newbie

October 13, 1999

what does WLS stand for??????

October 13, 1999

WLS= weight loss surgery

Karin Eby MGB 9/20

Re: Newbie

> From: Deckbound@...

>

> what does WLS stand for??????

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com

>

October 19, 1999

Hi everyone. I have researching the MGB surgery for a couple of months now

and am ready to get everything rolling. I have just changed jobs, therefore

changing insurance companies from Aetna to Prudential. Actually my insurance

goes into effect 11/30. From the looks of the previous messages, I might be

up for a battle with my insurance company. I'm not worried about that. I have

a few questions… how was the pain (really?) I have never had surgery and am

the biggest wuss in the world. But from what I have read, Dr. R and his staff

are wonderful. I am getting married in a little over a year and want to have

children w/in the next couple of years. I plan to ask the doctor about that;

but was wondering if anyone had input about having children after the surgery.

Talk to you later!

October 19, 1999

Hi:

I had the surgery March 5, 1999. I remember as I was coming out from the

anethesia my sister hit the morphine pump for me. Other than that time, I had

no pain and did not use the pump at all. It was almost painless. I was up

walking the hall that evening. I have seen posts from ladies who have had

children after the surgery. I am sure some of them could tell you more about

that. I have lost 85 lbs since March 5. What a wonderful feeling. I can climb

the stairs from the parking lot, mow my lawn and do lots of other things I could

not previously do. I feel so much better. I had no problems, no complications

at all.

Good luck.

Frances Rountree

Dept. of Pathology & Lab Medicine

UNC-Chapel Hill

-- Begin original message --

> From: blessj@...

> Date: 19 Oct 1999 15:58:53 -0000

> Subject: newbie

> To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

> Reply-to: MiniGastricBypassonelist

>

> From: blessj@...

>

> Hi everyone. I have researching the MGB surgery for a couple of months now

> and am ready to get everything rolling. I have just changed jobs, therefore

> changing insurance companies from Aetna to Prudential. Actually my insurance

>

> goes into effect 11/30. From the looks of the previous messages, I might be

> up for a battle with my insurance company. I'm not worried about that. I

> have

> a few questions… how was the pain (really?) I have never had surgery and am

> the biggest wuss in the world. But from what I have read, Dr. R and his

> staff

> are wonderful. I am getting married in a little over a year and want to have

>

> children w/in the next couple of years. I plan to ask the doctor about that;

>

> but was wondering if anyone had input about having children after the

> surgery.

> Talk to you later!

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

>

-- End original message --

October 19, 1999

blessj@...

You didn't include your name.... I have Prudential and depending on the

policy, you may not have a lot of trouble. Once all of the dr.s got

credentialed with Prudential, I had an answer in about 24 hours....

Hope your submission for insurance goes as well...

As for pain, beleive it or not, there really isn't much pain. It's a

little uncomfortable for a while, but actual pain is really very minimal.

I'm a veteran of 5 major surgeries and this one was a piece of cake as far

as pain goes. Put you mind at ease about that. Plus, while in the

hospital, they have you hooked up to a wonderful morphine pump so you can

regulate your own pain medication.

You will need to ask Dr.Rutledge about having kids.....

Good luck to you,

Tina

May 22, 2008

Therese welcome to the group so glad you are here this is a wonderfully caring supportive group. Eva

