Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Hmm, well, hmm....I don't have an terribly wise words to offer. We just do what we have to do. If you were here I'd invite you over for coffee and movie reruns. My cousin has graduated from HS now and is attending a Jr. college part time. When was Jacquie's age, and even Chris's age, things tended to operate around his needs, and his sister's (she's got some 'issues' also). I don't have a life either so I can't tell you you can have it all, but I do have a couple of good friends, and we have this list, and I have my family. Someday's it gets mighty old and I get mighty fed up with parts of it, but it's not forever. This too shall pass. Eventually. Hang in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Thanks - But you know what? I don't even WANT it all....I just want a little something, on MY terms..why is that so terribly hard to do? Penny >>>>> I don't have a life either so I can't tell you you can have it all, <<<<<<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Penny, I know that feeling too well. Greggory has sent me there too many times to count. Some days are great and I forget for awhile that my life is not normal and then we go somehwre and I am stuck in the middle of a place I never wanted to be. I dont know what to say except I am sure you didnt look like an idiot. We just feel like we do. Jacquie H > Jacqui's last day of school was today. oh fun. This is the 3rd day in a row > that she has been overly frustrated after school about everything (that's > right, she saves it for me). > > Last week we were invited to an " end of school " swim party. No biggy, just > a few girls from school, and some little ones. I said OK, and Jacqui seemed > fairly anxious to go. Now in the back of my mind, I'm pretty sure that > Jacqui was invited for the sake of one of the little girls. Long story > short, Mom has child jacqui's age PLUS a foster child Jacqui's age, and bio > daughter needs her own friends, so Jacqui would be the " fill in " friend for > the foster child. Of course, this is all done in a very nice, suburban > yuppie sort of way. (Ok, I'm pissed.....) > > Anyhow, at this very moment I am MAD, ANGRY, FRUSTRATED, SAD, GUILTY, and > throw in any other emotion you want. I am SO mad at Jacqui!!! For what? For > being Autistic. For making ME live this autistic life. > > We go to the party. Of course, I immediately feel out of place, but I > handle it ok. Jacqui gets in the pool, but PLAYS WITH NO ONE. She didn't > play with ANYONE the ENTIRE time we were there!!! All of the other kids > were playing, and within 15 minutes she was " I want to go!! " " When can we > go " on and on. The other 4 woman were happily carrying on conversations and > I had to deal with Jacqui. Then, when I showed no signs of leaving, she > hangs on my leg (I was sitting on the edge of the pool)...She literally > HANGS there. I try to ignore her, but finally I say " We have to go. > Jacqui's done " . So my friend trys to save the moment by saying it was time > to eat. Jacqui goes for this, but I STILL have to be on her. I can't > mingle, I can't talk. I have to provide the food, make sure Jacqui doesn't > handle it all, make sure she doesn't eat 10 brownies...etc.etc. - When she > was done eating, guess what.. she wanted to go. Does she say goodbye to > anyone? No. And of course, I just feel and probably look like a complete > idiot. > > You all know what I mean....and I'm so completely tired of it. COMPLETELY. > One woman at school this morning commented to me that Jacqui didn't seem > autistic. Yeah, I know. You can't SEE it, until it slaps you upside the > head. > > What was I thinking? I can't go anywhere in public, with strangers. My > child is NEVER going to play with more than one child at a time...I'm never > going to have a social existence. > > Why does my life usually seem like it's rolling along well and that Jacqui > is doing well? BECAUSE WE LIVE AN AUTISTIC'S LIFE!! Our lives revolve > around HER. Period. > > I'm pissed. I should not be angry at her, but I am. I'm one step short of > " Why can't you just go play with your friends " . > > I know why. and I can't change it. ever. > > Oh, BTW...Jacqui's perfectly happy now that we're home. > > Stuck in Autism Hell, > > Penny > " Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane " Dogbert - > 6/14/98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Penny, You need to get something that is just yours. You need to tell your dh that you have to have at least ONE thing in your life that is just yours and is not touched by autism. You decide what that is, preferably something that gets you out of the house and around other people with similar interests. How about you take a class at a local college, or a class to teach you a new craft you've always wanted to try? Honestly Penny, I know what it is like to have your life ruled by autism, and you really, really need to get away from it sometimes. Join the gym, or go to church by yourself. If you have trouble socially, like me , than join some really small group at first, like a couple of ladies walking around the park or something. I'm just throwing out ideas. You NEED to have contact with other adults without Jacqui around. You NEED to make time for this. It has to be a