Re: Re: >>>> OT<<<<<<< blood donor eligibility guidelines

[Guest guest]

Hi, Clora. I hope your husband and daughter are OK now.

Not an MD

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:58 PM, CLORA <clora4jesus@...> wrote:

> and group;

>

> Hello group some of you know me. I have become a lurker of some

> sorts. I just want to let everyone know I read your post and feel

> for all those that hurt or going through hard times.

>

> Ten years ago my family, myself and husband was working and

> everything was fine. We lost our house when my husband was laid

> off. I couldn't work anymore because my disabilities became to much

> for me. It took about 3 years for me to get SSD. My husband went

> though a dozen jobs. Some closed down or he was just to old to do

> the work.

>

> When I read the post I know where everyone is coming from and their

> pain breaks my heart. I am so happy for all the medicine that has

> come out for RA, Fibro in the last 10 years, and other diseases I

> don't have listed.

>

> My daughter went to the ER last night with severe muscle pain all

> over her body. I knew it must of been lack of electrolites from

> throwing up so much. My daughter is Beanie and she is 37 thats one

> of my kids. My husband took her. My husband had to sign in the

> hospital also cause he has had an ear ache for over a month now.

>

> We can't afford a doctor since my husband is not working. My husband

> has worked for the 30 years of our marriage, so he is not a free

> loader. I know there are a lot of you going through this ordeal

> also. I am really hopeful with a new president we can see some

> changes in the job area.

>

> My daughter had a tummy bug. She was hooked up to an iv and given

> fluid and electrolites. I don't know if she got antibotics but my

> husband did, he also got some ear drop prescription.

>

> I enjoy the laughter that is on here by all of you. You guys have me

> laughing my butt off. And those that are having a hard time I pray

> and ask God to help them and me too. Times are hard like it was in

> the 70s. I know USA will get back on its feet.

>

> Those of the Christian faith don't worry. Your faith will get you

> through. I love you all no matter who you are. I am so glad our

> country is one of the best countries for giving everyone a chance.

> God bless you all and keep the laughter coming and those that need to

> vent couldnt find a better place than here to vent. All said with

> kindness.

>

> gentle hugs

> Clora

[Guest guest]

We really have been on a roll for the last couple of decades in terms of the

economy, not all parts of the country and not all people, but in general there

has been jobs and money available. The kids have gotten use to to a lifestyle

that can provide them pretty much anything they want. Unfortunately I think we

are going to have some rough times now. With whatever Obama can do, and I

believe it is his intention to do the best he can, it certainly isn't going to

happen overnight. I generally avoid politics here because this is not the place

for it or our opinions about it. But I think the fact is that a lot of people

are going to have to do some adjusting. A lot of us here are already used to

living on a fixed income (others might say, this is an income!) and I am

learning right now how to do that. It's will be interesting, that's for sure!

Stan,

Seattle, Cloudy

[Guest guest]

Stan and '

 

We been on a roll in the last few decades.  Forgive me for asking but what

country are you in Stan.   I put your name up there so you know what is

going on.  I don't mean to cause any trouble so forgive me if I am out of line. 

I am upset but I hope I am not speaking out of turn.  My religion allows me to

anger but sin not so I am saying my piece. 

 

 

I am  speaking for the poor or low income.  Those that can't afford medical

help. Some even have a college degree or those who are  unable to get one due to

their mental capacity. 

 

I was not speaking for myself for the USA economy.  Only the rich or people that

are fortunate enough to get medical insurance and or medicine need not worry or

be concerned.  And can afford to lavish their children with anything they want.

 

 

I read about people everyday that can't afford medical assistance.  I was only

hoping on a change for that with our new president  I was  only   hoping , 

thats all.  With a new president I was hoping for  a change.  I wanted Hilliary

but that is beside the point.  Time will tell, whether the medical or lack there

of changes. What is wrong with me hoping.  

