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>Every magazine article you read about visiting the doctor advises the

>reader to write thier questions down prior to the appointment, but

>every time I do it it seems to p# & them off. What am I doing wrong???

>

>dawn

>

i think you had a great idea..and you need to change doctors if at all

possible...

i had a positive experience by doing the same thing..( ok..it was a

vet..but he is a doctor..ha) i had taken mamas boy to 3 vets..and their

answer was to put him out doors or give him away.....( he was eating my

other 3 cats..several puncture wounds later)..so i wrote the whole story

down and mailed it to a 4th vet...( about a 3 page letter)..and when i

had the appt... he thanked me for letting him have some time to think

about my problem....and solved it!!!

i think many doctors get burned out and need a break...you probably hit

him on a bad day....but i think you had a good idea...

nicki

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Dawn,

You're not doing anything wrong. The medical proffession seems to be

on a one way track when it comes to treatment (usually the standard

treatments). They seem to get pissed off when you do ask them questions about

what might work that is different from the usual. I've had the same thing

happen to me a few times, but Im at the point where I have been through so

much medical crap and been given less than satisfactory treatment, that I dont

give a damn how pissed off they might get. I still question them! If I find

they are not receptive to anything other than what THEY think should be done

than I know not to continue with that Dr.

We all have been through so much in dealing with this condition that

we deserve the proper attention from Drs. I wish that I was like some people

and have complete trust in what their Dr tells them( it might ease the stress

of this some), but after what I've been through and now going all over trying

to conquer rosacea ,I listen to what they have to say and then determine for

myself what seems right. Im glad I found this group when I did. Ive learned

alot from all of you, much more than all the derms Ive gone to so far. (and Im

not done yet!!).

So dont let them be curt and pissed off with you for just wanting to

find the best possible solution for you. Fight them!!! I here you Texas gals

can be tough when you want to be!!! Bill

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Dawn,

You're not doing anything wrong. The medical proffession seems to be

on a one way track when it comes to treatment (usually the standard

treatments). They seem to get pissed off when you do ask them questions about

what might work that is different from the usual. I've had the same thing

happen to me a few times, but Im at the point where I have been through so

much medical crap and been given less than satisfactory treatment, that I dont

give a damn how pissed off they might get. I still question them! If I find

they are not receptive to anything other than what THEY think should be done

than I know not to continue with that Dr.

We all have been through so much in dealing with this condition that

we deserve the proper attention from Drs. I wish that I was like some people

and have complete trust in what their Dr tells them( it might ease the stress

of this some), but after what I've been through and now going all over trying

to conquer rosacea ,I listen to what they have to say and then determine for

myself what seems right. Im glad I found this group when I did. Ive learned

alot from all of you, much more than all the derms Ive gone to so far. (and Im

not done yet!!).

So dont let them be curt and pissed off with you for just wanting to

find the best possible solution for you. Fight them!!! I here you Texas gals

can be tough when you want to be!!! Bill

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wow what a jerk! IMO, you're not doing anything wrong. i think it's time to

change docs. my first derm put me on hydrocortisone cream and regular

tetracycline. didn't do a darn thing. and it progressed. if i relied on him,

well....i changed docs and am very happy that i did. if you can't feel

comfortable with your doc, if he/she doesn't show compassion/empathy, it's not

you!! change him. or tell him how you feel.

laura

oldstuff@... wrote:

> cea still sux but at least I no longer feel like some huge, nasty cosmic

joke has been played on me and me alone. Also, ya'll (yes, I say ya'll--I'm from

Texas) always offer such good, solid, well-thought-out advice. Anyway, I've kept

careful notes since finding this group, and I made a list of facts & questions

for my derm. In consideration of his time, I mailed it to him the week prior to

my appointment, thinking he'd appreciate being able to read and consider the

info instead of having it thrust suddenly in his face during my visit. WRONG.

Not only did he fail to appreciate my new-found knowlege and my consideration of

his time, he seemed thoroughly PO'd that I'd found all that info. He was curt,

disdainful and in geneal as ass. Every magazine article you read about visiting

the doctor advises the reader to write thier questions down prior to the

appointment, but every time I do it it seems to p# & them off. What am I doing

wrong???

>

> dawn

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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wow what a jerk! IMO, you're not doing anything wrong. i think it's time to

change docs. my first derm put me on hydrocortisone cream and regular

tetracycline. didn't do a darn thing. and it progressed. if i relied on him,

well....i changed docs and am very happy that i did. if you can't feel

comfortable with your doc, if he/she doesn't show compassion/empathy, it's not

you!! change him. or tell him how you feel.

laura

oldstuff@... wrote:

> cea still sux but at least I no longer feel like some huge, nasty cosmic

joke has been played on me and me alone. Also, ya'll (yes, I say ya'll--I'm from

Texas) always offer such good, solid, well-thought-out advice. Anyway, I've kept

careful notes since finding this group, and I made a list of facts & questions

for my derm. In consideration of his time, I mailed it to him the week prior to

my appointment, thinking he'd appreciate being able to read and consider the

info instead of having it thrust suddenly in his face during my visit. WRONG.

Not only did he fail to appreciate my new-found knowlege and my consideration of

his time, he seemed thoroughly PO'd that I'd found all that info. He was curt,

disdainful and in geneal as ass. Every magazine article you read about visiting

the doctor advises the reader to write thier questions down prior to the

appointment, but every time I do it it seems to p# & them off. What am I doing

wrong???

