Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Gene- Great points (as usual) regarding the initial assessment and what I like to call the " laying on of hands " approach. Don't discount the emotional value to the patient of having someone who they just called for help holding their hand for a few moments..... But I have to take exception with your view on the value of written tests and skills exams. (Can't agree with you on EVERYTHING can I!?) As an educator I have an absolute need for some method of determining minimum levels of comprehension, and within the current system, that is going to mean some sort of written and skills testing. How I administer these tests, however, is up to me. Being blessed with an exceptionally open minded department chairman, My testing philosophy is specifically designed to reduce this unneeded " Test Anxiety " : a.. Written testing shall only be used to prove how well I have instilled information in the student. Until my student can provide evidence of a minimum level of comprehension I have failed as an instructor to meet that students needs, and it is my responsibility to find an acceptable educational method that will either raise the students performance to the required level or I must pass the student on to higher authorities for additional remediation. The student that meets our programs minimum criteria, have all done well on the state and NREMT exams. Our last pass rate analysis was approaching 80% on the first try and 99% on the second. b.. Skills testing is a continuous process. Although we use the NREMT skills testing forms to verify comprehension for the students files, skills testing is not just performed on one day out of a semester. Time in the skills lab is provided during each class period, and we relate the didactic covered that day with the necessary psycho-motor skills required. I generally have the student who is a " poor test taker " teach ME how to do a particular skill to prove competency, and then have that student drill the others on the " NREMT Method " . I find most students can achieve that " Minimum Level " if given enough time in the lab, and I can reduce test anxiety by total immersion in the testing environment. Slap em with enough quizzes and major exams and it just wears em out, Yes, I admit it. I drill my students on " test taking skills " (how to pass the NREMT). But that occurs AFTER they have proven competency to me. How else are we going to get these guys the red patches? Regardez- T.A. Dinerman EMTP Pulse Timers and Worship of False Prophets... Henry, No, I feel the pulse for 10 seconds and multiply by 6. I have pretty accurate sense of time, so counting 1/1000 and so forth works for me. I wasn't implying that this is the way to pass a skills test. But often the ways we do things to pass a skills test bear little resemblance to what we do in the field. Skills tests are for testing purposes. Upon my initial contact with the patient, I am interested in whether the pulse is within normal limits and regular or irregular. If it's too fast, that tells me one thing, and if it's too slow, that tells me another. I don't, at that time, need to know precisely what the rate is. I do that during the secondary survey. Same thing for BP. If there's a radial pulse, I know the BP is 80 or better systolic. That tells me what I need to know right then. I'll get the true BP later. I suspect you were joking with me a little, but I feel that everybody ought to be able to do PRACTICAL estimates of pulse rate and BP very quickly as a part of the initial assessment. If I obtain a pulse rate of 30 estimated, which would be one beat every two 1/1000 counts, and my patient seems to be nodding off, then I can stop right there for the moment because that triggers a lot of more important things to get started. Or if I feel a pulse that is obviously 4 beats every second, then I don't need to spend 15 seconds counting it out exactly right then. That's all I'm saying. I'll get the absolutely accurate pulse rates and BPs after I get the initial interventions going that I know I'm going to need. If there's no radial pulses and the patient is symptomatic, then I'm not going to spend time searching for pulses until I've got the basic interventions going. That's what I was attempting to say. And one more thing. What good are skills exams anyway? All they prove is that you have memorized a set of directions and can repeat the actions they require in a totally fake setting. They are absolutely worthless for any other purpose. The only way I know that I'm comfortable with a student's ability to take accurate blood pressures is to see that student take them in a variety of situations over time. A good animal trainer can probably teach a chimp to take a BP according to the skill sheets given enough time and bananas. The good medic will be able to get a usable BP under all kinds of adverse circumstances. Try taking vitals in the helicopter. Reliance on written exams and skills tests gives a false sense of security about a student's true abilities. True, we have to have some means of letting people through the gate, but merely passing the NREMT or a state exam means little in terms of ability to perform under stress and in challenging situations. That's where I have fallen out with some of the medical directors who have insisted that we retain a written exam to insure that people are minimally capable. What hogwash. Some people can pass almost any multiple choice exam just because they're good exam takers. Others have difficulty with written exams but give excellent hands-on care. Observation and evaluation of performance in the field is the gold standard. Next is performance in scenario based situations IF THEY ARE DONE CORRECTLY, and that's very, very hard to do. Nobody wants to spend the money to set up systems for true QA. A good QA system must be a part of a larger concept, that of Continuing Performance Improvement systems. Instead, we like to fool ourselves and hope we can fool the public into thinking that holding a certification or license insures good performance. Gene Gandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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