Re: Dinosaurus search results

[Guest guest]

Don:

There is a web page on this at

http:\\users.computron.net/dinerman/dinosaurusmedicus.htm

The last update was October 24, and so far Mr. Kellow has the distinction of

being the Grand Yoda of all us on the OFS, (Old Fart Squad).

We still have not heard from Gene Gandy and some others that you know may

have a lot of experience, but that is where it stands for now.

Ed

Older than dirt.

Silsbee EMS

114 hwy 96 south

Silsbee, Tx 77656

Re: Dinosaurus search results

> Don:

>

> There is a web page on this at

> http:\\users.computron.net/dinerman/dinosaurusmedicus.htm

>

> The last update was October 24, and so far Mr. Kellow has the distinction

of

> being the Grand Yoda of all us on the OFS, (Old Fart Squad).

>

> We still have not heard from Gene Gandy and some others that you know may

> have a lot of experience, but that is where it stands for now.

>

> Ed

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For God's sake call Gandy. I don't want to head the list! I'm not THAT old!

BK

Silsbee EMS wrote:

> Don:

>

> There is a web page on this at

> http:\\users.computron.net/dinerman/dinosaurusmedicus.htm

>

> The last update was October 24, and so far Mr. Kellow has the distinction of

> being the Grand Yoda of all us on the OFS, (Old Fart Squad).

>

> We still have not heard from Gene Gandy and some others that you know may

> have a lot of experience, but that is where it stands for now.

>

> Ed

> Older than dirt.

>

> Silsbee EMS

> 114 hwy 96 south

> Silsbee, Tx 77656

>

> Re: Dinosaurus search results

>

> > Don:

> >

> > There is a web page on this at

> > http:\\users.computron.net/dinerman/dinosaurusmedicus.htm

> >

> > The last update was October 24, and so far Mr. Kellow has the distinction

> of

> > being the Grand Yoda of all us on the OFS, (Old Fart Squad).

> >

> > We still have not heard from Gene Gandy and some others that you know may

> > have a lot of experience, but that is where it stands for now.

> >

> > Ed

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I first got involved in EMS in 1975.

Gene

[Guest guest]

Oh my god, u mean I've been in it longer than Gene? Not much longer 1974.

With a Red Cross card no less.

Larry Mc

PJCEMSP/Paris EMS

Re: Dinosaurus search results

> I first got involved in EMS in 1975.

>

> Gene

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Gene-

When did you get your first Texas certification?

Regards-

TD EMTP ETC

Re: Dinosaurus search results

I first got involved in EMS in 1975.

Gene

[Guest guest]

I think it was Dr Bob who gave god the recipe for dirt.

Silsbee EMS

114 hwy 96 south

Silsbee, Tx 77656

Re: Dinosaurus search results

>

>

> > Don:

> >

> > There is a web page on this at

> > http:\\users.computron.net/dinerman/dinosaurusmedicus.htm

> >

> > The last update was October 24, and so far Mr. Kellow has the

distinction

> of

> > being the Grand Yoda of all us on the OFS, (Old Fart Squad).

> >

> > We still have not heard from Gene Gandy and some others that you know

may

> > have a lot of experience, but that is where it stands for now.

> >

> > Ed

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I started out with a Red Cross card in about '75, which I had until we

managed to get an EMT Course in Honey Grove. I think that class must have

been somewhere around 1977 or 78.

Gene

[Guest guest]

Gene,

Apparently Terry is sticking with the criteria of when the DM was first

registered with the state, rather than when the DM first started in the

business. When I went to EMT school there was no requirement to do so.

Everyone that I worked with had ARC - Advanced first aid, and EMT training was

not made uniformly available throughout the state. The state's EMT requirement

came later.

I have to agree that the state registration criteria is the only truly

foolproof method of verification, although it is not an accurate indicator of

tenure in the bidness.

BK.

PS: I didn't even know that EMT courses were offered in 1969. Who put them on?

wegandy1938@... wrote:

> I started out with a Red Cross card in about '75, which I had until we

> managed to get an EMT Course in Honey Grove. I think that class must have

> been somewhere around 1977 or 78.

>

> Gene

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ishmael from Galveston was one of them .

Silsbee EMS

114 hwy 96 south

Silsbee, Tx 77656

Re: Dinosaurus search results

> Gene,

>

> Apparently Terry is sticking with the criteria of when the DM was first

> registered with the state, rather than when the DM first started in the

> business. When I went to EMT school there was no requirement to do so.

