QUESTION

[Guest guest]

STACIE,

I REALLY ONLY REMEMBER THE PROBLEM OF LARGE POOPS SINCE JAKE TRAINED, WHICH

WAS AT ABOUT 3 YRS. HE WOULD RESIST " GOING ON THE POTTY " EVEN PAST THAT

BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HARD AND A LITTLE PAINFUL. HE STILL WILL HAVE " SKID

MARKS " BECAUSE HE TRIES TO HOLD IT IN . (HE TELLS ME HE'S AFRAID IT WILL

HURT.) MY GIRLFRIEND'S NON-RSS 5 YR OLD GIRL STILL HAS PROBLEMS GOING,

THOUGH. SHE FEELS IT'S PSYCHOLOGICAL AND HAS NEVER SEEN A SPECIALIST EVEN

THE DOCTOR SUGGESTED IT. I'VE NEVER EVEN MEN-TIONED IT, I DON'T THINK, TO

JAKE'S PEDIATRICIAN BECAUSE HE DOES GO ALMOST EVERY DAY. I TELL JAKE HE

NEEDS TO DRINK MORE JUICE, BUT NOW I THINK I MIGHT TRY PRUNE JUICE OR KARO

SYRUP. I REMEMBER BUYING KARO WHEN HE WAS AN INFANT TO ADD TO HIS MILK TO

HELP GAIN WEIGHT (PER THE PEDIATRICIAN WHO ADDED THAT IT WILL HELP WITH

CONSTIPATION, TOO). I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS PROBLEM BEING ASSOCIATED WITH

RSS UNTIL I READ THE SIMILAR STORIES ON THE EMAIL. BYE FOR NOW.

DEBBI, MOM TO JAKE, 4 YRS., 25 LBS., 35 3/4 "

[Guest guest]

Hi Stacie- My son doesn't have " large poopies " either, but since about 3,

spends about 1/2 hour on the toilet doing his thing. He is now 6, and now it

takes about 45 minutes sometimes. I have a theory that RSS seems to have

something to do with the bowels as well as calorie absorption. But its just a

theory.

- Hawkins mother to ,6

[Guest guest]

- I belong to the Magic foundation. They have a networking list for

members. I guess I had assumed most of the people on this mail list were

members of the Magic Foundation. - Hawkins

[Guest guest]

Hi Cammy. My name is Diane and I am due November 22. I have lost a total

of 15 pounds since I found out I was pregnant. I was worried too about this

and I have a friend in the doctor's office where I have my ultra sounds done

and she just pulled me in about two or two and a half weeks apart and

measured baby...guess what baby was bigger. Weeks later the doctor even

said baby's getting bigger. They know it's a big deal with me so they let

me know baby is growing so I don't worry. He also said our bodies work in

such a way that our baby comes first always. If anybody is lacking anything

it's us. It will show up later too such as in bones and teeth. One of my

friends (who never had the surgery but) lost some of her teeth after

pregnancy because she didn't get enough vitamins, she didn't take any

either. . . Here is my menu,

vitamins, prenatal, vitamin a & d water soluable, calcium, right before bed I

take iron

Breakfast, bowl of cereal with milk, (as little milk as possible)

snack: a piece of fruit, banana or about 10 grapes, maybe a half an apple

lunch sandwich, like turkey breast or ham and chips or fries

snack: fruit again

dinner 1/2 a pork chop, little bit of mashed potatoes, corn

snack; popcorn or cereal

It is real important to talk about this with your doctor so he can reassure

you that baby is fine.

I hope this helps

Diane

[Guest guest]

Cammi,

I went through two pregancies where I didn't gain any weight. With the first

one I weighed exactly the same the day I went in to have him as I weighed the

day I found out I was pregnant. I ate plenty and he was extremely healthy.

He weighed 8 lbs 1 oz and was 2 weeks early.

