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>>>>>>>>I will be sure to take many many pictures so

that when she's an adult, I can fill her in on her mother's bad behavior.

<<<<<<<<<<<

This realy makes me mad, no one should ever bad mouth a childs parents in

front of them no matter what they did. And besides what you are doing is

not bad behavior.

>>>>>>>>>I will make sure to send a copy of this e-mail to the 17 people

>>>>>>>>>that were

counting on meeting for the first time. <<<<<<<<

And is this suppose to scare you?

>>>>>>>>I know that you took great pains and probably put considerable time

>>>>>>>>into your

e-mail as to not offend me and to try to make me think that you are doing

what's

right for .<<<<<<<<<<

She obviousely didn't do the same thing! She is trying to hurt you.

>>>>>>>>>>It's really too bad that will never have the opportunity

>>>>>>>>>>to look

back on childhood photos of time spent with her grandmother, her great

grandparents and her great aunts.<<<<<<<<<<

Is there anyone stopping any of these people from visiting by you.

Why does need to make the trip? They would probably handle the

trip better anyways.

>>>>>>>made it

known that you do not believe in God and that you think there will be no

consequenses for your actions. <<<<<<<<

This doesn't have anything to do with the situation.

>>>>>>>He wants us to

be the best people that we can be. <<<<<<,

She is right here and doesn't know it. You are the best person you can be.

You do a wonderful job at taking care of your kids.

>>>>>>>>I've never done a thing to hurt you or your

children.<<<<<<<<<<<

Well to me it seems like she is trying to hurt you with this letter.

>>>>>>>>>>>I feel that I need to watch what is going on in Florida much more

>>>>>>>>>>>closely.<<<<<<<<<,

Well if she is planning on moving she will be able to see more

often. ;oP

><>>>>>>>>>>because I don't want to be as hateful as you.<<<<<<<<<

She is being more hateful than you. HELLOOOOO!

Wow What a B_tch!!!!! She reminds me of my ex MIL. How such a short and

sweet letter can be responded to with a nasty hurtful letter. Poeple like

that really make me mad. Sorry you have to deal with this, it's not right.

You are her mother and can decide where she goes and when. And you also

know what is best for her!!!!!

Tina

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I am more angry that she thought she and feet to stand on with her comments

and the fact that it was written in a very threatening tone. She is a very

manipulative woman, and uses that arsenal to make her family bend around her

will. It never worked on me. I guess it just goes to show how sad and

pathetic her life truly is!

" Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you. " -- Maori

proverb

, mom to:

, 4, AS, ADHD

, 2, NT

Re: Fw: Re: August

> >

> >

> > > Dear

> > >

> > > My daughter is almost 3 and I wouldn't even leave her with my

> own mother

> > > overnight. This women obviously doesn't have a clue what she

> would be in

> > > for. They must have really pressured you to make you say yes to

> begin

> > with!

> > >

> > > This would be the only opportunity, in her life time to be with

> this many

> > of

> > > her family members at one time. I will be sure to take many many

> pictures

> > so

> > > that when she's an adult, I can fill her in on her mother's bad

> behavior.

> > >

> > > Not if you never see her again and it's certainly looking that

> way now

> > isn't

> > > it? I really doubt that this would be the best place for your

> son either

> > > .

> > >

> > > If you're going to wait for to be 16 or 18 to travel

> then they

> > will

> > > never see thier great grand daughter again. Isn't that a

> pleasant thought.

> > >

> > > What about 6 or 7... or why don't you come and get her :) If

> you wanted

> > to

> > > see her you could certainly come down here to Floridia and see

> her. Is

> > there

> > > any type of compromise here? Doesn't sound that way. Do they

> know

> > anything

> > > about what's going on with him?

> > >

> > > Hugs to

> > >

> > > G

> > >

> > >

> > >

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To be honest, I laughed thru most of her letter... It did more to dispel my

bad mood than anything else! Thanks for the support Leggs, and all of you.

It really means a lot!

" Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you. " -- Maori

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, 2, NT

Fw: Re: August

> , This woman is a sanctimonius, smartmouth bitch and I wouldn't

> give her the time of day. Sure, you're going to put your baby (she

> is still a baby in my eyes) on a plane to go visit her and her

> relatives-as if! I especially LOVE the way she tries to use

> her " religion " as an excuse to bash you and your " evil " ways.

> There's a real Christian attitude for you, huh? The threats to share

> this information with her 17 friends and relatives probably REALLY

> had you quaking in your boots, huh? And she's going to watch you

> closely now....OOOOH! Aren't we scared? DO NOT...I repeat...DO NOT

> waste even one milliseond worrying over what this woman says or

> thinks. It is NOT worth it. Leggs

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" Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you. " -- Maori

proverb

, mom to:

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> ,

>

> I am so sorry that she is so clueless. I wouldn't send

> my little munchkin anywhere with out me....even with

> my hubby to visit my inlaws for a few days. NO WAY NO

> HOW. ....she is to little and it would scare any 2

> yearold...you have been with since she was born and

> then to be gone for 9 days in a strange place what

> would that do to her? Regardless if she is with family

> they are not safe mommy.

>

> This part I loved......a duh as a non practing RC

> wouldn't god be judging her and her e-mails to?? Hmmmm

> or is it she is to good for punishment. God can't help

> that nut case. Take care and you made the right

> choice.

>

>

>

> >

> > > But we know that these things are not important to

> > you because you've made it known that you do not

> > believe in God and that you think there will be no

> > consequenses for your actions.

> > > I have news for you. There is a God and he is

> > watching. He sees everything your doing. He did not

> > put ANY of us on this eath to play games. He wants

> > us to be the best people that we can be.

> > > I was taught to look the other way and forgive

> > those that trespass against me. God will really have

> > to help me out here.

>

> =====

> TTFN

>

>

> Wife to

> Mom to Ben (aka Gozilla) 5yrs HFA/AS

> On call milk machine to Abby(aka ....stinkerbell) 21MTHS NT

>

> __________________________________________________

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" Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you. " -- Maori

proverb

That's a wonderful attitude, ! I'm going to hang on to that quote. :)

FWIW, I wouldn't send EITHER of the boys to visit our family even with Matt,

who is really a great husband and father. Not even just for overnight.

I'm glad to hear you know she's being nasty and manipulative. You do what

you need to do, hon, and what she thinks is the LAST thing you should be

worrying about.

{{{{{}}}}}

-Sara.

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So glad to hear this ...the woman is obviously an irrational psycho bitch!

(just like my ex mil) You are doing the right thing for and and don't

you forget it!!

(inAus)

To be honest, I laughed thru most of her letter... It did more to dispel my

bad mood than anything else!

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Dear 's sperm donor's mother,

Get over yourself!!! If you cared half as much about as you say you do,

you would be trying to help instead of spewing hate and self-pity.

Sincerely,

Tuna :P

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This was sent to me by 's sperm donor's mother, after I sent her a message

(at the bottom) to let her know the kids were not coming up in august.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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What a piece of work! Any sensible person would not expect a mom to

send her two year old alone to stay with people she doesn't even

know! I'd be afraid to send the kids to her...she'd probably kidnap

them!

And after all the nasty things she says about you..she considers

herself a good Christian..ignore them, , you are better than

these people.

Mimi

> This was sent to me by 's sperm donor's mother, after I sent

her a message (at the bottom) to let her know the kids were not

coming up in august.

>

> " Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you. " --

Maori proverb

>

> , mom to:

> , 4, AS, ADHD

> , 2, NT

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> >From: " suemack "

>

> >To: " "

> >CC: " phipps " , " Phipps' "

> >Subject: Re: August

> >Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 20:29:13 -0400

> >

> >Dear Miss ,

> > I want you to know that a lot of planning and excitement went

into everything for August. I will now have to be forced to think ill

feelings towards you.

> > I know that you are keeping home to spite and for

no other reason. You have truly dissapointed me as a human being.

> > You have shown utter disregard for all of 's relatives

that care about her and love her.

