Guest guest Posted June 16, 1997 Report Share Posted June 16, 1997 I am curious, is niacin, a potential trigger for many rosacea sufferers, the same niacinamide, which is in all multivitamins? ---------- > > To: rosacea-supportegroups > Subject: Re: Re:possible causes... > Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 11:24 PM > > PAUL TOWNLEY-SMITH wrote: > > > I forgot that I also wanted to re-mention (is that a word?) that I started > > an extensive vitamin regimen when I started treating my rosacea, and I > > believe that it helps me keep it under control. I took my regimen from the > > following book: > > Prescription for Nutritional Healing by F. Balch MD and Phyllis A. > > Balch CNC > > (We're on page 462) They also give lots of information on the nutrients > > required during pregnancy (and any other condition you might be curious > > about), and as I've mentioned before, I had three kids really close together > > and my rosacea started when the third was born. When I found out how little > > there really is in the prenatal vit's I was prescribed, I wanted to strangle > > my doctor! > > Kerry > > > > I copied this out for someone else. If anyone is interested these are the > supplement recommendations from the book Kerry mentions above. I also follow > many of the recommendations. > > Very Important > 1. Evening Primrose Oil 500mg 3x daily. (I don't take this because it I get > a weird side effect not related to my face...but never heard of anyone else who > reacts to it). > 2. Vitamin A 25,000 IU daily for 3 months then reduce to 15,000IU. If > pregnant do not exceed 10,000IU. (I take the beta-carotene form, now only once > per day; I feel beta-carotene is safer). > 3. Vitamin B complex as directed on lable. (I take exactly that). > 4. extra Vitamin B12 100mcg 3 times daily (again, I now take this only > 1x/day). > Important > 1. Kelp 1000-1500mg daily (I take 1000) > 2. Multivitamin and mineral complex as directed on lable (yes for me). > 3. Vitamin E start with 400IU daily and increase slowly to 800IU (yes for me) > 4. Zinc 50 mg daily - do not exceed 100 mg daily from all supplement sources > (check your multi - I take about 40 mg) > Helpful > 1. Ageless beauty from Biotec Foods as directed on lable (I can't find this in > Canada). > 2. Aloe vera topical application as directed. (I don't use but others on site > have said they do - the book warns that some sufferers may react to this). > 3. Chlorophyll or alfalfa as directed on lable. (alfalfa for me). > 4. flaxseed oil capsules 1000mg daily or liquid 1 tsp daily (I take capsules). > > 5. GH3 cream from Gero Vita - topical as directed (can't find here). > 6. Herpanacine from Diamond-Herpanacine Associates as directed on lable (can't > find here). > 7. L-Cysteine 500mg daily, on an empty stomach. Take with water or juice. Do > not take with milk. Take with 50mg B6 and 100mg Vitamin C for better > absorption. Contains sulfur, needed for healthy skin. (I haven't tried this > yet). > 8. Lecithin 1200mg 3x daily before meals (I only do this in the morning) > 9. Proteolytic enzymes as directed on lable. take between meals (don't use) > 10. Selenium 200mcg daily (yes for me). > 11. Vitamin C with bioflavonoids 3000-5000 mg daily in divided doses. (I am > now only taking 1000mg). > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . > Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has > arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. > Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 1997 Report Share Posted June 16, 1997 I am curious, is niacin, a potential trigger for many rosacea sufferers, the same niacinamide, which is in all multivitamins? ---------- > > To: rosacea-supportegroups > Subject: Re: Re:possible causes... > Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 11:24 PM > > PAUL TOWNLEY-SMITH wrote: > > > I forgot that I also wanted to re-mention (is that a word?) that I started > > an extensive vitamin regimen when I started treating my rosacea, and I > > believe that it helps me keep it under control. I took my regimen from the > > following book: > > Prescription for Nutritional Healing by F. Balch MD and Phyllis A. > > Balch CNC > > (We're on page 462) They also give lots of information on the nutrients > > required during pregnancy (and any other condition you might be curious > > about), and as I've mentioned before, I had three kids really close together > > and my rosacea started when the third was born. When I found out how little > > there really is in the prenatal vit's I was prescribed, I