Re: Digest Number 583

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In a message dated 1/16/00 4:43:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,

onelist writes:

> No, I'm not deserting you because I magically recovered (don't I wish!).

>

> I just can't handle the number of messages that this list has been

> generating with my limited energy.

>

, have you tried getting the list in digest form? It is just usually

two emails

per day and if you don't feel like reading them, there are only two things to

delete. The digest usually has 25 messages. You might try this if you have

found

that this list has helped.

Mike

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Mike:

How does one get the list in digest form?

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What determines what we recieve in digest form? Sounds like a good idea as

this list is becoming too much for me. thanks,Benjy

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Huh, I've always had a preference/craving for vinegary foods -

sauerbraten, Italian salad dressing... in fact I've gone to straight

balsamic vinegar on salads. I wonder if the body just " knows " what we need

if we only listen.

Theresa

> From: " Lassesen " <kenL@...>

>Subject: Experience with Vinegar ... as a CFS tonic

>

>The discussion of pH, resulted in some back channel email, including

experiences of finding that vinegar cured stomach nausea (also reported in

folk literature). Well, since Laurie is the most CFS in this house -- we've

done a few experiments and find that it seems to help a variety of symptoms:

> nausea

> headaches

>Just an ounce can be sufficient ...

>

>as an FYI/theory: If you are alkaline blood CFS (normal population is < 4%

alkaline blood, CFS is probably >> 50%), then the blood pH and stomach pH

switches ions (pH) as needed. Giving it more ions (pH) from vinegar, allows

the blood to pick up more ions and become less alkaline.

>

>**** AGAIN -- it depends on having a stomach that can handle vinegar....***

>

> HTH, experiences (positive or negative) always welcomed!

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Hi everyone,

Lamar, I like hugs too. I hug my family & we hug at my church. I was

taking Prozac about a year ago. I don't know why Doc put me on it., he

said I had Fibromyalgia & Osteoarthritis. Would not listen to me when I

told him I had CMT. but this Doc is good at prescribing meds. Usually he

gives samples all the time. After i started taking Prozac in the night

my body felt like it was on fire. There would be splotches on my legs.

Don't know what was going on, but stopped taking it. Told Doc & he said

don't quit taking it. These Doctors don't know the dangers of meds & I

honestly think they don't care. I don't take anything, because i know of

different instances where they did more harm than good. At the time he

also had me on Amitriptilene & Estrogen. I stopped all of it.

Patsy

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Lamar here,

No wonder. amitriptilene (Elavil) should not be taken with Prozac, or any SSRI.

----- Original Message -----

From: patsy1128@...

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Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:23 PM

Subject: Re: [] Digest Number 583

Hi everyone,

Lamar, I like hugs too. I hug my family & we hug at my church. I was

taking Prozac about a year ago. I don't know why Doc put me on it., he

said I had Fibromyalgia & Osteoarthritis. Would not listen to me when I

told him I had CMT. but this Doc is good at prescribing meds. Usually he

gives samples all the time. After i started taking Prozac in the night

my body felt like it was on fire. There would be splotches on my legs.

Don't know what was going on, but stopped taking it. Told Doc & he said

don't quit taking it. These Doctors don't know the dangers of meds & I

honestly think they don't care. I don't take anything, because i know of

different instances where they did more harm than good. At the time he

also had me on Amitriptilene & Estrogen. I stopped all of it.

Patsy

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& Gretchen & all,

I surelove the Smoky Mountains. Its my favorite place. Was there last

August I believe I have morefun w/ my gchildren too. I have 7. I lovemy

garage sales too, sad they are over til next spring. We all are gangng

up at my daughters for a sleep over Fri. nite. We'll getpizzas & movies.

Popcorn too. Lots of fun. Don't do much in winter now. Was going sled

riding a lot in recent years. My feet get too cold. I like to get

together w/ my sisters too. I have 3. The craft fairs are starting now.

They're fun to go to.