priority or you will continue to feel angry at Jacqui(which I know you don't want). So, there's my 2 cents. Amy H--in Michigan Kepler 5 ASD and Bethany 6 1/2 NT _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 >>You need to get something that is just yours. You need to tell your dh that you have to have at least ONE thing in your life that is just yours and is not touched by autism. Now THAT is good advice. For all of us. -Sara. who hasn't any idea what her one thing might be, but knows she needs one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 >> Anyhow, at this very moment I am MAD, ANGRY, FRUSTRATED, SAD, GUILTY, and throw in any other emotion you want. I am SO mad at Jacqui!!! For what? For being Autistic. For making ME live this autistic life. >> Yeah...I get this feeling sometimes, too. Autism throws everyone around it into this Netherworld...how can anything make sense when you are constantly dealing with behaviors that DON'T make sense...always saying/thinking " Why did you do that? " ...for me, what helps is working on understanding how it works...there ARE whys, and if I know the reason (or can make one up), I feel less like life is out of control. It's why I'm such an info junkie---I need to know so I can survive. It's that constant craziness...I have to make it make sense. I've thought for a long time that what professionals need to do is not to teach us how to deal with autism (well...that, too...but not JUST that)...someone should to be teaching parents how to deal with the stress of living with a person with autism. How to do this and maintain some level of sanity...sympathetic overload is contagious, and when you are around it all the time, you live it just as much as they do. It's like living in a war zone; you can never relax because you don't know what will happen next. > The other 4 woman were happily carrying on conversations and > I had to deal with Jacqui. > This is one of the toughest things for me...seeing other moms go about the business of " watching " their NT kids while I *chase* . I remember in our old neighborhood some of the mothers were sitting in chairs out on the front lawn on night and invited me to sit and talk with them... " Can't you just watch him from here? " ...they honestly couldn't see how a five year old could need that much supervision. > You all know what I mean....and I'm so completely tired of it. COMPLETELY.> Yeah. I get that way, too. It just comes and goes...don't have an answer for that one. I just try to distract myself and ride it out. >> I know why. and I can't change it. ever. >> I think though, that it will get better for you and Jacqui, Penny. Have you ever read " Exiting Nirvana " ? It is about a woman with autism---a lot more severe than Jacqui, from what I can tell, but still doing well---she works outside the home, helps with meals, and sells her artwork...it is a very good picture of life with an older autistic child, I think. Gave me hope...even though it is quite frank about the challenges. > Oh, BTW...Jacqui's perfectly happy now that we're home. > Well...yeah. > Stuck in Autism Hell,> Hmmmm...sorry. Not much help, huh? Raena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Ah, Penny. been there, done that. Your telling of the birthday party could've been mine. <sigh> I've felt that anger and resentment and rage and the desire to shake the autism out of my kid, too. You asked for a 'solution'. Don't have one; all the alternatives to continuing to try all seem to involve never leaving the house again. I'm going to see Tony Attwood and Carol Gray in October, assuming all goes smoothly...hopefully I will have some pointers that I can share with you then. As much as we love our kids, treasure them as they are, and wouldn't dream of changing them...sometimes this autism life JUST SUCKS. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Thanks for all of your replies so far. and yes, they all helped. If I DIDN'T know what the issues were, then I think it would make sense for me to be trying to figure them out. But KNOWING what's happening and KNOWING that I can't change it is SOOOOOOOO frustrating... is right...this too shall pass. *sigh* BTW, I have started exercising again..and I've made it pretty clear that it IS my time. I WILL get up and go for a walk whenever. Period. I WILL swim and NOT worry about what Jacqui is doing. I WILL go for a bike ride. I will go upstairs EARLY and workout if I feel like it. I WILL NOT plan ahead for these things. Of course, that said...my dh won't be home until 6:30 tonite..... *sigh* again. Penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 ((((((((((((((PENNY))))))))))))) This is another one of those cases where I think it must be harder having a high functioning child. Although I can definetely relate with what happened at this party. That is how it is for me, too. But your expectations are different for Jacqui and so are her peers' and their parents'. It has got to be very frustrating to have a child be so high functioning yet so autistic. I'm sorry! Tamara --- Penny wrote: > Jacqui's last day of school was today. oh fun. This > is the 3rd day in a row > that she has been overly frustrated after school > about everything (that's > right, she saves it for me). > > Last week we were invited to an " end