Re: Question about triggers

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In a message dated 12/1/98 6:00:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, krys@...

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<< When triggers are related to something you eat or drink,

how soon after ingesting the trigger do you notice the flush?

If I have a flush mid-afternoon, should I even bother to

consider what I had for breakfast? lunch? >>

Krys,

Some are instant. Like vinegar for me. I feel my lips tingle right away and

know I'd better stop eating whatever it is. And some are slow. Like avocados

are for me. I eat one. No big deal. No warning signs. Then the next day, I

eat another. (I'm compulsive when I like something.) I turn alittle pink.

Don't really pay much attention and do it again on the third day. Wham. I'm

red and wondering why. Hot liquids are an instant red. Shoot, hot food for

that matter.

Now, I don't have a lot of food triggers. It's going to interesting to see

how we are all differ in recognizing them.

Esther

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I'm beginning the process of looking for my own triggers.

> When triggers are related to something you eat or drink,

> how soon after ingesting the trigger do you notice the flush?

> If I have a flush mid-afternoon, should I even bother to

> consider what I had for breakfast? lunch?

>

> Thanks for the help. Only since joining this group have I

> figured out why my current Accutane treatment is so hard for

> me to tolerate. My eyes have been so over dry it's almost

> unbearable. Yet, with only a month left of accutane I'm

> trying to tough it out. But now I understand that for someone

> with rosacea the dry eyes are aggravated by ocular rosacea.

>

> Krys

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I have had similar experiences to Esther's. I have so many food triggers that I can't eat a meal without turning pink, and I don't know if this is just increased blood flow associated with digestion or what. Anyway, if I eat something that disagrees with me (onions!) I turn red instantly and my face throbs. With most things though, it is much like Esther said, I can get away with it once, but I'm compulsive and with keep eating it and after a couple of days bring on awful redness. I've also noticed that different foods cause different symptoms or affect different parts of my face. Onions is a bright red face all over, but corn, which is another bad one for me, causes less redness and lots of bumps, pimples, and wrinkles on the bridge of my nose and my upper lip area. I imagine that it's different for everybody just as our triggers and location, type, and severity of symptoms are different. We just have to figure out what bothers us!

Kerry

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Marji,

Could you describe, for us, the punctal occlusion, please?

This was recommended to me, by the opthalmologist, last year and it

sounded so extreme that I just sort of shuddered and went on my merry way.

What has been your experience with this? Is it painful? Did it take

long? Do you feel that the eye dryness has been helped a lot? a little?

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide!

Carol

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Marji Leonard wrote:

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> > Krys,

>

> Are you taking Accutane for ocular rosacea? I am, have been taking it for

almost 3 weeks. I take 20 mg. once a day and my eyes have only gotten

dry occasionally. But I have had punctal occlusion done in both eyes,

so that helps.

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Marji,

No, I take the accutane for acne. I'm taking 60mg/day, so the side

effects

are probably worse than on your dosage. I've never heard of it being

prescribed for ocular rosacea. In fact, I was thinking that I was

probably

making my eyes worse for taking the drug. I honestly don't know if I

have

ocular rosacea. This list is where I'd even first heard of the

condition.

I'm pretty certain I have mild rosacea. I also have moderate acne that

has

proven to be very resistant to other treatments, hence the accutane.

Since hearing about ocular rosacea, I've been regretting my decision to

try accutane. But...if the drug is actually beneficial maybe I don't

need to worry? I've had horribly dry eyes, though. I've had 4-5 bouts

of conjunctivitis, and the eye doctor did suggest punctal occlusion. I

only

have about 4 weeks of accutane left, so I'm hoping to muddle through.

Do you know how accutane is supposed to help ocular rosacea?

Thanks,

Krys

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Marji,

> Could you describe, for us, the punctal occlusion, please?

> This was recommended to me, by the opthalmologist, last year and it

> sounded so extreme that I just sort of shuddered and went on my merry way.

> What has been your experience with this? Is it painful? Did it take

> long? Do you feel that the eye dryness has been helped a lot? a little?

> Thanks in advance for any information you can provide!

> Carol

>

>

>

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Thank you Marji for the punctal occlusion description--if I do try this, I

shall try the " plug " first!

Carol

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Marji Leonard wrote:

>

> > >

> > > Krys,

> >

> > Are you taking Accutane for ocular rosacea? I am, have been taking it for

> almost 3 weeks. I take 20 mg. once a day and my eyes have only gotten

> dry occasionally. But I have had punctal occlusion done in both eyes,

> so that helps.

> >

> > -----

> > See the original message at

/list/rosacea-support/?start=361

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Marji,

>

> No, I take the accutane for acne. I'm taking 60mg/day, so the side

> effects

> are probably worse than on your dosage. I've never heard of it being

> prescribed for ocular rosacea. In fact, I was thinking that I was

> probably

> making my eyes worse for taking the drug. I honestly don't know if I

> have

> ocular rosacea. This list is where I'd even first heard of the

> condition.

> I'm pretty certain I have mild rosacea. I also have moderate acne that

> has

> proven to be very resistant to other treatments, hence the accutane.

> Since hearing about ocular rosacea, I've been regretting my decision to

> try accutane. But...if the drug is actually beneficial maybe I don't

> need to worry? I've had horribly dry eyes, though. I've had 4-5 bouts

> of conjunctivitis, and the eye doctor did suggest punctal occlusion. I

> only

> have about 4 weeks of accutane left, so I'm hoping to muddle through.

>

> Do you know how accutane is supposed to help ocular rosacea?

>

> Thanks,

> Krys

>

My symptoms of ocular rosacea are rather limited at this point. I don't have

any problems with my corneas, mostly lid problems. The meibomian glands in my

lids have become inflamed and are secreting oil into my tear film that causes

burning to my eyes. It is actually a type of blepharitis. My derm recommended

I might give Accutane a try because it is anti-inflammatory and since it

decreases sebum production, my lids aren't secreting as much oils. Now this is

kind of a double edge sword, cause we really need the oily film layer in our

tears to prevent evaporation of the liquid layer and thus help prevent the dry

eye. But with this low of a dose, hopefully I won't have too much problem with

the dry eye.

BTW, have you tried TheraTears? They are the best eye lubricant on the market,

I think. They are promoted to actually help heal a bit by encouraging goblet

cells. Or something. There is alot more info on the net.

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