With the second one I actually weighed 13 pounds less on the day I went in to

have her than I did the day I found out I was pregnant. Same with her, I ate

plenty and she was very healthy. She was also 2 weeks early and didn't weigh

as much as my son, but she did weigh 7 lbs. 1/2 oz. So she was certainly a

good weight.

I would say as long as your doctors aren't concerned, you shouldn't be

either. I had not had weightloss surgery or anything, just wasn't putting on

any weight. Eat healthy, get some exercise and follow your docs orders. You

and the baby will be just fine!!

Congratulations!!

Nijuana

[Guest guest]

> From: Chiefs3289@...

>

> Cammi,

>

> I went through two pregancies where I didn't gain any weight. With the

first

> one I weighed exactly the same the day I went in to have him as I weighed

the

> day I found out I was pregnant. I ate plenty and he was extremely

healthy.

> He weighed 8 lbs 1 oz and was 2 weeks early.

>

> With the second one I actually weighed 13 pounds less on the day I went in

to

> have her than I did the day I found out I was pregnant. Same with her, I

ate

> plenty and she was very healthy. She was also 2 weeks early and didn't

weigh

> as much as my son, but she did weigh 7 lbs. 1/2 oz. So she was certainly

a

> good weight.

>

> I would say as long as your doctors aren't concerned, you shouldn't be

> either. I had not had weightloss surgery or anything, just wasn't putting

on

> any weight. Eat healthy, get some exercise and follow your docs orders.

You

> and the baby will be just fine!!

>

> Congratulations!!

>

> Nijuana

> Thanks so much......I feel much better!

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Cammi, I had the VBG in 6-19-97 and had lost 165 lbs but still needed to

lose 40 more lbs, my wt loss from the surgery had stalled and I had joined

Weight Watchers right after Xmas last yr to help me reach my goal. I had

started in on old eating habits and wasn't losing, I hadn't gained any back

but staying the same. Therefore, I am able to consume a larger portion of

food than you probably can. I eat about every 2 hrs. Yesterday i had a

bowl of cereal for breakfast, lunch was refried beans and salsa (1/2 c)

with tortilla chip (handful) and a tortilla, snack nectarine, dinner

chicken thigh maybe 2 oz, small ear of corn and one slice of cucumber.

snack mwave popcorn lite butter whole bag and a Pepsi. So I don't know if

this helps or not, in between I drink about a gallon of water per day and

may sneak in some juice and/or a popsicle.

Vicki

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>

> To: OSSG-PREGNANTONELIST (DOT) COM

> Subject: Question

> Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 2:59 AM

>

>

>

> I sent an e-mail with this question 4 days ago but as of yet have had no

> response. Am I making it thru to this list? Are you all getting my

> e-mails? Anyway here is the question again.

>

> I had the RNY in January of 99'. I found out (surprise) that I was

pregnant

> in June. So far I have lost over 80 pounds and have not gained any

weight

> with this baby and I am 20 weeks pregnant. I sometimes feel I am not

eating

> enough to support the baby...although everything is shrinking except my

> belly which continues to grow every day. My docs don't worry. But I

really

> do.

>

> For all the pregnant moms-to-be could you please give me a sample menu

plan

> for one day so I could see how what your eating compares to what I am

> eating.

>

> Is there anyone in the group who went thru thier whole pregnancy and

did't

> gain any weight? So far since I have been pregnant I have lost 31

pounds.

>

> please get back to me I wouldn't bother everyone except I am so worried.

>

> Thanks Cammi NY

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This sounds like low protein to me No? Do you drink milk?

