  a migrain for a week and want me to follow up in a month with a MRI.  I have looked into the oxygen therapy idea and spoke to a woman in depth who works in  a clinic where this procedure takes place.  She told me I I would have to get a " prescription " from a doctor prescribing me 15-30 treatments.  So here is where I have found some difficulty.  I asked one of the city hospital doctors about this prescription she said that they know nothing about it and would  not help.  I would like to figure out a way to be " prescribed " this treatment.  Here is of course where Western and Alternative medicine differ greatly.  Please if anyone has an idea let me know. Thank you,Chenille   > > > > > What I believe to be 'sad and unfortunate' is that you would ever think > that sending an email like that would be OK. > > > > Please remember that there are many newly diagnosed people on here who > are probably terrified and feeling very unsure - therefore your email wasn't > terribly helpful...to ANY of us. > > Hi , > > See how funny email is? And how everyone reacts differently? I read that > post, and it didn't bother me in the least. I think it's generally accepted > among those of us who live & breathe alternative medicine, that a " cure " is > really laughable... whether we're talking about cancer, MS, MD, etc. Those of > us who see the differences in people's lives thanks to easy (AND > INEXPENSIVE) things like diet restrictions and supplements, and > detoxification, shake our heads at the amount of money being thrown into R & D > for supposed cures. Note that mainstream's version of a cure includes a pill > or IV therapy that will undoubtedly have major side effects and likely cause > other health problems, ensuring repeat business from their customer base. > > I also think it's time to bounce around the idea about what a " cure " means > again. Is it only a cure if we can continue the same lifestyle of crappy > food and minimal exercise, never cleaning our bodies from the toxins we are > bombarded with daily? I think that's unrealistic. As long as I remain in one > of those unexplainable " spontaneous remissions " that makes a neurologist > scratch his/her head, I'm satisfied with my cure. > > Crystal > > > -- Yvette Freelance Writer Atlantean Productions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Just to jump in--she just meant that Western medicine isn't looking for a cure. and I both believe the cure lies in natural and alternative methods... I do also believe stem cell therapy and bioidentical hormone therapy hold promise--whether one wants to think of those as medicine or not, is another question. P.S. and I are starting a fast on July 5th--If anyone else wants to join in, it can be a group effort. > > Sorry about that, I meant insn't possible with conventional medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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