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No, its not just you - I have Pants Encounters too. I WAS 5' 4 1/2 " ,

but with aging have found that I have shrank (settled to?!? lol) 5' 3

3/4 " . And if that isn't unhappy making enough, I am SHORT legged for

my height as well as more 'ample' in the rear and some tummy area too.

I've been content to wear cheap (like $5!?!) slip on type pants which

are more comfortable than my usual jeans. But the elastic waist pants

are really too generous in the front and not enough in the rear.

Soooooooo I dug out a booklet I had buried in my sewing pattern area

and with the aide of the plastic curve finder tool (for crotch seam

shape) I am going to make ME a pattern to fit this body of mine. And

one of the bonuses is that there will be NO SIZE on these pants, they

will just fit ME.

I've always sewn most of my clothes, except when I could find them

cheaper than I could bother for. Yet I am looking forward to the

choice of fabric and color more to my liking as well. Now if only I

could find another person who sews so that we could make patterns by

assisting each other, then I wouldn't even know the 'measurements' and

not start the " I'm THAT big?!? " thinking that may happen as I do this

;-) Luckily IE has sunk into me enough that I'm not really sweating

that either.

Katcha

>

> First, is it just me or are fat women not really allowed to wear

> shorts? Alternatively, plus size women should all be 5'10 " or taller,

> because while shopping today " shorts " come to the bottom of my calf

> muscle and capris fell to my ankles. I am 5'5 " with long legs for my

> height, and I think I will have to hem the shorts 5-6 " to get them 1.5

> inches above my knee! I never needed petite clothing in regular

> sizes, but petite plus sizes are 2-3 inches longer than regular

> petites! I guess when you grow out you are supposed to grow up?

>

> Second, this has been a hard milestone for me. A lot of friends and

> family members ask me for clothing advice, which I freely offer. But

> when it comes to myself, I've been very guilty of buying clothing to

> shrink into. The probable height of my stupidity was switching from

> 20 Petite to 20 to 20 Tall in order to avoid size 22 pants. I was

> wearing 20T jeans for almost 6 months, tripping over the hem and

> having them dig painfully into my waist. I now know that I probably

> needed 24P at that time!

>

> Anyway, today I actually tried on every pair of pants and kept going,

> checking fit and appearance, until I had as many pairs as I could

> afford. That's something I haven't done, ever. Even at my lowest

> weight I could barely stand to try on pants in a dressing room because

> I hated the way my body looked. It isn't the clothing's fault that I

> have/had trouble accepting my size! But I certainly took it out on

> myself by continuing to buy clothing a shade too small (or smaller)

> and promising myself I would diet/exercise into them soon. Second, I

> didn't make excuses for ugly clothing just because it fit. I know

> this is probably the dumbest thing on earth, but if you are scrounging

> through clearance clothing and you are looking at the largest size

> they carry... it's easy to excuse glaring flaws in cut, color, fabric

> or construction just because you want to be done and out of there!

>

> I think I committed all these awful fashion crimes for so long because

> I didn't think I deserved better, and because I thought if I gave in

> to the next size up I would keep expanding forever. Both things are

> silly and hurtful nonsense, and I'm proud that today was my first step

> away from that.

>

> Life is just too short to live and dress like that, no matter what

> size you wear!

>

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Hear Hear!

I agree totally with what you say. I was just happy that a couple of years ago I noticed that Lane and Avenue did carry petites for plus sizes. Being 5'4" there regular size pants were way too long. I like Lane new type of pants with the color coding. The blue color ones finally fit my body the way I need. Unfortunately not all of the pants come in that coding. I agree with what you said. Life is too short to settle for ugly clothes just because we are a plus size or heavier than we would like to be. Thankfully there are some nice clothes out these days.

