Re: Desitin

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I'm seriously considering switching to the cea Ltd disks to go through a

pregnancy-does anyone know if they are considered safe to use during

pregnancy?

Kerry

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In a message dated 4/12/99 10:14:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ccarlet@... writes:

<< You actually put Desitin on your face?? >>

Of course. Don't you? Desitin is very high in zinc oxide which seems to

help me alot. I can't use Desitin so I use zinc oxide with vaseline.

Others do better with calamine lotion, some with creams with zinc oxide in

it. You gotta go slow and test products till you find the right one for you.

Do test. Pretty please. Zinc oxide, for example, does have mineral oil in

it. For some people, that's a trigger. Desitin has other triggers and on

and on. So test this first before you use it all over your face. And do it

during the day the first time or two, not when you are going to bed, so you

can rinse in a hurry if you need to. I wash my face and apply the zinc oxide

and vaseline over damp skin. My skin loves it. And I have no permanent

redness.

I do also credit antihistamines, alot, with helping to tone down the redness

though and avoiding flaring.

HTH

Esther

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In a message dated 4/12/99 10:14:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ccarlet@... writes:

<< You actually put Desitin on your face?? >>

Of course. Don't you? Desitin is very high in zinc oxide which seems to

help me alot. I can't use Desitin so I use zinc oxide with vaseline.

Others do better with calamine lotion, some with creams with zinc oxide in

it. You gotta go slow and test products till you find the right one for you.

Do test. Pretty please. Zinc oxide, for example, does have mineral oil in

it. For some people, that's a trigger. Desitin has other triggers and on

and on. So test this first before you use it all over your face. And do it

during the day the first time or two, not when you are going to bed, so you

can rinse in a hurry if you need to. I wash my face and apply the zinc oxide

and vaseline over damp skin. My skin loves it. And I have no permanent

redness.

I do also credit antihistamines, alot, with helping to tone down the redness

though and avoiding flaring.

HTH

Esther

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Hi CAC,

Yes, I actually put it on my face. I was sceptical when I first took the

tube in my hand and looked at how thick the desitin is, but it has made a

tremendous difference to my skin. Some people in the group have reacted to

other ingredients in desitin, and there are many other " bum cream "

formulations if Desitin brand doesn't work for you. I used it on a small

spot for several days before taking the plunge and putting in on my whole

face. I have used it every night now for probably six months and it has

changed my life! This is what I do:

I use it only once a day at bedtime.

I wash as usual and let my face dry.

I apply my metrogel and let it dry 20 minutes or so.

I moisturize with Oil of Olay for sensitive skin (which I like for the

dimethicone in it)

I apply a very thin layer of desitin.

In the morning, I wash as usual, but the desitin does not wash off. I wipe

it off very gently with a soft towel while my face is wet-I know, we're not

supposed to wipe, but it has not had any negative impact on my skin. I then

let my face dry and apply my daytime regimen. I highly recommend using some

kind of zinc cream, especially for redness. Good luck.

Kerry

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Kerry,

Thanks for the info. I take it that you mean the

ointment, then. I didn't even look at the zinc content

of the ointment! I will, however, on my next shopping

trip; there's just so much on the shelves, and who knows, huh? As I'd

mentioned, it is almost impossible

to find my " Nutraplus " lotion and cream by Galderma anymore--I'm one of

those people who can tolerate and

actually thrive, skinwise, on the urea lotion--the

alpha-hydroxy's drive my skin into intense itching, but

almost everything now, it seems, has the alpha-hydroxy's in it, so labels

have to be read closely (difficult with bad vision, but I do try)

Carol

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Hi group,

I have this book that's called " Cosmetic Ingredients " by Ruth Winter, M.S.

According to her book: (Some of the ingredients in Desitin)

zinc oxide-used medically as an astringent, antiseptic and protective in skin

diseases. Because of it's " astringent " qualities, may be " unsuitable " for dry

skins! Generally harmless, however, when used in cosmetics. FDA proposed a

" ban " in 1992 for the use of z.o. to treat insect bites and stings because it

has not been shown to be " safe and effective " for stated claims in OTC products!

