Re: List Bandwidth, Yahoo, and some Ideas

[Guest guest]

As I've said before, EMS Personnel don't have enough to do. When a simple

message gets 100 replies, we're just not busy enough!

" COUNTS, CHRISTOPHER A. (CHRIS) (JSC-XA) (NASA) " wrote:

> There are several things that would decrease the number of daily messages

> down to what is manageable and what is meaningful. I moderate/own three

> lists and am a member of six others, all on Yahoo. Of all the lists, it

> seems that this one has the most wasted bandwidth and, incidently, is the

> only one where I have seen the recent repeated message problem (I have a few

> thoughts about that, but thats for a different post). Here are a few ideas

> how we can help ourselves.

>

> * If you want to encourage the writer with a " me too! " sentiment, make

> certain that you respond to just the writer and not back to the listserver.

> Frequently that means that you have to " cut and paste " the writer's e-mail

> address into the " To: " section of your e-mail program and not just hit

> " Reply To " . It's a bit harder but that way the sender gets your message and

> if enough people respond, he/she can tally the comments and make ONE

> response back to the listserver. If all you do is repeat the sender's

> material, thats a " me too " note also. Unless you really have something

> different to say, there is no reason to post. Its tough, but try hard to

> control the urge to reply to every note.

>

> * Along these same lines there are frequently " conversations " between 2-3

> people on the list. Remember about the " Reply To " in the above note and

> make certain you are sending it to just the folks in the conversation.

>

> * If you need a phone number or address of a service or company, call

> information or use one of the search engines. If you want more information

> about a job posting, call the company or send a private e-mail (see first

> note). The listserver should be a last resort for this type of thing.

>

> * If you screw up and send out a note accidentally, its too late, the damage

> is done. Sending out an apology takes up more bandwidth and essentially

> doubles the insult. If you insulted a person, service, or other entity in

> your post, apologise to them directly. It will mean more to them. The rest

> of us will only be reminded by your second post that you screwed up.

>

> * Don't cross-post unless the material you're cross-posting is really

> important to Texas EMS. Even then, cut out the important stuff and minimize

> the band width used. It may be hard to believe but a lot of folks are still

> on 28.8K systems (I was on a 26.4K system for the last week).

>

> * Remember that attachments don't work on this list. Some e-mail programs

> send out forwarded messages as an attachment. If your e-mail program is one

> of these, you need to cut and paste the important stuff into a new message

> and send it to the list. Pictures are attachments and don't work eitehr.

>

> * Save the instructions that were sent with the listserver. Of course if

> you're reading this and forgot to save them, its too late. On one list I

> subscribe to, the list owner sends the instructions out once a month. Not

> sure who " owns " this list, but maybe that could be done.

>

> * Finally, if a person can't unsubscribe, or screws up their attempts, we

> seem to get several comments questioning their intelligence. Why do this?

> Here we go " eating our own " again. Not everyone is as computer literate as

> the next person. If the list owner can't help and unsubscribe the person,

> why not send them a clear set of instructions as to how to send the correct

> message. Just don't send it to the entire list (see first note). If the

> list sends out the instructions once a month, maybe we would limit this this

> type problem. Some other lists on YAHOO append the " unsubscribe " info onto

> the bottom of every message but the owner of the list would need to change

> the profile for that to happen.

>

> Just my $0.02, now back to lurker mode...

>

> Counts, MS, MEE, LP

> NS2 / Occupational Safety Team

> NASA - Space Center

> Houston, TX 77058

>

> Paramedic, Team Leader

> League City EMS

> League City, Texas

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As I've said before, EMS Personnel don't have enough to do. When a simple

message gets 100 replies, we're just not busy enough!

" COUNTS, CHRISTOPHER A. (CHRIS) (JSC-XA) (NASA) " wrote:

> There are several things that would decrease the number of daily messages

> down to what is manageable and what is meaningful. I moderate/own three

> lists and am a member of six others, all on Yahoo. Of all the lists, it

> seems that this one has the most wasted bandwidth and, incidently, is the

> only one where I have seen the recent repeated message problem (I have a few

> thoughts about that, but thats for a different post). Here are a few ideas

> how we can help ourselves.

>

> * If you want to encourage the writer with a " me too! " sentiment, make

> certain that you respond to just the writer and not back to the listserver.

