Guest guest Posted June 7, 1997 Report Share Posted June 7, 1997 Klaron is a relatively new prescription drug. It is sodium sulfacetamide lotion. By the way, sodium sulfacetamide and sulfur (brand name Sulfacet R) has been around for a long time and is effective with rosacea. Klaron drops the sulfur, which many of us are allergic to. Klaron is a mild topical. Good luck. ---------- > From: CGallese@... > To: rosacea-supportegroups > Subject: Re: Questions? > Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 3:06 PM > > In a message dated 2/5/99 8:36:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, > sgyesq@... writes: > > << thank goodness for Klaron which I can tolerate 75% of the time. >> > > , > Is Klaron a script med? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . > Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has > arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. > Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 On Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:37:05 -0000 sgyesq@... writes: >How can you tell the difference between seborrhea dermatitis and >rosacea? > >It seems that everything I have tried for my condition - Sulfacet R, >Cleocin T, Metrocream, Noritate, ect. - has made it much worse (I >would have been much better off if I had stayed away from >dermatologists in the first place). boy..do i relate with you.... i go off and on to the derm for my rosacea..and i went again about 3 weeks ago....i had been tetracycline for about 6 months...my face always has the broken caps..and the under-the-skin lumps...but as far as cysts and big pimples..it was fairly clear......she removed a couple lumps and said i should be on a different antibiotic for the redness....well after a week on the wrong stuff..i got the minocycline she had prescribed...and now 2 weeks later...i have never looked any worse.....i have at least 10 large cyst like eruptions on my face....going along my jaw lines mostly.... i don't know if the new meds are bringing these out or what..but GEEESH!!!!! so i am throwing on the cleocin..metrogel..and everything else i have around here....these things don't come to a head or anything..they just look red and awful......and when they go away..i am left with a bright red spot.... but i do think that other people don't notice our complexions..like we think they do....as i mentioned before..when i moan about mine to my husband..he just doesn't see what i see....i'm sure with your profession..everyone is listening to your words..and not even noticing your skin... nicki ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 , I know exactly what youre going through. Ive been told that I have rosacea and seborrhea dermititis. Whether thats the case or not, I dont know.So I have tried all of the cremes that you have and most of them aggravate the situation.Im finding the best thing to use so far is just plain cortisone creme like Cortaid and when the skin is flaking Eucerin creme in the tub shaped container.Each day seems to bring on something else and like you I envy people with normal skin who dont have to go through this emotional trauma.I cut hair for a living ,so I am around people everyday that are dealing with the concept of beauty (plus Im in front of mirrors all of the time!!) Im about to lose it at times so Im on tranquilizers(which help a little). Right now Im on Accutane, so Im hoping I see some improvement soon!! It helps to read about everyone in this e-mail group. You also pick up tips on how to deal with this a bit better,but its still a pain in the ass! Im at the point where I have to put makeup on (which Im sure aggravates this further) and I hate that, but when youre in front of the public everyday what can you do? Im doing alot of research on this and have been to a slew of Drs so if you ever want to e-mail me feel free.I hope you find something that helps.Like you, its hard treating this if its more than rosacea, so I keep hoping that one of these Drs will be able to pinpoint the right diagnosis. They say stress plays a major role in this which Im sure it does, but how do you avoid it when its your appearance thats causing the stress????Hopefully we'll find out the answer to that one.Bill. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 Bill - I am just wondering if your occupation could possibly be the culprit? When I go to get my haircut, I can barely take the odors (hair sprays, etc.) that are in the room and I feel I am redder than red when I leave there. I even tell them just to wet it and cut it because I am afraid I may react to whatever shampoo or conditioner they may be using. I also have seb. derm. and my scalp is a problem. Could they be causing some of the problems for you? P.S. - Let me know if you need a good derm in NY. I love mine. I won't post his name here but you can e-mail me direct if you want to. Margaret ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 In a message dated 2/5/99 10:54:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, Leugene@... writes: << I am wondering if a person can build up a tolerance to it after long term use? (I have used it for 10 years.) >> How long do most of you think we should go before rotating our topicals? weeks? months? years? I think I should rotate..........I have Cleocin T lotion, Cleocin T Solution, Erythromycin gel, Metrogel, cea Ltd, and Calamine lotion that I could rotate........ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 In a message dated 2/5/99 8:36:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, sgyesq@... writes: << thank goodness for Klaron which I can tolerate 75% of the time. >> , Is Klaron a script med? