Re: Medical vs. Public Safety: 20 Reasons Why We're Medical...

[Guest guest]

If we truly are public safety professionals, then EMS should be funded fully

and completely as a public safety entity. Carrying that theme to its logical

conclusion, there would be no private EMS agencies. Or else private EMS

agencies would occupy the same position and status as private security

agencies do.

Bottom line: We need to develop an identity and stick with it. Right now

everybody loves us but nobody wants to feed us.

Gene G.

[Guest guest]

And some of us are getting dang tired of going hungry.

Donn

Re: Re: Medical vs. Public Safety: 20 Reasons Why

We're Medical...

If we truly are public safety professionals, then EMS should be funded fully

and completely as a public safety entity. Carrying that theme to its

logical

conclusion, there would be no private EMS agencies. Or else private EMS

agencies would occupy the same position and status as private security

agencies do.

Bottom line: We need to develop an identity and stick with it. Right now

everybody loves us but nobody wants to feed us.

Gene G.

[Guest guest]

Remember, if you're an employee of the state/local government, you're

considered a public servant. Assault on a public servant is a higher

classification of assault.

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JA

[Guest guest]

TYPO! Feel free to flame.

Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD (got the right abbreviations this time)

[Guest guest]

> If we truly are public safety professionals, then EMS should be

funded fully

> and completely as a public safety entity. Carrying that theme to

its logical

> conclusion, there would be no private EMS agencies. Or else

private EMS

> agencies would occupy the same position and status as private

security

> agencies do.

>

> Bottom line: We need to develop an identity and stick with it.

Right now

> everybody loves us but nobody wants to feed us.

>

> Gene G.

[Guest guest]

> If we truly are public safety professionals, then EMS should be

funded fully

> and completely as a public safety entity. Carrying that theme to

its logical

> conclusion, there would be no private EMS agencies. Or else

private EMS

> agencies would occupy the same position and status as private

security

> agencies do.

>

> Bottom line: We need to develop an identity and stick with it.

Right now

> everybody loves us but nobody wants to feed us.

>

> Gene G.

[Guest guest]

Not all medical professionals are as you put it " fed " well. Many

allied health professionals with advanced university degrees make

less than ideal wages. I know of many people with master degrees in

many health disciplines that make the same wages or less than a

paramedic.

The other two branches of public safety (the fire service and law

enforcement) have had over two hundred years of history and started

out as less than desirable career choices.

Having a debate over what to call ourselves will not change our

perceived status in the medical community. Getting organized and

working with the communities leadership - political and medical is

the way to change our status. In communities with strong public

safety based EMS service we are indeed " fed " well both financially

and professionally.

I am confused as to why someone would be offended to be called a part

of the public safety team.

ajl

-- In @y..., wegandy@a... wrote:

> If we truly are public safety professionals, then EMS should be

funded fully

> and completely as a public safety entity. Carrying that theme to

its logical

> conclusion, there would be no private EMS agencies. Or else

private EMS

> agencies would occupy the same position and status as private

security

> agencies do.

>

> Bottom line: We need to develop an identity and stick with it.

Right now

> everybody loves us but nobody wants to feed us.

>

> Gene G.

[Guest guest]

I've read every post on this subject and have seen none of the participants

in this little debate claim to be offended by anything. We merely debate the

perceptions we have of ourselves and of our trade. It is good for us to be

able to use this forum for an exchange of thoughts as we can all learn

something more about our colleagues.

Regards,

Donn

Re: Medical vs. Public Safety: 20 Reasons Why

We're Medical...

Not all medical professionals are as you put it " fed " well. Many

allied health professionals with advanced university degrees make

less than ideal wages. I know of many people with master degrees in

many health disciplines that make the same wages or less than a

paramedic.

The other two branches of public safety (the fire service and law

enforcement) have had over two hundred years of history and started

out as less than desirable career choices.

Having a debate over what to call ourselves will not change our

perceived status in the medical community. Getting organized and

working with the communities leadership - political and medical is

the way to change our status. In communities with strong public

safety based EMS service we are indeed " fed " well both financially

and professionally.

I am confused as to why someone would be offended to be called a part

of the public safety team.

ajl

-- In @y..., wegandy@a... wrote:

> If we truly are public safety professionals, then EMS should be

funded fully

> and completely as a public safety entity. Carrying that theme to

its logical

> conclusion, there would be no private EMS agencies. Or else

private EMS

> agencies would occupy the same position and status as private

security

> agencies do.

>

> Bottom line: We need to develop an identity and stick with it.

Right now

> everybody loves us but nobody wants to feed us.

>

> Gene G.

[Guest guest]

Just a thought...

A Tarrant Country prosecuter told me that the assault

of a provider for a private EMS company fell under the

same laws as assault of a security guard. If the

provider had worked for a city/county, the charges

would have been different.

Connie

--- wegandy@... wrote:

> If we truly are public safety professionals, then

> EMS should be funded fully

> and completely as a public safety entity. Carrying

> that theme to its logical

> conclusion, there would be no private EMS agencies.

> Or else private EMS

> agencies would occupy the same position and status

> as private security

> agencies do.

>

> Bottom line: We need to develop an identity and

> stick with it. Right now

> everybody loves us but nobody wants to feed us.

>

> Gene G.

>

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