> Frequently that means that you have to " cut and paste " the writer's e-mail

> address into the " To: " section of your e-mail program and not just hit

> " Reply To " . It's a bit harder but that way the sender gets your message and

> if enough people respond, he/she can tally the comments and make ONE

> response back to the listserver. If all you do is repeat the sender's

> material, thats a " me too " note also. Unless you really have something

> different to say, there is no reason to post. Its tough, but try hard to

> control the urge to reply to every note.

>

> * Along these same lines there are frequently " conversations " between 2-3

> people on the list. Remember about the " Reply To " in the above note and

> make certain you are sending it to just the folks in the conversation.

>

> * If you need a phone number or address of a service or company, call

> information or use one of the search engines. If you want more information

> about a job posting, call the company or send a private e-mail (see first

> note). The listserver should be a last resort for this type of thing.

>

> * If you screw up and send out a note accidentally, its too late, the damage

> is done. Sending out an apology takes up more bandwidth and essentially

> doubles the insult. If you insulted a person, service, or other entity in

> your post, apologise to them directly. It will mean more to them. The rest

> of us will only be reminded by your second post that you screwed up.

>

> * Don't cross-post unless the material you're cross-posting is really

> important to Texas EMS. Even then, cut out the important stuff and minimize

> the band width used. It may be hard to believe but a lot of folks are still

> on 28.8K systems (I was on a 26.4K system for the last week).

>

> * Remember that attachments don't work on this list. Some e-mail programs

> send out forwarded messages as an attachment. If your e-mail program is one

> of these, you need to cut and paste the important stuff into a new message

> and send it to the list. Pictures are attachments and don't work eitehr.

>

> * Save the instructions that were sent with the listserver. Of course if

> you're reading this and forgot to save them, its too late. On one list I

> subscribe to, the list owner sends the instructions out once a month. Not

> sure who " owns " this list, but maybe that could be done.

>

> * Finally, if a person can't unsubscribe, or screws up their attempts, we

> seem to get several comments questioning their intelligence. Why do this?

> Here we go " eating our own " again. Not everyone is as computer literate as

> the next person. If the list owner can't help and unsubscribe the person,

> why not send them a clear set of instructions as to how to send the correct

> message. Just don't send it to the entire list (see first note). If the

> list sends out the instructions once a month, maybe we would limit this this

> type problem. Some other lists on YAHOO append the " unsubscribe " info onto

> the bottom of every message but the owner of the list would need to change

> the profile for that to happen.

>

> Just my $0.02, now back to lurker mode...

>

> Counts, MS, MEE, LP

> NS2 / Occupational Safety Team

> NASA - Space Center

> Houston, TX 77058

>

> Paramedic, Team Leader

> League City EMS

> League City, Texas

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As I've said before, EMS Personnel don't have enough to do. When a simple

message gets 100 replies, we're just not busy enough!

" COUNTS, CHRISTOPHER A. (CHRIS) (JSC-XA) (NASA) " wrote:

> There are several things that would decrease the number of daily messages

> down to what is manageable and what is meaningful. I moderate/own three

> lists and am a member of six others, all on Yahoo. Of all the lists, it

> seems that this one has the most wasted bandwidth and, incidently, is the

> only one where I have seen the recent repeated message problem (I have a few

> thoughts about that, but thats for a different post). Here are a few ideas

> how we can help ourselves.

>

> * If you want to encourage the writer with a " me too! " sentiment, make

> certain that you respond to just the writer and not back to the listserver.

> Frequently that means that you have to " cut and paste " the writer's e-mail

> address into the " To: " section of your e-mail program and not just hit

> " Reply To " . It's a bit harder but that way the sender gets your message and

> if enough people respond, he/she can tally the comments and make ONE

> response back to the listserver. If all you do is repeat the sender's

> material, thats a " me too " note also. Unless you really have something

> different to say, there is no reason to post. Its tough, but try hard to

> control the urge to reply to every note.

>

> * Along these same lines there are frequently " conversations " between 2-3

> people on the list. Remember about the " Reply To " in the above note and

> make certain you are sending it to just the folks in the conversation.

>

> * If you need a phone number or address of a service or company, call

> information or use one of the search engines. If you want more information

> about a job posting, call the company or send a private e-mail (see first

> note). The listserver should be a last resort for this type of thing.