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 , I have had similar results with some of these medications. I found that I am allergic to sulfur (and sulfa). It caused my face to break out so badly that I looked like I had the measles! It itched badly, too. Lately I have not responded to Metrocream either. I am wondering if a person can build up a tolerance to it after long term use? (I have used it for 10 years.) I go to my derm. on 2/18 and am hoping to get answers. I'm sorry you are having so much trouble. Maybe a new dermatologist might give you better results? I switched three times before I found one who seemed to know anything about rosacea. Cyd Questions? >How can you tell the difference between seborrhea dermatitis and rosacea? > >It seems that everything I have tried for my condition - Sulfacet R, Cleocin T, Metrocream, Noritate, ect. - has made it much worse (I would have been much better off if I had stayed away from dermatologists in the first place). I am wondering now whether the treatments I have used for rosacea are aggravating some other underlying condition, such as seborrhea dermatitis. > > It has gotten to the point where I envy, not " normal " people with " average " skin, but people who have rosacea, but, unlike me, who can tolerate topical treatments. Parethetically, thank goodness for Klaron which I can tolerate 75% of the time. > >Has anyone else had metronidazole (metrocream and noritate) actually aggravate their condition. When I use these topicals on inflamed skin the red spots swell, expand and become redder. These topicals, however, do not bother " normal " skin. Does anyone know why this is so? > >Has this condition effected anyone else's career and, if so, what have you done about it? I am a trial lawyer who, because of the nature of the business, can have very stressful periods and this condition has been a disaster both personally and professionally. > >Sorry about all the questions, but this is a very troubling condition and I feel that I am running out of options. Thanks. Regards, . > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . >Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has >arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. >Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 sgyesq@... wrote: How can you tell the difference between seborrhea dermatitis and rosacea? Seborrheic dermatitis is flakey and scaley. Usually in patches - the scales can be scratched off easily. It seems that everything I have tried for my condition - Sulfacet R, CleocinT, Metrocream, Noritate, ect. - has made it much worse (I would have been much better off if I had stayed away from dermatologists in the first place). I am wondering now whether the treatments I have used for rosacea are aggravating some other underlying condition, such as seborrhea dermatitis. Are you using any oral antibiotics? If so, what kind and how much? You may need antibiotics to initially get it under control. Donna G. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 leugene wrote: Lately I have not responded to Metrocream either. I am wondering if a person can build up a tolerance to it after long term use? (I have used it for 10 years.) Cyd- Most definitely. I have found I have to switch topicals occasionally (Noritate, Sulfacet, Retin-A, Calamine Lotion). The effectiveness of one will diminish after using it for a while. Donna G. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 The following site mentions occasionally rotating topical treatments.... http://www.drkoop.com/nancy/dns-rosacea.htm " You and your doctor may need to try several things and even rotate them to control your cea. The most important thing is to be consistent in your treatment. " Donna G. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 katz rule wrote: i go off and on to the derm for my rosacea..and i went again about 3 weeks ago....i had been tetracycline for about 6 months...my face always has the broken caps..and the under-the-skin lumps...but as far as cysts and big pimples..it was fairly clear......she removed a couple lumps and said i should be on a different antibiotic for the redness....well after a week on the wrong stuff..i got the minocycline she had prescribed...and now 2 weeks later...i have never looked any worse.....i have at least 10 large cyst like eruptions on my face....going along my jaw lines mostly.... i don't know if the new meds are bringing these out or what..but GEEESH!!!!! so i am throwing on the cleocin..metrogel..and everything else i have around here....these things don't come to a head or anything..they just look red and awful......and when they go away..i am left with a bright red spot.... Nicki- I had the same problem when I started taking the minocycline - my rosacea got 10 times worse. Come to find out, I was triggered by the yellow coloring in the minocycline capsule. (The minocycline inside the capsule is not colored - it is naturally yellow.) Once I started taking the medication out of the capsule and taking it (very nasty stuff - UGH!) my face got better. I am taking 200 mgs of minocycline a day - if you are taking less, maybe it is not enough to help? Donna G. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 In a message dated 2/5/99 8:36:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, sgyesq@... writes: << How can you tell the difference between seborrhea dermatitis and rosacea? It seems that everything I have tried for my condition - Sulfacet R, Cleocin T, Metrocream, Noritate, ect. - has made it much worse (I would have been much better off if I had stayed away from dermatologists in the first place). I am wondering now whether the treatments I have used for rosacea are aggravating some other underlying condition, such as seborrhea dermatitis. >> Seb/derm is a fungus. A yeast fungus. So, antibiotics creams are definitely going to make it worst. Good news is that it's curable. You need to use a topical antifungal for few weeks to rid of it. Because we have rosacea - and avoid the sun and use topicals - chances are decent we'll get it again and again. The sooner you start with an antifungal when you suspect you have seb/derm, the easier it is to get rid of. Seb/derm is a dead ringer for rosacea. Esther ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 Yes, I seem to become sensitized or basically immune to products I use over any period of time. I have to switch around, because the older med, make-ups, treatment, isn't working any more; sometimes, it's difficult to find something new that is effective. Recently, I got off the cea-ltd discs because I had itchy " snake skin " and returned to the MetroCream/Klaron/RetinA at night regime (I only use RetinA in the pm twice to three times a week but it helps keep the skin clarified and prevents further probs in the big break-out portions) I see a different derm next month--will keep the e-site posted! Carol ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 CGallese@... wrote: How long do most of you think we should go before rotating our topicals? weeks? months? years? I think I should rotate..........I have Cleocin T lotion, Cleocin T Solution, Erythromycin gel, Metrogel, cea Ltd, and Calamine lotion that I could rotate........ - I usually rotate mine about every couple of months. Sometimes even sooner, just depending on whether or not the topical seems to be losing it's effectiveness. Donna ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 Thanks, Donna, for the link. I read it and it's a pretty good description of rosacea. Matija ---Donna Gardner wrote: > > > > The following site mentions occasionally rotating topical treatments.... > > http://www.drkoop.com/nancy/dns-rosacea.htm > > " You and your doctor may need to try several things and even rotate them > to control your cea. The most important thing is to be consistent in > your treatment. " > > Donna G. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Fresh flowers are the perfect way to say " I love you " . > Shipped direct from the grower, Proflowers.com has > arrangements from $29.95 plus S & H. > Click here: http://offers./click/216/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 1999 Report Share Posted February 6, 1999 , Klaron is Rx--prescribed by a doctor and I think, similar to sulfacet. I feel that for me it is pretty effective as a topical med Carol ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 1999 Report Share Posted February 6, 1999 Esther, Thanks for the great information--one more question please? Would the sun make seb-derm BETTER, while make any rosacea problem, worse? Could the sun and its effects be used as a sort of diagnostic aid? Thanks again! Carol > In a message dated 2/5/99 8:36:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, > sgyesq@... writes: > > << How can you tell the difference between seborrhea dermatitis and rosacea? > > It seems that everything I have tried for my condition - Sulfacet R, Cleocin > T, Metrocream, Noritate, ect. - has made it much worse (I would have been > much better off if I had stayed away from dermatologists in the first place). > I am wondering now whether the treatments I have used for rosacea are > aggravating some other underlying condition, such as seborrhea dermatitis. >> > > Seb/derm is a fungus. A yeast fungus. So, antibiotics creams are definitely > going to make it worst. Good news is that it's curable. You need to use a > topical antifungal for few weeks to rid of it. Because we have rosacea - and > avoid the sun and use topicals - chances are decent we'll get it again and > again. The sooner you start with an antifungal when you suspect you have > seb/derm, the easier it is to get rid of. Seb/derm is a dead ringer for > rosacea. > Esther > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > " I can't believe the charges show up 24 hours after I shop on > the Internet with my NEW NextCard Visa " - Reason to Apply #24 > Learn more at: http://offers./click/203/2 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 1999 Report Share Posted February 6, 1999 Esther, Thanks for the great information--one more question please? Would the sun make seb-derm BETTER, while make any rosacea problem, worse? Could the sun and its effects be used as a sort of diagnostic aid? Thanks again! Carol > In a message dated 2/5/99 8:36:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, > sgyesq@... writes: > > << How can you tell the difference between seborrhea dermatitis and rosacea? > > It seems that everything I have tried for my condition - Sulfacet R, Cleocin > T, Metrocream, Noritate, ect. - has made it much worse (I would have been > much better off if I had stayed away from dermatologists in the first place). > I am wondering now whether the treatments I have used for rosacea are > aggravating some other underlying condition, such as seborrhea dermatitis. >> > > Seb/derm is a fungus. A yeast fungus. So, antibiotics creams are definitely > going to make it worst. Good news is that it's curable. You need to use a > topical antifungal for few weeks to rid of it. Because we have rosacea - and > avoid the sun and use topicals - chances are decent we'll get it again and > again. The sooner you start with an antifungal when you suspect you have > seb/derm, the easier it is to get rid of. Seb/derm is a dead ringer for > rosacea. > Esther > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > " I can't believe the charges show up 24 hours after I shop on > the Internet with my NEW NextCard Visa " - Reason to Apply #24 > Learn more at: http://offers./click/203/2 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 1999 Report Share Posted February 6, 1999 Hey Go to it....Go ahead and " sin " a little!!--just don't try and use all the topicals at once in a go-for-all attempt to get the little beasties cleared up Good Luck to you Carol ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 1999 Report Share Posted February 7, 1999 Thanks Esther, Knowing that the sun will help seb-derm, while " irritating " rosacea symptoms helps me a lot. I guess I must have rosacea, then, because while I don't burn easily, I sure do tend to break out a lot when I'm out in the sun, especially if it's a hot day! Its like it becomes a 3rd degree case of acne--UGH! Who needs it! Great info! Carol ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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