Dear Group, I am so glad to have found you, because I have no one to talk to about this. I'm surethere are some of you who have lived my situation, so I'm hoping to feel not so alone.My relationship with food has been friendlymost of my life. I was always very thin, andused to TRY to gain weight in high school because of it. I got quite used to all my friends envying my ability to eat anythingand everything and never gain an ounce. I didn'trealize this was becoming so important to myidentity.I went through a bad 4-yr marriage in my late20's, early 30's, and gained 10-12 pounds abovemy high school weight of 110 (I'm 5'7"). Thedivorce melted it all away, and I was afraid Imight have an eating disorder, because I so completely lost interest in food for the firstfew months after the divorce that I had to havefriends come and take me to the grocery when Ihad absolutely nothing to eat in the house. Icouldn't make myself go.That stage passed. I started dating and slowlythe weight returned. It took about 10 years toget to 119 or so, and I was pretty happy with the weight.However, an aside here. During this time I hada terrible caffeine and Diet Coke addiction thatI was unable to beat. This brings us to being 40, getting pregnant, and having the residual baby belly fat afterward.There was a roll that would not budge. Over thelast 6 years, this roll has increased alarmingly.I now weigh 126. I KNOW this seems great to a lotof people, but for the first time I am not able to wear the clothes I had last year, my gut seemshuge to me, I am noticebly gaining weight and Iam so freaked out. I'm so MAD!!I have joined a gym. Hate it. Hate exercising andalways have. I have never been into my body, alwaysmy head--always an "intellectual" approach to life.Very spiritual, too. I do yoga once a week. I've tried dancing, but there's nothing regular to stickto there.Another factor. When baby came along, I becameabsolutely obsessed with nutrition. Partly becauseI wanted to be the perfect mother, and partly becauseI hoped I could "cure" my depression and mood issuesby eliminating sugar and wheat from my diet. Eatingonly organic, etc. You know the routine!So now I find myself cooking this way for my daughterand feeding myself any crap I can find. I binge, Isneak food, I eat when I'm not hungry, I stuff myselfwith restaurant food even after I'm full.Another telling point: my mother was anorexic, thenbulemic all during my high school years and into mycollege years. I want to go back to my carefree attitude about food, but I'm wondering now if all those years I was reallyovereating, and just not aware of it because I didn'thave to pay the price of weight gain? I could haveturned to food because of a horrible unhappy childhood(father beat mother, other crap, too, though no sexualabuse, thank god!).Help, ladies (and gents) PLEASE!!Therese------------------------------------

May 22, 2008

Welcome Therese! I am happy that you have found a group like this one

to support you in your food/eating related concerns and needs. I found

your story very much like others I have read here too. Feel free to

post (talk) about anything you want to here and I'm sure you will find

good replies to help you find YOUR way.

In case you haven't found any other reference information, there is a

Book List here at the group site. Go to the Files link in the left

hand column.

Looking forward to reading more posts from you too

Best wishes - Katcha

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I am so glad to have found you, because I

> have no one to talk to about this. I'm sure

> there are some of you who have lived my

> situation, so I'm hoping to feel not so alone.

>

> My relationship with food has been friendly

> most of my life. I was always very thin, and

> used to TRY to gain weight in high school

> because of it. I got quite used to all my

> friends envying my ability to eat anything

> and everything and never gain an ounce. I didn't

> realize this was becoming so important to my

> identity.

>

> I went through a bad 4-yr marriage in my late

> 20's, early 30's, and gained 10-12 pounds above

> my high school weight of 110 (I'm 5'7 " ). The

> divorce melted it all away, and I was afraid I

> might have an eating disorder, because I so

> completely lost interest in food for the first

> few months after the divorce that I had to have

> friends come and take me to the grocery when I

> had absolutely nothing to eat in the house. I

> couldn't make myself go.

>

> That stage passed. I started dating and slowly

> the weight returned. It took about 10 years to

> get to 119 or so, and I was pretty happy with

> the weight.

>

> However, an aside here. During this time I had

> a terrible caffeine and Diet Coke addiction that

> I was unable to beat.

>

> This brings us to being 40, getting pregnant,

> and having the residual baby belly fat afterward.

> There was a roll that would not budge. Over the

> last 6 years, this roll has increased alarmingly.

>

> I now weigh 126. I KNOW this seems great to a lot

> of people, but for the first time I am not able

> to wear the clothes I had last year, my gut seems

> huge to me, I am noticebly gaining weight and I

> am so freaked out. I'm so MAD!!

>

> I have joined a gym. Hate it. Hate exercising and

> always have. I have never been into my body, always

> my head--always an " intellectual " approach to life.

> Very spiritual, too. I do yoga once a week. I've

> tried dancing, but there's nothing regular to stick

> to there.

>

> Another factor. When baby came along, I became

> absolutely obsessed with nutrition. Partly because

> I wanted to be the perfect mother, and partly because

> I hoped I could " cure " my depression and mood issues

> by eliminating sugar and wheat from my diet. Eating

> only organic, etc. You know the routine!

>

> So now I find myself cooking this way for my daughter

> and feeding myself any crap I can find. I binge, I

> sneak food, I eat when I'm not hungry, I stuff myself

> with restaurant food even after I'm full.

>

> Another telling point: my mother was anorexic, then

> bulemic all during my high school years and into my

> college years.