Lenore

At 09:18 AM 8/27/99 -0400, you wrote:

>

>

>Hi Cammy. My name is Diane and I am due November 22. I have lost a total

>of 15 pounds since I found out I was pregnant. I was worried too about this

>and I have a friend in the doctor's office where I have my ultra sounds done

>and she just pulled me in about two or two and a half weeks apart and

>measured baby...guess what baby was bigger. Weeks later the doctor even

>said baby's getting bigger. They know it's a big deal with me so they let

>me know baby is growing so I don't worry. He also said our bodies work in

>such a way that our baby comes first always. If anybody is lacking anything

>it's us. It will show up later too such as in bones and teeth. One of my

>friends (who never had the surgery but) lost some of her teeth after

>pregnancy because she didn't get enough vitamins, she didn't take any

>either. . . Here is my menu,

>

>vitamins, prenatal, vitamin a & d water soluable, calcium, right before bed I

>take iron

>Breakfast, bowl of cereal with milk, (as little milk as possible)

>

>snack: a piece of fruit, banana or about 10 grapes, maybe a half an apple

>

>lunch sandwich, like turkey breast or ham and chips or fries

>

>snack: fruit again

>

>dinner 1/2 a pork chop, little bit of mashed potatoes, corn

>

>snack; popcorn or cereal

>

>It is real important to talk about this with your doctor so he can reassure

>you that baby is fine.

>

>I hope this helps

>Diane

>

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

I read your sample menu for a day, and I have a comment. Please go over your

daily intake with your doctor or a dietitian. You are not consuming enough

protein, even if you didn't have weight loss surgery. I am a nurse

practitioner who also has had WLS and often refer pregnant women to

dietitians to go over their diet. You may have to change your food choices,

i.e. eggs for breakfast instead of cereal, etc. I also would recommend

eating protein snacks like hard boiled eggs, or my favorite, beef jerky. All

foods are important, but protein and calcium are particularly important

during pregnancy. Hope this helps... Kim D.

[Guest guest]

Well, the most frequent recommended amount I see is 75 grams per day. I even

see some groups recommending 100 grams a day. Now these amounts are going to

be tough for a person with WLS to achieve, but remember the protein is

literally the " building block " of your baby. This is the major reason that

docs don't recommend pregnancy too soon after WLS, you simply are not taking

in enough nutrients and losing weight rapidly. Assuming that the sandwich has

two ozs. of turkey, I estimate the sample menu intake to be maybe 30-35

grams, or less than half of what is needed to " grow a baby " .

I am no dietitian, but some changes that could be made are: egg beaters for

breakfast (about 10 grams per 1/2 cup), skip the chips and eat more turkey on

the sandwich for lunch, and more protein at dinner. Protein snacks, like

hardboiled eggs, beef jerky (13 grams per ounce and it goes down real easy),

cottage cheese, or even Atkins Advantage bars (18 grams and only 2 carbs per

bar). Just some ideas, but pregnancy brings intense nutritional requirements

and are not to be taken lightly. I would still recommend a visit with a

dietitian to help out.

[Guest guest]

Could you tell us about how much protein you should have?

At 11:35 PM 08/27/1999 EDT, you wrote:

>From: HKDRUMMOND@...

>

>I read your sample menu for a day, and I have a comment. Please go over

your

>daily intake with your doctor or a dietitian. You are not consuming enough

>protein, even if you didn't have weight loss surgery. I am a nurse

>practitioner who also has had WLS and often refer pregnant women to

>dietitians to go over their diet. You may have to change your food choices,

>i.e. eggs for breakfast instead of cereal, etc. I also would recommend

>eating protein snacks like hard boiled eggs, or my favorite, beef jerky.

All

>foods are important, but protein and calcium are particularly important

>during pregnancy. Hope this helps... Kim D.

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Dear Debbi,

Wow! That is not a comforting finding. I would definitely have him

checked out. I know there are other signs for early puberty, one being

body odor from the armpit area. It could just be an odd occurence with

an overactive hair follicle, but I would rather take the doctor's visit

than ignore it.

Please let us know how things go --we will be thinking of you and .

P.S. Have you looked through any of the newsletters or the MAGIC website

on precocious puberty for any hints on what else to look for?