 

My husband my daughters can't afford medical insurance.  My oldest daughter has

a college degree in business.  So intelligence is not a real factor.  My

children did not get anything they wanted growing up,  I am sure many has.  I

wasn't discussing politics per say.  I was only hoping for jobs and medical

insurance problems to change.  Saying I love my country is what I meant.  We

have a say in USA, that is what I was so happy about.    What is political about

that Geeze.  You think you know it all Stan. I got news for you, no you

don't   No one knows it all but God. So don't attack me about politics.  I was

stating facts.  I was not campaigning or putting any political party down.  I

could care less about politics.  So let be the boss here not you. 

 

Jobs only jobs in our cities Cleveland Ohio,  Charlotte NC,  Spartanburg SC Is

for experience people with degrees.  It's all over the news.  I am stating

facts.  People are losing their homes all over the USA, including myself. 

Businesses are folding up.  It's headline news.  We just got a new president. 

Whom I didn't vote for,  I am hopeful for him, since he is our new

president   So sir ,  what did I say that pertains to politics? 

 

In the  civilized countries we are the only country that don't have free medical

insurance.  I talk to people all over the world in my international chat room. 

I have made friends in almost all of them.  So don't try to tell me what to do. 

is the moderator and she will tell me what is and is not appropriate    Who

do you think you are?. How dare you.   You're not in charge here.  So if you

can't say anything nice to me leave me alone.

 

Said in facts not anger.  

Clora who loves her country.  

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From: stanpfister@... <stanpfister@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: >>>> OT<<<<<<< blood donor eligibility guidelines

Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 1:08 PM

We really have been on a roll for the last couple of decades in terms of the

economy, not all parts of the country and not all people, but in general there

has been jobs and money available. The kids have gotten use to to a lifestyle

that can provide them pretty much anything they want. Unfortunately I think we

are going to have some rough times now. With whatever Obama can do, and I

believe it is his intention to do the best he can, it certainly isn't going to

happen overnight. I generally avoid politics here because this is not the place

for it or our opinions about it. But I think the fact is that a lot of people

are going to have to do some adjusting. A lot of us here are already used to

living on a fixed income (others might say, this is an income!) and I am

learning right now how to do that. It's will be interesting, that's for sure!

Stan,

Seattle, Cloudy

[Guest guest]

Clora,

 

I have read your posts for over a year. You have a wondrous open heart and soul.

You are a beautiful human being.

 

Stan is a comic writer. He too, is a good, humerous person.

 

I am sure this is a misunderstanding.

 

We all love, care and support each other in peace, no matter who resides in the

White house.

 

Irregardless of health insurance issues (I  have none.) we need each other.

 

Let us live in harmony....

 

Blessings, love and light....

Raniolo

From: stanpfister@ comcast.net <stanpfister@ comcast.net>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: >>>> OT<<<<<<< blood donor eligibility guidelines

@gro ups.com

Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 1:08 PM

We really have been on a roll for the last couple of decades in terms of the

economy, not all parts of the country and not all people, but in general there

has been jobs and money available. The kids have gotten use to to a lifestyle

that can provide them pretty much anything they want. Unfortunately I think we

are going to have some rough times now. With whatever Obama can do, and I

believe it is his intention to do the best he can, it certainly isn't going to

happen overnight. I generally avoid politics here because this is not the place

for it or our opinions about it. But I think the fact is that a lot of people

are going to have to do some adjusting. A lot of us here are already used to

living on a fixed income (others might say, this is an income!) and I am

learning right now how to do that. It's will be interesting, that's for sure!

Stan,

Seattle, Cloudy

[Guest guest]

;

 

Thank you so much.  I want to live in peace and harmony.  You wasn't the one

insulted.  You'r a very kind person.  We have a medical insurance problem in our

country,  I am so glad you don't have that problem.  My family does. I watched

my son n law die of no insurance.  He had a severe heart condition.  Was turned

down disability.  So he died.  He had a quadraple bypass, still turned down. 

Forgive me but we need help thats all I said and I get insulted.

 

please let settle this. 