wanted to strangle > > my doctor! > > Kerry > > > > I copied this out for someone else. If anyone is interested these are the > supplement recommendations from the book Kerry mentions above. I also follow > many of the recommendations. > > Very Important > 1. Evening Primrose Oil 500mg 3x daily. (I don't take this because it I get > a weird side effect not related to my face...but never heard of anyone else who > reacts to it). > 2. Vitamin A 25,000 IU daily for 3 months then reduce to 15,000IU. If > pregnant do not exceed 10,000IU. (I take the beta-carotene form, now only once > per day; I feel beta-carotene is safer). > 3. Vitamin B complex as directed on lable. (I take exactly that). > 4. extra Vitamin B12 100mcg 3 times daily (again, I now take this only > 1x/day). > Important > 1. Kelp 1000-1500mg daily (I take 1000) > 2. Multivitamin and mineral complex as directed on lable (yes for me). > 3. Vitamin E start with 400IU daily and increase slowly to 800IU (yes for me) > 4. Zinc 50 mg daily - do not exceed 100 mg daily from all supplement sources > (check your multi - I take about 40 mg) > Helpful > 1. Ageless beauty from Biotec Foods as directed on lable (I can't find this in > Canada). > 2. Aloe vera topical application as directed. (I don't use but others on site > have said they do - the book warns that some sufferers may react to this). > 3. Chlorophyll or alfalfa as directed on lable. (alfalfa for me). > 4. flaxseed oil capsules 1000mg daily or liquid 1 tsp daily (I take capsules). > > 5. GH3 cream from Gero Vita - topical as directed (can't find here). > 6. Herpanacine from Diamond-Herpanacine Associates as directed on lable (can't > find here). > 7. L-Cysteine 500mg daily, on an empty stomach. Take with water or juice. Do > not take with milk. Take with 50mg B6 and 100mg Vitamin C for better > absorption. Contains sulfur, needed for healthy skin. (I haven't tried this > yet). > 8. Lecithin 1200mg 3x daily before meals (I only do this in the morning) > 9. Proteolytic enzymes as directed on lable. take between meals (don't use) > 10. Selenium 200mcg daily (yes for me). > 11. Vitamin C with bioflavonoids 3000-5000 mg daily in divided doses. (I am > now only taking 1000mg). > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . > Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has > arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. > Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 1997 Report Share Posted June 16, 1997 So sorry Cathie -- I must have read that nitrates are a trigger for some people. And I was just wondering if nitrates are related to niacinamide. I'll be more careful with my posts. Misinformation regarding this problem is the last thing any of us need. Best regards, ---------- > > To: rosacea-supportegroups > Subject: Re: Re:possible causes... > Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 9:20 AM > > Yes, niacin and niacinamide are the same thing. It is vitamin B3. I have > never heard of this being a potential trigger - can you remember where this > info came from. A deficiency in niacin can lead to skin disorders, so the > negative connection to rosacea seems odd. > > Cathie > > STEPHEN YORK wrote: > > > I am curious, is niacin, a potential trigger for many rosacea sufferers, > > the same niacinamide, which is in all multivitamins? > > > > ---------- > > > > > > To: rosacea-supportegroups > > > Subject: Re: Re:possible causes... > > > Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 11:24 PM > > > > > > PAUL TOWNLEY-SMITH wrote: > > > > > > > I forgot that I also wanted to re-mention (is that a word?) that I > > started > > > > an extensive vitamin regimen when I started treating my rosacea, and I > > > > believe that it helps me keep it under control. I took my regimen from > > the > > > > following book: > > > > Prescription for Nutritional Healing by F. Balch MD and Phyllis > > A. > > > > Balch CNC > > > > (We're on page 462) They also give lots of information on the > > nutrients > > > > required during pregnancy (and any other condition you might be curious > > > > about), and as I've mentioned before, I had three kids really close > > together > > > > and my rosacea started when the third was born. When I found out how > > little > > > > there really is in the prenatal vit's I was prescribed, I wanted to > > strangle > > > > my doctor! > > > > Kerry > > > > > > > > > > I copied this out for someone else. If anyone is interested these are > > the > > > supplement recommendations from the book Kerry mentions above. I also > > follow > > > many of the recommendations. > > > > > > Very Important > > > 1. Evening Primrose Oil 500mg 3x daily. (I don't take this because it > > I get > > > a weird side effect not related to my face...but never heard of anyone > > else who > > > reacts to it). > > > 2. Vitamin A 25,000 IU daily for 3 months then reduce to 15,000IU. If > > > pregnant do not exceed 10,000IU. (I take the beta-carotene form, now > > only once > > > per day; I feel beta-carotene is safer). > > > 3. Vitamin B complex as directed on lable. (I take exactly that). > > > 4. extra Vitamin B12 100mcg 3 times daily (again, I now take this only > > > 1x/day). > > > Important > > > 1. Kelp 1000-1500mg daily (I take 1000) > > > 2. Multivitamin and mineral complex as directed on lable (yes for me). > > > 3. Vitamin E start with 400IU daily and increase slowly to 800IU (yes > > for me) > > > 4. Zinc 50 mg daily - do not exceed 100 mg daily from all supplement > > sources > > > (check your multi - I take about 40 mg) > > > Helpful > > > 1. Ageless beauty from Biotec Foods as directed on lable (I can't find > > this in > > > Canada). > > > 2. Aloe vera topical application as directed. (I don't use but others on > > site > > > have said they do - the book warns that some sufferers may react to > > this). > > > 3. Chlorophyll or alfalfa as directed on lable. (alfalfa for me). > > > 4. flaxseed oil capsules 1000mg daily or liquid 1 tsp daily (I take > > capsules). > > > > > > 5. GH3 cream from Gero Vita - topical as directed (can't find here). > > > 6. Herpanacine from Diamond-Herpanacine Associates as directed on lable > > (can't > > > find here). > > > 7. L-Cysteine 500mg daily, on an empty stomach. Take with water or > > juice. Do > > > not take with milk. Take with 50mg B6 and 100mg Vitamin C for better > > > absorption. Contains sulfur, needed for healthy skin. (I haven't tried > > this > > > yet). > > > 8. Lecithin 1200mg 3x daily before meals (I only do this in the morning) > > > 9. Proteolytic enzymes as directed on lable. take between meals (don't > > use) > > > 10. Selenium 200mcg daily (yes for me). > > > 11. Vitamin C with bioflavonoids 3000-5000 mg daily in divided doses. (I > > am > > > now only taking 1000mg). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . > > > Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has > > > arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. > > > Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 1997 Report Share Posted June 17, 1997 Kerry -- Put me on your list for poor nutrition in the past. My diet for the last fifteen years, even to my somewhat biased eyes, has been absolutely terrible. This may sound like an excuse, but I felt that I do not have time to eatr very well. At first it was graduate school and now it is a busy career that takes me late into the evening and weekends. Morover, when you are single, like me, there is no incentive to cook. Well, I suppose that will have to change. But that is why I asked if niacinamide poses a problem for rosacea, because I want to start taking a multivitamin and niacinamide is in all multivitamins. ---------- > > To: rosacea-supportegroups > Subject: Re: Re:possible causes... > Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 11:32 PM > > Thanks very much to all for your responses to my original posting. In > keeping with my nutritional deficiency theory, I am pleasantly surprised to > hear that there are in the group (by my count) 5 or 6 people who've fought > anorexia. Not that I'm pleased any of you have suffered with anorexia!!! > It's a very difficult condition to deal with. For one thing, if you are an > alcoholic or drug addict, you can never touch the stuff again, but food > addicts still have to eat every day for the rest of their lives! ( A few > years ago I was on CBC radio talking about this-under the code name " " > so as not to embarrass my parents-something I no longer worry about!) I > have been " well " in terms of eating disorders for about 8 years, but I am > still prone to binges (especially sugar binges) which are a disaster for > rosacea. Bulimia was the biggest disaster of all for me-almost killed me, > and most certainly was the start of my rosacea. Of course there are lots of > other causes of nutritional deficiency (things like celiac disease-any > celiacs out there? My husband and three kids have this, and it's possible > that I do too. It is also VERY common in the English/Irish population, and > is seriously underdiagnosed.) Does anyone else think that they might suffer > from nutritional