of school " swim > party. No biggy, just > a few girls from school, and some little ones. I > said OK, and Jacqui seemed > fairly anxious to go. Now in the back of my mind, > I'm pretty sure that > Jacqui was invited for the sake of one of the little > girls. Long story > short, Mom has child jacqui's age PLUS a foster > child Jacqui's age, and bio > daughter needs her own friends, so Jacqui would be > the " fill in " friend for > the foster child. Of course, this is all done in a > very nice, suburban > yuppie sort of way. (Ok, I'm pissed.....) > > Anyhow, at this very moment I am MAD, ANGRY, > FRUSTRATED, SAD, GUILTY, and > throw in any other emotion you want. I am SO mad at > Jacqui!!! For what? For > being Autistic. For making ME live this autistic > life. > > We go to the party. Of course, I immediately feel > out of place, but I > handle it ok. Jacqui gets in the pool, but PLAYS > WITH NO ONE. She didn't > play with ANYONE the ENTIRE time we were there!!! > All of the other kids > were playing, and within 15 minutes she was " I want > to go!! " " When can we > go " on and on. The other 4 woman were happily > carrying on conversations and > I had to deal with Jacqui. Then, when I showed no > signs of leaving, she > hangs on my leg (I was sitting on the edge of the > pool)...She literally > HANGS there. I try to ignore her, but finally I say > " We have to go. > Jacqui's done " . So my friend trys to save the > moment by saying it was time > to eat. Jacqui goes for this, but I STILL have to > be on her. I can't > mingle, I can't talk. I have to provide the food, > make sure Jacqui doesn't > handle it all, make sure she doesn't eat 10 > brownies...etc.etc. - When she > was done eating, guess what.. she wanted to go. > Does she say goodbye to > anyone? No. And of course, I just feel and probably > look like a complete > idiot. > > You all know what I mean....and I'm so completely > tired of it. COMPLETELY. > One woman at school this morning commented to me > that Jacqui didn't seem > autistic. Yeah, I know. You can't SEE it, until it > slaps you upside the > head. > > What was I thinking? I can't go anywhere in public, > with strangers. My > child is NEVER going to play with more than one > child at a time...I'm never > going to have a social existence. > > Why does my life usually seem like it's rolling > along well and that Jacqui > is doing well? BECAUSE WE LIVE AN AUTISTIC'S LIFE!! > Our lives revolve > around HER. Period. > > I'm pissed. I should not be angry at her, but I am. > I'm one step short of > " Why can't you just go play with your friends " . > > I know why. and I can't change it. ever. > > Oh, BTW...Jacqui's perfectly happy now that we're > home. > > Stuck in Autism Hell, > > Penny > " Reality is always controlled by the people who are > most insane " Dogbert - > 6/14/98 > > ===== Tamara mom to : Ebony, 4 yrs -- asd, ADHD, bi-polar , 1 year wife to: Terry, love of my life __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 ahhh Penny. Sorry you are so down. But I can see what your saying. Mark doesn't have an offical dx but I am almost sure he has autism. But at times I wonder because he is doing so good. Then I go in public with him or a new situation, or a family get together and then I know. I hate big gatherings now because I'm never a part of them anymore. They suck and I can walk around just me and Mark anytime, why should I go to a gathering like that to do the same thing. And at the same time what so much to mingle. I understand Penny, it's no fun! ((((((Penny))))))) Tina W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 (((Penny))) I wish I could say something uplifting but I'm feeling pretty crappy myself. Sissi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 family gatherings..... hmmmmm.... I HATE them! Everyone sits around having a great time, while Tim and I spend the WHOLE time chasing, calming, feeding, etc while no one lifts one finger to say hey, why don't you eat while I do that. Do you know last weekend everyone ate without me (we were out of town without Tim) and when they were all done and I was STILL trying to get him settled I ended up eating at the dinner table by myself? I thought how selfish is everyone. I'm so tired of the " I just don't think he's autistic " , " maybe they mis diagnosed him " , " it's just a phase " . This week he has been super, super good and it's times like that that I think gosh is there really anything wrong with him, but I should just hit myself in the head, because 1 good week means 4 bad, bad weeks. We finally told the family, if you can't come here then don't be upset if we decline the invitation. Is it denial? Merritt 2-Star Consultant Southern Living At HOME www.southernlivingathome.com/heathermerritt Re: Sick and tired of this miserable existence - might be long... ahhh Penny. Sorry you are so down. But I can see what your saying. Mark doesn't have an offical dx but I am almost sure he has autism. But at times I wonder because he is doing so good. Then I go in public with him or a new situation, or a family get together and then I know. I hate big gatherings now because I'm never a part of them anymore. They suck and I can walk around just me and Mark anytime, why should I go to a gathering like that to do the same thing. And at the same