 

gentle hugs

Clora

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Clora

 

From: stanpfister@ comcast.net <stanpfister@ comcast.net>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: >>>> OT<<<<<<< blood donor eligibility guidelines

@gro ups.com

Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 1:08 PM

We really have been on a roll for the last couple of decades in terms of the

economy, not all parts of the country and not all people, but in general there

has been jobs and money available. The kids have gotten use to to a lifestyle

that can provide them pretty much anything they want. Unfortunately I think we

are going to have some rough times now. With whatever Obama can do, and I

believe it is his intention to do the best he can, it certainly isn't going to

happen overnight. I generally avoid politics here because this is not the place

for it or our opinions about it. But I think the fact is that a lot of people

are going to have to do some adjusting. A lot of us here are already used to

living on a fixed income (others might say, this is an income!) and I am

learning right now how to do that. It's will be interesting, that's for sure!

Stan,

Seattle, Cloudy

[Guest guest]

Clora,

 

I have no insurance.

 

Last month because of celebrex and very low dose prednisone I bled internally.

 

The Dr said I lost more than a quart of blood.

 

I had to refuse hospital and take care of myself at home. I did not want lien on

my home.

 

I miss medicaid by 20 dollars a month. Fat joke when my RX bills are so high.

 

I do not believe any insult was intended. 

 

This disease, the pain, frustration has us all at wits ends.....

 

May your day be better......may we all have pain free moments... 

Raniolo

From: stanpfister@ comcast.net <stanpfister@ comcast.net>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: >>>> OT<<<<<<< blood donor eligibility guidelines

@gro ups.com

Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 1:08 PM

We really have been on a roll for the last couple of decades in terms of the

economy, not all parts of the country and not all people, but in general there

has been jobs and money available. The kids have gotten use to to a lifestyle

that can provide them pretty much anything they want. Unfortunately I think we

are going to have some rough times now. With whatever Obama can do, and I

believe it is his intention to do the best he can, it certainly isn't going to

happen overnight. I generally avoid politics here because this is not the place

for it or our opinions about it. But I think the fact is that a lot of people

are going to have to do some adjusting. A lot of us here are already used to

living on a fixed income (others might say, this is an income!) and I am

learning right now how to do that. It's will be interesting, that's for sure!

Stan,

Seattle, Cloudy

[Guest guest]

Clora,

Please don't worry or be insulted.

I don't believe Stan meant any harm. It seems that he was just

speaking about conditions in the country in general, not directing his

comments in any negative way toward you.

I think this is simply a misunderstanding.

Not an MD

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:18 PM, CLORA <clora4jesus@...> wrote:

> and group;

>

> That is my point. It is so sad in our great country that people

> can't get insurance. I am hoping the new president will work

> diligently for hearlth and jobs. I am hoping for this. and now you

> start on me. How is this political. I cant believe this is

> happening to me.

>

> I am sure Stan is good in many things. I ask him to let decide

> what is appropriate here for me to say. Cause he said to me that is

> not appropiate for me to talk about in his OPPINION. So now you and

> him are dictatating to me what to do. I consider myself a peace

> maker.

>

> My dad faught in 2 wars for our freedom. EXCUSE ME. Please let me

> wait for to clear this up, thank you kindly. I felt insulted

> whether In you're opinion I was or not. I know we can't talk

> politics. Like I said I could care less about politics.

> Said as kindly as possible. So if you can leave me alone in my

> opinion I wish you would. Thank you.

>

> Clora

[Guest guest]

Clora:

I apologize for my comments upsetting or offending you. That was not my

intention. I would have done so earlier but I've had a rough couple of days with

RA related issues. No, I don't think I know everything and I certainly do not

believe I am in charge here.

Stan,

Seattle, cold and cloudy.

--------- Re: [ ] Re: >>>> OT<<<<<<< blood donor eligibility guidelines

Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 1:08 PM

We really have been on a roll for the last couple of decades in terms of the

economy, not all parts of the country and not all people, but in general there

has been jobs and money available. The kids have gotten use to to a lifestyle

that can provide them pretty much anything they want. Unfortunately I think we

are going to have some rough times now. With whatever Obama can do, and I

believe it is his intention to do the best he can, it certainly isn't going to

happen overnight. I generally avoid politics here because this is not the place

for it or our opinions about it. But I think the fact is that a lot of people

are going to have to do some adjusting. A lot of us here are already used to

living on a fixed income (others might say, this is an income!) and I am

learning right now how to do that. It's will be interesting, that's for sure!

Stan,

Seattle, Cloudy