deficiency from some cause other than eating disorders > which may contribute to their rosacea? > Thanks again for all of your responses. > Kerry > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Track your stocks and funds in a StockMaster portfolio. With easy > setup, you get quotes, charts, and news for them all on just one page. > No limits, fast loading, and FREE! http://www.stockmaster.com/?a=f8 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 1999 Report Share Posted February 13, 1999 PAUL TOWNLEY-SMITH wrote: > My personal history includes a few years of the eating disorders > anorexia and bulimia nervosa when I was a teenager. My perioral > dermatitis began during my bout with bulimia. I'm baring my soul > here, so come on all, don't make me feel silly. > Kerry Kerry- Well, I guess I will fess up too then. I had anorexia as a teenager (not bulimia) when the perioral dermatitis and rosacea started. Come to think of it, isn't Bill Clinton known for not following such a great diet? Remember all that stuff about him eating at Mcs so much? Donna G. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 1999 Report Share Posted February 13, 1999 PAUL TOWNLEY-SMITH wrote: > I forgot that I also wanted to re-mention (is that a word?) that I started > an extensive vitamin regimen when I started treating my rosacea, and I > believe that it helps me keep it under control. I took my regimen from the > following book: > Prescription for Nutritional Healing by F. Balch MD and Phyllis A. > Balch CNC > (We're on page 462) They also give lots of information on the nutrients > required during pregnancy (and any other condition you might be curious > about), and as I've mentioned before, I had three kids really close together > and my rosacea started when the third was born. When I found out how little > there really is in the prenatal vit's I was prescribed, I wanted to strangle > my doctor! > Kerry > I copied this out for someone else. If anyone is interested these are the supplement recommendations from the book Kerry mentions above. I also follow many of the recommendations. Very Important 1. Evening Primrose Oil 500mg 3x daily. (I don't take this because it I get a weird side effect not related to my face...but never heard of anyone else who reacts to it). 2. Vitamin A 25,000 IU daily for 3 months then reduce to 15,000IU. If pregnant do not exceed 10,000IU. (I take the beta-carotene form, now only once per day; I feel beta-carotene is safer). 3. Vitamin B complex as directed on lable. (I take exactly that). 4. extra Vitamin B12 100mcg 3 times daily (again, I now take this only 1x/day). Important 1. Kelp 1000-1500mg daily (I take 1000) 2. Multivitamin and mineral complex as directed on lable (yes for me). 3. Vitamin E start with 400IU daily and increase slowly to 800IU (yes for me) 4. Zinc 50 mg daily - do not exceed 100 mg daily from all supplement sources (check your multi - I take about 40 mg) Helpful 1. Ageless beauty from Biotec Foods as directed on lable (I can't find this in Canada). 2. Aloe vera topical application as directed. (I don't use but others on site have said they do - the book warns that some sufferers may react to this). 3. Chlorophyll or alfalfa as directed on lable. (alfalfa for me). 4. flaxseed oil capsules 1000mg daily or liquid 1 tsp daily (I take capsules). 5. GH3 cream from Gero Vita - topical as directed (can't find here). 6. Herpanacine from Diamond-Herpanacine Associates as directed on lable (can't find here). 7. L-Cysteine 500mg daily, on an empty stomach. Take with water or juice. Do not take with milk. Take with 50mg B6 and 100mg Vitamin C for better absorption. Contains sulfur, needed for healthy skin. (I haven't tried this yet). 8. Lecithin 1200mg 3x daily before meals (I only do this in the morning) 9. Proteolytic enzymes as directed on lable. take between meals (don't use) 10. Selenium 200mcg daily (yes for me). 11. Vitamin C with bioflavonoids 3000-5000 mg daily in divided doses. (I am now only taking 1000mg). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 1999 Report Share Posted February 13, 1999 PAUL TOWNLEY-SMITH wrote: > Hi all, > and one of the > examples she gives is zinc. She says that one of the things a zinc > deficiency can be responsible for is vascular disorders, and that deficiency > in zinc leads to other deficiencies, which may in turn cause other health > problems. > What do all of you think of nutritional deficiencies being at least partly > responsible for this condition? I would really like to hear from everybody > on this. > Kerry: I also take vitamins. Interestingly, when I added zinc to my routine (I added the supplements one at a time just in case one proved to be a trigger), my fingernails no longer broke and peeled. My skin did improve over time, but because I had just started my rosacea medication it is impossible for me to say that the vitamins were of benefit. I know that I will not discontinue taking them however. I really do think that overall, they have helped and lead to general improved health. My rosacea showed up at a time when I was under severe pressure at work. I was not eating in a healthy manner so could well have had deficits. I don't think you're silly at all; instead, I agree and really believe that that is one of the potential contributing factors. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 Wow! Hi All! I notice a lot of us had eating disorders while young. I did not have an eating disorder, but I was incredibly skinny. (93 lbs. and 5'6 " at 20). I am now almost 40, and a normal weight after my first. (Around 115 -- 120, although now I am about 128 -- 130). I wonder if this is a factor? At this point, who the he** knows. I guess I am just thinking out loud. Maureen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 I also was anorexic during my teens. I didn't have rosacea symptoms until I was 29. (I am 42 now.) Up until that time I got compliments on my " peaches and cream " complexion. I guess this is my payback for not having teenage skin problems! Cyd Re: Re:possible causes... > > >PAUL TOWNLEY-SMITH wrote: > >> My personal history includes a few years of the eating disorders >> anorexia and bulimia nervosa when I was a teenager. My perioral >> dermatitis began during my bout with bulimia. I'm baring my soul >> here, so come on all, don't make me feel silly. >> Kerry > >Kerry- > >Well, I guess I will fess up too then. I had anorexia as a teenager (not >bulimia) when the perioral dermatitis and rosacea started. > >Come to think of it, isn't Bill Clinton known for not following such a >great diet? Remember all that stuff about him eating at Mcs so >much? > >Donna G. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . >Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has >arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. >Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 Hi Carol, What is Mycelex-7? Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 snip Does anyone else think that they might >suffer >from nutritional deficiency from some cause other than eating >disorders >which may contribute to their rosacea? >Thanks again for all of your responses. >Kerry > no eating disorders for me...and mine is inherited i guess...because my father has a very mild case of it.... (untreated..and his complexion is much better than mine) nicki ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 Kerry, I'm back on the discs as a treatment; using in conjunction with Sy's program--and I think I'm doing pretty well. I've also stepped up my mineral supplementation program, along with extra zinc-vitaminA(the beta carotene)-vitaminD My skin is looking better than it has for MANY months, as I began to flare very badly last summer in July and NOTHING seemed to help. I'm also still taking the Candistroy and I do believe it's making a difference--helping with allergies a little. Per Esther's excellent information/suggestions, I began, just last night, to put a bit of Mycelex-7 rubbed onto my hands then applied to my face just before going to bed...I had been experimenting with the Mycelex, all week on my arms & since my arms seemed to " love " this stuff, thought I could begin to cautiously apply to my face--hey, it's Sunday, and I wasn't planning to be out anywhere; face looked GOOD this AM, so I'm thinking maybe my face likes this stuff, too. Still have appt to see a " 2nd opinion " dermatologist next month, to hopefully gain more information Carol ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 Kerry, I'm back on the discs as a treatment; using in conjunction with Sy's program--and I think I'm doing pretty well. I've also stepped up my mineral supplementation program, along with extra zinc-vitaminA(the beta carotene)-vitaminD My skin is looking better than it has for MANY months, as I began to flare very badly last summer in July and NOTHING seemed to help. I'm also still taking the Candistroy and I do believe it's making a difference--helping with allergies a little. Per Esther's excellent information/suggestions, I began, just last night, to put a bit of Mycelex-7 rubbed