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I found a very useful, non-promotional site on the web that is www.diet-i.com.

It cuts to the chase on virtually all diets. Excellent recommendations.

> Thanks to everyone that responded to my introduction post. I truly

> appreciate all the information.

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Rose,

If you have fibromyalgia and your husband is a diabetic, there's one author

you'll want to check out - Miryam on www.mwilliamson.com. She's

put out a book two years ago on diabetes and prior to that wrote three titles

regarding fibromyalgia. She's the sufferer of fibromyalgia and her daughter is

the diabetic. Ironic, because she began research on the book before the

diagnosis of her daughter. She's open to dialogue with her readers, so you

may find some comfort there.

Good luck, Rose.

- Sheba

> Thanks to everyone that responded to my introduction post. I truly

> appreciate all the information. Colby is in NW Kansas. I live 45

> miles from Nebraska and 53 miles from Colorado. Junction City is

> around 250 miles away. I went to my diabetic education meeting

> Friday and just saw a dietician. She said she had not received the

> orders from the clinic yet but that we would proceed anyway. After

> setting up the amount of carbs, protien and fats for each meal, she

> handed me a couple little booklets explaining food choices and the

> basic information of what diabetes is. That was IT. I asked about

> exercise and testing my sugar levels and she said she only deals with

> food. Then she told me that I would be suprised at how high the bill

> will be for the consultation and it is not covered by me insurance.

> Diabetic education is but diet is not. I was really discusted with

> her. I already knew about how many carbs I could have a day thanks

> to this groop. I have called the clinic and told them and she is

> checking into that happened. I know exercise affects the bg levels.

> I try to do some water aerobics a couple times a week in the

> evenings. I have fibromyalgia also so at times any type of exercise

> hurts. Any ideas of what blood glucose meters are the most accurate

> and also not too expensive for the supplies? I feel like I am eating

> a lot of food now. I never ate this much before but I did snack more

> instead of eating regular meals in the evenings in the summer.

> Rose

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Most of the HMO's want you to go to the education classes first and then

if you are not in some control with your diabetes your doctor unusually

can offer personal visits with a dietitian. My doctor wanted me to

attend classes so I went over his head and called up my HMO Group. Not

the HMO but the group that the doctor belongs to. They were helpful and

sent me a authorization to see a dietitian...You may have to dig around

and make a few calls but you should be able to get someone is charge to

authorize you.

sus

-----Original Message-----

From: Kristy Sokoloski

or to anyone else who knows,

How come an insurance company will cover a Diabetic Education

class series but not dietician consults?

I know that with the insurance we had in the early 90s they

covered a visit for my mom. I don't know about now b/c she

won't go back to a dietician. I'm wondering if it's just b/c of

how we get our insurance: thru the federal government that the

visit she did have in the 90s was covered.

Daughter of Type 2 Insulin Dependent Diabetic,

Kristy :)

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[Also, my insurance does not pay for dieting advice either but when

you

have diabetes and go to a nutritionist that is a whole different

matter.

I would check into that.I bet they may pay for diabetes nutrition

appointments.

sussie ]

The dietician told me that she is not covered by insurance. I have

called my clinic and visited with the nurse informing her of this.

She is checking into this and will visit with the doctor about

further education. I tried to contact my insurance company but they

have not gotten back with me. The problem is that the doctor is only

in the office 1 week a month. We have rotating doctors in the

clinic. I was set at 60 carbs per meal and 30 for snacks. I never

eat that many unless I go out for burger & fries or go on a chip

binge. I do not drink milk, do not eat fruit of vegetables on a

regular basis (do eat salad vegetables, though). So to get that

number of carbs I need to eat a lot more bread, potatoes, rice and

pasta than I am used to. I have been feeling 'foggy' quit a bit. My

eyes are not focusing quit right and I feel a little light-headed

also. --- Rose

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Rose, I don't think that you should be eating burgers and fries and definately

not rice, white potatoes, white bread ands Pasta. Veggies are a must, I know we

don't like certain things but we can learn to eat them if our health depends on

it. Try Oatmeal and whole wheat bread sugar free with jelly on your toast sugar

free. I found a brand called Natures Own. Helen

Re: diabetic education

[Also, my insurance does not pay for dieting advice either but when

you

have diabetes and go to a nutritionist that is a whole different

matter.

