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In a message dated 9/26/2000 1:46:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shelters@... writes:

<< You can't eat donuts after bpd/ds? I thought you could eat

anything in reasonable proportions.

>>

I eat donuts! I love them!

Why can't you eat donuts?

Ronda

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> And is it easy to eat in moderation? This is a concern of mine. If

> I'm not too good at eating in moderation now, will it be easier to

> eat in moderation post-op? I don't think I've ever eaten just one

> donut.

Dee, yes it is easy for me to practice moderation. Honestly, I have eaten as

many as two donuts, but that's my extreme limit and I simply don't want

anymore (even if I could fit it in my tummy, which I can't!)

I know that many of us have never really experienced satiety before surgery,

but you definitely will experience it afterward. In the early post-op

period, the stomach is very small, with a capacity of about 4 ounces. Most

people say that they don't WANT to fill up on foods that are nutritionally

empty. I sure as heck didn't. You quickly learn that it's just not worth

bothering with foods that don't pack a decent nutritional punch. This is

true for quite a few months post-op. (During that time, most people don't

even want the sweet things anyway, for whatever odd reasons, our tastes

change.) I didn't even eat a salad until about 8 weeks post-op.

Now, at 11 months post-op, my stomach capacity is still smaller than pre-op,

but closer to normal so that I can enjoy a side dish or a drink with my meal

and not get overfull. But the satiety level is still much lower than it was

pre-op. Honest and truly, one donut is grand and two is the absolute limit

for me, even now.

M.

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in Fremont, CA, age 38

Starting weight 299, now 183.5

Starting BMI 49.7, now 30.5

Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99

http://www.duodenalswitch.com

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> You can't eat donuts after bpd/ds? I thought you could eat

> anything in reasonable proportions.

One of my very favorite post-op ladies was eating mini chocolate

frosted donuts at the first support group meeting I attended as a pre-

op. Why??? Because she could! She may chime in here in a little

while, so I won't blow her cover. Of course she does eat proteins

first and does not overindulge in the sweets and carbs, but " normal "

folks can eat a couple of mini-donuts (NOT A WHOLE BOX) and post-op

DS-ers can eat like " normal " people. IMHO, that is the beauty of this

surgery...our quality of life will be closer to " normal " than post-

ops of any other WLS type.

My 36th birthday and my son's 2nd birthday are coming up in the next

couple of weeks and I WILL eat birthday cake at both of them. This is

not the most important thing in the world to me, but it does give me

a sense of normalcy that I never would have had with an RNY.

Regards,

Lori (-25)

Lap BPD/DS 8/17/00

United Healthcare Select Plus POS

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Yummmmmmmmmm....... donuts! I cant wait to get to my WV hometown. There is

an Italian family called Torlone who have the very best donuts!!! Krispy

Kreme is my next stop in my TX hometown!!!

kris

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Aniceto Baltasar, MD

Alcoy, SPAIN

July 23, 1999 - self pay

Open BPD/DS

60.35 inches gone

140+ lbs gone to the wind

La vita e bella!

See my pics: http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Kris/kris.html

Donuts?

> You can't eat donuts after bpd/ds? I thought you could eat

> anything in reasonable proportions.

>

> -Sherr (Lake Marcel, WA)

> pre-op bpd/ds - approval pending

> Dr. Welker

> pre-op BMI 69.9

> 5'5 " / 420 pounds

> http://www.fluffynet.com/wls/

>

> > <snip>

> > I have a HARD time believing that anyone post-op from wls

> > is going to be eating donuts. Milkshake I could see.. a

> > liquid, even a bite or two of prime-rib maybe

> > <snip>

> > pixel

> >

> > --

> > NW Ohio 37yo - 5'5 " 320 lbs - BMI 53.2

> > Dr. Hess - Med.Mutual of Ohio approved in 5 weeks

> > Consult: Aug.8 / Approval: Sept. 15 / Surgery: Dec. '00

>

>

>

>

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Yummmmmmmmmm....... donuts! I cant wait to get to my WV hometown. There is

an Italian family called Torlone who have the very best donuts!!! Krispy

Kreme is my next stop in my TX hometown!!!

kris

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Aniceto Baltasar, MD

Alcoy, SPAIN

July 23, 1999 - self pay

Open BPD/DS

60.35 inches gone

140+ lbs gone to the wind

La vita e bella!

