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In a message dated 9/22/2003 6:39:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

msindy2206@... writes:

> My husband suggest that starting tomorrow I start writing down

> exactly what I eat, the time and when I take my medicine.

Hi Shirley,

Welcome to the group. I do agree with your hubby that you should start

keeping a record of what you eat, readings, etc.

I don't work, so can't answer your question about scheduling meals. Perhaps

some of the members that do work can make suggestions. I'm not on meds, but

I do need to eat something about every 5-6 hours. You may want to keep

Glucose tablets with you. They work quickly to get bg's back to normal.

Eunice

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Hi Shirley - welcome to the group.

Be very very careful about the lows. Anything below 70 can be

dangerous and you are regularly very close to that. If you are

going low on a daily basis then you are on too much

medication/Lantus most likely. Talk to you doctor about it or you

can try to reduce it by a couple of units and see what happens. (If

you do reduce your insulin you need to give it about 3 days to see

the effect.)

When you do have a low, you should be having a fast acting sugar

source. The Glucerna bar won't do it. I find that juice, regular

soda or glucose tablets work the best. You want to have about 15-20

grams (about 1/2 a coke) and wait 15 minutes and test again. Make

sure you are coming up. If you are not, have some more soda, juice

or whatever. A lot of people also recommend that you eat some

protein, like a piece of cheese to help keep it up, otherwise it can

drop back down again.

You will feel really weak and gross when this happens but try to

resist eating a ton of different foods. It didn't happen but you

may end up going too high later in the day.

You'll get this all worked out. Just keep talking to your doctor

about it all.

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Hi Shirley, I believe if I were you I would check with your Dr before making

any changes. I keep some mints made for this purpose in my purse. I also

find that a whole wheat cracker with peanut butter helps and even table

sugar when in a pinch. I would never change anything without at least

talking to the DR. this isn't a very good idea. How many times have you

seen your Dr since you were diagnosed?? Helen

Re: New to group

Hi Shirley - welcome to the group.

Be very very careful about the lows. Anything below 70 can be

dangerous and you are regularly very close to that. If you are

going low on a daily basis then you are on too much

medication/Lantus most likely. Talk to you doctor about it or you

can try to reduce it by a couple of units and see what happens. (If

you do reduce your insulin you need to give it about 3 days to see

the effect.)

When you do have a low, you should be having a fast acting sugar

source. The Glucerna bar won't do it. I find that juice, regular

soda or glucose tablets work the best. You want to have about 15-20

grams (about 1/2 a coke) and wait 15 minutes and test again. Make

sure you are coming up. If you are not, have some more soda, juice

or whatever. A lot of people also recommend that you eat some

protein, like a piece of cheese to help keep it up, otherwise it can

drop back down again.

You will feel really weak and gross when this happens but try to

resist eating a ton of different foods. It didn't happen but you

may end up going too high later in the day.

You'll get this all worked out. Just keep talking to your doctor

about it all.

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Hi Shirley, welcome to the group!

For lows, you may want to keep a tube of Glucose Gel in your purse,

made specifically for low emergencies. You can read about it here:

http://www.ambulancia.com/respuestos/first-aid--glucose-gel.html

(I'm sure there are other brands, as well). The good thing about the

gel is that you can keep it in your purse and always have it with

you. Glucose tabs are good, too. You can get both at a local

pharmacy.

Hope you and your doctor find a way to prevent the lows - it sure is

a scary feeling and once your BG starts dropping, it can drop

rapidly. Be careful!

Peace

Jacki

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hi shirley

what where your numbers when your doctor diagnosed you..the ones you

have now seem very low.

New to group

Hello Everyone,

I just joined the group yesterday. I am so glad that I found a group

that understands diabetes.

Let me introduce myself. My name is Shirley and I live in Southern

Oregon. I have been married to Rich for 30 years last June. I was

diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2 in February of this year. There are

several members of my family that have Diabetes.

My doctor suggested that I go to Diabetes Education classes. I went

and learned a lot about Diabetes and how to take care of myself. I

was scared to death when I was told I had to monitor my glucose level

3 times a day. I had always had my glucose checked every once in a

while, due to family history. I had carpal tunnel syndrome really

bad and my finger would hurt for weeks after the testing. I hadn't

had my glucose tested since I had my CTS surgery. My counselor was

very understanding about my fears and helped me thru the first time.