> Everyone that I worked with had ARC - Advanced first aid, and EMT training

was

> not made uniformly available throughout the state. The state's EMT

requirement

> came later.

>

> I have to agree that the state registration criteria is the only truly

> foolproof method of verification, although it is not an accurate indicator

of

> tenure in the bidness.

>

> BK.

>

> PS: I didn't even know that EMT courses were offered in 1969. Who put them

on?

>

>

>

>

> wegandy1938@... wrote:

>

> > I started out with a Red Cross card in about '75, which I had until we

> > managed to get an EMT Course in Honey Grove. I think that class must

have

> > been somewhere around 1977 or 78.

> >

> > Gene

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Bob, Gene and the rest:

I think we need to have a certain criteria for the DM slot. As I said, I

started in 1969, but I only had a Red Cross card, the EMT curriculum wasn't

known yet, (I don't think), and the term " Emergency Medical Services " was

unknown as well. I started in EMS in 69, but I never said I was an EMT,

because they hadn''t been invented yet.

Was I in Texas? No, it was in New Jersey. I was a cadet with the South

Matawan Township First Aid and Rescue Squad. I did go on calls but my

responsibilities were limited until I became a full member. I didn't get to

Texas until 1984, and was not able to even take the EMT exam until it was

offered in 1973, and that was in Louisiana.

We need a standard since I have seen a couple of different ideas as to what

qualifies a person as a DM. Lets set something and then the Grand Yoda can

be picked.

Ed

[Guest guest]

I

> Bob, Gene and the rest:

>

> I think we need to have a certain criteria for the DM slot. As I said, I

> started in 1969, but I only had a Red Cross card, the EMT curriculum wasn't

> known yet, (I don't think), and the term " Emergency Medical Services " was

> unknown as well. I started in EMS in 69, but I never said I was an EMT,

> because they hadn''t been invented yet.

>

> Was I in Texas? No, it was in New Jersey. I was a cadet with the South

> Matawan Township First Aid and Rescue Squad. I did go on calls but my

> responsibilities were limited until I became a full member. I didn't get

> to

> Texas until 1984, and was not able to even take the EMT exam until it was

> offered in 1973, and that was in Louisiana.

>

> We need a standard since I have seen a couple of different ideas as to what

> qualifies a person as a DM. Lets set something and then the Grand Yoda can

> be picked.

>

> Ed

>

>

I started out as an " ambulance driver " in 1970 with the Colonial Funeral Home

in Irving. All that was required was ARC Advanced First Aid. Being a

funeral home operated ambulance service, we were required to wear dress suits

and ties!

[Guest guest]

:

Glad to hear from another guy from Jersey. Always remember, you can take the

boy out of Jersey, but you can never take the Jersey out of the boy.

Where I started is now known as Aberdeen, since there were two Matawans

(Township and Borough) and it was getting confusing.

Have a great trip back, I went home in September and my mother and I both

went to New York City to visit ground zero on September 11. We lost friends

there, with one or two who still are listed as missing (and probably always

will be). With all the security and about a million others from all over the

world having the same idea, we didn't get to see very much.

Ed Brando

[Guest guest]

Ed, et al,

I was just guessing about the criteria. I too, " began " with Advanced First Aid

in 1967, which was the standard of the day. That was 35 years ago. But, I was

changed from 35 to 31 years on the DM list, which would correlate with EMT

course availability in Ft. Worth. As such, I just thought that Terry was using

TDH EMT course records (if they exist).

Because I'm still a " Spring Chicken " , there are many out there who have been in

this longer, but only possessed Advanced First Aid credentials at the time. It

shouldn't matter where one entered the field. And, bulletproof criteria might be

impossible to establish.

I attended EMT course #4, which was held at the Ft. Worth Fire and Police

Training Academy in 1971-72 and was taught by a Captain Carlson from Carswell

AFB. Gene Weatherall tested me on the " Mechanical Aids to Breathing " portion of

the state exam. I was working at Hugh M. & Sons Funeral Home in Arlington

at the time.

Bob

emsbrando@... wrote:

> Bob, Gene and the rest:

>

> I think we need to have a certain criteria for the DM slot. As I said, I

> started in 1969, but I only had a Red Cross card, the EMT curriculum wasn't

> known yet, (I don't think), and the term " Emergency Medical Services " was

> unknown as well. I started in EMS in 69, but I never said I was an EMT,

> because they hadn''t been invented yet.