See my pics: http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Kris/kris.html

Donuts?

> You can't eat donuts after bpd/ds? I thought you could eat

> anything in reasonable proportions.

>

> -Sherr (Lake Marcel, WA)

> pre-op bpd/ds - approval pending

> Dr. Welker

> pre-op BMI 69.9

> 5'5 " / 420 pounds

> http://www.fluffynet.com/wls/

>

> > <snip>

> > I have a HARD time believing that anyone post-op from wls

> > is going to be eating donuts. Milkshake I could see.. a

> > liquid, even a bite or two of prime-rib maybe

> > <snip>

> > pixel

> >

> > --

> > NW Ohio 37yo - 5'5 " 320 lbs - BMI 53.2

> > Dr. Hess - Med.Mutual of Ohio approved in 5 weeks

> > Consult: Aug.8 / Approval: Sept. 15 / Surgery: Dec. '00

>

>

>

>

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Yummmmmmmmmm....... donuts! I cant wait to get to my WV hometown. There is

an Italian family called Torlone who have the very best donuts!!! Krispy

Kreme is my next stop in my TX hometown!!!

kris

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Aniceto Baltasar, MD

Alcoy, SPAIN

July 23, 1999 - self pay

Open BPD/DS

60.35 inches gone

140+ lbs gone to the wind

La vita e bella!

See my pics: http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Kris/kris.html

Donuts?

> You can't eat donuts after bpd/ds? I thought you could eat

> anything in reasonable proportions.

>

> -Sherr (Lake Marcel, WA)

> pre-op bpd/ds - approval pending

> Dr. Welker

> pre-op BMI 69.9

> 5'5 " / 420 pounds

> http://www.fluffynet.com/wls/

>

> > <snip>

> > I have a HARD time believing that anyone post-op from wls

> > is going to be eating donuts. Milkshake I could see.. a

> > liquid, even a bite or two of prime-rib maybe

> > <snip>

> > pixel

> >

> > --

> > NW Ohio 37yo - 5'5 " 320 lbs - BMI 53.2

> > Dr. Hess - Med.Mutual of Ohio approved in 5 weeks

> > Consult: Aug.8 / Approval: Sept. 15 / Surgery: Dec. '00

>

>

>

>

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Dee -

I know you wre asking Mel about this -- but I just had to chime in.

You wrote:

Is it easy to eat in moderation? If I'm not too good at eating in

moderation now, will it be easier post-op? This is a concern of

mine. I don't think I've eaten just one donut.

I gotta tell you that you will be AMAZED at how easy it is to eat in

moderation. I can't tell you how wonderful that feeling is post-op -- to

not have to feel deprived by not being able to eat enough. And, how easy it

will be to tell when you're " full " . If I try and take another bite when I'm

full . . . well -- it doesn't get swallowed, but spit into a napkin. Its

amazing . . . SIMPLY amazing.

I had a Haggendaaz (sp) ice cream the other day. It was covered with

chocolate and almonds. The outer shell was too rich for me, so I gave it to

my toddler and dog. Then, I hate 1/2 of the vanilla ice cream inside and

was VERY satisfied. The other 1/2 is still in the freezer . . . it's weird,

I tell ya!

Kristi

Cincinnati, Ohio

5'7 " , 39 years old

8/22 - 283 - BMI 44.3

9/26 - 247.5 - BMI 38.8

ciao to 35.5 lbs. & 30+ inches in 5 weeks

Open BPD/DS 08/22/00

Dr. Maguire, Kettering OH

HumanaFreedom Plus Plan

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In a message dated 9/26/2000 11:57:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

willbefit@... writes:

<< And, how easy it

will be to tell when you're " full " . If I try and take another bite when I'm

full . . . well -- it doesn't get swallowed, but spit into a napkin. Its

amazing . . . SIMPLY amazing.

>>

Dee, That is so true I can't over eat as of yet! I'm 13 months post-op.

I cannot swallow that bite if I'm full. My hubby and daughter both know when

I'm full. It's a joke now (Are you gonna eat that or spit it out).

Hugs,

------

Ronda in Ohio, age 40

Starting weight 230, Now 133

Starting BMI 41, Now 23.7

Open BPD/DS, 08/31/99

Dr. Maguire, Kettering Ohio

United Healthcare, Federal

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