I just recently have gone back to work. I work different hours and

days off as I work in retail. I am really struggling with my meals

and snacks. I usually only work 5 hours.......so I only get a break -

no lunch break.

My doctor has me on 500 mg. of Glucovance three times a day and 15

units of Lantus at bedtime. I am supposed to keep my carbohydrates

at 100 - 120 grams per day.

Today I was at work and without warning my glucose level dropped very

rapidly. I went and tested.......my level was 41. I immediately

poured 4 sugar packets in my mouth and let them dissolve. Then I ate

my lunch. I had a whole bagel with fat-free cream cheese and a small

bunch of grapes. I still felt very weak and I purchased a 16 oz.

bottle of orange juice and drank it. I didn't take my Glucovance at

lunchtime. I tested my glucose 2 hours later.......and after eating

all of my lunch, sugar and orange juice.........it was only 117 and I

hadn't taken my medicine.

My husband suggest that starting tomorrow I start writing down

exactly what I eat, the time and when I take my medicine. He says

that way we might see a pattern as to why my glucose level drops so

low.

This is the second time my glucose level has dropped without

warning. The first time I was driving on the freeway and I

immediately pulled over. I tested and my level was 43. I

immediately ate a Glucerna Bar and my husband drove the rest of the

way home. When we got home my husband got a Sports Drink (All-Sport)

out of the frig and I drank about a pint of it. Rich made me a

grilled cheese sandwich, 1 cup vegetarian pork and beans, salad, 1

cup of cantaloupe and a small container of tapioca pudding. I tested

after 2 hours and my level was 94. I didn't take any medicine with

the meal.

This has only happened twice but it is very scary. My level has been

running 79 - 96 in the morning before breakfast, 76 - 108 two hours

after lunch and 74 - 97 at bedtime. My doctor says as long as it

doesn't go below 60 that everything is okay.

Sorry that this is so long. If anybody has any suggestions on how I

can manage my meals and medicines working different hours and days

off I would really appreciate it.

Thanks for listening. Shirley

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Dear Deb, Christie, is and Jackie,

Thank you for the warm welcome! I do look forward to being a part of this group. For right now, I spend time each day packing and getting ready for the move which comes in the last part of May. It is really frustrating, because I was so strong and physically capable before all this happened. Now, I have to pack a little and rest. Clean a little and rest. Uggh!!! I try to stay in good shape with light aerobics, but on the days I exercise, I usually don't get much else done. Thank goodness I can pack slowly! Otherwise, I would have to leave alot behind! (ha)

Anyway, the good news is that the place where I am going has a fibro. support group established. I am very into my birds, and they also have a bird club there. I figure its the best way to make like minded friends once I arrive. I guess that makes me a groupie!

Anyway, thanks for the welcome. I will be lurking and putting my two cents worth in here and there.

Kellie

Kellie

If logic tells us that life is a meaningless accident, don't give up on life, give up on logic. If logic tells you that in the long run nothing you do makes a difference, then don't live in the long run. Life is a series of moments--to live each one is to succeed.

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Hello, my name is Shayna and I recently found out about my mom possibility

having borderline through my therapist. I am still in the process of researching

borderline to fully understand my mother's behavior. I believe my mom would be

classified under a high functioning borderline if she does have this personality

disorder. I have never seen any threats of suicide or any types of mutilation,

nor have I seen any evidence of substance abuse. I can think back at times when

she did have her rages, but I still question the fact that she may have

borderline. Does anyone have a family member that has borderline that doesn't do

this?

I no longer live with my mother, not because of her behavior, but because I got

married and moved on with my life. I guess that is why I am having a hard time

believing this. I do know that she does get depressed a lot and constantly

brings up bad things that have happened in the past. She has an estranged sister

whom she has labeled all bad and I never had a relationship with my aunt,

because of my mom's behavior. She does have trouble keeping friends, but she

tells me that it is because they are all weird and she can't find anyone normal.

My dad passed away about 4 years ago, so she is living with my younger brother.

I have been wondering if I should even talk to him about this. My therapist is

100% sure that my mother has borderline, but I can't see it. I guess I might be

in denial? I have read Stop Walking on Eggshells and I have also ordered the

Understanding the Borderline Mother. After reading SWOE I do see a few traits,

but not a 100% in my mom. I guess my question is do BP's get better over time?