Patsy

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Hi all, Gretchen,

The eldest of 6 , my brother, Jim, now 70 was drafted into the Army in

the early 50's. They took him. He has mild CMT. arches aren't that high,

but my youngest brother, now 59, was rejected by Army in the 60's

because of high arches, tho we didn't know anythingabout CMT. My gson,

jeremy, 18 has been dx w/ CMT. Has very long & thin feet, wears a size

14 shoe. He has registered w/ draft, but I'm sure wouldn't be accepted

because of feet, & his bro, Danny, 15 walks on his toes.

Patsy

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Hi everyone,

Just wanted to say I started having pain in my right knee. Can't sit on

my knees. Pain goes into my hip & lower back & down into my foot. Have

some pain on left, butthe right is terrible. Up in the groin area, I'm

bothered too. If I move a certain way, my leg seems to give out from the

pain up in the groin area. too have fallen on my knees. About 5 years

ago I fell hard on my knees atwork. I wasn't working at the time. I had

just gotten off work. Where I worked every bearing (almost al) was

oiled. The smokers had to go out to smoke. It was raining the day i

fell, I believe because my shoes got wet & the oil on the floor from the

smokers oing out that door. I hear now they are allowed to smoke inside.

Strange, tho theleft knee was the hardest hit, It was swollen huge but

its right one giving me all the pain. I will hibernate this winter

because I'm paranoid now on ice or snow. I fell hard on snow covered ice

Jan. 1999.

God Bless, patsy

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In a message dated 11/2/2000 11:41:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

patsy1128@... writes:

<< & Gretchen & all,

I surelove the Smoky Mountains. Its my favorite place >>

If at any time anyone is visiting the Smokies, let me know through the

e-mail, maybe we can meet.

[Guest guest]

I forgot to mention that when you take casgara sagrada, psyllium hulls,liquid

bentonite and liquid clorophyll it is recommended to take everything twice a day

except the casgara sagrada. they recommend casgara sagrada 3 times a day. I

guess it has something to do with the liquid bentonite.

Claude

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Thank you for posting the addy to FBI. It was very helpful and they have some

good prices too. Has anyone ordered from them?

Tina Delp

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If it isn't natural, what is it?

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In a message dated 2/7/01 2:34:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,

bodyforlife writes:

<< you really cant get away from having a blender or milk shake maker. >>

I hate the chunks in the shakes too. DH doesn't mind as he expects to slurp

the entire shake in a few gulps as fast as he can anyway. I'd prefer to be

able to drink it down at a normal pace and at least tolerate it. Yesterday I

went to Walmart to buy a blender and chose the handheld drink mixer by

Hamilton Beach. Well, I got it home and it was obviously returned

previously. There was no instruction booklet, the thing was dirty (seemed

like it was used before and not cleaned well), and wouldn't even turn on when

I did plug it in. So I returned it this morning but didn't buy anything else

yet. Anyone know if I should replace it with the same item or get a normal

blender? I hate to use up the counter space and I really only think I'd use

it for the shakes. I've lived without a blender for 10 years and haven't

missed it.

[Guest guest]

Hi Michele My mom uses a hand held mixer like the one you mentioned....it works very well for her

I went without a blender until a year ago, and I HATE taking it apart to clean it 2-3 times per day when I make shakes........ I think I might be looking into a hand held one for quicker clean up!!

~~

I hate the chunks in the shakes too. DH doesn't mind as he expects to slurp the entire shake in a few gulps as fast as he can anyway. I'd prefer to be able to drink it down at a normal pace and at least tolerate it. Yesterday I went to Walmart to buy a blender and chose the handheld drink mixer by Hamilton Beach. Well, I got it home and it was obviously returned previously. There was no instruction booklet, the thing was dirty (seemed like it was used before and not cleaned well), and wouldn't even turn on when I did plug it in. So I returned it this morning but didn't buy anything else yet. Anyone know if I should replace it with the same item or get a normal blender? I hate to use up the counter space and I really only think I'd use it for the shakes. I've lived without a blender for 10 years and haven't missed it.

[Guest guest]

The big blender is fine when I want to make a fancy shake but when it

is just the Myo and water I use a Braun hand held blender. I make sure

my cup is big enough to prevent overflow. It comes out with minimal

lumps.

