Re: Doorway freeze>A Thought>JBF ...

[Guest guest]

That's what made sense to me also. It's something solid to hold onto

and really grip. Maybe too, because there is normally wood trim it

looks different and much more solid.

Again, just a thought, I just wondered why =:>)

Sally

[Guest guest]

That's what made sense to me also. It's something solid to hold onto

and really grip. Maybe too, because there is normally wood trim it

looks different and much more solid.

Again, just a thought, I just wondered why =:>)

Sally

[Guest guest]

No guys, it is not just the feeling of security. They also freeze in the

middle of walking and if you put a stick out in front they start walking

again. Some freeze going from one floor surface to another like from tile to

carpet. It is just plain Parkinson's freezing and for Ken gets better when he

takes Sinemet. I know he doesn't do any of it consciously.

Barbara S

[Guest guest]

No guys, it is not just the feeling of security. They also freeze in the

middle of walking and if you put a stick out in front they start walking

again. Some freeze going from one floor surface to another like from tile to

carpet. It is just plain Parkinson's freezing and for Ken gets better when he

takes Sinemet. I know he doesn't do any of it consciously.

Barbara S

[Guest guest]

You're so right Barbara, there is no rhyme or reason to it. Jim could

freeze if there was a piece of lint on the carpet in front of him sometimes.

And going from one flooring to another often brought him to a halt. He

found that if he'd hum, he could start to move again.

Hugs,

Nan

Re: Doorway freeze>A Thought>JBF ...

No guys, it is not just the feeling of security. They also freeze in the

middle of walking and if you put a stick out in front they start walking

again. Some freeze going from one floor surface to another like from tile to

carpet. It is just plain Parkinson's freezing and for Ken gets better when

he

takes Sinemet. I know he doesn't do any of it consciously.

Barbara S

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is difficult to get a large person into a vehicle. The van is

better than a car for my husband because the seat is higher. It is

impossible to get him up out of a car.

We have learned that it is easier to get him in and out of leather seats

than fabric seats. The fabric seats and his clothes seem to hang on to each

other, while the leather seats allow him to 'slide' some.

We are somewhat lucky in that my husband's upper body strength is better

than his legs. Thus he can still pull himself into the van. Our son has a

large SUV. There is not as much room between the front seat and the door

post in the SUV as there is in a van.

We have wished that our front seat could be set into the vehicle a few

inches farther back to allow for more room to get feet into vehicle.

marilyn in TN.

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>From: HyFyC72@...

>To: shydrageregroups

>Subject: Re: Doorway freeze>A Thought>JBF ...

>Date: Sat, Sep 2, 2000, 6:46 PM

>

>speaking of freezing is anyone having trouble getting their pk sds into a car

>==I even bought a van and it is the worst struggle--ogf course my husband

>weighs 209 and that probably makes it harder===it is almost as bad as trying

>to get him on the toilet and trying to get him out of the good ol

>doorway--luvu ch

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is difficult to get a large person into a vehicle. The van is

better than a car for my husband because the seat is higher. It is

impossible to get him up out of a car.

We have learned that it is easier to get him in and out of leather seats

than fabric seats. The fabric seats and his clothes seem to hang on to each

other, while the leather seats allow him to 'slide' some.

We are somewhat lucky in that my husband's upper body strength is better

than his legs. Thus he can still pull himself into the van. Our son has a

large SUV. There is not as much room between the front seat and the door

post in the SUV as there is in a van.

We have wished that our front seat could be set into the vehicle a few

inches farther back to allow for more room to get feet into vehicle.

marilyn in TN.

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>From: HyFyC72@...

>To: shydrageregroups

>Subject: Re: Doorway freeze>A Thought>JBF ...

>Date: Sat, Sep 2, 2000, 6:46 PM

>

>speaking of freezing is anyone having trouble getting their pk sds into a car

>==I even bought a van and it is the worst struggle--ogf course my husband

>weighs 209 and that probably makes it harder===it is almost as bad as trying

>to get him on the toilet and trying to get him out of the good ol

>doorway--luvu ch

>

>

[Guest guest]

we learned from a rehab therapist that the top of the patient's head is

touched so that the head does not hit the door opening of the car. When

I feel the back of my knees and hear 'ur there' then I slowly sit down.

Once I sit on the car seat, The helper' body moves closer and my legs

lift up and into the car. If I have a difficult time the helper pivots

my upper body and then my legs. seatbelt is secure and the helper

manually locks and closes the door.

For our handicapped van, I have a lift. If I can not get into the van

using my walker, then there are no arguments and the wheelchair is

used. If I use the doorway to get into the van, then the helper is

right behind me and i step side ways or sortof diag forward. if i had a

real devil of a time , we may get one of those steps that they have in

docs offices to help me get into the van. The step is metal with a

rubber texture step covering and a handle tubing that I hold onto. The

neuro. showed me that stepping sideways first maybe easier than stepping

onto the step toes first. OH sometimes helper just pushes my butt up

when i need a boost into the van.

Those are different ways I get into the vehicles. We also ask for help

if someone is standing there.

nancy

HyFyC72@... wrote:

>

> speaking of freezing is anyone having trouble getting their pk sds into a car

> ==I even bought a van and it is the worst struggle--ogf course my husband

> weighs 209 and that probably makes it harder===it is almost as bad as trying

> to get him on the toilet and trying to get him out of the good ol

> doorway--luvu ch

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, getting Ken in and out of a car is hard too. He grabs hold of anything

and can't let go, and sometimes he just can't seem to move at all. other

times he stands up and climbs in easily. We have noted that if it is brightly

lighted, he does best, and we keep a bright lantern in the car for nighttime

when there is not enough other light. Several years ago, my children were

telling me I shouted at Ken too often (Sometimes a loud command will do the

trick). This stopped when Our son was home for a vacation, and we came home

after dark. I went in the house and left my son and our caregiver to bring in

Ken from the car. After a while, my son came in and very sheepishly said,

" Mother, will you come out and shout at Dad? We can't get him out of the car. "

I smiled and told him I would be happy to after he had asked me three times.

Barbara S

[Guest guest]

barbara--the shouting incident with your son is so funny==especially when you

told him to ask you three times===lord forgive me for all the times I have

raised my voice---this car thing just gets me down sometimes and when we go

some place he will want to go in and when I say it is too hard to get him out

of the place we are and into the car he gets pretty darn mad at me --oh

well--that s the way it goes!!!!! love you all ch

[Guest guest]

<<

We have learned that it is easier to get him in and out of leather seats

than fabric seats. The fabric seats and his clothes seem to hang on to each

other, while the leather seats allow him to 'slide' some.

>>

i have tried the plastiic garbage bags on the area you are going to sit

bt