Subject: Bigger PantsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 12:14 PM

First, is it just me or are fat women not really allowed to wearshorts? Alternatively, plus size women should all be 5'10" or taller,because while shopping today "shorts" come to the bottom of my calfmuscle and capris fell to my ankles. I am 5'5" with long legs for myheight, and I think I will have to hem the shorts 5-6" to get them 1.5inches above my knee! I never needed petite clothing in regularsizes, but petite plus sizes are 2-3 inches longer than regularpetites! I guess when you grow out you are supposed to grow up?Second, this has been a hard milestone for me. A lot of friends andfamily members ask me for clothing advice, which I freely offer. Butwhen it comes to myself, I've been very guilty of buying clothing toshrink into. The probable height of my stupidity was switching from20 Petite to 20 to 20 Tall in order to avoid size 22 pants. I waswearing 20T jeans for almost 6 months, tripping

over the hem andhaving them dig painfully into my waist. I now know that I probablyneeded 24P at that time!Anyway, today I actually tried on every pair of pants and kept going,checking fit and appearance, until I had as many pairs as I couldafford. That's something I haven't done, ever. Even at my lowestweight I could barely stand to try on pants in a dressing room becauseI hated the way my body looked. It isn't the clothing's fault that Ihave/had trouble accepting my size! But I certainly took it out onmyself by continuing to buy clothing a shade too small (or smaller)and promising myself I would diet/exercise into them soon. Second, Ididn't make excuses for ugly clothing just because it fit. I knowthis is probably the dumbest thing on earth, but if you are scroungingthrough clearance clothing and you are looking at the largest sizethey carry... it's easy to excuse glaring flaws in cut, color,

fabricor construction just because you want to be done and out of there!I think I committed all these awful fashion crimes for so long becauseI didn't think I deserved better, and because I thought if I gave into the next size up I would keep expanding forever. Both things aresilly and hurtful nonsense, and I'm proud that today was my first stepaway from that.Life is just too short to live and dress like that, no matter whatsize you wear!

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I feel like I'm stuck betseen womans and misses sizes. The XL barely

fit but the M from Romaans or Woman Within are too big. And they

rarely offer a small in their sizes. I do sew but it would be nice not

to have to sew.

-- In IntuitiveEating_Support , " lilangelli "

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>

> First, is it just me or are fat women not really allowed to wear

> shorts? Alternatively, plus size women should all be 5'10 " or taller,

> because while shopping today " shorts " come to the bottom of my calf

> muscle and capris fell to my ankles. I am 5'5 " with long legs for my

> height, and I think I will have to hem the shorts 5-6 " to get them 1.5

> inches above my knee! I never needed petite clothing in regular

> sizes, but petite plus sizes are 2-3 inches longer than regular

> petites! I guess when you grow out you are supposed to grow up?

>

>

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Can't remember where I read it, but an article about body acceptance

reminded readers that in the not-too-distant past, people had their

outfits made to FIT THEM - now we are faced with the opposite, that

we have to search the racks to fit OURSELVES into those " sizes " -

arbitrary, once-size-fits-none sort of things.

And, having lost a little weight, I see that some of the things I

bought were never really fitting well anyway - it was a flaw in the

garment and not me. And how much time did I spend berating myself

and hating my body?? - WAY TOO MUCH! :-)

>

> First, is it just me or are fat women not really allowed to wear

> shorts? Alternatively, plus size women should all be 5'10 " or

taller,

> because while shopping today " shorts " come to the bottom of my calf

> muscle and capris fell to my ankles. I am 5'5 " with long legs for

my

> height, and I think I will have to hem the shorts 5-6 " to get them

1.5

> inches above my knee! I never needed petite clothing in regular

> sizes, but petite plus sizes are 2-3 inches longer than regular

> petites! I guess when you grow out you are supposed to grow up?

>

> Second, this has been a hard milestone for me. A lot of friends and

> family members ask me for clothing advice, which I freely offer.

But

> when it comes to myself, I've been very guilty of buying clothing to

> shrink into. The probable height of my stupidity was switching from

> 20 Petite to 20 to 20 Tall in order to avoid size 22 pants. I was

> wearing 20T jeans for almost 6 months, tripping over the hem and

> having them dig painfully into my waist. I now know that I probably

> needed 24P at that time!