Liz

> In a message dated 2/7/01 2:34:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> bodyforlife@y... writes:

>

> << you really cant get away from having a blender or milk shake

maker. >>

>

> I hate the chunks in the shakes too. DH doesn't mind as he expects

to slurp

> the entire shake in a few gulps as fast as he can anyway. I'd prefer

to be

> able to drink it down at a normal pace and at least tolerate it.

Yesterday I

> went to Walmart to buy a blender and chose the handheld drink mixer

by

> Hamilton Beach. Well, I got it home and it was obviously returned

> previously. There was no instruction booklet, the thing was dirty

(seemed

> like it was used before and not cleaned well), and wouldn't even

turn on when

> I did plug it in. So I returned it this morning but didn't buy

anything else

> yet. Anyone know if I should replace it with the same item or get a

normal

> blender? I hate to use up the counter space and I really only think

I'd use

> it for the shakes. I've lived without a blender for 10 years and

haven't

> missed it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Everyone,

what super results. Well I must say I am not consistant so that is my problem. I

finally figured out my back problem. I know I am out of whack but I also

remembered that the chiropractor once told me to sleep with a pillow between my

legs so since I started that again, what a difference.

I really screwed up yesterday and had cookies. I am on somercizing and sugar is

a no no. boy do I feel bloated and fat today. One day of indiscretion makes

such a difference.

I really need to stay consistant with the exercising. Now that my back is not

killing me anymore, I can start up again. I am going to aim for a week of 40

breaths starting Wed. Hopefully I will have some good results. I have already

lost some but that could be from the 5 pounds I lost. I do not dare to weigh

myself after the cookies. I already am punishing myself for how rotten I feel!

That is punishment enough.

You are all such wonderful people. I hope to get very motivated by your great

results.

Ellen

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How many people here have local support groups and how many of you are

> > active with them?

> > Cheryl in VA

We have a local support group here called Ups and Downs. ( and I think you

guys stole the name from us)

I am actively involved in it being the vice president of the board. In fact,

it was as a representative of the board that I attended the NDSS conference

in San Diego, else I wouldn't have been able to afford it.

The meetings are the third Wednesday of each month, and are mostly attended

by new parents. We try to provide a forum for discussion as well as

information sessions. I take Ellie along because she loves the new babies,

and the parents like to see children slightly older so they know (kinda)

what their baby will be like in 5 years. I remember thinking things like

" oh, I hope Ellie can walk, talk, play, etc better than that child. " (EW!!)

But now I just don't care as much. Ellie is going to be Ellie no matter what

I do. And if I don't like it I just say she gets it from her dad.

Gwen, mom to Ellie 5

[Guest guest]

How many people here have local support groups and how many of you are

> > active with them?

> > Cheryl in VA

We have a local support group here called Ups and Downs. ( and I think you

guys stole the name from us)

I am actively involved in it being the vice president of the board. In fact,

it was as a representative of the board that I attended the NDSS conference

in San Diego, else I wouldn't have been able to afford it.

The meetings are the third Wednesday of each month, and are mostly attended

by new parents. We try to provide a forum for discussion as well as

information sessions. I take Ellie along because she loves the new babies,

and the parents like to see children slightly older so they know (kinda)

what their baby will be like in 5 years. I remember thinking things like

" oh, I hope Ellie can walk, talk, play, etc better than that child. " (EW!!)

But now I just don't care as much. Ellie is going to be Ellie no matter what

I do. And if I don't like it I just say she gets it from her dad.

Gwen, mom to Ellie 5

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/29/01 9:15:50 AM Central Daylight Time,

gwenv@... writes:

> . And if I don't like it I just say she gets it from her dad.

>

> Gwen, mom to Ellie 5

>

Good thinking, Gwen. A girl after my heart. Jessie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/29/01 9:15:50 AM Central Daylight Time,

gwenv@... writes:

> . And if I don't like it I just say she gets it from her dad.

>

> Gwen, mom to Ellie 5

>

Good thinking, Gwen. A girl after my heart. Jessie

[Guest guest]

And I get such a kick out of the fact that he says it too! He knows he was a

difficult child. So he's not at all surprised that she is like him.