>

> I want to go back to my carefree attitude about food,

> but I'm wondering now if all those years I was really

> overeating, and just not aware of it because I didn't

> have to pay the price of weight gain? I could have

> turned to food because of a horrible unhappy childhood

> (father beat mother, other crap, too, though no sexual

> abuse, thank god!).

>

> Help, ladies (and gents) PLEASE!!

>

> Therese

>

May 23, 2008

Hi Trish,

My name is Martha, and I'm around your age, (I will be sixty in a few

months) so I thought maybe we could encourage each other. I've been

working on becoming an intuitive eater for a little over a month now,

maybe closer to two months. I tend to lose track of time. Before

that, I was so fed up with dieting, weighing and counting everything

I ate. I just wanted off the diet merry(or not so merry)-go round.

I have tried just about every diet out there, and lost lots of

weight, but the weight always came back over time. Anyway I was

doing a lot of thinking and trying to figure out how I could stop

dieting and wrestling with " to diet, or not to diet " when someone

told me about Intuitive Eating, and also Thin Within. Both books are

good in their own way, but I have found the principles in Intuitive

eating so easy to understand, just what I was looking for. To make a

long story short, I've been working on putting what I've learned into

practice and doing pretty good. I've lost some weight, and love the

freedom of not dieting. I've made up my mind that I will never diet

again, ever! I am reading everything I can find on eating intuitivly

and taking it one day at a time. There is lots more that I could

say, but I'll save it for another time. Feel free to email me if you

like and we could talk more one on one.

Have a great day!

Martha

>

> Hi Everybody,

>

> My name is ... go by most of the nicknames. DH calls me

> Trish. I am 64 years old and just learned about Intuitive eating

> today. I haven't read the book, but plan to get info off the

> website. I ordered the book from Amazon.com yesterday so hopefully

I

> wil have it sometime next week.

>

> I was thin the first 22 years of my life and never had a

> weight problem until I was told I had to eat three meals a day.

Never

> ate breakfast and only ate when I was hungry until then. Everyone

> around me from that time on loved to eat. Late husband of 31 years

> would eat just about anything and loved to eat. Lost weight from

> time to time, but never was able to keep it off. He believed we

had

> to have 3 meals a day. New hubby of last 5 years doesn't eat 3

meals

> a day and doesn't think you have to which is a plus in my favor. He

> eats one main meal a day and then a few snacks.

>

> I am one of those peole who has gained weight doing WW, SBD, Sugar

> Busters and Atkins. Tried every diet out there I think. If I

haven't

> it is only because I hadn't heard of it yet. Had a doctor give me

a

> diet once and I followed it to the letter. I knew it was too much

> food when he gave it to me but I did it and sure enough I gained

> weight. He was so furious with me and accused me of cheating. I

went

> home in tears and feeling hopeless... NEVER WENT TO HIM AGAIN. My

> skinny SIL looked at most of the diets and said " I couldn't eat all

> that food. I'd gain weight if I did " . I never thought that the

> problem could be the diet. I just thought something was wrong with

> me.

>

> The only time I have ever lost weight (got back down to 150 lbs once

> and 170 once and 175 a few years ago) and did it mostly not eating

> unless I was hungry. I have both of Joyce Meyer's Books which tells

> you to eat only when hungry and to feel free to eat. I have to

admit

> that when I read that it scared the heck out of me. Free to eat?

It

> sounded crazy. How could that work? And yet I am so tired of

> dieting. And now after WW and SBD which I can't stick t 100% and I

am

> back up to 220 lbs. I just can't eat all the food most especilly

> these diets say " YOU MUST EAT " . Example, WW says you must eat

total

> Points even when you're not hungry.

>

> Wrote on another goup site that I'm tired of diets and just can't

> seem to stick with any one plan 100% any more and that I had

decided

> tha I am going to start eating just when I'm hungry. (DH panicked

> when I said NO MORE DIETS.) A lady on that site told me about

> Intuitive Eating and said it might be what I'm looking for. And

here

> I am.

>

> I would like to know how this is working for others especially

> someone around my age. Is there any one here around my age of 64

that

> this is working for? In my search, I have found other groups, but

> yours seems to be the most active which is what I need and desire

to

> be a part of. I have a lot to learn from you and I hope to be able

> to receive and give support here as well.