Hmmm????

Mineral Oil - It is a mixture of refined " hydrocarbons derived from petroleum "

(hardly anything that seems good for a sensitive face) When heated, smells like

petroleum. Stays on top of the skin to leave a shiny protective surface.

Nontoxic.

Dimethicone - a " silicone " oil (ugh, I've had my share of silicone). Very low

toxicity.

Glycerin - Any by-product of soap manufacture. A solvent, humectant and

emollient in many cosmetics, it absorbs moisture from the air. The FDA issued a

notice in 1992 that glycerin has not been shown to be safe and effective as

claimed in OTC poison ivy, poison oak, and poison sumac products as well as in

" diaper rash drug products " !

Petroleum (didn't find a " white " petroleum. Won't type out the whole thing.

Condensed, it helps to soften and smooth the skin in a less expensive way. The

oily film helps prevent evaporation of moisture from the skin and protects the

skin from irritation. However, " petroleum does cause allergic skin reactions in

the hypersensitive " ! It is generally nontoxic.

Lanolin - " Wool Fat " ! A product of the oil glands of sheep!(well, at least it's

natural)A water-absorbing base material and a natural emulsifier, it absorbs and

holds water to the skin. Chemically a wax instead of a fat. Lanolin has been

found to be " a common skin sensitizer, causing allergic contact skin rashes " !!

Sorbitan Isostearate - Mixture of fatty acids, esters of sorbitol, and sorbitol

with the water removed. Also used to prevent irritation from other cosmetic

ingredients. Sounds like this one is real important!

and yadayadayada...

I guess I've bored you all enough. I'm not sure I want to put this stuff on my

face. I question whether it might work fine initially and then cause other

sensitives over time??? Guess it just depends on how sensitive your skin is.

wendy

wrote:

Original Article: /list/rosacea-support/?start=3166

> Here are the ingredients for the & Diaper Rash Ointment:

> Active Ingredient: Zinc Oxide

> Other Ingredients: Water, mineral oil, dimethicone and dimethiconol,

> glycerine, white petrolatum, lanolin, sorbitan isostearate, panthenol, sodium

> lactate, microcrystalline wax, synthetic beeswax, magnesium sulfate, methyl

> p-hydroxybenzoate, hexamidine disethionate, lactic acid.

>

> It's white -- just looks like the stuff lifeguards wear on their noses.

>

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In a message dated 4/14/99 1:45:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

wendy48@... writes:

<< I question whether it might work fine initially and then cause other

sensitives over time??? Guess it just depends on how sensitive your skin is.

>>

For sure and what your sensitivities are to. I've used zinc oxide and

vaseline for seven years with no problems. Yet, I have a friend who can't

near vaseline - she gets covered in hives. Go figure. I've read enough

responses to mineral oil to know that it is one of those things that some

people are going to react to - no matter how small the amount. I can't say

that about vaseline. Outside of a true allergy, and Dr. Nase's experience, I

know of noone else who has reacted to vaseline. For me, it's always the same

thing. Pay attention and listen to your own body. We are all different

enough that what helps one person can be a trigger for another. Look at the

oils. Enough people have tried them and loved them that I know they can be a

big help with rosacea. But for me, I absolutely can't use them. Not a clue

why, mind you. But I can't. But that's not saying much, I can't even use

any of the topicals on a daily basis either.

Something being natural doesn't mean that it's free of chemicals. Everything

is made up of chemicals. Even natural stuff and it's harder for me to get a

feel of what chemicals are in something if it's natural and the product

labels don't tell what the chemicals are in that natural product. Until I

put it on my face. Then I know.

It's always the same deal. When I read a tip that is working well for

someone - especially if they have triggers close to mine (90% chemical) - I

test it and pay attention. I back right off anything that irritates my face

and keep using anything that doesn't.

Esther

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