>

> Anyway, today I actually tried on every pair of pants and kept

going,

> checking fit and appearance, until I had as many pairs as I could

> afford. That's something I haven't done, ever. Even at my lowest

> weight I could barely stand to try on pants in a dressing room

because

> I hated the way my body looked. It isn't the clothing's fault that

I

> have/had trouble accepting my size! But I certainly took it out on

> myself by continuing to buy clothing a shade too small (or smaller)

> and promising myself I would diet/exercise into them soon. Second,

I

> didn't make excuses for ugly clothing just because it fit. I know

> this is probably the dumbest thing on earth, but if you are

scrounging

> through clearance clothing and you are looking at the largest size

> they carry... it's easy to excuse glaring flaws in cut, color,

fabric

> or construction just because you want to be done and out of there!

>

> I think I committed all these awful fashion crimes for so long

because

> I didn't think I deserved better, and because I thought if I gave in

> to the next size up I would keep expanding forever. Both things are

> silly and hurtful nonsense, and I'm proud that today was my first

step

> away from that.

>

> Life is just too short to live and dress like that, no matter what

> size you wear!

>

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Lilangelli- I have a problem with pants myself. I am 5'6 " and have long

legs and a short torso not to mention that I have minimal waist and

what I do have is right up under my ribcage.(and NO hips) In order to

get pants that fit my waist they are huge in the crotch, bupkiss and

hips. I did try a pattern awhile back for making pants that was a 'true-

fit' pattern. It had the guides and all to make them to fit YOU. They

came out okay, but I do not like making pants.

For me the answer has come in the mid-rise jeans and pants. They sit

more towards my hips and I no longer have to deal with the 'muffin-top'

of mommy pants.

BTW- I am 43.

>

> First, is it just me or are fat women not really allowed to wear

> shorts? Alternatively, plus size women should all be 5'10 " or taller,

> because while shopping today " shorts " come to the bottom of my calf

> muscle and capris fell to my ankles. I am 5'5 " with long legs for my

> height, and I think I will have to hem the shorts 5-6 " to get them 1.5

> inches above my knee! I never needed petite clothing in regular

> sizes, but petite plus sizes are 2-3 inches longer than regular

> petites! I guess when you grow out you are supposed to grow up?

>

>

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In my teen and early 20's I used to buy men's jeans because they fit

me better than women's! (I always had a bigger waist) You may want to

give this a try too, even if its for knock-around the house pants

(gardening?). And it wouldn't surprise me that men's jeans are cheaper

than women's ;-)

Katcha

>

> Lilangelli- I have a problem with pants myself. I am 5'6 " and have long

> legs and a short torso not to mention that I have minimal waist and

> what I do have is right up under my ribcage.(and NO hips) In order to

> get pants that fit my waist they are huge in the crotch, bupkiss and

> hips. I did try a pattern awhile back for making pants that was a 'true-

> fit' pattern. It had the guides and all to make them to fit YOU. They

> came out okay, but I do not like making pants.

>

> For me the answer has come in the mid-rise jeans and pants. They sit

> more towards my hips and I no longer have to deal with the 'muffin-top'

> of mommy pants.

>

> BTW- I am 43.

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Cammy,

I have the same body shape as you-long legs, no butt and a shorter

torso. it's better now that there are so many choices in cut and

length for jeans-BUT

I still have a hellish time finding a good swimsuit that feels right.

<sigh> and it's summer now.....

teresa

> >

> > First, is it just me or are fat women not really allowed to wear

> > shorts? Alternatively, plus size women should all be 5'10 " or taller,

> > because while shopping today " shorts " come to the bottom of my calf

> > muscle and capris fell to my ankles. I am 5'5 " with long legs for my

> > height, and I think I will have to hem the shorts 5-6 " to get them 1.5

> > inches above my knee! I never needed petite clothing in regular

> > sizes, but petite plus sizes are 2-3 inches longer than regular

> > petites! I guess when you grow out you are supposed to grow up?

