Cindy

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Kids seem to make memories, don't they? LOL After 13 years of daycare, I have

Many.. just wish I had written some of them down.

- How does a child that young get pink eye??? and why was

this fever not noticed and why is a child Bare foot at that age and at this time

of the year..... Not like her feet were all hot and sweaty...... I am anti

daycare but Even still she deserves better care then she got that

day..........Hope she gets better quick........ Take care of you too... And hope

you get some sleep tonight

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Dorene- How is now............ Whats up with this and are they still

pressing charges

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I have been where you are with a child who did not want to live.

was hospitilized for 6 weeks when she was 16. We did not know

if she would be well enough to or want to come home. It is the most

frightening thing I have ever been through. She has had two bouts of

post partum depression/psycosis. Recently when all this happened to

her she sounded like she was suicidal again. That is why I was so

frightened when no one could find her. Now at least I know she has

been seeing her psychiatrist so I can take some comfort in that.

It is good to hear Rissa likes her councelor and is participating

in the self esteem group. I am glad that they are taking a proactive

approach with her.

I do get concerned when I see that you are not posting. Please

checkin even if it is just to say hi. That is what this group is for

to support one another. I know it has helped me get through this

time with .

Hugs,

Dorene

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> OK Here's an Update on us..........Tuesday of last week Clarissa

told her teacher she " wouldn't be coming back after the Christmas

break...... She would be dead " ...... He was shocked. Then the Social

worker asked Clarissa to join a self esteem program, She was

starting ..... She explained it was all about Giving presents to

yourself..... Rissa started to cry and told her " Noone wants me as a

present I am fat and sick " and walked out.... She went to class and

the teacher asked if she was ok... She told him she " Hated people who

asked her that " .......... So I got a call to met with them Weds

AM...Tuesday night Clarissa was crying in Bed.... I went to her and

asked her what she was thinking She replied " I do not want to be

this Rissa anymore " The next Am the 3 of us.......(Teacher, Social

worker and I) Sat down to discuss this....... All I could do was

Cry...... Rissa had said the other day she was gonna ask her

pediatrician to give her a shot to make her sleep forever....... So

when she said that about being dead it was like a

reality..........She was suppose to be at peds office for a check up

at 930 for her ears......... Social worker called and put her on

speaker so we could all discuss what to do..... She suggested ER for

evaluation but Then the social worker pointed out that means triage,

Nurse , Dr and then they would call Phyc.... many more people to make

her feel like something was wrong........ So she called around and

found that the local Mental health hospital would See her

immediately.........So we went straight there....... She was very

nervous in there ...... But it looked like a huge fancy hotel........

It was very nice and the kids were walking to vending machines in

plain clothes and talked to her and she spoke back... One girl asked

if She was gonna spend the night and then Clarissa got

scared......... I told the child we didn't know yet...... Well they

were gonna have her but DH thought it would make her worse to be away

with Strangers on a holiday so We had to rid house of Pill and House

hold poisons since that was ways Rissa brought up......... She was to

not be alone at all...... We were responsible for her every

move...... She is still here...... Becky done stairs still has the

pills etc....... Which is a pain to get meds every am and Pm But its

worth it...... She seems better.... She seen her counselor yesterday

and this woman is great...... Her office is set up like a beauty

parlor....... She does Hair, Make up and Nails for each

appointment.... with our consent of course....... Rissa said " now I

do not have to tell kids I am late because I came here I can say I

went to get my nails done. " ...... She really likes this

woman..............She wishes she went 2 xs a week instead of

one..... She is not playing Vball The counselor thought that should

be her decision but as for the self esteem Group she went to the

first meeting today and liked it ...... I asked if she knew any of

the other 6 girls in the group ( she was worried they'd all be

strangers) and she replied " I cant tell you that's noone else's

business........ We keep everything a secret so noones feelings get

hurt " I knew what she was saying.........Just was nice to hear she

had fun in the group..... She see's the urologist on Monday and the

counselor again Tues. She seems ok Oh the counselor thinks there's no

DP involved She thinks its all anxiety. She thinks Clarissa panics

and gets scared and sees no way out..... She does seem better to me

but I am not letting my guard down yet.... Oh and one last thing she

started Paxil today....... Thanks for all the prayers and all the

Caring you ladies do...... Cards went out yesterday.......Sorry so

late meant to have them out already..... I have avoided the groups a

bit because I had a very neg attitude and didnt want to be

rude ........ And sometimes I just feel like I will be rude and or

bring others down...... Sorry for the book

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My prayers go out to you and your mom.

Take care

Terri(14)

South Africa

Prayers to you and your mom, . Be sure to take care of yourself and please keep us posted. Kath

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Just want you to know I think your company is grossly unfair as many others are. Seems like some of them will do anything to save money. Know that i'm with you in whatever you do. I don't blame you for not making restitution-you earned the money!Keep fighting - we are all behind you in your struggle.

Try to keep well.

Myrtle in Mb, Canada(-29C with a wind chill tonite)

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So they did fire you? You’re going to sue aren’t

you?

Barb in Texas

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Thanks for the words of encouragement! I worry sometimes that with

this disease I will not be able to be the " very best mom " and will

not be able to give Maddie all that she deserves. And if I add

another child to the mix, is that fair to her too? Is that fair to

another child to make them deal with mom's disease and all the

unknowns that come with it? It's more than just " letting it happen, "

we have to go through in-vitro to get pregnant again, so it has to be

a well-thought out plan. So many people tell me that I should just

be happy with the one child I have, and insinuate that it is greedy

and ungrateful to want more. Sorry for going on and on. This weighs

so heavy with me these days. I probably don't even make any sense!

Thanks again for the support- I sure needed to hear it!!! Have a

great day!

Janie

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I say go for it.

However what's with the " very best mom " ? Is there such thing ? Would your

current child not be the best son / daughter if they had PSC ?

As for the people who insinuate that you should be happy with one child,

what they really mean is they would be happy with one child under the

circumstances ! You obviously would not and I defy the reasoning that

suggests otherwise.

Regards

Tony B ( UK )

psc 99 uc 00

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> Thanks for the words of encouragement! I worry sometimes that with

> this disease I will not be able to be the " very best mom " and will

> not be able to give Maddie all that she deserves. And if I add

> another child to the mix, is that fair to her too? Is that fair to

> another child to make them deal with mom's disease and all the

> unknowns that come with it? It's more than just " letting it happen, "

> we have to go through in-vitro to get pregnant again, so it has to be

> a well-thought out plan. So many people tell me that I should just

> be happy with the one child I have, and insinuate that it is greedy

> and ungrateful to want more. Sorry for going on and on. This weighs

> so heavy with me these days. I probably don't even make any sense!

> Thanks again for the support- I sure needed to hear it!!! Have a

> great day!

> Janie

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--- In , " craminvegas " <craminvegas@y...>

> I worry sometimes that with

> this disease I will not be able to be the " very best mom " and will

> not be able to give Maddie all that she deserves.

I'm always comforted by a theory in psychotherapy: the best parent we

can possibly have is the " good-enough mother. " (Of course, I

translate that to " parent. " ) Good enough parenting means that our

children see that we are human and that we struggle and make

mistakes, yet we continue to love them and nurture them. A " perfect "

parent would never have these flaws. Without these flaws, the

children would never learn how to cope with the reality of life. This

leads to later " shattered assumptions " when the perfect parents'

children are confronted with the reality that other people will not

always be there for them and will make mistakes and will struggle.

Thus, being " good enough " ultimately is better for our children than

being perfect. (Besides, who the hell can live up to that

standard????)

Just my 2 cents,

Philip