>

> Was I in Texas? No, it was in New Jersey. I was a cadet with the South

> Matawan Township First Aid and Rescue Squad. I did go on calls but my

> responsibilities were limited until I became a full member. I didn't get to

> Texas until 1984, and was not able to even take the EMT exam until it was

> offered in 1973, and that was in Louisiana.

>

> We need a standard since I have seen a couple of different ideas as to what

> qualifies a person as a DM. Lets set something and then the Grand Yoda can

> be picked.

>

> Ed

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ed,

I am another product of the New Jersey Volunteer EMS System. I grew up in

South Plainfield and was a cadet for the Plainfield Rescue Squad in 1982.

After a stint in the military, I ended up in Oklahoma and went thru the

older National Registry Tier System with the 6 month limits and had to

complete and work at each level for six months before you could wear the

patch or start school. I came to Texas in 1999 after a friend begged me to

come. I am very greatful to him.

I am going back home for Christmas this year to show my kids where I

started my career.

It is nice to see that I am not the only Jersey person here in Tx.

Ruhnke, NR/CCEMT-P

Field Training Officer

jruhnke@...

Re: Dinosaurus search results

Bob, Gene and the rest:

I think we need to have a certain criteria for the DM slot. As I said, I

started in 1969, but I only had a Red Cross card, the EMT curriculum wasn't

known yet, (I don't think), and the term " Emergency Medical Services " was

unknown as well. I started in EMS in 69, but I never said I was an EMT,

because they hadn''t been invented yet.

Was I in Texas? No, it was in New Jersey. I was a cadet with the South

Matawan Township First Aid and Rescue Squad. I did go on calls but my

responsibilities were limited until I became a full member. I didn't get to

Texas until 1984, and was not able to even take the EMT exam until it was

offered in 1973, and that was in Louisiana.

We need a standard since I have seen a couple of different ideas as to what

qualifies a person as a DM. Lets set something and then the Grand Yoda can

be picked.

Ed

[Guest guest]

Ed,

I am another product of the New Jersey Volunteer EMS System. I grew up in

South Plainfield and was a cadet for the Plainfield Rescue Squad in 1982.

After a stint in the military, I ended up in Oklahoma and went thru the

older National Registry Tier System with the 6 month limits and had to

complete and work at each level for six months before you could wear the

patch or start school. I came to Texas in 1999 after a friend begged me to

come. I am very greatful to him.

I am going back home for Christmas this year to show my kids where I

started my career.

It is nice to see that I am not the only Jersey person here in Tx.

Ruhnke, NR/CCEMT-P

Field Training Officer

jruhnke@...

Re: Dinosaurus search results

Bob, Gene and the rest:

I think we need to have a certain criteria for the DM slot. As I said, I

started in 1969, but I only had a Red Cross card, the EMT curriculum wasn't

known yet, (I don't think), and the term " Emergency Medical Services " was

unknown as well. I started in EMS in 69, but I never said I was an EMT,

because they hadn''t been invented yet.

Was I in Texas? No, it was in New Jersey. I was a cadet with the South

Matawan Township First Aid and Rescue Squad. I did go on calls but my

responsibilities were limited until I became a full member. I didn't get to

Texas until 1984, and was not able to even take the EMT exam until it was

offered in 1973, and that was in Louisiana.

We need a standard since I have seen a couple of different ideas as to what

qualifies a person as a DM. Lets set something and then the Grand Yoda can

be picked.

Ed

[Guest guest]

Well I am the same way I got my first EMT in NY in 1974 and moved to

Texas in 1978. Got my TX EMT at County Memorial Hospital in 1979

will with the Hill (Forest Hill FD). I went to TCOM for Paramedic in

1980 or 1981. was the primary instructor.

Bernie Stafford EMTP

[Guest guest]

God I feel young....

Mike

Re: Dinosaurus search results

>

> > Bob, Gene and the rest:

> >

> > I think we need to have a certain criteria for the DM slot. As I said,

I

> > started in 1969, but I only had a Red Cross card, the EMT curriculum

wasn't

> > known yet, (I don't think), and the term " Emergency Medical Services "

was

> > unknown as well. I started in EMS in 69, but I never said I was an EMT,

> > because they hadn''t been invented yet.