onto my hands then applied to my face just before going to bed...I had been experimenting with the Mycelex, all week on my arms & since my arms seemed to " love " this stuff, thought I could begin to cautiously apply to my face--hey, it's Sunday, and I wasn't planning to be out anywhere; face looked GOOD this AM, so I'm thinking maybe my face likes this stuff, too. Still have appt to see a " 2nd opinion " dermatologist next month, to hopefully gain more information Carol ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 Prescriptions for Healing is an excellent guide! It gives advice about herbs, vitamins, minerals--types of disorders, and which nutrients and programs might help Carol ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 In a message dated 2/14/99 6:22:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, tfvoigt@... writes: << I began, just last night, to put a bit of Mycelex-7 rubbed onto my hands then applied to my face just before going to bed...I had been experimenting with the Mycelex, all week on my arms & since my arms seemed to " love " this stuff, thought I could begin to cautiously apply to my face- >> Good luck. My face loves this stuff and it does clear seb/derm faster and gentler than anything else I ever tried. Hope it works for you too. Remember, with seb/derm, you are going to cure it and don't need to use the Mycelex endlessly. Once it's cleared, keep using it a few days and then stop. Cycle back on only when you need it. Esther ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 I agree with Esther. I took over 100 mgs of zinc as a teenager for my acne. A doctor told me that that high a dosage interferes with iron absorption. I have anemia now and wonder if the zinc megadoses caused it. Matija ---Esther231@... wrote: > > Be careful when adding in zinc supplements. It's one of those things that a > little is good, alot is bad. We had a poster on the board a couple of months > ago who got into serious trouble taking too much zinc. So easy does it! > HTH > Esther > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . > Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has > arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. > Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 I agree with Esther. I took over 100 mgs of zinc as a teenager for my acne. A doctor told me that that high a dosage interferes with iron absorption. I have anemia now and wonder if the zinc megadoses caused it. Matija ---Esther231@... wrote: > > Be careful when adding in zinc supplements. It's one of those things that a > little is good, alot is bad. We had a poster on the board a couple of months > ago who got into serious trouble taking too much zinc. So easy does it! > HTH > Esther > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . > Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has > arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. > Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 No problem . There are so many things we have to watch out for, who would keep track. I am glad that niacin is okay, because our bodies definitely need it. Nitrates are not related to niacin or niacinamide as far as I remember from my chemistry classes in university. They are a product found in smoked meats (and hot dogs) and BBQ's meats. Others may be able to provide more info. Cathie STEPHEN YORK wrote: > So sorry Cathie -- I must have read that nitrates are a trigger for some > people. And I was just wondering if nitrates are related to niacinamide. > I'll be more careful with my posts. Misinformation regarding this problem > is the last thing any of us need. Best regards, > > ---------- > > > > To: rosacea-supportegroups > > Subject: Re: Re:possible causes... > > Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 9:20 AM > > > > Yes, niacin and niacinamide are the same thing. It is vitamin B3. I > have > > never heard of this being a potential trigger - can you remember where > this > > info came from. A deficiency in niacin can lead to skin disorders, so > the > > negative connection to rosacea seems odd. > > > > Cathie > > > > STEPHEN YORK wrote: > > > > > I am curious, is niacin, a potential trigger for many rosacea > sufferers, > > > the same niacinamide, which is in all multivitamins? > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > To: rosacea-supportegroups > > > > Subject: Re: Re:possible causes... > > > > Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 11:24 PM > > > > > > > > PAUL TOWNLEY-SMITH wrote: > > > > > > > > > I forgot that I