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vickie@... wrote:

Donna... please re-post the list of foods that

you know trigger's

your rosacea.

I found the post I mentioned - it was actually on the alt.support.skin-diseases

site. I have made a few updates to it.

cea can be triggered by several different foods. Here is a list

I received from the National cea Society. All of these foods

affect my rosacea and I have spoken with many other people with the same

problems. These foods all either release histamines or are vasodialators.

Most people are not triggered by all of these things - unless you're totally

lucky like me!

Triggers:

Alcohol

Caffeine

Yeast

Beans/Nuts (including chocolate, vanilla, cola nut, kidney beans, navy

beans, sunflower, soybean, pecans, pistachios, cashews, peanuts, etc.)

Vinegar (salad dressings, mayonnaise, mustard, ketchup, marinated meats,

etc.)

Spinach

Avocados

Citrus fruits (This may include fruits with small amounts of citric

acid - like apples. And possibly all fruit juices (like me).

Grapes, Raisins, Prunes, Figs, Plums

Bananas

Tomatoes (Don't forget ketchup!)

Cheese

Sour Cream

Yogurt

Soy Sauce

BHT, BHA, MSG, Yellow #5, Red #40, Blue #1, and nitrates also set mine

off. I have heard nitrates can be a common trigger for other people as

well. Also, any food allergies can trigger it -which I have plenty of.

If you are having problems with food triggers, you should probably cut

out all unprocessed foods - you won't have to worry about unknown preservatives,

colorings, etc. If you believe you have additional food allergies - get

tested! I told the doctor that several foods I tested positive for I absolutely

KNEW I was not allergic to. However, as the allergies got worse, I realized

the tests were actually correct! When mine is really bad, I just basically

eat meat, vegetables, and rice. I lost plenty of weight before my rosacea

was treated! Salt/sugar (with no additives/uniodized salt) were also triggers

for me when my rosacea was untreated. These two things did not bother me

until after I had progressively developed reactions to all of the foods

on the rosacea list. I know these caused the reactions because I tested

them separately without eating any other foods. Fortunately, neither sugar

or salt bother me now - probably because I started taking the medicine

before it had a chance to progress.

Donna G.

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vickie@... wrote:

Donna... please re-post the list of foods that

you know trigger's

your rosacea.

I found the post I mentioned - it was actually on the alt.support.skin-diseases

site. I have made a few updates to it.

cea can be triggered by several different foods. Here is a list

I received from the National cea Society. All of these foods

affect my rosacea and I have spoken with many other people with the same

problems. These foods all either release histamines or are vasodialators.

Most people are not triggered by all of these things - unless you're totally

lucky like me!

Triggers:

Alcohol

Caffeine

Yeast

Beans/Nuts (including chocolate, vanilla, cola nut, kidney beans, navy

beans, sunflower, soybean, pecans, pistachios, cashews, peanuts, etc.)

Vinegar (salad dressings, mayonnaise, mustard, ketchup, marinated meats,

etc.)

Spinach

Avocados

Citrus fruits (This may include fruits with small amounts of citric

acid - like apples. And possibly all fruit juices (like me).

Grapes, Raisins, Prunes, Figs, Plums

Bananas

Tomatoes (Don't forget ketchup!)

Cheese

Sour Cream

Yogurt

Soy Sauce

BHT, BHA, MSG, Yellow #5, Red #40, Blue #1, and nitrates also set mine

off. I have heard nitrates can be a common trigger for other people as

well. Also, any food allergies can trigger it -which I have plenty of.

If you are having problems with food triggers, you should probably cut

out all unprocessed foods - you won't have to worry about unknown preservatives,

colorings, etc. If you believe you have additional food allergies - get

tested! I told the doctor that several foods I tested positive for I absolutely

KNEW I was not allergic to. However, as the allergies got worse, I realized

the tests were actually correct! When mine is really bad, I just basically

eat meat, vegetables, and rice. I lost plenty of weight before my rosacea

was treated! Salt/sugar (with no additives/uniodized salt) were also triggers

for me when my rosacea was untreated. These two things did not bother me

until after I had progressively developed reactions to all of the foods

on the rosacea list. I know these caused the reactions because I tested

them separately without eating any other foods. Fortunately, neither sugar

or salt bother me now - probably because I started taking the medicine

before it had a chance to progress.

Donna G.

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Also - the longer you stay away from the foods, your reactions to them

will get much better, eventually allowing you to eat these things

occasionally. Just remember, when you decide to try eating some of these

things again ROTATE! If you decide to have tomatoes one time, don't eat

them again for about a week - I speak from experience - doing that will

only make your reactions worse. Just because you got by with it the

first time, doesn't mean you can eat it three days in a row. Hope the

list helps!

Donna G.

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Also - the longer you stay away from the foods, your reactions to them

will get much better, eventually allowing you to eat these things

occasionally. Just remember, when you decide to try eating some of these

things again ROTATE! If you decide to have tomatoes one time, don't eat

them again for about a week - I speak from experience - doing that will

only make your reactions worse. Just because you got by with it the

first time, doesn't mean you can eat it three days in a row. Hope the

list helps!