>

> * If you screw up and send out a note accidentally, its too late, the damage

> is done. Sending out an apology takes up more bandwidth and essentially

> doubles the insult. If you insulted a person, service, or other entity in

> your post, apologise to them directly. It will mean more to them. The rest

> of us will only be reminded by your second post that you screwed up.

>

> * Don't cross-post unless the material you're cross-posting is really

> important to Texas EMS. Even then, cut out the important stuff and minimize

> the band width used. It may be hard to believe but a lot of folks are still

> on 28.8K systems (I was on a 26.4K system for the last week).

>

> * Remember that attachments don't work on this list. Some e-mail programs

> send out forwarded messages as an attachment. If your e-mail program is one

> of these, you need to cut and paste the important stuff into a new message

> and send it to the list. Pictures are attachments and don't work eitehr.

>

> * Save the instructions that were sent with the listserver. Of course if

> you're reading this and forgot to save them, its too late. On one list I

> subscribe to, the list owner sends the instructions out once a month. Not

> sure who " owns " this list, but maybe that could be done.

>

> * Finally, if a person can't unsubscribe, or screws up their attempts, we

> seem to get several comments questioning their intelligence. Why do this?

> Here we go " eating our own " again. Not everyone is as computer literate as

> the next person. If the list owner can't help and unsubscribe the person,

> why not send them a clear set of instructions as to how to send the correct

> message. Just don't send it to the entire list (see first note). If the

> list sends out the instructions once a month, maybe we would limit this this

> type problem. Some other lists on YAHOO append the " unsubscribe " info onto

> the bottom of every message but the owner of the list would need to change

> the profile for that to happen.

>

> Just my $0.02, now back to lurker mode...

>

> Counts, MS, MEE, LP

> NS2 / Occupational Safety Team

> NASA - Space Center

> Houston, TX 77058

>

> Paramedic, Team Leader

> League City EMS

> League City, Texas

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Then quit laying down on the job Steve - and get busy. You're wasting someone's

time and money! LOL

Steve wrote:

> As I've said before, EMS Personnel don't have enough to do. When a simple

> message gets 100 replies, we're just not busy enough!

>

> " COUNTS, CHRISTOPHER A. (CHRIS) (JSC-XA) (NASA) " wrote:

>

> > There are several things that would decrease the number of daily messages

> > down to what is manageable and what is meaningful. I moderate/own three

> > lists and am a member of six others, all on Yahoo. Of all the lists, it

> > seems that this one has the most wasted bandwidth and, incidently, is the

> > only one where I have seen the recent repeated message problem (I have a few

> > thoughts about that, but thats for a different post). Here are a few ideas

> > how we can help ourselves.

> >

> > * If you want to encourage the writer with a " me too! " sentiment, make

> > certain that you respond to just the writer and not back to the listserver.

> > Frequently that means that you have to " cut and paste " the writer's e-mail

> > address into the " To: " section of your e-mail program and not just hit

> > " Reply To " . It's a bit harder but that way the sender gets your message and

> > if enough people respond, he/she can tally the comments and make ONE

> > response back to the listserver. If all you do is repeat the sender's

> > material, thats a " me too " note also. Unless you really have something

> > different to say, there is no reason to post. Its tough, but try hard to

> > control the urge to reply to every note.

> >

> > * Along these same lines there are frequently " conversations " between 2-3

> > people on the list. Remember about the " Reply To " in the above note and

> > make certain you are sending it to just the folks in the conversation.

> >

> > * If you need a phone number or address of a service or company, call

> > information or use one of the search engines. If you want more information

> > about a job posting, call the company or send a private e-mail (see first

> > note). The listserver should be a last resort for this type of thing.

> >

> > * If you screw up and send out a note accidentally, its too late, the damage

> > is done. Sending out an apology takes up more bandwidth and essentially

> > doubles the insult. If you insulted a person, service, or other entity in

> > your post, apologise to them directly. It will mean more to them. The rest

> > of us will only be reminded by your second post that you screwed up.

> >

> > * Don't cross-post unless the material you're cross-posting is really

> > important to Texas EMS. Even then, cut out the important stuff and minimize

> > the band width used. It may be hard to believe but a lot of folks are still

> > on 28.8K systems (I was on a 26.4K system for the last week).

