Re: Anonymous Groups (AA, OA)

[Guest guest]

I second that Alana! I think the 12 step groups provide a good start

and strong support foundation but I found these lacking in just the

way you stated - 'incomplete' treatment. I used to say that I had

'graduated' from the one I attended (Al-Anon) but that upset too many

who find the 12 steps enough for them. YEA IE!! ehugs, Katcha

>

> I hope I don't offend anyone with what I'm about to say as I know

> these groups do help a lot of people. But I was talking with a girl

> friend this weekend that I hadn't spoken with for a few months and she

> was sharing with me how she had gotten a DUI and was going to

> Alcoholics Anonymous. One thing she talked about was how since she

> had quit drinking and smoking she was batteling all these other

> addictions: shopping, sugar, caffeine etc. My thought was how

> grateful I am for IE in that we often explore the WHY we over eat and

> have certain food addictions and the such. In my experience with

> Overteaters Anonymous, they are so great and treating the symptoms but

> don't deal with the WHY. You really can't get to the root of the

> problem unless your explore they why behind it. Thank goodness for IE

> and this group!

> Alana

>

[Guest guest]

I second that Alana! I think the 12 step groups provide a good start

and strong support foundation but I found these lacking in just the

way you stated - 'incomplete' treatment. I used to say that I had

'graduated' from the one I attended (Al-Anon) but that upset too many

who find the 12 steps enough for them. YEA IE!! ehugs, Katcha

>

> I hope I don't offend anyone with what I'm about to say as I know

> these groups do help a lot of people. But I was talking with a girl

> friend this weekend that I hadn't spoken with for a few months and she

> was sharing with me how she had gotten a DUI and was going to

> Alcoholics Anonymous. One thing she talked about was how since she

> had quit drinking and smoking she was batteling all these other

> addictions: shopping, sugar, caffeine etc. My thought was how

> grateful I am for IE in that we often explore the WHY we over eat and

> have certain food addictions and the such. In my experience with

> Overteaters Anonymous, they are so great and treating the symptoms but

> don't deal with the WHY. You really can't get to the root of the

> problem unless your explore they why behind it. Thank goodness for IE

> and this group!

> Alana

>

[Guest guest]

I too do not want to step on any toes, but I feel like my overeating is not an

addiction. I am

not powerless. (Although some may contend we are without God.)

I CHOOSE to overeat, even though sometimes it doesn't feel like a choice...

sometimes I feel

like a slave to it, but ultimately we can learn to tune into our bodies, slow

down, and conquer

the impulse control issues. And yes, we can get curious about these feelings.

But the OO support is great.

Thanks for being my " OO " .

[Guest guest]

I too do not want to step on any toes, but I feel like my overeating is not an

addiction. I am

not powerless. (Although some may contend we are without God.)

I CHOOSE to overeat, even though sometimes it doesn't feel like a choice...

sometimes I feel

like a slave to it, but ultimately we can learn to tune into our bodies, slow

down, and conquer

the impulse control issues. And yes, we can get curious about these feelings.

But the OO support is great.

Thanks for being my " OO " .

[Guest guest]

I spent many, many years in OA totally frustrated because I couldn't

get it right, I would go for days, weeks without eating sugar or

white flour and then give in to the cravings, only to binge

because " I was a failure, couldn't do anything right " I am still

detoxing from the program and very new to IE so I am very scared. I

know that diets don't work but not having any " boundaries " is

terrifying. I am making progress however and I know it's going to be

slow. I'm eating alot of sugar right now since that was my " bad

food " and feel pretry lousy which in turn screws up my thinking but

I'm going to keep pluggin away..

>

> I hope I don't offend anyone with what I'm about to say as I know

> these groups do help a lot of people. But I was talking with a

girl

> friend this weekend that I hadn't spoken with for a few months and

she

> was sharing with me how she had gotten a DUI and was going to

> Alcoholics Anonymous. One thing she talked about was how since she

> had quit drinking and smoking she was batteling all these other

> addictions: shopping, sugar, caffeine etc. My thought was how

> grateful I am for IE in that we often explore the WHY we over eat

and

> have certain food addictions and the such. In my experience with

> Overteaters Anonymous, they are so great and treating the symptoms

but

> don't deal with the WHY. You really can't get to the root of the

> problem unless your explore they why behind it. Thank goodness for

IE

> and this group!

> Alana

>

[Guest guest]

I spent many, many years in OA totally frustrated because I couldn't

get it right, I would go for days, weeks without eating sugar or

white flour and then give in to the cravings, only to binge

because " I was a failure, couldn't do anything right " I am still

detoxing from the program and very new to IE so I am very scared. I

know that diets don't work but not having any " boundaries " is

terrifying. I am making progress however and I know it's going to be

slow. I'm eating alot of sugar right now since that was my " bad

food " and feel pretry lousy which in turn screws up my thinking but

I'm going to keep pluggin away..

>

> I hope I don't offend anyone with what I'm about to say as I know

> these groups do help a lot of people. But I was talking with a

girl

> friend this weekend that I hadn't spoken with for a few months and

she

> was sharing with me how she had gotten a DUI and was going to

> Alcoholics Anonymous. One thing she talked about was how since she

> had quit drinking and smoking she was batteling all these other

> addictions: shopping, sugar, caffeine etc. My thought was how

> grateful I am for IE in that we often explore the WHY we over eat

and

> have certain food addictions and the such. In my experience with

> Overteaters Anonymous, they are so great and treating the symptoms

but

> don't deal with the WHY. You really can't get to the root of the

> problem unless your explore they why behind it. Thank goodness for

IE

> and this group!

> Alana

>

[Guest guest]

I spent many, many years in OA totally frustrated because I couldn't

get it right, I would go for days, weeks without eating sugar or

white flour and then give in to the cravings, only to binge

because " I was a failure, couldn't do anything right " I am still

detoxing from the program and very new to IE so I am very scared. I

know that diets don't work but not having any " boundaries " is

terrifying. I am making progress however and I know it's going to be

slow. I'm eating alot of sugar right now since that was my " bad

food " and feel pretry lousy which in turn screws up my thinking but

I'm going to keep pluggin away..

>

> I hope I don't offend anyone with what I'm about to say as I know

> these groups do help a lot of people. But I was talking with a

girl

> friend this weekend that I hadn't spoken with for a few months and

she

> was sharing with me how she had gotten a DUI and was going to

> Alcoholics Anonymous. One thing she talked about was how since she

> had quit drinking and smoking she was batteling all these other

> addictions: shopping, sugar, caffeine etc. My thought was how

> grateful I am for IE in that we often explore the WHY we over eat

and

> have certain food addictions and the such. In my experience with

> Overteaters Anonymous, they are so great and treating the symptoms

but

> don't deal with the WHY. You really can't get to the root of the

> problem unless your explore they why behind it. Thank goodness for

IE

> and this group!

> Alana

>

[Guest guest]

tripp4thgrade wrote:

> I CHOOSE to overeat, even though sometimes it doesn't feel like a

> choice... sometimes I feel like a slave to it

I don't see how that is different to other addictions.

(Er, I fear this will trigger another addiction vs. non-addiction

thread.)

Regards

s.

[Guest guest]

tripp4thgrade wrote:

> I CHOOSE to overeat, even though sometimes it doesn't feel like a

> choice... sometimes I feel like a slave to it

I don't see how that is different to other addictions.

(Er, I fear this will trigger another addiction vs. non-addiction

thread.)

Regards

s.

[Guest guest]

, perhaps one of the difficulties you are having with

'boundaries' is that you still are looking for 'external' ones? And

even when we try to look at our internal limits, its easy to not be

able to sense these due to having ignored these in the past? I ate

lots of 'goodies' (especially chocolate!) when I started IE and it

does take time for your body and 'head' to tell you, OK, that's ENOUGH

of that! (like yuck!) Just do what IE makes sense to you as you feel

you can to that. Baby steps do add up to the IE journey

Best to you - Katcha

>

> I spent many, many years in OA totally frustrated because I couldn't

> get it right, I would go for days, weeks without eating sugar or

> white flour and then give in to the cravings, only to binge

> because " I was a failure, couldn't do anything right " I am still

> detoxing from the program and very new to IE so I am very scared. I

> know that diets don't work but not having any " boundaries " is

> terrifying. I am making progress however and I know it's going to be

> slow. I'm eating alot of sugar right now since that was my " bad

> food " and feel pretry lousy which in turn screws up my thinking but

> I'm going to keep pluggin away..

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, perhaps one of the difficulties you are having with

'boundaries' is that you still are looking for 'external' ones? And

even when we try to look at our internal limits, its easy to not be

able to sense these due to having ignored these in the past? I ate

lots of 'goodies' (especially chocolate!) when I started IE and it

does take time for your body and 'head' to tell you, OK, that's ENOUGH

of that! (like yuck!) Just do what IE makes sense to you as you feel

you can to that. Baby steps do add up to the IE journey

Best to you - Katcha

>

> I spent many, many years in OA totally frustrated because I couldn't

> get it right, I would go for days, weeks without eating sugar or

> white flour and then give in to the cravings, only to binge

> because " I was a failure, couldn't do anything right " I am still

> detoxing from the program and very new to IE so I am very scared. I

> know that diets don't work but not having any " boundaries " is

> terrifying. I am making progress however and I know it's going to be

> slow. I'm eating alot of sugar right now since that was my " bad

> food " and feel pretry lousy which in turn screws up my thinking but

> I'm going to keep pluggin away..

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Why not start one up? I started to do that and it would have been easy

enough! The only reason I didn't follow thru was that 1) I didn't want

to have to 'go' to a place at a set time etc. and 2) I had this group

24/7 which I prefer But that's me. - Katcha

PS I attended in person dysfunctional family groups for some time and

found those very helpful with dealing with emotional issues.

>

> I would rather go to a face-to-face IE meeting, but since there are

> none in my area, I will get what I can out of OA. :-)

>

[Guest guest]

july651 wrote:

> I would rather go to a face-to-face IE meeting, but since there are

> none in my area, I will get what I can out of OA. :-)

Wouldn't it be nice to have one? :-))

Regards

s.