> >

> >

>

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I wonder whether going to a tailor would be a worhtwhile option?

They can create clothing that can later be modified p or down when

your weight changes. I fluctuate A LOT in my weight - have gone up

or down in size very very quickly. It seems like this would be

expensive, however, the clothing would be well made and somewhat

adjustable in size. I have never done this, does anyone have

experience with tailored clothing?

In the meantime, I really like skorts - not the ones that are skirt

in front and pants in back, but the ones that are skirts with a

built in short underneath so that your legs dont rub together. They

look cute and are comfy too. Has anyone else tried these?

>

> Can't remember where I read it, but an article about body

acceptance

> reminded readers that in the not-too-distant past, people had

their

> outfits made to FIT THEM - now we are faced with the opposite,

that

> we have to search the racks to fit OURSELVES into those " sizes " -

> arbitrary, once-size-fits-none sort of things.

>

> And, having lost a little weight, I see that some of the things I

> bought were never really fitting well anyway - it was a flaw in

the

> garment and not me. And how much time did I spend berating myself

> and hating my body?? - WAY TOO MUCH! :-)

>

>

>

>

> >

> > First, is it just me or are fat women not really allowed to wear

> > shorts? Alternatively, plus size women should all be 5'10 " or

> taller,

> > because while shopping today " shorts " come to the bottom of my

calf

> > muscle and capris fell to my ankles. I am 5'5 " with long legs

for

> my

> > height, and I think I will have to hem the shorts 5-6 " to get

them

> 1.5

> > inches above my knee! I never needed petite clothing in regular

> > sizes, but petite plus sizes are 2-3 inches longer than regular

> > petites! I guess when you grow out you are supposed to grow up?

> >

> > Second, this has been a hard milestone for me. A lot of friends

and

> > family members ask me for clothing advice, which I freely

offer.

> But

> > when it comes to myself, I've been very guilty of buying

clothing to

> > shrink into. The probable height of my stupidity was switching

from

> > 20 Petite to 20 to 20 Tall in order to avoid size 22 pants. I

was

> > wearing 20T jeans for almost 6 months, tripping over the hem and

> > having them dig painfully into my waist. I now know that I

probably

> > needed 24P at that time!

> >

> > Anyway, today I actually tried on every pair of pants and kept

> going,

> > checking fit and appearance, until I had as many pairs as I could

> > afford. That's something I haven't done, ever. Even at my

lowest

> > weight I could barely stand to try on pants in a dressing room

> because

> > I hated the way my body looked. It isn't the clothing's fault

that

> I

> > have/had trouble accepting my size! But I certainly took it out

on

> > myself by continuing to buy clothing a shade too small (or

smaller)

> > and promising myself I would diet/exercise into them soon.

Second,

> I

> > didn't make excuses for ugly clothing just because it fit. I

know

> > this is probably the dumbest thing on earth, but if you are

> scrounging

> > through clearance clothing and you are looking at the largest

size

> > they carry... it's easy to excuse glaring flaws in cut, color,

> fabric

> > or construction just because you want to be done and out of

there!

> >

> > I think I committed all these awful fashion crimes for so long

> because

> > I didn't think I deserved better, and because I thought if I

gave in

> > to the next size up I would keep expanding forever. Both things

are

> > silly and hurtful nonsense, and I'm proud that today was my

first

> step

> > away from that.

> >

> > Life is just too short to live and dress like that, no matter

what

> > size you wear!

> >

>

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Speaking of bigger pants...I dug out all my capris and shorts yesterday and guess what...most of them are too small. I have one pair of capris I just bought a couple weeks ago but I guess I'm gonna have to go shopping. I was surprised because I am still wearing jeans I wore last fall when I stopped wearing these capris. I gained weight in the fall but I've been losing this spring and my jeans have been getting looser. I thought the capris would fit. I can get them on and fastened but they are way too tight to wear!

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