> >

> > * Remember that attachments don't work on this list. Some e-mail programs

> > send out forwarded messages as an attachment. If your e-mail program is one

> > of these, you need to cut and paste the important stuff into a new message

> > and send it to the list. Pictures are attachments and don't work eitehr.

> >

> > * Save the instructions that were sent with the listserver. Of course if

> > you're reading this and forgot to save them, its too late. On one list I

> > subscribe to, the list owner sends the instructions out once a month. Not

> > sure who " owns " this list, but maybe that could be done.

> >

> > * Finally, if a person can't unsubscribe, or screws up their attempts, we

> > seem to get several comments questioning their intelligence. Why do this?

> > Here we go " eating our own " again. Not everyone is as computer literate as

> > the next person. If the list owner can't help and unsubscribe the person,

> > why not send them a clear set of instructions as to how to send the correct

> > message. Just don't send it to the entire list (see first note). If the

> > list sends out the instructions once a month, maybe we would limit this this

> > type problem. Some other lists on YAHOO append the " unsubscribe " info onto

> > the bottom of every message but the owner of the list would need to change

> > the profile for that to happen.

> >

> > Just my $0.02, now back to lurker mode...

> >

> > Counts, MS, MEE, LP

> > NS2 / Occupational Safety Team

> > NASA - Space Center

> > Houston, TX 77058

> >

> > Paramedic, Team Leader

> > League City EMS

> > League City, Texas

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Then quit laying down on the job Steve - and get busy. You're wasting someone's

time and money! LOL

Steve wrote:

> As I've said before, EMS Personnel don't have enough to do. When a simple

> message gets 100 replies, we're just not busy enough!

>

> " COUNTS, CHRISTOPHER A. (CHRIS) (JSC-XA) (NASA) " wrote:

>

> > There are several things that would decrease the number of daily messages

> > down to what is manageable and what is meaningful. I moderate/own three

> > lists and am a member of six others, all on Yahoo. Of all the lists, it

> > seems that this one has the most wasted bandwidth and, incidently, is the

> > only one where I have seen the recent repeated message problem (I have a few

> > thoughts about that, but thats for a different post). Here are a few ideas

> > how we can help ourselves.

> >

> > * If you want to encourage the writer with a " me too! " sentiment, make

> > certain that you respond to just the writer and not back to the listserver.

> > Frequently that means that you have to " cut and paste " the writer's e-mail

> > address into the " To: " section of your e-mail program and not just hit

> > " Reply To " . It's a bit harder but that way the sender gets your message and

> > if enough people respond, he/she can tally the comments and make ONE

> > response back to the listserver. If all you do is repeat the sender's

> > material, thats a " me too " note also. Unless you really have something

> > different to say, there is no reason to post. Its tough, but try hard to

> > control the urge to reply to every note.

> >

> > * Along these same lines there are frequently " conversations " between 2-3

> > people on the list. Remember about the " Reply To " in the above note and

> > make certain you are sending it to just the folks in the conversation.

> >

> > * If you need a phone number or address of a service or company, call

> > information or use one of the search engines. If you want more information

> > about a job posting, call the company or send a private e-mail (see first

> > note). The listserver should be a last resort for this type of thing.

> >

> > * If you screw up and send out a note accidentally, its too late, the damage

> > is done. Sending out an apology takes up more bandwidth and essentially

> > doubles the insult. If you insulted a person, service, or other entity in

> > your post, apologise to them directly. It will mean more to them. The rest

> > of us will only be reminded by your second post that you screwed up.

> >

> > * Don't cross-post unless the material you're cross-posting is really

> > important to Texas EMS. Even then, cut out the important stuff and minimize

> > the band width used. It may be hard to believe but a lot of folks are still

> > on 28.8K systems (I was on a 26.4K system for the last week).

> >

> > * Remember that attachments don't work on this list. Some e-mail programs

> > send out forwarded messages as an attachment. If your e-mail program is one

> > of these, you need to cut and paste the important stuff into a new message

> > and send it to the list. Pictures are attachments and don't work eitehr.

> >

> > * Save the instructions that were sent with the listserver. Of course if

> > you're reading this and forgot to save them, its too late. On one list I

> > subscribe to, the list owner sends the instructions out once a month. Not

> > sure who " owns " this list, but maybe that could be done.