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I am pregnant with twins currently. I had my srugery December 16, 1998. I

am 14 weeks. At first I continued losing weight, I weighed 246 at surgery

I was down to 145 and have stayed there. the doctors are begging me to eat

more, I eat about every hour. I was a complete vegan until i found out I

was pregnant. this si a high risk pregnancy for me since I ahve an

incompetent cervix and a histroy of very early preterm labor. My son was

born at 23 weeks and a pound four years ago, he is now four. Normal women

gain approximately 20-30 pounds with one child and 40-50 with two. My

doctors know I will not be able to gain that much weight. But a good

twenty or so would be great. At delivery they think I will lose 30 lbs.

So I am very worried.

[Guest guest]

<I was wondering how many of you are taking or have taken either <Celebrex

or Vioxx and what dosage? Also how long before you <noticed a difference?

Marty takes Celebrex and, when he started taking it, didn't really know it

was helping him for a couple of weeks. I tried it and felt no change after

3-4 weeks so I changed to Naprelan. I tried some Vioxx he had and didn't

notice any change either. Our dr told us they are very similar.

Tonya

[Guest guest]

Yes. I get about 6 to 10 a day. They are very tight, but painless. Your

body is practicing for the real thing.

Jenna

question

Hello everyone,

I'm in my 16 week now and i have been experiencing

some contraction last night and this morning nothing

major and nothing regular but.....I was wondering if

any of you have them too?

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Thanks i am a little worried

how far along r u?

Suzanne

" Suplicki, Jenna " wrote:

Yes. I get about 6 to 10 a day. They are very tight, but painless. Your

body is practicing for the real thing.

Jenna

question

Hello everyone,

I'm in my 16 week now and i have been experiencing

some contraction last night and this morning nothing

major and nothing regular but.....I was wondering if

any of you have them too?

Suzanne

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[Guest guest]

I'm 21 weeks. I've been getting braxton hicks contractions since about week

15. They are very normal and nothing to worry about. Trust me...you'll

know the difference between braxton hicks and the real thing.

Jenna

RE: question

Thanks i am a little worried

how far along r u?

Suzanne

" Suplicki, Jenna " wrote:

Yes. I get about 6 to 10 a day. They are very tight, but painless. Your

body is practicing for the real thing.

Jenna

[Guest guest]

I will forewarn you of something -- around week 24 or so you will get pelvic

pains. I am told that will be your joints relaxing and it will continue

intermittently until delivery. Well it is not relaxing -- it hurts like hell

and tyelnol does nothing but your joints have to relax to get you ready for

delivery. The pain is normal -- if you spot or something though, that isn't

and you should call your doctor.

I am in my 29th week and experiencing this at times. i also have tender

boobs -- very tender -- which are enlarging and nipples the size of

quarters; my tummy itches and is dry; my back hurts and I have trouble

sleeping; i get leg cramps a couple times a week and the baby gets on my

sciatic nerve at times so I am currently on maternity leave. However I still

wouldn't trade it for the world. In July I will have my baby in my arms.

What more could I want???

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Gained: Health and I AM PREGNANT!

> question

>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I'm in my 16 week now and i have been experiencing

> some contraction last night and this morning nothing

> major and nothing regular but.....I was wondering if

> any of you have them too?

>

> Suzanne

>

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>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

I have them as well.....I had them around 16 weeks too.

There (or so my DR said) brasktin hick contractions.

Don't worry

Crystal

> Hello everyone,

>

> I'm in my 16 week now and i have been experiencing

> some contraction last night and this morning nothing

> major and nothing regular but.....I was wondering if

> any of you have them too?

>

> Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Well, near the end you might get to start peeing in your pants, too. That

has been my highlight for the last 2 weeks. LOL!

donna

2 weeks to go!!

> What more could I want???

[Guest guest]

ok, since we are talking contractions now i have probably a stupid

question....please remember i am a first time mommy. over the weekend i

could feel my tummy tighten up for a few seconds then after it was over it

hurt and had to head to the bathroom to poop. it would happen a couple

times in a row and then go away. i am 24 week and am 9 month post op. it

this bh contrations or is it something with the surgery. it doesnt happen

often but when it does, i better be close to the facilities. thanks for the

help. have a good day.

julie

RE: question

Thanks i am a little worried

how far along r u?