also wanted to re-mention (is that a word?) that I > > > started > > > > > an extensive vitamin regimen when I started treating my rosacea, > and I > > > > > believe that it helps me keep it under control. I took my regimen > from > > > the > > > > > following book: > > > > > Prescription for Nutritional Healing by F. Balch MD and > Phyllis > > > A. > > > > > Balch CNC > > > > > (We're on page 462) They also give lots of information on the > > > nutrients > > > > > required during pregnancy (and any other condition you might be > curious > > > > > about), and as I've mentioned before, I had three kids really close > > > together > > > > > and my rosacea started when the third was born. When I found out > how > > > little > > > > > there really is in the prenatal vit's I was prescribed, I wanted to > > > strangle > > > > > my doctor! > > > > > Kerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > I copied this out for someone else. If anyone is interested these > are > > > the > > > > supplement recommendations from the book Kerry mentions above. I > also > > > follow > > > > many of the recommendations. > > > > > > > > Very Important > > > > 1. Evening Primrose Oil 500mg 3x daily. (I don't take this > because it > > > I get > > > > a weird side effect not related to my face...but never heard of > anyone > > > else who > > > > reacts to it). > > > > 2. Vitamin A 25,000 IU daily for 3 months then reduce to 15,000IU. > If > > > > pregnant do not exceed 10,000IU. (I take the beta-carotene form, now > > > only once > > > > per day; I feel beta-carotene is safer). > > > > 3. Vitamin B complex as directed on lable. (I take exactly that). > > > > 4. extra Vitamin B12 100mcg 3 times daily (again, I now take this > only > > > > 1x/day). > > > > Important > > > > 1. Kelp 1000-1500mg daily (I take 1000) > > > > 2. Multivitamin and mineral complex as directed on lable (yes for > me). > > > > 3. Vitamin E start with 400IU daily and increase slowly to 800IU > (yes > > > for me) > > > > 4. Zinc 50 mg daily - do not exceed 100 mg daily from all supplement > > > sources > > > > (check your multi - I take about 40 mg) > > > > Helpful > > > > 1. Ageless beauty from Biotec Foods as directed on lable (I can't > find > > > this in > > > > Canada). > > > > 2. Aloe vera topical application as directed. (I don't use but others > on > > > site > > > > have said they do - the book warns that some sufferers may react to > > > this). > > > > 3. Chlorophyll or alfalfa as directed on lable. (alfalfa for me). > > > > 4. flaxseed oil capsules 1000mg daily or liquid 1 tsp daily (I take > > > capsules). > > > > > > > > 5. GH3 cream from Gero Vita - topical as directed (can't find here). > > > > 6. Herpanacine from Diamond-Herpanacine Associates as directed on > lable > > > (can't > > > > find here). > > > > 7. L-Cysteine 500mg daily, on an empty stomach. Take with water or > > > juice. Do > > > > not take with milk. Take with 50mg B6 and 100mg Vitamin C for better > > > > absorption. Contains sulfur, needed for healthy skin. (I haven't > tried > > > this > > > > yet). > > > > 8. Lecithin 1200mg 3x daily before meals (I only do this in the > morning) > > > > 9. Proteolytic enzymes as directed on lable. take between meals > (don't > > > use) > > > > 10. Selenium 200mcg daily (yes for me). > > > > 11. Vitamin C with bioflavonoids 3000-5000 mg daily in divided > doses. (I > > > am > > > > now only taking 1000mg). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . > > > > Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has > > > > arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. > > > > Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 Thanks very much to all for your responses to my original posting. In keeping with my nutritional deficiency theory, I am pleasantly surprised to hear that there are in the group (by my count) 5 or 6 people who've fought anorexia. Not that I'm pleased any of you have suffered with anorexia!!! It's a very difficult condition to deal with. For one thing, if you are an alcoholic or drug addict, you can never touch the stuff again, but food addicts still have to eat every day for the rest of their lives! ( A few years ago I was on CBC radio talking about this-under the code name " " so as not to embarrass my parents-something I no longer worry about!) I have been " well " in terms of eating disorders for about 8 years, but I am still prone to binges (especially sugar binges) which are a disaster for rosacea. Bulimia was the biggest disaster of all for me-almost killed me, and most