> >

> > * Finally, if a person can't unsubscribe, or screws up their attempts, we

> > seem to get several comments questioning their intelligence. Why do this?

> > Here we go " eating our own " again. Not everyone is as computer literate as

> > the next person. If the list owner can't help and unsubscribe the person,

> > why not send them a clear set of instructions as to how to send the correct

> > message. Just don't send it to the entire list (see first note). If the

> > list sends out the instructions once a month, maybe we would limit this this

> > type problem. Some other lists on YAHOO append the " unsubscribe " info onto

> > the bottom of every message but the owner of the list would need to change

> > the profile for that to happen.

> >

> > Just my $0.02, now back to lurker mode...

> >

> > Counts, MS, MEE, LP

> > NS2 / Occupational Safety Team

> > NASA - Space Center

> > Houston, TX 77058

> >

> > Paramedic, Team Leader

> > League City EMS

> > League City, Texas

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Then quit laying down on the job Steve - and get busy. You're wasting someone's

time and money! LOL

Steve wrote:

> As I've said before, EMS Personnel don't have enough to do. When a simple

> message gets 100 replies, we're just not busy enough!

>

> " COUNTS, CHRISTOPHER A. (CHRIS) (JSC-XA) (NASA) " wrote:

>

> > There are several things that would decrease the number of daily messages

> > down to what is manageable and what is meaningful. I moderate/own three

> > lists and am a member of six others, all on Yahoo. Of all the lists, it

> > seems that this one has the most wasted bandwidth and, incidently, is the

> > only one where I have seen the recent repeated message problem (I have a few

> > thoughts about that, but thats for a different post). Here are a few ideas

> > how we can help ourselves.

> >

> > * If you want to encourage the writer with a " me too! " sentiment, make

> > certain that you respond to just the writer and not back to the listserver.

> > Frequently that means that you have to " cut and paste " the writer's e-mail

> > address into the " To: " section of your e-mail program and not just hit

> > " Reply To " . It's a bit harder but that way the sender gets your message and

> > if enough people respond, he/she can tally the comments and make ONE

> > response back to the listserver. If all you do is repeat the sender's

> > material, thats a " me too " note also. Unless you really have something

> > different to say, there is no reason to post. Its tough, but try hard to

> > control the urge to reply to every note.

> >

> > * Along these same lines there are frequently " conversations " between 2-3

> > people on the list. Remember about the " Reply To " in the above note and

> > make certain you are sending it to just the folks in the conversation.

> >

> > * If you need a phone number or address of a service or company, call

> > information or use one of the search engines. If you want more information

> > about a job posting, call the company or send a private e-mail (see first

> > note). The listserver should be a last resort for this type of thing.

> >

> > * If you screw up and send out a note accidentally, its too late, the damage

> > is done. Sending out an apology takes up more bandwidth and essentially

> > doubles the insult. If you insulted a person, service, or other entity in

> > your post, apologise to them directly. It will mean more to them. The rest

> > of us will only be reminded by your second post that you screwed up.

> >

> > * Don't cross-post unless the material you're cross-posting is really

> > important to Texas EMS. Even then, cut out the important stuff and minimize

> > the band width used. It may be hard to believe but a lot of folks are still

> > on 28.8K systems (I was on a 26.4K system for the last week).

> >

> > * Remember that attachments don't work on this list. Some e-mail programs

> > send out forwarded messages as an attachment. If your e-mail program is one

> > of these, you need to cut and paste the important stuff into a new message

> > and send it to the list. Pictures are attachments and don't work eitehr.

> >

> > * Save the instructions that were sent with the listserver. Of course if

> > you're reading this and forgot to save them, its too late. On one list I

> > subscribe to, the list owner sends the instructions out once a month. Not

> > sure who " owns " this list, but maybe that could be done.

> >

> > * Finally, if a person can't unsubscribe, or screws up their attempts, we

> > seem to get several comments questioning their intelligence. Why do this?