I was one of those sensitive children, if you looked at me wrong I'd break into

tears. It was really hard for me to come to grips with the fact that I had to be

really stern with my beloved little munchkin. Time outs at 4 yrs old???!!! Not

MY baby!! But, she needed it. And I did too. I found myself wishing I could give

my husband time outs. Then I learned the secret, I get the time out. (Yay!

Hurray!)

Now if she is misbehaving, I put a finger in her face and say, " Ellie, that's

ONE! " Usually she shapes up after that. If she misbehaves within 15 minutes,

it's two fingers with " Ellie, that's TWO! " She rarely makes it to three, but if

she does it's a 5 minute time out right there and then. If we're at home it's in

her bedroom. If we're out I find the nearest corner and put her there and turn

my back on her. Then after 5 minutes she's out without any reference to the

behaviors.

Then I can cope with life again.

Gwen, mom to Ellie 5, who's off to camp this morning, and mom's really excited

about that. ----has had her bag packed for a few days already. (Am I a bad mommy

for doing that?)

Re: Digest Number 583

In a message dated 7/29/01 9:15:50 AM Central Daylight Time,

gwenv@... writes:

. And if I don't like it I just say she gets it from her dad.

Gwen, mom to Ellie 5

Good thinking, Gwen. A girl after my heart. Jessie

[Guest guest]

And I get such a kick out of the fact that he says it too! He knows he was a

difficult child. So he's not at all surprised that she is like him.

I was one of those sensitive children, if you looked at me wrong I'd break into

tears. It was really hard for me to come to grips with the fact that I had to be

really stern with my beloved little munchkin. Time outs at 4 yrs old???!!! Not

MY baby!! But, she needed it. And I did too. I found myself wishing I could give

my husband time outs. Then I learned the secret, I get the time out. (Yay!

Hurray!)

Now if she is misbehaving, I put a finger in her face and say, " Ellie, that's

ONE! " Usually she shapes up after that. If she misbehaves within 15 minutes,

it's two fingers with " Ellie, that's TWO! " She rarely makes it to three, but if

she does it's a 5 minute time out right there and then. If we're at home it's in

her bedroom. If we're out I find the nearest corner and put her there and turn

my back on her. Then after 5 minutes she's out without any reference to the

behaviors.

Then I can cope with life again.

Gwen, mom to Ellie 5, who's off to camp this morning, and mom's really excited

about that. ----has had her bag packed for a few days already. (Am I a bad mommy

for doing that?)

Re: Digest Number 583

In a message dated 7/29/01 9:15:50 AM Central Daylight Time,

gwenv@... writes:

. And if I don't like it I just say she gets it from her dad.

Gwen, mom to Ellie 5

Good thinking, Gwen. A girl after my heart. Jessie

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathleen

Are you sure it is nail fungus? I was treated for nail fungus with

sporanox....which I reacted to....spent 5 days in hospital with whole

body edema, burnt skin, urinary bleeding and then lost much of my hair a

month later! They told me one more dose may have killed me. Went through

all of this only to find out that it was psoriasis. And psoriatic

arthritis. I wish they would have cultured it in the beginning, cause

when they did, they found out it was psoriasis. Could have saved me a

" little " trouble and would have been diagnosed with PA sooner. Only had

a small patch on my scalp previous to the reaction, but after that it

appeared on my legs too. Only have 2 toenails without psoriasis....even

had 3 toenails removed...OUCH....and it still came back......4

fingernails have it too.....on my right hand which is swollen and

deformed from arthritis. Haven't found anything yet that gets rid of it.

Hope

you dont have it, but wanted to share my story with you!

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Thanks Emil I'll take a look.

Here in Alberta - this is Canada - not USA - we didn't get electricity until

I was a teenager - which must have been a good thing, but now everything is

geard to electricity.

Good to know there are ways to aviod it!

Thanks for the info!

Judy

Message: 1

> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:56:26 -0500

> From: " Less EMF Inc. " <lessemf@...>

> Subject: Re: furnace/magnetic fields

>

> Yes, there s a nice book called " Living Without Electricity "

> See http://www.lessemf.com/book8.html

>