>

> Thanks,

> Trish

>

May 24, 2008

Hi Carol,

Sorry you are feeling discouraged. Just don't give up! I've been

trying to get slim and stay slim for over 40 years now. Know what

the crazy thing is? When I started to try to get slim I was already

slim and didn't even know it. I was looking at some old pics with my

daughter last night and found some of me when I was about 19 or 20

and I though, " You know I looked pretty good then. I was really

pretty slim, probably about 145 lbs, mabye 150. I am 5'6 " and have

big bones, so people have always thought I weighed less than I did.

Anyway, the point is that I thought I was fat even when I wasn't and

because of negitive thinking about myself I made myself become what I

thought I was. Does that make sense? So...what I'm trying to say is

don't beat yourself up because you are still not where you want to

be. I'm sure you are a beautiful person just like you are and every

positive step you take is a step in the right direction.

Hugs,

Martha

\ In IntuitiveEating_Support , " Carol "

wrote:

>

> Hi Trish and Martha. I'm 59 and the other day I thought to myself

> that I have known about IE for 20yr. and still don't have it down.

> Feeling a little discouraged today.

>

> > >

> > > Hi Everybody,

> > >

> > > My name is ... go by most of the nicknames. DH calls me

> > > Trish. I am 64 years old and just learned about Intuitive eating

> > > today. I haven't read the book, but plan to get info off the

> > > website. I ordered the book from Amazon.com yesterday so

> hopefully

> > I

> > > wil have it sometime next week.

> > >

> > > I was thin the first 22 years of my life and never had a

> > > weight problem until I was told I had to eat three meals a day.

> > Never

> > > ate breakfast and only ate when I was hungry until then.

Everyone

> > > around me from that time on loved to eat. Late husband of 31

> years

> > > would eat just about anything and loved to eat. Lost weight

from

> > > time to time, but never was able to keep it off. He believed

we

> > had

> > > to have 3 meals a day. New hubby of last 5 years doesn't eat 3

> > meals

> > > a day and doesn't think you have to which is a plus in my

favor.

> He

> > > eats one main meal a day and then a few snacks.

> > >

> > > I am one of those peole who has gained weight doing WW, SBD,

> Sugar

> > > Busters and Atkins. Tried every diet out there I think. If I

> > haven't

> > > it is only because I hadn't heard of it yet. Had a doctor give

> me

> > a

> > > diet once and I followed it to the letter. I knew it was too

much

> > > food when he gave it to me but I did it and sure enough I

gained

> > > weight. He was so furious with me and accused me of cheating. I

> > went

> > > home in tears and feeling hopeless... NEVER WENT TO HIM AGAIN.

My

> > > skinny SIL looked at most of the diets and said " I couldn't eat

> all

> > > that food. I'd gain weight if I did " . I never thought that the

> > > problem could be the diet. I just thought something was wrong

> with

> > > me.

> > >

> > > The only time I have ever lost weight (got back down to 150 lbs

> once

> > > and 170 once and 175 a few years ago) and did it mostly not

eating

> > > unless I was hungry. I have both of Joyce Meyer's Books which

> tells

> > > you to eat only when hungry and to feel free to eat. I have to

> > admit

> > > that when I read that it scared the heck out of me. Free to

> eat?

> > It

> > > sounded crazy. How could that work? And yet I am so tired of

> > > dieting. And now after WW and SBD which I can't stick t 100%

and

> I

> > am

> > > back up to 220 lbs. I just can't eat all the food most

especilly

> > > these diets say " YOU MUST EAT " . Example, WW says you must eat

> > total

> > > Points even when you're not hungry.

> > >

> > > Wrote on another goup site that I'm tired of diets and just

can't

> > > seem to stick with any one plan 100% any more and that I had

> > decided

> > > tha I am going to start eating just when I'm hungry. (DH

panicked

> > > when I said NO MORE DIETS.) A lady on that site told me about

> > > Intuitive Eating and said it might be what I'm looking for. And

> > here

> > > I am.

> > >

> > > I would like to know how this is working for others especially

> > > someone around my age. Is there any one here around my age of

64

> > that

> > > this is working for? In my search, I have found other groups,

> but

> > > yours seems to be the most active which is what I need and

desire

> > to

> > > be a part of. I have a lot to learn from you and I hope to be

> able

> > > to receive and give support here as well.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Trish

> > >

> >

>

May 24, 2008