I would check into that.I bet they may pay for diabetes nutrition

appointments.

sussie ]

The dietician told me that she is not covered by insurance. I have

called my clinic and visited with the nurse informing her of this.

She is checking into this and will visit with the doctor about

further education. I tried to contact my insurance company but they

have not gotten back with me. The problem is that the doctor is only

in the office 1 week a month. We have rotating doctors in the

clinic. I was set at 60 carbs per meal and 30 for snacks. I never

eat that many unless I go out for burger & fries or go on a chip

binge. I do not drink milk, do not eat fruit of vegetables on a

regular basis (do eat salad vegetables, though). So to get that

number of carbs I need to eat a lot more bread, potatoes, rice and

pasta than I am used to. I have been feeling 'foggy' quit a bit. My

eyes are not focusing quit right and I feel a little light-headed

also. --- Rose

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> You are so right! Today at lunch I had a sandwich and ate the

bread,

> plus another piece of peta bread. BG = 195!!

Hi Wayne,

I would have a high reading if I ate a whole sandwich (2 slices of

bread), then a piece of peta bread. When I have a sandwich, it is

usually one slice of bread, lots of roast beef, turkey, ham, etc,

lettuce, tomato, cheese, mayo. I have one or two cups of hot green

or herbal tea. I then have sugar free jello with cool whip or

something similar. That is all I need for lunch. I do eat more on

the days I meet hubby for lunch, but I also do a lot more walking.

Eunice

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Perhaps you can make small changes a little at a time. Like, I am

trying to add one green veggie to our family meal each night. It

might be broccoli, green beans, peas, or a salad, but my goal is to

have something green. Some nights I don't do it, but I can see that

gradually it's becoming more of a habit. I'm having more green

veggies on hand, thus the chance to make it. I find myself making

sure I have them at the store. And, here's the kicker, last night I

was craving cabbage sauteed in olive oil! Ask my mother, *me eating

cabbage*! I crave it regularly now.

HTH,

Debi

> I got a letter today from my insurance company and it sounds like

> they will cover the dietician depending on how the hospital

submitted

> it. If it is refused I will have a way to appeal. That is a big

> relief for me. Eating the burger & fries is not a normal way of

life

> for me. I usually cook at home but rarely cook the veggies, rice,

> pasta or potatos or have fruit just for me. It is not that I do

not

> like fruits and veggies, just that I have never had them around or

> eatten them much. I am not big on cereals. But I will never

learn

> to drink milk- it makes me sick to my stomache. I love cheese

though

> and that doesn't bother me as bad. When I have company I will

cook

> the veggies and starches. I do eat salad veggies. I guess I

need

> to make me more important. That is really hard for me to do.

> Rose

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> I guess I need

> to make me more important. That is really hard for me to do.

> Rose

Rose: YES YOU DO! You *must* be important to YOU! My mom is the same

way, always caring for/worrying about/doing for others. As her

daughter who loves her very much, I would LOVE to see her walk away

from it all once and awhile and be totally and completely selfish! It

would be soooo good for her, and for the people in her life that she

tends to. I bet the people in your life would love to see you make

you more important to yourself, too.

Jacki :)

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> Perhaps you can make small changes a little at a time.

> HTH,

> Debi

>

Debi-

I am trying just as you suggested - small changes at a time. I went

to the grocery store last night and got some fruit and salad

vegetables. For the moment I am trying to have absolutely no sugar

and adding fruit. Thanks for the suggestion.

Rose

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> I bet the people in your life would love to see you make

> you more important to yourself, too.

>

> Jacki :)

Jacki- Your mother sounds just like me. I imagine you are right. I

know some friends would agree with you - maybe even a family member

or two but my work place does not see it that way at all. I had

pneumonia and was only able to take 2 days off work. Another time I

was in the hospital and had to come back into the office the next

morning. I am taking 7 vacation days off all together next month and

plan to spend part of it doing some major house cleaning and the rest

camping in the mountains. I camp alone and love that time for

personal renewal. Can't Wait!!

Rose

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Rose.. you camp ALONE??? I don't think I could ever go camping (bugs!

no electricity!), yet alone by myself!! That's pretty amazing, I

admire you for it! I do hope you are careful :) and have a wonderful

time.

Peace

Jacki

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