Donna G.

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Hi Lance,

> Yoe ho ho all my red-faced friends of mine,

>

> I am really confused on this " trigger " issue. What in the world can

> we eat here without our rosacea flaring up to some degree? I know

> alcohol, spicy foods, and caffine are the big ones but every time I

> read these messages someone else has a different one.

Yo ho ho too !

people are just very different. I have posted before that the whole

triggers discussion in kinda mute to me because I have no

chemical/food triggers, only exercise and heat. Food allergies play a

part for some people but not me. There are others on the list who are

the same as me.

I have noticed that when my rosacea is under control as in less lumpy

and pustuly (is that a word ?) the flushing is also less, so I can

tolerate more exercise before looking like Santa.

BTW I played Santa at the company Christmas do last year and for once

was proud of my red nose :-)

davidp.

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Hi Donna,

As I sat there today in the Drs office listening to him say that

food doesnt play a major role in rosacea/seb derm, I knew he wasnt right. He

handed me a list of possible food triggers that I didnt notice until I got

home(it was an early morning apt and I am definitely not with it in the

morning!!) and I was like ,what the hell is he talking about that food doesnt

factor into this!

Here are some of the foods listed: Liver,Yogurt,Sour cream,

Cheese(except cottage cheese),Chocolate,Vanilla,Soy sauce,Yeast extract(bread

is ok), Vinegar,Eggplant,Avocados, Spinach, Broad leaf beans and

pods,including lima,navy or pea, Citrus fruits, including tomatoes,

bananas,red plums, raisins or figs, Spicy and thermally hot foods, foods high

in histamine.(which I'd like to know what those are).

Thanks for the info on the web page for vasculitis. I'll look

into it. Did you have the allergy testing for foods done? What do you find

that you are allergic to? I know that I ate something today that is bothering

me because Im itching at the moment and getting blotches here and there. Since

you have asthma, if you went into this Drs office today he probably would have

tested you. Because I dont react internally to any foods(wheezing,

sneezing,etc..) they dont feel I need testing and sum it up as a skin

condition not related to foods(only to avoid the usual triggers).At least this

Dr was the first one that Ive seen that said rosacea is a vascular related

condition!

See with me its hard to pinpoint what is causing this.Im on alot

of medication for pain (herniated disc in my neck). Today I was put on another

anti anxiety pill ( both to deal with this and to cut down the nerve pain). I

ask questions about the Meds that might add to rosacea and apparently the ones

Im on shouldnt bother anything.(but who knows!). Its interesting that I was on

one pain pill, fioricet, for 3 years and read that one of the side effects is

facial flushing! Im going to a pain clinic next week to see if they can get me

off of all of these pills,so we'll see. With all of this going on Im about to

try Heroin!!!!!

Bill

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He feels food, other than the standard triggers that are listed for rosacea,

doesnt affect rosacea/seb derm.He said that any food that opens up the blood

vessels can make the redness worse.So much for the tests!

Bill-

I would definitely argue with him about that. In fact, one of the symptoms of

food allergies is flushing. The reason that a lot of the foods on the list

cause flushing (the ones that release histamines) is because they provoke

an allergic reaction just like an actual food allergy. All of the foods on

the rosacea list are either vasodialators or histamine releasers. Whenever I

eat one of the foods that release histamines, I have asthma as soon as I eat

it - I have the same reaction whenever I eat one of the foods I am allergic

to. Food allergies definitely cause dialated blood vessels - a few minutes

after I have an asthma attack - the rosacea starts up, as well as allergic

vasculitis (a major symptom of food allergies). My blood vessels dialate all

over my entire body, leaving me with very blotchy looking skin everywhere.

The reason for the vasculitis (I have mentioned it before, but I will mention

it again for all the newer members) is shown on this page:

http://www.bhs.berkeley.k12.ca.us/departments/science/anatomy/anatomy97/heart/ht\

ml/pathology/vasculitis.html

(Just cut and paste this into the location window of your brower)

It says.....

" Vasculitis is an inflammatory disease that occurs in the blood vessels. It is

caused by either a bacterial or fungal infection, or an immune/allergic

reaction. In the process of destroying bacteria, white blood cells can damage

the epithelium of the vessels. When vasculitis is caused by an immune/allergic

reaction, the body makes antibodies to get rid of antigens (substances which

cause allergic reactions). When these antibodies remain in the bloodstream too

long, they can cause inflammation. "

My seborrheic dermatitis and ocular rosacea are DEFINITELY affected by food

allergies. Mine start up anytime after I have an allergic reaction to a

food. Notice that vasculitis can also cause eye problems because of inflamed

blood vessels.

I would say that probably most people that aren't prone to food allergies are

probably not affected by the histamine releasing foods, just the vasodialators,

maybe???

Donna G.

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