> > This would be the only opportunity, in her life time to be with

this many of her family members at one time. I will be sure to take

many many pictures so that when she's an adult, I can fill her in on

her mother's bad behavior.

> > You have absolutely no idea how much planning went into this

event and what high expectations everyone had.

> > I will make sure to send a copy of this e-mail to the 17 people

that were counting on meeting for the first time.

> > I'm sure that your father would be truly dissapointed, as well as

your grandmother, if you were to keep the children from them.

> > Barbara and Merle will not be on this earth for too many more

years to come. If you're going to wait for to be 16 or 18

to travel then they will never see thier great grand daughter again.

Isn't that a pleasant thought.

> > I know that you took great pains and probably put considerable

time into your e-mail as to not offend me and to try to make me think

that you are doing what's right for . I've been around way

to long, . I know someone who is being vindictive.

> > You trust Jerry and with and without a

second thought so you can go play in the band but not for something

as important as this.

> > It's really too bad that will never have the

opportunity to look back on childhood photos of time spent with her

grandmother, her great grandparents and her great aunts.

> > But we know that these things are not important to you because

you've made it known that you do not believe in God and that you

think there will be no consequenses for your actions.

> > I have news for you. There is a God and he is watching. He sees

everything your doing. He did not put ANY of us on this eath to play

games. He wants us to be the best people that we can be.

> > I was taught to look the other way and forgive those that

trespass against me. God will really have to help me out here. I

don't want to forgive you for depriving me of my granddaughter. I

know that people " use " their children all the time. I NEVER did and

I'm so glad that my ex-husband (rest his soul) NEVER did. I have

never been able to understand people that can be so selfish and have

such little regard for those around them.

> > You have managed to glide along in life to this point, , but

sooner or later, things will catch up to you.

> > You just can't do this to people! I've never done a thing to hurt

you or your children. is not even of my flesh and yet I give him

all of the love that I give . What will you tell these

children about me when they're older? Will you lie to them or will

you tell them the truth? Will you tell them that you chose to keep

them from the people that love them?

> > I was there when that beautiful baby came into this world. I

still cry when I think of the blessing she has been in my life. My

Mom meant so much to me and her birthday was a very special

celebration that was held every year in New York with her twin

brother, my Uncle . This was going to be one last time for me and

my sisters to be together on my Mom's birthday and celebrate

's birthday.

> > This is the only time I have EVER asked anything of you. Until

now, I've stayed out of your life and left you alone.

> > Because, you have chosen to taint what was suppose to be a very

happy time for me, I feel that I need to watch what is going on in

Florida much more closely.

> > You have put me in this position. I am very sorry that you feel

the need to play games with me because I DON'T play!!!

> > The fact that you didn't call and instead chose a cowardly way

out by e-mailing me shows me that you knew what you were doing was

hateful.

> > It's really too bad that you don't believe in God because you

really really need Him!!! I will pray for you, . I will pray for

God to help me through this because I don't want to be as hateful as

you.

> > I am very well aware of the child support situation. So don't

tell me that it's NOT about that. You know, everything doesn't have

to be about money, or how to get more of it without working.

> > Life should be about just doing the right thing. I thought I was

doing the right thing by being there for you when you were going

through labor and holding your hand and telling you that you could do

it.

> > You could do so much more than just give birth. You could let

your child know ALL of her family. You decide in the end what is to

be, because, as you know, you hold ALL of the cards. There is no one

on 's father's side of the family that can do anything to

make you share this beautiful child.

> > I just think you should know that I am so truly dissapointed in

your decision.

> > All of my love to and ,

> > Grandma Sue

> >

> > August

> >

> >

> > Sue,

> >

> > I have decided to keep the kids home in August instead of sending

them up with and Jerry. will miss too much school, and

I am just not comfortable with being that far away for such a

long period at such a young age, and I would like her to be home for

her birthday. We have just moved into our new house as well, and the

kids are still adjusting to new routines ad the new house. I'm sorry

for any problems this may cause.

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