> >

> > Was I in Texas? No, it was in New Jersey. I was a cadet with the South

> > Matawan Township First Aid and Rescue Squad. I did go on calls but my

> > responsibilities were limited until I became a full member. I didn't

get

> > to

> > Texas until 1984, and was not able to even take the EMT exam until it

was

> > offered in 1973, and that was in Louisiana.

> >

> > We need a standard since I have seen a couple of different ideas as to

what

> > qualifies a person as a DM. Lets set something and then the Grand Yoda

can

> > be picked.

> >

> > Ed

> >

> >

>

>

>

> I started out as an " ambulance driver " in 1970 with the Colonial Funeral

Home

> in Irving. All that was required was ARC Advanced First Aid. Being a

> funeral home operated ambulance service, we were required to wear dress

suits

> and ties!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carpetbaggers???

Hide the women folk and the good liquor!

Larry

> Ed,

> I am another product of the New Jersey Volunteer EMS System. I

grew up in

> South Plainfield and was a cadet for the Plainfield Rescue Squad

in 1982.

> After a stint in the military, I ended up in Oklahoma and went

thru the

> older National Registry Tier System with the 6 month limits and

had to

> complete and work at each level for six months before you could

wear the

> patch or start school. I came to Texas in 1999 after a friend

begged me to

> come. I am very greatful to him.

> I am going back home for Christmas this year to show my kids

where I

> started my career.

> It is nice to see that I am not the only Jersey person here in Tx.

>

> Ruhnke, NR/CCEMT-P

> Field Training Officer

> jruhnke@c...

>

> Re: Dinosaurus search results

>

>

> Bob, Gene and the rest:

>

> I think we need to have a certain criteria for the DM slot. As I

said, I

> started in 1969, but I only had a Red Cross card, the EMT

curriculum wasn't

> known yet, (I don't think), and the term " Emergency Medical

Services " was

> unknown as well. I started in EMS in 69, but I never said I was

an EMT,

> because they hadn''t been invented yet.

>

> Was I in Texas? No, it was in New Jersey. I was a cadet with the

South

> Matawan Township First Aid and Rescue Squad. I did go on calls

but my

> responsibilities were limited until I became a full member. I

didn't get to

>

> Texas until 1984, and was not able to even take the EMT exam until

it was

> offered in 1973, and that was in Louisiana.

>

> We need a standard since I have seen a couple of different ideas

as to what

> qualifies a person as a DM. Lets set something and then the Grand

Yoda can

> be picked.

>

> Ed

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Genie was still going out and testing people as late as 1973 he tested that

same criteria at a funeral home eca school in silsbee, the first emt course

held in this area was at St. beth hospital in Beaumont and Genie was

there as were a few others who are still working in the Houston TDH office.

Silsbee EMS

114 hwy 96 south

Silsbee, Tx 77656

Re: Dinosaurus search results

> Ed, et al,

>

> I was just guessing about the criteria. I too, " began " with Advanced First

Aid

> in 1967, which was the standard of the day. That was 35 years ago. But, I

was

> changed from 35 to 31 years on the DM list, which would correlate with EMT

> course availability in Ft. Worth. As such, I just thought that Terry was

using

> TDH EMT course records (if they exist).

>

> Because I'm still a " Spring Chicken " , there are many out there who have

been in

> this longer, but only possessed Advanced First Aid credentials at the

time. It

> shouldn't matter where one entered the field. And, bulletproof criteria

might be

> impossible to establish.

>

> I attended EMT course #4, which was held at the Ft. Worth Fire and Police

> Training Academy in 1971-72 and was taught by a Captain Carlson from

Carswell

> AFB. Gene Weatherall tested me on the " Mechanical Aids to Breathing "

portion of

> the state exam. I was working at Hugh M. & Sons Funeral Home in

Arlington

> at the time.

>

> Bob

>

> emsbrando@... wrote:

>

> > Bob, Gene and the rest:

> >

> > I think we need to have a certain criteria for the DM slot. As I said,

I

> > started in 1969, but I only had a Red Cross card, the EMT curriculum

wasn't

> > known yet, (I don't think), and the term " Emergency Medical Services "

was

> > unknown as well. I started in EMS in 69, but I never said I was an EMT,

> > because they hadn''t been invented yet.

> >

> > Was I in Texas? No, it was in New Jersey. I was a cadet with the South

> > Matawan Township First Aid and Rescue Squad. I did go on calls but my

> > responsibilities were limited until I became a full member. I didn't

get to

> > Texas until 1984, and was not able to even take the EMT exam until it

was

> > offered in 1973, and that was in Louisiana.

> >

> > We need a standard since I have seen a couple of different ideas as to

what

> > qualifies a person as a DM. Lets set something and then the Grand Yoda

can

> > be picked.

> >

> > Ed

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Me too...

Hell, I wasn't even born until 1971

Re: Dinosaurus search results

>

>

> >

> > > Bob, Gene and the rest:

> > >

> > > I think we need to have a certain criteria for the DM slot. As I

said,

> I

> > > started in 1969, but I only had a Red Cross card, the EMT curriculum

> wasn't

> > > known yet, (I don't think), and the term " Emergency Medical Services "

> was

> > > unknown as well. I started in EMS in 69, but I never said I was an

EMT,

> > > because they hadn''t been invented yet.

> > >

> > > Was I in Texas? No, it was in New Jersey. I was a cadet with the

South

> > > Matawan Township First Aid and Rescue Squad. I did go on calls but my

> > > responsibilities were limited until I became a full member. I didn't

> get

> > > to

> > > Texas until 1984, and was not able to even take the EMT exam until it

> was

> > > offered in 1973, and that was in Louisiana.

> > >

> > > We need a standard since I have seen a couple of different ideas as to

> what

> > > qualifies a person as a DM. Lets set something and then the Grand

Yoda

> can

> > > be picked.

> > >

> > > Ed

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > I started out as an " ambulance driver " in 1970 with the Colonial Funeral

> Home

> > in Irving. All that was required was ARC Advanced First Aid. Being a

> > funeral home operated ambulance service, we were required to wear dress

> suits

> > and ties!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Question now is do those carpet bagger ems guys stay long enough to be

called real Texans / lol.

Silsbee EMS

114 hwy 96 south

Silsbee, Tx 77656

Re: Dinosaurus search results

> >

> >

> > Bob, Gene and the rest:

> >

> > I think we need to have a certain criteria for the DM slot. As I

> said, I

> > started in 1969, but I only had a Red Cross card, the EMT

> curriculum wasn't

> > known yet, (I don't think), and the term " Emergency Medical

> Services " was

> > unknown as well. I started in EMS in 69, but I never said I was

> an EMT,

> > because they hadn''t been invented yet.

> >

> > Was I in Texas? No, it was in New Jersey. I was a cadet with the

> South

> > Matawan Township First Aid and Rescue Squad. I did go on calls

> but my

> > responsibilities were limited until I became a full member. I

> didn't get to

> >

> > Texas until 1984, and was not able to even take the EMT exam until

> it was

> > offered in 1973, and that was in Louisiana.

> >

> > We need a standard since I have seen a couple of different ideas

> as to what

> > qualifies a person as a DM. Lets set something and then the Grand

> Yoda can

> > be picked.

> >

> > Ed

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I fled here from the " Peoples Republic of Noo Yawk " during the Great (or

Not-so-Great) Yankee Migration of the 70's. Had the good common sense to know

when I'd found heaven. Not to mention the good liquor and women.

Photo included. Can I stay?

TerryD EMTP DM

Re: Dinosaurus search results

> Carpetbaggers???

>

> Hide the women folk and the good liquor!

>

>

> Larry

>

[Guest guest]

The more the liquor, the " gooder " the women. Is that your experience from New

York?

BEB

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, Texas

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Re: Dinosaurus search results

> Carpetbaggers???

>

> Hide the women folk and the good liquor!

>

>

> Larry

>

[Guest guest]

..........I just a inexperienced young lad in Noo Yawk. Texas taught me most of

what I know about liquor and women. LIQUOR FIRST.............for the lady at

least.........

Re: Dinosaurus search results

> Carpetbaggers???

>

> Hide the women folk and the good liquor!

>

>

> Larry

>

[Guest guest]

AND vice-versa.....

BK (DM egg)

Re: Re: Dinosaurus search results

The more the liquor, the " gooder " the women. Is that your experience from

New York?

BEB

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, Texas

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or your money back.

Re: Dinosaurus search results

> Carpetbaggers???

>

> Hide the women folk and the good liquor!

>

>

> Larry

>