> > Here we go " eating our own " again. Not everyone is as computer literate as

> > the next person. If the list owner can't help and unsubscribe the person,

> > why not send them a clear set of instructions as to how to send the correct

> > message. Just don't send it to the entire list (see first note). If the

> > list sends out the instructions once a month, maybe we would limit this this

> > type problem. Some other lists on YAHOO append the " unsubscribe " info onto

> > the bottom of every message but the owner of the list would need to change

> > the profile for that to happen.

> >

> > Just my $0.02, now back to lurker mode...

> >

> > Counts, MS, MEE, LP

> > NS2 / Occupational Safety Team

> > NASA - Space Center

> > Houston, TX 77058

> >

> > Paramedic, Team Leader

> > League City EMS

> > League City, Texas

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

No one should ever post on a listserv as this is a waste of band width and I

am locked in to a 1mk connection most of the time.

Silsbee EMS

114 hwy 96 south

Silsbee, Tx 77656

Re: List Bandwidth, Yahoo, and some Ideas

> As I've said before, EMS Personnel don't have enough to do. When a simple

> message gets 100 replies, we're just not busy enough!

>

> " COUNTS, CHRISTOPHER A. (CHRIS) (JSC-XA) (NASA) " wrote:

>

> > There are several things that would decrease the number of daily

messages

> > down to what is manageable and what is meaningful. I moderate/own three

> > lists and am a member of six others, all on Yahoo. Of all the lists, it

> > seems that this one has the most wasted bandwidth and, incidently, is

the

> > only one where I have seen the recent repeated message problem (I have a

few

> > thoughts about that, but thats for a different post). Here are a few

ideas

> > how we can help ourselves.

> >

> > * If you want to encourage the writer with a " me too! " sentiment, make

> > certain that you respond to just the writer and not back to the

listserver.

> > Frequently that means that you have to " cut and paste " the writer's

e-mail

> > address into the " To: " section of your e-mail program and not just hit

> > " Reply To " . It's a bit harder but that way the sender gets your message

and

> > if enough people respond, he/she can tally the comments and make ONE

> > response back to the listserver. If all you do is repeat the sender's

> > material, thats a " me too " note also. Unless you really have something

> > different to say, there is no reason to post. Its tough, but try hard

to

> > control the urge to reply to every note.

> >

> > * Along these same lines there are frequently " conversations " between

2-3

> > people on the list. Remember about the " Reply To " in the above note and

> > make certain you are sending it to just the folks in the conversation.

> >

> > * If you need a phone number or address of a service or company, call

> > information or use one of the search engines. If you want more

information

> > about a job posting, call the company or send a private e-mail (see

first

> > note). The listserver should be a last resort for this type of thing.

> >

> > * If you screw up and send out a note accidentally, its too late, the

damage

> > is done. Sending out an apology takes up more bandwidth and essentially

> > doubles the insult. If you insulted a person, service, or other entity

in

> > your post, apologise to them directly. It will mean more to them. The

rest

> > of us will only be reminded by your second post that you screwed up.

> >

> > * Don't cross-post unless the material you're cross-posting is really

> > important to Texas EMS. Even then, cut out the important stuff and

minimize

> > the band width used. It may be hard to believe but a lot of folks are

still

> > on 28.8K systems (I was on a 26.4K system for the last week).

> >

> > * Remember that attachments don't work on this list. Some e-mail

programs

> > send out forwarded messages as an attachment. If your e-mail program is

one

> > of these, you need to cut and paste the important stuff into a new

message

> > and send it to the list. Pictures are attachments and don't work

eitehr.

> >

> > * Save the instructions that were sent with the listserver. Of course

if

> > you're reading this and forgot to save them, its too late. On one list

I

> > subscribe to, the list owner sends the instructions out once a month.

Not

> > sure who " owns " this list, but maybe that could be done.

> >

> > * Finally, if a person can't unsubscribe, or screws up their attempts,

we

> > seem to get several comments questioning their intelligence. Why do

this?

> > Here we go " eating our own " again. Not everyone is as computer literate

as

> > the next person. If the list owner can't help and unsubscribe the

person,

> > why not send them a clear set of instructions as to how to send the

correct

> > message. Just don't send it to the entire list (see first note). If

the

> > list sends out the instructions once a month, maybe we would limit this

this

> > type problem. Some other lists on YAHOO append the " unsubscribe " info

onto

> > the bottom of every message but the owner of the list would need to

change

> > the profile for that to happen.

> >

> > Just my $0.02, now back to lurker mode...