certainly was the start of my rosacea. Of course there are lots of other causes of nutritional deficiency (things like celiac disease-any celiacs out there? My husband and three kids have this, and it's possible that I do too. It is also VERY common in the English/Irish population, and is seriously underdiagnosed.) Does anyone else think that they might suffer from nutritional deficiency from some cause other than eating disorders which may contribute to their rosacea? Thanks again for all of your responses. Kerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 PAUL TOWNLEY-SMITH wrote: Does anyone else think that they might suffer from nutritional deficiency from some cause other than eating disorders which may contribute to their rosacea? Kerry- I would have to say that my diet is probably not the most nutritious. However, I have resolved to try hard to eat better and see if it helps. I have been doing better good this week. I am trying to eat more vegetables. I have gotten my rosacea to go into a kind of a remission about 2 other times before by eating a healthy diet and avoiding food triggers. However, when I get busy at work, etc. I tend to slack off on cooking as much and eat out more. Donna G. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 1999 Report Share Posted February 14, 1999 Donna G. wrote: I have been doing better good this week. better good? That's a new word..... Donna G. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 1999 Report Share Posted February 15, 1999 Endometriosis/anemea. Anemea, I have, I know and am having blood tests done next Monday. Could it be related to my just diagnosed cea? What is this Endometriosis, could you provide info.? Thanks for your participation . Gail ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 1999 Report Share Posted February 15, 1999 I have endometriosis and have fought severe anemia (forever.) I finally had endometrial ablation last year to try to make my cycles more manageable. I read somewhere that women who have red hair (Like me) are more prone to rosacea and endometriosis too. It said this was tied to the immune system somehow. I think I read this in Women's World magazine. I thought it was really interesting. Cyd Re: Re:possible causes... >snip > Does anyone else think that they might >>suffer >>from nutritional deficiency from some cause other than eating >>disorders >>which may contribute to their rosacea? >>Thanks again for all of your responses. >>Kerry >> >no eating disorders for me...and mine is inherited i guess...because my >father has a very mild case of it.... >(untreated..and his complexion is much better than mine) > >nicki >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . >Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has >arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. >Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 1999 Report Share Posted February 15, 1999 Gail, Endometriosis is a condition of the fallopian tubes. During mentstruation the fallopian tubes get blocked by an excess of matter (I don't know if it's the cells of the reproductive area, the unfertilized egg or clumps of blood) which causes heavier bleeding and more pain during a period. I was checked for this and thank god don't have it. (My periods were awful!!) I'm glad you're getting it checked out. My anemia is linked to my underactive thyroid. I don't know what the connection is though. Maybe somebody knows perhaps? When I go through my anemia when I forget to take my iron pills or don't eat much red meat, my rosacea improves! Of course, I look as white as a ghost. If you have heavy bleeding during your period that could be causing the anemia. My periods were heavy and painful. I found by taking lots of calcium (drinking milk, soyfoods and yogurt if these aren't your triggers) seems to reduce the flow and cramping alot. Taking ibuprofin for the pain is supposed to make your bleeding heavier too. It was a vicious cycle! Good luck and let us know how things work out. Matija :-) ---Ggordon46@... wrote: > > Endometriosis/anemea. Anemea, I have, I know and am having blood tests > done next Monday. Could it be related to my just diagnosed cea? What is > this Endometriosis, could you provide info.? Thanks for your participation . > Gail > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . > Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has > arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. > Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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