>

> dawn

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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I agree that I should probably look for another derm, but I really liked this

guy before this happened. He was always nice and seemed concerned and

knowlegable. There's something about taking that list of questions out of your

purse or pocket that sets thier teeth on edge. And if you REALLY want to see

them seethe, give them some new research or treatment info you've found on the

net or in a book. I don't get it. I have an antiques shop, and I LOVE to have a

customer walk in and tell me something I didn't already know. I like it when my

clientele is knowlegable and informed...it usually means they keep the stupid

questions to a minumum and we can have an interesting chat. Docs seem to want

dummies who can't think for themselves. Go figure.

dawn

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Original Article: /list/rosacea-support/?start=1820

> wow what a jerk! IMO, you're not doing anything wrong. i think it's time to

change docs. my first derm put me on hydrocortisone cream and regular

tetracycline. didn't do a darn thing. and it progressed. if i relied on him,

well....i changed docs and am very happy that i did. if you can't feel

comfortable with your doc, if he/she doesn't show compassion/empathy, it's not

you!! change him. or tell him how you feel.

>

>

> laura

>

> oldstuff@... wrote:

>

> > cea still sux but at least I no longer feel like some huge, nasty cosmic

joke has been played on me and me alone. Also, ya'll (yes, I say ya'll--I'm from

Texas) always offer such good, solid, well-thought-out advice. Anyway, I've kept

careful notes since finding this group, and I made a list of facts & questions

for my derm. In consideration of his time, I mailed it to him the week prior to

my appointment, thinking he'd appreciate being able to read and consider the

info instead of having it thrust suddenly in his face during my visit. WRONG.

Not only did he fail to appreciate my new-found knowlege and my consideration of

his time, he seemed thoroughly PO'd that I'd found all that info. He was curt,

disdainful and in geneal as ass. Every magazine article you read about visiting

the doctor advises the reader to write thier questions down prior to the

appointment, but every time I do it it seems to p# & them off. What am I doing

wrong???

> >

> > dawn

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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I agree that I should probably look for another derm, but I really liked this

guy before this happened. He was always nice and seemed concerned and

knowlegable. There's something about taking that list of questions out of your

purse or pocket that sets thier teeth on edge. And if you REALLY want to see

them seethe, give them some new research or treatment info you've found on the

net or in a book. I don't get it. I have an antiques shop, and I LOVE to have a

customer walk in and tell me something I didn't already know. I like it when my

clientele is knowlegable and informed...it usually means they keep the stupid

questions to a minumum and we can have an interesting chat. Docs seem to want

dummies who can't think for themselves. Go figure.

dawn

wrote:

Original Article: /list/rosacea-support/?start=1820

> wow what a jerk! IMO, you're not doing anything wrong. i think it's time to

change docs. my first derm put me on hydrocortisone cream and regular

tetracycline. didn't do a darn thing. and it progressed. if i relied on him,

well....i changed docs and am very happy that i did. if you can't feel

comfortable with your doc, if he/she doesn't show compassion/empathy, it's not

you!! change him. or tell him how you feel.

>

>

> laura

>

> oldstuff@... wrote:

>

> > cea still sux but at least I no longer feel like some huge, nasty cosmic

joke has been played on me and me alone. Also, ya'll (yes, I say ya'll--I'm from

Texas) always offer such good, solid, well-thought-out advice. Anyway, I've kept

careful notes since finding this group, and I made a list of facts & questions

for my derm. In consideration of his time, I mailed it to him the week prior to

my appointment, thinking he'd appreciate being able to read and consider the

info instead of having it thrust suddenly in his face during my visit. WRONG.

Not only did he fail to appreciate my new-found knowlege and my consideration of

his time, he seemed thoroughly PO'd that I'd found all that info. He was curt,

disdainful and in geneal as ass. Every magazine article you read about visiting

the doctor advises the reader to write thier questions down prior to the

appointment, but every time I do it it seems to p# & them off. What am I doing

wrong???

> >

> > dawn

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:18:09 EST Lucyre@... writes:

>Ok nicki,

> whats the answer with the cats... ;-)

>

oh my gosh..it was really extreme..but the boy was making my 4 girlcats

life he**!!!! he is the most loving cat i have ever been owned by..he

lives to sit on my lap..kiss me..sleeps with his head next to mine on my

pillow....he is in the low 20's ( pound wise)..so he is big like a dog (

i grew up with chihuahuas...and he is bigger than any of them)..he comes

when called..meets me at the door when i come home..ha i could go on and

on....

he should be an only cat...but i had 4 girls cats that got along

great..(they are from the ages of 8-15)...anyway...we ended up grinding

his incisors down and filling them....( they do this to lab monkeys) he

still chases and bites the girls..but it is more of a gumming...it is the

incisors that makes the puncture wounds...

we have had him 5 years now.( he was a stray headed for the pound).and i

have talked to two animal behaviorists..and tried all the tricks...but

nothing works...he enjoys hunting the girls down and chasing them around

the house...

the only good side..is mousie..( my 15 year old cat)..had arthritis and

her bones creaked..but mamas boy gives her such a good work out..she is

running like a kitten now...

nicki

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In a message dated 2/20/99 6:07:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tfvoigt@... writes:

<< Dawn,

I want to say that you did NOTHING wrong--I believe it's the wrong

doctor!!! I had one of those in October, with his perfect skin and

all--I'll see how this new one is. I feel that in a very real sense,

these doctors are our employees--yeah! that means we can FIRE THEM!! YES!

Carol

>>

I guess I am so lucky that I found a derm who has cea himself!!!!!!

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