Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 I may be missing the point but there are some scans - at least here in UK, so I'm sure also in US - to discover MSA. Isn't there a glucose uptake scan that is a fairly reliable PD/MSA differentiator, or indicator at least? And in London I've taken part in experimental scanning using a radioactive tracer that binds to areas of inflammation. The signal received shows different patterns for MSA and PD, and the signal is stronger for PD generally. I don't think they are fully able to interpret and articulate the results yet, as this scan is experimental, but I'm sure they'll get there. (I can post a more complex version of this if there is any interest.) thanks for this >I liked the descriptions of tests in this link. It clearly describes the >tests in words everyone can understand. > > >>It can be a bit confusing because usually the MRI will show if you have >>cerebellar degeneration (MSA-C or OPCA) but it may not show anything if >>you have MSA-A (shydrager) or MSA-P (striatonigral degeneration). There >>are tests that measure autonomic function which may point towards a >>diagnosis of MSA-A. There is no one specific test however and it often >>takes time or a very experienced neurologist to make the diagnosis. >> >>Here is a website that describes the autonomic testing: >>http://mediswww.cwru.edu/dept/neurology/autonomic.html >> >>Regards, >>Pam >> >>NECEDAHRON@... wrote: >>> >>> yes mri show it and you don t have to be sixty to get it . i am 40 >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 xxharles- I am interested in your complex version B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 Hi , I've read some medical abstracts about various scans they've tried(one measures something to do with the heart) but they would not be widely available yet in the US and not likely covered by medical insurance. I'd be interested in more information though about what tests are run in the UK. Regards, Pam thanks for this > > > >I liked the descriptions of tests in this link. It clearly describes the > >tests in words everyone can understand. > > > > > >>It can be a bit confusing because usually the MRI will show if you have > >>cerebellar degeneration (MSA-C or OPCA) but it may not show anything if > >>you have MSA-A (shydrager) or MSA-P (striatonigral degeneration). There > >>are tests that measure autonomic function which may point towards a > >>diagnosis of MSA-A. There is no one specific test however and it often > >>takes time or a very experienced neurologist to make the diagnosis. > >> > >>Here is a website that describes the autonomic testing: > >>http://mediswww.cwru.edu/dept/neurology/autonomic.html > >> > >>Regards, > >>Pam > >> > >>NECEDAHRON@... wrote: > >>> > >>> yes mri show it and you don t have to be sixty to get it . i am 40 > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 I thought PET scans diagnosed MSA and other neuro diseases. Is this incorrect? Debbie Debbie White dwhite@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 I sure would be interested to know more about scans for pd or sds--I have always really never known which my dear husband has--one or both or what--and no neuro here can tell me--that sounds interesting==ch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 Debbie, They help, but there is no one diagnosic tool that is 100% or even 90% accurate for MSA at this time. They have developed some new genetic " tags " from the Parkinson's research and that is helping. But for now with MSA, it is still mostly looking at your set of symptoms and ruling out known disorders. There are some tests that seem to point to a specific problem 60-70% of the time. This includes PET scans with certain markers. Take care, Bill and Charlotte ------------------------------------------------- Debbie White wrote: > I thought PET scans diagnosed MSA and other neuro diseases. Is this > incorrect? Debbie > > Debbie White > > dwhite@... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 wrote: > > I may be missing the point but there are some scans - at least here in UK, > so I'm sure also in US - to discover MSA. Isn't there a glucose uptake scan > that is a fairly reliable PD/MSA differentiator, or indicator at least? And > in London I've taken part in experimental scanning using a radioactive > tracer that binds to areas of inflammation. The signal received shows > different patterns for MSA and PD, and the signal is stronger for PD > generally. I don't think they are fully able to interpret and articulate the > results yet, as this scan is experimental, but I'm sure they'll get there. > (I can post a more complex version of this if there is any interest.) > > > > thanks for this > > >I liked the descriptions of tests in this link. It clearly describes the > >tests in words everyone can understand. > > > > > >>It can be a bit confusing because usually the MRI will show if you have > >>cerebellar degeneration (MSA-C or OPCA) but it may not show anything if > >>you have MSA-A (shydrager) or MSA-P (striatonigral degeneration). There > >>are tests that measure autonomic function which may point towards a > >>diagnosis of MSA-A. There is no one specific test however and it often > >>takes time or a very experienced neurologist to make the diagnosis. > >> > >>Here is a website that describes the autonomic testing: > >>http://mediswww.cwru.edu/dept/neurology/autonomic.html > >> > >>Regards, > >>Pam > >> > >>NECEDAHRON@... wrote: > >>> > >>> yes mri show it and you don t have to be sixty to get it . i am 40 > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 wrote: > > I may be missing the point but there are some scans - at least here in UK, > so I'm sure also in US - to discover MSA. Isn't there a glucose uptake scan > that is a fairly reliable PD/MSA differentiator, or indicator at least? And > in London I've taken part in experimental scanning using a radioactive > tracer that binds to areas of inflammation. The signal received shows > different patterns for MSA and PD, and the signal is stronger for PD > generally. I don't think they are fully able to interpret and articulate the > results yet, as this scan is experimental, but I'm sure they'll get there. > (I can post a more complex version of this if there is any interest.) > > > > thanks for this > > >I liked the descriptions of tests in this link. It clearly describes the > >tests in words everyone can understand. > > > > > >>It can be a bit confusing because usually the MRI will show if you have > >>cerebellar degeneration (MSA-C or OPCA) but it may not show anything if > >>you have MSA-A (shydrager) or MSA-P (striatonigral degeneration). There > >>are tests that measure autonomic function which may point towards a > >>diagnosis of MSA-A. There is no one specific test however and it often > >>takes time or a very experienced neurologist to make the diagnosis. > >> > >>Here is a website that describes the autonomic testing: > >>http://mediswww.cwru.edu/dept/neurology/autonomic.html > >> > >>Regards, > >>Pam > >> > >>NECEDAHRON@... wrote: > >>> > >>> yes mri show it and you don t have to be sixty to get it . i am 40 > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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