Suzanne

" Suplicki, Jenna " wrote:

Yes. I get about 6 to 10 a day. They are very tight, but painless. Your

body is practicing for the real thing.

Jenna

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,

That's probably BH contrax. Whenever your uterus contracts, your body

releases prostaglandins (I think that's right, someone correct me if I'm

wrong) which causes other things to contract as well, namely your bowels. I

believe that is the reverse of the theory behind the use of castor oil to

induce labor... if you cause the bowels to contract, you can also start your

uterus contracting.

When I would get BH contrax, my belly would just suddenly get as tight as a

basketball for a few seconds up to a minute sometimes, then it would just

relax. They never did really hurt. I never really got regular labor contrax

until I was given Pitocin, because my water broke before I was really even

dilated (don't ask me how THAT happened... I think the little stinker just

decided to put his finger through the wall or something... hehe). Now let me

tell you, sitting at the computer, IMing with a friend from California and

suddenly feeling a little <pop> ... then standing up and feeling a lovely

warm gush... very surreal. My IM friend (Vicki Haase from OSSG) was quite

excited when I IMd her back and told her I was in labor RIGHT NOW. : )

-Kris

- RE: question

ok, since we are talking contractions now i have probably a stupid

question....please remember i am a first time mommy. over the weekend i

could feel my tummy tighten up for a few seconds then after it was over it

hurt and had to head to the bathroom to poop. it would happen a couple

times in a row and then go away. i am 24 week and am 9 month post op. it

this bh contrations or is it something with the surgery. it doesnt happen

often but when it does, i better be close to the facilities. thanks for the

help. have a good day.

julie

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[Guest guest]

That's a new one on me. I braxton hicks contraction doesn't make you poop,

but maybe your bowels are causing the braxton hicks. That wouldn't surprise

me.

Jenna

RE: question

Thanks i am a little worried

how far along r u?

Suzanne

" Suplicki, Jenna " wrote:

Yes. I get about 6 to 10 a day. They are very tight, but painless. Your

body is practicing for the real thing.

Jenna

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[Guest guest]

thanks for the info. this is all sooo cool but at the same time it is very

scary especially being so fresh post op. thanks for the labor infor too. i

always wondered what would happen when your water breaks. i can see me

walking down the street and it happening.

have a good day.

julie

RE: question

ok, since we are talking contractions now i have probably a stupid

question....please remember i am a first time mommy. over the weekend i

could feel my tummy tighten up for a few seconds then after it was over it

hurt and had to head to the bathroom to poop. it would happen a couple

times in a row and then go away. i am 24 week and am 9 month post op. it

this bh contrations or is it something with the surgery. it doesnt happen

often but when it does, i better be close to the facilities. thanks for the

help. have a good day.

julie

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Shonda,

My friend is 33 weeks along and wants to take Evening Primrose Oil to help

ripen her cervix (this is her 1st pregnancy) and I told her that I thought

it would be okay to start taking it around 34 weeks along. What do you

think?

Jenna

Re: question

hello all-

Bh contrax are contractions that warm up the uterus for the real thing, your

body produces prostagladins also semen has it in there too ...prostagladins

make the cervix ripen for a softer cervix in which in turn when you have bh

contrax or a real contrax it is viable to dilate you....evening primrose oil

injested has prostogladins in it so the theroy can help the cervix more

pliable ...but bh contrax can dilate you but cannot put you into labor ....

a drop in protosterone in your blood levels puts you into labor..... hope

this helps

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RE: question

>

>

>

> Thanks i am a little worried

>

> how far along r u?

>

>

>

> Suzanne

>

> " Suplicki, Jenna " wrote:

> Yes. I get about 6 to 10 a day. They are very tight, but painless. Your

> body is practicing for the real thing.

>

> Jenna

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