> >

> > Counts, MS, MEE, LP

> > NS2 / Occupational Safety Team

> > NASA - Space Center

> > Houston, TX 77058

> >

> > Paramedic, Team Leader

> > League City EMS

> > League City, Texas

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

No one should ever post on a listserv as this is a waste of band width and I

am locked in to a 1mk connection most of the time.

Silsbee EMS

114 hwy 96 south

Silsbee, Tx 77656

Re: List Bandwidth, Yahoo, and some Ideas

> As I've said before, EMS Personnel don't have enough to do. When a simple

> message gets 100 replies, we're just not busy enough!

>

> " COUNTS, CHRISTOPHER A. (CHRIS) (JSC-XA) (NASA) " wrote:

>

> > There are several things that would decrease the number of daily

messages

> > down to what is manageable and what is meaningful. I moderate/own three

> > lists and am a member of six others, all on Yahoo. Of all the lists, it

> > seems that this one has the most wasted bandwidth and, incidently, is

the

> > only one where I have seen the recent repeated message problem (I have a

few

> > thoughts about that, but thats for a different post). Here are a few

ideas

> > how we can help ourselves.

> >

> > * If you want to encourage the writer with a " me too! " sentiment, make

> > certain that you respond to just the writer and not back to the

listserver.

> > Frequently that means that you have to " cut and paste " the writer's

e-mail

> > address into the " To: " section of your e-mail program and not just hit

> > " Reply To " . It's a bit harder but that way the sender gets your message

and

> > if enough people respond, he/she can tally the comments and make ONE

> > response back to the listserver. If all you do is repeat the sender's

> > material, thats a " me too " note also. Unless you really have something

> > different to say, there is no reason to post. Its tough, but try hard

to

> > control the urge to reply to every note.

> >

> > * Along these same lines there are frequently " conversations " between

2-3

> > people on the list. Remember about the " Reply To " in the above note and

> > make certain you are sending it to just the folks in the conversation.

> >

> > * If you need a phone number or address of a service or company, call

> > information or use one of the search engines. If you want more

information

> > about a job posting, call the company or send a private e-mail (see

first

> > note). The listserver should be a last resort for this type of thing.

> >

> > * If you screw up and send out a note accidentally, its too late, the

damage

> > is done. Sending out an apology takes up more bandwidth and essentially

> > doubles the insult. If you insulted a person, service, or other entity

in

> > your post, apologise to them directly. It will mean more to them. The

rest

> > of us will only be reminded by your second post that you screwed up.

> >

> > * Don't cross-post unless the material you're cross-posting is really

> > important to Texas EMS. Even then, cut out the important stuff and

minimize

> > the band width used. It may be hard to believe but a lot of folks are

still

> > on 28.8K systems (I was on a 26.4K system for the last week).

> >

> > * Remember that attachments don't work on this list. Some e-mail

programs

> > send out forwarded messages as an attachment. If your e-mail program is

one

> > of these, you need to cut and paste the important stuff into a new

message

> > and send it to the list. Pictures are attachments and don't work

eitehr.

> >

> > * Save the instructions that were sent with the listserver. Of course

if

> > you're reading this and forgot to save them, its too late. On one list

I

> > subscribe to, the list owner sends the instructions out once a month.

Not

> > sure who " owns " this list, but maybe that could be done.

> >

> > * Finally, if a person can't unsubscribe, or screws up their attempts,

we

> > seem to get several comments questioning their intelligence. Why do

this?

> > Here we go " eating our own " again. Not everyone is as computer literate

as

> > the next person. If the list owner can't help and unsubscribe the

person,

> > why not send them a clear set of instructions as to how to send the

correct

> > message. Just don't send it to the entire list (see first note). If

the

> > list sends out the instructions once a month, maybe we would limit this

this

> > type problem. Some other lists on YAHOO append the " unsubscribe " info

onto

> > the bottom of every message but the owner of the list would need to

change

> > the profile for that to happen.

> >

> > Just my $0.02, now back to lurker mode...

> >

> > Counts, MS, MEE, LP

> > NS2 / Occupational Safety Team

> > NASA - Space Center

> > Houston, TX 77058

> >

> > Paramedic, Team Leader

> > League City EMS

> > League City, Texas

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >