Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 HI YOU, we've missed you. Are you OK ? how are you feeling? Tell us where you've been. You know you are not allowed to just stop reporting in.. Good Grief what were you thinking,???Nice to see a post. Love and Prayers, PeggyHave a God Blessed Day Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please repeat it. Itried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in my sleepbut it didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Peggy That was over 25 words and was questions only...lol I've been busy trying to decide on a vehicle and make a purchase, while researching lift combinations with vehicles and also figuring what chairs will work with what lifts with what vehicles. This has physically tired me, but mentally and emotionally exhausted me. I do not deal with the stress of such decisions well. That's a residual of my mental illness problems and day to day I'm fine, but throw major decisions or road blocks at me and it takes everything I have. And, at every step, things got more complicated. I wanted to avoid a van. So, found relatively small SUV's that would " work " . Well, almost. Even found some that the lift manufacturers had lifts for. Oh, just a couple of problems. I knew you'd have to remove the second row of seats and that wasn't too bad. But, where they had units that would work with only 30 inches of headroom and door clearance and the SUV's had 32 1/2 inches, there are no chairs that are under 34 inches in height. So, what good is the lift for which there is no chair? Then what about a short wheel base van? Well, almost. So, finally I did it. Still not without some issues remaining, but better now. Now, I also did my tax return during the week. Didn't turn out quite as bad as I expected but was complicated as got money for 2006 during 2007 from social security and gave it back to insurer so special provisions apply both for the social security and the give back requiring calculation of return many ways and even recalculating 2006 based on what-if's to compare. Now, the relief was, after all was said and done, turned out decently thanks to spending over $15,000 on medical care during the year. How am I feeling. Exhausted, but ok. Have counselor Monday too and looking forward to her especially this week. Still not prepared for Chicago trip. May have to delay. And, suppose to see UTSW transplant people on the 15th. Lots of things on my list so going to relax over the weekend, prioritize, and start back on Monday. Meanwhile, glad I'm getting all these things done as physically I am declining more rapidly than I'd like to admit. Now, its also complicated by horrible allergens right now in this area and heavy congestion. Actually, did some comparisons yesterday just to be sure where I stand and what needs addressing. I'm definitely requiring more oxygen anytime I'm moving around the apartment and more on treadmill. The other thing I checked more scientifically on treadmill to see if what I thought was factually supported was my breathing using the pulse portable Helios. I am going to have to make a change there as 4 lpm on pulse isn't enough and requires me to slow down. I found that on 4 lpm continuous liquid versus 4 lpm pulse Helios last night at the same speed on the treadmill, my sats were lower by 4-5% on the Helios. No one panic, I didn't let it go below 90 before slowing down. So, going to have to get another portable with higher continuous, higher pulse or both. I'm of the opinion that a pulse such as Helios just won't work well for me when highly congested as I don't exhale and inhale well enough to keep the oxygen coming at the pace I need. So, probably heading to the Companion1000, so 8 pounds to carry versus 3.6. I've missed you all, but I just didn't have any energy left to even come read, much less post. Once I'd sit down, to sleep I'd fall. Of course then that means lousy sleep at night...lol > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please repeat it. I > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in my sleep > but it didn't work. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Bruce...oh I do not want to hear you are declining! A huge "DAMNIT!". You seem to be good about monitoring yourself, please keep it up.Rest and refresh yourself. I've missed you but want more stability and if you can't post as much, then so be it. I'll call you! Mama-Sher, age 69. IPF 3-06, OR. Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: Catch me up in 25 words or less..... PeggyThat was over 25 words and was questions only...lolI've been busy trying to decide on a vehicle and make a purchase, whileresearching lift combinations with vehicles and also figuring whatchairs will work with what lifts with what vehicles.This has physically tired me, but mentally and emotionally exhausted me.I do not deal with the stress of such decisions well. That's a residualof my mental illness problems and day to day I'm fine, but throw majordecisions or road blocks at me and it takes everything I have. And, atevery step, things got more complicated. I wanted to avoid a van. So,found relatively small SUV's that would "work". Well, almost. Even foundsome that the lift manufacturers had lifts for. Oh, just a couple ofproblems. I knew you'd have to remove the second row of seats and thatwasn't too bad. But, where they had units that would work with only 30inches of headroom and door clearance and the SUV's had 32 1/2 inches,there are no chairs that are under 34 inches in height. So, what good isthe lift for which there is no chair? Then what about a short wheel basevan? Well, almost. So, finally I did it. Still not without some issuesremaining, but better now.Now, I also did my tax return during the week. Didn't turn out quite asbad as I expected but was complicated as got money for 2006 during 2007from social security and gave it back to insurer so special provisionsapply both for the social security and the give back requiringcalculation of return many ways and even recalculating 2006 based onwhat-if's to compare. Now, the relief was, after all was said and done,turned out decently thanks to spending over $15,000 on medical careduring the year.How am I feeling. Exhausted, but ok. Have counselor Monday too andlooking forward to her especially this week. Still not prepared forChicago trip. May have to delay. And, suppose to see UTSW transplantpeople on the 15th. Lots of things on my list so going to relax over theweekend, prioritize, and start back on Monday.Meanwhile, glad I'm getting all these things done as physically I amdeclining more rapidly than I'd like to admit. Now, its also complicatedby horrible allergens right now in this area and heavy congestion.Actually, did some comparisons yesterday just to be sure where I standand what needs addressing. I'm definitely requiring more oxygen anytimeI'm moving around the apartment and more on treadmill. The other thing Ichecked more scientifically on treadmill to see if what I thought wasfactually supported was my breathing using the pulse portable Helios. Iam going to have to make a change there as 4 lpm on pulse isn't enoughand requires me to slow down. I found that on 4 lpm continuous liquidversus 4 lpm pulse Helios last night at the same speed on the treadmill,my sats were lower by 4-5% on the Helios. No one panic, I didn't let itgo below 90 before slowing down. So, going to have to get anotherportable with higher continuous, higher pulse or both. I'm of theopinion that a pulse such as Helios just won't work well for me whenhighly congested as I don't exhale and inhale well enough to keep theoxygen coming at the pace I need. So, probably heading to theCompanion1000, so 8 pounds to carry versus 3.6.I've missed you all, but I just didn't have any energy left to even comeread, much less post. Once I'd sit down, to sleep I'd fall. Of coursethen that means lousy sleep at night...lol>> Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please repeat it.I> tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in mysleep> but it didn't work.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Sher Well, decline is to be expected with my form of the disease, so its something I've anticipated. I just need to adjust equipment a bit to take care of the increased needs. > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please repeat it. > I > > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in my > sleep > > but it didn't work. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Sher Well, decline is to be expected with my form of the disease, so its something I've anticipated. I just need to adjust equipment a bit to take care of the increased needs. > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please repeat it. > I > > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in my > sleep > > but it didn't work. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Hi Bruce, I'm sure in time, you'll choose the right car for you! I Hope you'll get to go to Chicago...I know how much you were looking forward to it! Keep saying to yourself, you'll go! Irene ---- Original Message ---- To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 7:02 pm Subject: Re: Catch me up in 25 words or less..... Sher Well, decline is to be expected with my form of the disease, so its something I've anticipated. I just need to adjust equipment a bit to take care of the increased needs. > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please repeat it. > I > > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in my > sleep > > but it didn't work. > > > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment – with a Canadian perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Hi Bruce, I'm sure in time, you'll choose the right car for you! I Hope you'll get to go to Chicago...I know how much you were looking forward to it! Keep saying to yourself, you'll go! Irene ---- Original Message ---- To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 7:02 pm Subject: Re: Catch me up in 25 words or less..... Sher Well, decline is to be expected with my form of the disease, so its something I've anticipated. I just need to adjust equipment a bit to take care of the increased needs. > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please repeat it. > I > > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in my > sleep > > but it didn't work. > > > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment – with a Canadian perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 -Hi, glad you are back , missed you alot -- In Breathe-Support , Peggy wrote: > > HI YOU, we've missed you. Are you OK ? how are you feeling? Tell us > where you've been. You know you are not allowed to just stop > reporting in.. Good Grief what were you thinking,??? > Nice to see a post. > > > Love and Prayers, Peggy > Have a God Blessed Day > > > > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please repeat it. I > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in my sleep > but it didn't work. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 -Bruce your comment on pulse POC is timely, we are finally going in for the POC and i was still convincing my husband that only pulse would do fine instead of pulse and cotinuous , beause of cost considerations but my husband is going for the continuos, what do you say?you have keep in mind my flight requirements too Geeta -- In Breathe-Support , " Bruce Moreland " wrote: > > > Peggy > > That was over 25 words and was questions only...lol > > I've been busy trying to decide on a vehicle and make a purchase, while > researching lift combinations with vehicles and also figuring what > chairs will work with what lifts with what vehicles. > > This has physically tired me, but mentally and emotionally exhausted me. > I do not deal with the stress of such decisions well. That's a residual > of my mental illness problems and day to day I'm fine, but throw major > decisions or road blocks at me and it takes everything I have. And, at > every step, things got more complicated. I wanted to avoid a van. So, > found relatively small SUV's that would " work " . Well, almost. Even found > some that the lift manufacturers had lifts for. Oh, just a couple of > problems. I knew you'd have to remove the second row of seats and that > wasn't too bad. But, where they had units that would work with only 30 > inches of headroom and door clearance and the SUV's had 32 1/2 inches, > there are no chairs that are under 34 inches in height. So, what good is > the lift for which there is no chair? Then what about a short wheel base > van? Well, almost. So, finally I did it. Still not without some issues > remaining, but better now. > > Now, I also did my tax return during the week. Didn't turn out quite as > bad as I expected but was complicated as got money for 2006 during 2007 > from social security and gave it back to insurer so special provisions > apply both for the social security and the give back requiring > calculation of return many ways and even recalculating 2006 based on > what-if's to compare. Now, the relief was, after all was said and done, > turned out decently thanks to spending over $15,000 on medical care > during the year. > > How am I feeling. Exhausted, but ok. Have counselor Monday too and > looking forward to her especially this week. Still not prepared for > Chicago trip. May have to delay. And, suppose to see UTSW transplant > people on the 15th. Lots of things on my list so going to relax over the > weekend, prioritize, and start back on Monday. > > Meanwhile, glad I'm getting all these things done as physically I am > declining more rapidly than I'd like to admit. Now, its also complicated > by horrible allergens right now in this area and heavy congestion. > Actually, did some comparisons yesterday just to be sure where I stand > and what needs addressing. I'm definitely requiring more oxygen anytime > I'm moving around the apartment and more on treadmill. The other thing I > checked more scientifically on treadmill to see if what I thought was > factually supported was my breathing using the pulse portable Helios. I > am going to have to make a change there as 4 lpm on pulse isn't enough > and requires me to slow down. I found that on 4 lpm continuous liquid > versus 4 lpm pulse Helios last night at the same speed on the treadmill, > my sats were lower by 4-5% on the Helios. No one panic, I didn't let it > go below 90 before slowing down. So, going to have to get another > portable with higher continuous, higher pulse or both. I'm of the > opinion that a pulse such as Helios just won't work well for me when > highly congested as I don't exhale and inhale well enough to keep the > oxygen coming at the pace I need. So, probably heading to the > Companion1000, so 8 pounds to carry versus 3.6. > > I've missed you all, but I just didn't have any energy left to even come > read, much less post. Once I'd sit down, to sleep I'd fall. Of course > then that means lousy sleep at night...lol > > > > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please repeat it. > I > > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in my > sleep > > but it didn't work. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 -Bruce your comment on pulse POC is timely, we are finally going in for the POC and i was still convincing my husband that only pulse would do fine instead of pulse and cotinuous , beause of cost considerations but my husband is going for the continuos, what do you say?you have keep in mind my flight requirements too Geeta -- In Breathe-Support , " Bruce Moreland " wrote: > > > Peggy > > That was over 25 words and was questions only...lol > > I've been busy trying to decide on a vehicle and make a purchase, while > researching lift combinations with vehicles and also figuring what > chairs will work with what lifts with what vehicles. > > This has physically tired me, but mentally and emotionally exhausted me. > I do not deal with the stress of such decisions well. That's a residual > of my mental illness problems and day to day I'm fine, but throw major > decisions or road blocks at me and it takes everything I have. And, at > every step, things got more complicated. I wanted to avoid a van. So, > found relatively small SUV's that would " work " . Well, almost. Even found > some that the lift manufacturers had lifts for. Oh, just a couple of > problems. I knew you'd have to remove the second row of seats and that > wasn't too bad. But, where they had units that would work with only 30 > inches of headroom and door clearance and the SUV's had 32 1/2 inches, > there are no chairs that are under 34 inches in height. So, what good is > the lift for which there is no chair? Then what about a short wheel base > van? Well, almost. So, finally I did it. Still not without some issues > remaining, but better now. > > Now, I also did my tax return during the week. Didn't turn out quite as > bad as I expected but was complicated as got money for 2006 during 2007 > from social security and gave it back to insurer so special provisions > apply both for the social security and the give back requiring > calculation of return many ways and even recalculating 2006 based on > what-if's to compare. Now, the relief was, after all was said and done, > turned out decently thanks to spending over $15,000 on medical care > during the year. > > How am I feeling. Exhausted, but ok. Have counselor Monday too and > looking forward to her especially this week. Still not prepared for > Chicago trip. May have to delay. And, suppose to see UTSW transplant > people on the 15th. Lots of things on my list so going to relax over the > weekend, prioritize, and start back on Monday. > > Meanwhile, glad I'm getting all these things done as physically I am > declining more rapidly than I'd like to admit. Now, its also complicated > by horrible allergens right now in this area and heavy congestion. > Actually, did some comparisons yesterday just to be sure where I stand > and what needs addressing. I'm definitely requiring more oxygen anytime > I'm moving around the apartment and more on treadmill. The other thing I > checked more scientifically on treadmill to see if what I thought was > factually supported was my breathing using the pulse portable Helios. I > am going to have to make a change there as 4 lpm on pulse isn't enough > and requires me to slow down. I found that on 4 lpm continuous liquid > versus 4 lpm pulse Helios last night at the same speed on the treadmill, > my sats were lower by 4-5% on the Helios. No one panic, I didn't let it > go below 90 before slowing down. So, going to have to get another > portable with higher continuous, higher pulse or both. I'm of the > opinion that a pulse such as Helios just won't work well for me when > highly congested as I don't exhale and inhale well enough to keep the > oxygen coming at the pace I need. So, probably heading to the > Companion1000, so 8 pounds to carry versus 3.6. > > I've missed you all, but I just didn't have any energy left to even come > read, much less post. Once I'd sit down, to sleep I'd fall. Of course > then that means lousy sleep at night...lol > > > > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please repeat it. > I > > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in my > sleep > > but it didn't work. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 If pulse works effectively for you, it has significant advantages. It does work effectively for most people who are at relatively low liter flows and some with higher flows. Also, each pulse machine and method is a little different. So, don't take my experience to be yours. Just take it as advice that if you're normally on continuous do not assume the same liter flow of pulse will give the same saturation. It may or may not. I think my problems center around both my congestion and the number of breaths per minute I take (not enough sometimes). Also, because of the suggestion I often breath through my mouth which, of course, does nothing to initiate a pulse flow on a Helios tank. Do keep one thing in mind too and that is you will need more liter flow on a plane than sitting at home because of the altitude. With the length of your flights, I don't see how you're going to have a choice but to use the airlines oxygen on the plane and your portable concentrator on the ground during layovers. > > > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please > repeat it. > > I > > > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in > my > > sleep > > > but it didn't work. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 If pulse works effectively for you, it has significant advantages. It does work effectively for most people who are at relatively low liter flows and some with higher flows. Also, each pulse machine and method is a little different. So, don't take my experience to be yours. Just take it as advice that if you're normally on continuous do not assume the same liter flow of pulse will give the same saturation. It may or may not. I think my problems center around both my congestion and the number of breaths per minute I take (not enough sometimes). Also, because of the suggestion I often breath through my mouth which, of course, does nothing to initiate a pulse flow on a Helios tank. Do keep one thing in mind too and that is you will need more liter flow on a plane than sitting at home because of the altitude. With the length of your flights, I don't see how you're going to have a choice but to use the airlines oxygen on the plane and your portable concentrator on the ground during layovers. > > > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please > repeat it. > > I > > > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in > my > > sleep > > > but it didn't work. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Dear Mr. Moreland: We note your advice. The salesman carried out experiments with his Ecclipse m/c. Max. saturation in continuous mode @ 2 lpm was 96%, Which dropped to91% lpm on exertion.In pulse mode @ 3 lpm, the saturation was same as for continuos flow @ 2 lpm, which dropped to 88 % on exertion.Do you think that these are significant differences?. Secondly we have a continuous at home and we are home bound most of the time. Airlines do not allow use of our m/c hence pulse or continuous doesnt matter.Armed with the m/c we plan to go on drives lasting for 4 hours or more even railway for 24 hours with 110 DC supply.I wonder whether it would amount to exertion for her.PLs. let us have your take. Best regards Vasudev --- In Breathe-Support , " Bruce Moreland " wrote: > > > > If pulse works effectively for you, it has significant advantages. It > does work effectively for most people who are at relatively low liter > flows and some with higher flows. Also, each pulse machine and method is > a little different. So, don't take my experience to be yours. Just take > it as advice that if you're normally on continuous do not assume the > same liter flow of pulse will give the same saturation. It may or may > not. I think my problems center around both my congestion and the number > of breaths per minute I take (not enough sometimes). Also, because of > the suggestion I often breath through my mouth which, of course, does > nothing to initiate a pulse flow on a Helios tank. Do keep one thing in > mind too and that is you will need more liter flow on a plane than > sitting at home because of the altitude. > > With the length of your flights, I don't see how you're going to have a > choice but to use the airlines oxygen on the plane and your portable > concentrator on the ground during layovers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please > > repeat it. > > > I > > > > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in > > my > > > sleep > > > > but it didn't work. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Dear Mr. Moreland: We note your advice. The salesman carried out experiments with his Ecclipse m/c. Max. saturation in continuous mode @ 2 lpm was 96%, Which dropped to91% lpm on exertion.In pulse mode @ 3 lpm, the saturation was same as for continuos flow @ 2 lpm, which dropped to 88 % on exertion.Do you think that these are significant differences?. Secondly we have a continuous at home and we are home bound most of the time. Airlines do not allow use of our m/c hence pulse or continuous doesnt matter.Armed with the m/c we plan to go on drives lasting for 4 hours or more even railway for 24 hours with 110 DC supply.I wonder whether it would amount to exertion for her.PLs. let us have your take. Best regards Vasudev --- In Breathe-Support , " Bruce Moreland " wrote: > > > > If pulse works effectively for you, it has significant advantages. It > does work effectively for most people who are at relatively low liter > flows and some with higher flows. Also, each pulse machine and method is > a little different. So, don't take my experience to be yours. Just take > it as advice that if you're normally on continuous do not assume the > same liter flow of pulse will give the same saturation. It may or may > not. I think my problems center around both my congestion and the number > of breaths per minute I take (not enough sometimes). Also, because of > the suggestion I often breath through my mouth which, of course, does > nothing to initiate a pulse flow on a Helios tank. Do keep one thing in > mind too and that is you will need more liter flow on a plane than > sitting at home because of the altitude. > > With the length of your flights, I don't see how you're going to have a > choice but to use the airlines oxygen on the plane and your portable > concentrator on the ground during layovers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please > > repeat it. > > > I > > > > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here in > > my > > > sleep > > > > but it didn't work. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 I think what you experienced is probably not far from typical. You require it seems either 1 or 2 lpm more at pulse than at continuous. Now the good news is that the Eclipse does go to 3 lpm on continuous and 6 lpm on pulse so, for now, it would seem you could get the levels you need to stay saturated. Where you have current you should be ok. The big advantage of the Eclipse is that is has both continuous and pulse whereas the Inogen One only has pulse. The extent of drives won't make any difference since you'll have it plugged into the car. It should come with an auto adapter. Get plenty of batteries and a charger. Now make sure you bring many copies of your prescription in case it were to have problems in the US and you had to rent something. Last, I don't think most airlines will let you depend on their power even though they might let you use it. So they may require you have enough battery power if they had no power, which you can't on a long flight, so do check. If thats the case you'll have to give in to using their oxygen on the flight itself. Last, I don't know if you use humidification but you can do so with the Eclipse. Based on what I know, if I were getting a travel concentrator, the Eclipse would definitely be my choice. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, If I've missed responding to any question to me, please > > > repeat it. > > > > I > > > > > tried to use mental telepathy to catch up on everything here > in > > > my > > > > sleep > > > > > but it didn't work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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