Can they get better on their own? Does the raging get better in time where it

dies down? I live on the East coast and my mom lives on the West coast so we

don't get to see each other as much as I would like to. I guess that is one of

the problems in me seeing this, but I am just confused on all of this. She does

throw out a few small crisis' and asks me for help put them out, but I can only

do so much because of where I am located. Some of the crisis has been financial

issues where I felt she was making a big mistake in how she was managing her

money. She will not go to a therapist because she says that she cannot afford

to. If I could help pay for therapy, I would, but I am also hurting financially.

I would be so happy if she went to a therapist to help with the diagnosis. I am

glad to have found this group to help me learn more about this disorder. Any

help or insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Shayna.

[Guest guest]

welcome, Shayna,

maybe your mother isn't BPD, or maybe you are in denial...My very strongly

BPD and NP mother has threatened suicide a few times, but not really...she's

said things like " I should just kill myself and then you'd all be sorry "

but we never believed her, we all think it was just for dramatic effect. My

nada does not have a substance abuse either ( well, food, she's always been

grossly overweight and would eat like no tomorrow) She's never hurt herself

either...but there is no question she's BPD !! There is a book that had

nine common symptoms of BPD, and my mother has 8 of the 9 ( she is not

suicidal) NO, BPD does not get better on their own nor do they get better

with age...in fact, my nada is getting worse with age. Not all BPDs are the

same, though. and we believe there are different " intensities " of it...

Jackie

Hello, my name is Shayna and I recently found out about my mom possibility

having borderline through my therapist. I am still in the process of

researching borderline to fully understand my mother's behavior. I believe

my mom would be classified under a high functioning borderline if she does

have this personality disorder. I have never seen any threats of suicide or

any types of mutilation, nor have I seen any evidence of substance abuse. I

can think back at times when she did have her rages, but I still question

the fact that she may have borderline. Does anyone have a family member that

has borderline that doesn't do this?

I no longer live with my mother, not because of her behavior, but because I

got married and moved on with my life. I guess that is why I am having a

hard time believing this. I do know that she does get depressed a lot and

constantly brings up bad things that have happened in the past. She has an

estranged sister whom she has labeled all bad and I never had a relationship

with my aunt, because of my mom's behavior. She does have trouble keeping

friends, but she tells me that it is because they are all weird and she

can't find anyone normal.

My dad passed away about 4 years ago, so she is living with my younger

brother. I have been wondering if I should even talk to him about this. My

therapist is 100% sure that my mother has borderline, but I can't see it. I

guess I might be in denial? I have read Stop Walking on Eggshells and I have

also ordered the Understanding the Borderline Mother. After reading SWOE I

do see a few traits, but not a 100% in my mom. I guess my question is do

BP's get better over time? Can they get better on their own? Does the raging

get better in time where it dies down? I live on the East coast and my mom

lives on the West coast so we don't get to see each other as much as I would

like to. I guess that is one of the problems in me seeing this, but I am

just confused on all of this. She does throw out a few small crisis' and

asks me for help put them out, but I can only do so much because of where I

am located. Some of the crisis has been financial issues where I felt she

was making a big mistake in how she was managing her money. She will not go

to a therapist because she says that she cannot afford to. If I could help

pay for therapy, I would, but I am also hurting financially. I would be so

happy if she went to a therapist to help with the diagnosis. I am glad to

have found this group to help me learn more about this disorder. Any help or

insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Shayna.

[Guest guest]

Shayna,

My dad was not diagnosed either and he passed away several years ago, but I do

believe he was BPD. He did rage, but it did subside in later years becs we lived

far, far away from each other and had little contact. Also, the people he ended

up around later in life were not those of us he'd raged at in earlier years.

They were the 'painted white' people and he did not rage around them. I think

they'd be shocked and disbelieving even now if I told them the truth. Keep in

mind not all the criteria in the DSM must be met for a diagnosis. I was reading

Stop Walking on Eggshells for info when my teen dtr was dx'd bpd and recognized

my dad in it before the end of the first page. There are some things he never

did and others he did plenty. I only knew I was very uncomfortable and afraid

and knew I could never be good enough or fix him or make his life as smooth as

he wanted me to. Some things are very universal for bpds and for their kids,

others are very individual. All the best to you on this journey of discovery,