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Hi group,

When AHA's were being touted by the beauty media, I tried them--not only

do they turn me purple, they make me ITCH like crazy! I had to get to the

dermatologist and was given desonid lotion (Desowen) because I was being

driven nutso and couldn't even sleep. I did try the ice cube treatment on

the itching until I could get into the dr. but this does not provide

anything in the way of long-term relief....it does provide relief, however

and almost managed to prevent me from tearing my skin up into a mass of

sores (almost) before I got to the doc's! I personally wouldn't recommend

alphahydroxy's for anyone with rosacea, after my experience.

Carol

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In a message dated 12/2/98 4:26:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tfvoigt@... writes:

<< I personally wouldn't recommend

alphahydroxy's for anyone with rosacea, after my experience. >>

Carol,

I'll back on it too. I had terrible luck with them. I do really well though

with salicylic acid, which I believe is a betahydroxy. (, do I have

that right?)

It kills some people, so I wouldn't recommend jumping onto a salicylic acid

product without doing a lot of testing first. But it sure helped me.

Esther

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Esther,

The Beta hydroxy's don't seem to be as irritating to me either. I have to

be VERY careful, however, and use them sparingly and just occasionally.

Carol

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Esther,

> The Beta hydroxy's don't seem to be as irritating to me either. I have to

> be VERY careful, however, and use them sparingly and just occasionally.

> Carol

>

Funny, the beta hydroxy's bother me, but I have found an alpha hydroxy product

that works really well for me. It is made by the Bath and Body Shop.

Marji

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Skylar,

Salicylic acid (SA) is an age old acne topical medication. It is now more popularly known as betahydroxyacid (BHA) as coat-tail to the AHA's. SA is similar to the ingredient found in aspirin. It is also similar to the ingredient found in callus meds or wart meds (ex. Dr Scholl's pads). For these, the % is much higher (up to 40%) than those used in acne (2-4%) SA is an anti-inflammatory & an exfoliant. Unlike AHA's which are mostly water soluble, SA is oil soluble. Therefore, it is more effective for those with oily skin (or sebaceous gland problems) since it dissolves the oily layer and penetrates better.

Active ingredients play a key role in the mechanism of action but just as important are the ingredients in the vehicles. Some people react to AHA's and BHA's because of the vehicle which may be irritating. Unfortunately, the vehicle ingredients are not all revealed sometimes if it is considered a drug products (proprietary trade secrets). Therefore, one will only find out only by trying the products.

Sy M.D.http://www.lindasy.com

Re: aha'sEsther,

What is the salicylic acid doing for you? AHA's were one of the worst

things I was doing for my face before I was diagnosed with rosacea -- I

threw away tons of stuff containing AHA's. Then I started seeing BHA's

in products, & didn't dare try anything. Curious,

Skylar

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I had the same problem with products with AHA's. I don't think it

" caused " my rosacea, but it definitely aggravated it in early days. I

was seeing this bumpy, broken out skin thinking that if I could just

exfoliate it or something, there would be decent looking skin

underneath. I think I really created a huge cycle of aggravating my

skin. One of the first thing I did when I was diagnosed was to throw

out all my skincare products with AHA's.

Now, curiously, Dr. Sy's Acne Oil Control Gel has Salicylic Acid, which

is a BHA & I am having no problem with that -- following is an excerpt

from one of her earlier posts about this subject -- even though I'm

doing well on her products, I certainly wouldn't buy anything similar on

my own:

>

> Salicylic acid (SA) is an age old acne topical medication. It is now more

popularly known as betahydroxyacid (BHA) as

> coat-tail to the AHA's. SA is similar to the ingredient found in aspirin. It

is also similar to the ingredient found in callus

> meds or wart meds (ex. Dr Scholl's pads). For these, the % is much higher (up

to 40%) than those used in acne (2-4%)

> SA is an anti-inflammatory & an exfoliant. Unlike AHA's which are mostly

water soluble, SA is oil soluble. Therefore, it

> is more effective for those with oily skin (or sebaceous gland problems) since

it dissolves the oily layer and penetrates

> better.

> Active ingredients play a key role in the mechanism of action but just as

important are the ingredients in the vehicles. Some

> people react to AHA's and BHA's because of the vehicle which may be

irritating. Unfortunately, the vehicle ingredients

> are not all revealed sometimes if it is considered a drug products

(proprietary trade secrets). Therefore, one will only find

> out only by trying the products.

Enzanni@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 03/10/1999 8:42:25 PM !!!First Boot!!!, oldstuff@...

> writes:

>

> > My only other question is about your comments on Retin-A. It helps my

> bumpies

> > SO MUCH. I've used it off and on for ten years. Do you feel there is enough

> > risk of it causing or worsening the little red vessles in my cheeks that I

> > should give it up?

>

> Wow, I can't believe you can use Retin-A. If I use anything like that or a

> glycolic or fruit acid type treatment, I'm done for. Alpha hydroxy creams

are

> to be avoided like the plague -- in fact, I used to think that's what started

> my rosacea.

>

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