time what so much to mingle. I understand Penny, it's no fun! ((((((Penny))))))) Tina W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 >> If I DIDN'T know what the issues were, then I think it would make > sense for me to be trying to figure them out. But KNOWING what's > happening and KNOWING that I can't change it is SOOOOOOOO > frustrating... >> Penny, I don't know if this is directed at my comments or not, but I just wanted to respectfully state that I do not for one single minute believe that it can't change...it can. It doesn't go away, but it can be so much better...knowledge about what is going on in the nervous systems of these kids is exploding right now. I just read this morning on one of the therapy lists the newest research into how one particular therapy regimen works to change brain chemistry for defensive kids...the point being that if we can truly influence brain chemistry through therapy instead of medication, and can provide carefully selected information to give the child positive experiences- -so that they can LEARN through said experience that the world isn't so frightening and overwhelming, we can decrease the defensive reactions these children live in every day. We can change the way they perceive the world. That is what Hanschu's Ready Approach is about; it is what the Wilbarger Protocol is about; it is the basis of Henry's work, Sheila Frick's listening programs, and so many others. Making permanent change in the manner in which the CNS reacts to information it receives. I am not trying to offend you...I really like you and I do understand how hopeless it all seems sometimes. Heck, I spend a *lot* of nights worrying about what ' future will be like. But I have spent the past 20+ yrs working to help children...and if I didn't think things could change for them, and change significantly, I would be simply wasting my time. I don't think I could survive if I believed that there was no answer to this. I really hope this post isn't out of line...this just hit me in the face when I read it. I am not angry, and I am not trying to anger anyone else...and I am not trying to turn this into a discussion of therapy. It's just that this is how I make it through the day...because I am a " fixer " by nature, I suppose (all therapists are...), I need to find answers to the " whys " , because those answers lead to the " how tos " ...which give me tools for making things different. Maybe I should shut up and go back to bed... Raena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 >I'm so tired of the " I just don't think he's autistic " , " maybe they mis diagnosed him " , " it's just a phase " . , I finally screamed at a family gathering, " Do you think I WANT him to be autistic??? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I LIVE WITH EVERY DAY! " and then locked myself in the bathroom for an hour and cried my eyes out. Everybody shut up after that. :-) Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 Penny , ((((hugs)))) .Can I join you in autism hell ? Oops ,sorry ,I forgot ,I'm already there <sigh> Today ,I went to a local shopping mall with Lyndsey ,Andy and my Gran . Andy started fussing as soon as we got there .I normally put him in a shopping cart but today I hired a liitle car that you can push the kid around in. Andy hated it ! Screamed ,shouted help ,head banged . So my Gran takes the kids and goes for a coffee and lets me do some shopping. I hear Andy screaming from the other end of the mall cause he's with my Gran and not me. So we are leaving the mall ,and Lyndsey asks , " can we go to Warner Brothers? " . Sure why not .Andy is happy now he is not in the car thingy . Oh another thing , Why do they put shops like Warner Brothers at the entrance/exit?? It's like placing candies at the checkout ! So any ways , I 'm waiting to pay for my stuff ,when Andy starts screaming . I turn round and he is sprawled on the floor .This woman says " I DID SAY EXCUSE ME ,BUT HE WOULDN'T MOVE . " I tell her that he's disabled and he only has a mental age of 2 and he wouldn't understand her. " He doesn't LOOK disabled " she tells me. I reply that he has autism. Again ,she says " He doesn't LOOK autistic " . This just made my blood boil. I am not going to apologise to ANY ONE for my son. I asked her if she would like me to tattoo his forehead or would she just like to live my life??? She just gave me a look of disgust , but I couldn't care less . I am so past caring about how other people react to Andy. It's their problem .just leave us the hell alone and let us get on with our lives . Why in this so called modern society do even the disabled have to *look disabled* to appease everone else. Why can't others just accept that no-one is the same ,we all have our differences .Why can't people be tolerant. Why , why ,why ?? Ok ,vent over , away for a ciggie and a good cry Ali Penny wrote:Jacqui's last day of school was today. oh fun. This is the 3rd day in a row that she has been overly frustrated after school about everything (that's right, she saves it for me). Last week we were invited to an " end of school " swim party. No biggy, just a few girls from school, and some little ones. I said OK, and Jacqui seemed fairly anxious to go. Now in the back of my mind, I'm pretty sure that Jacqui was invited for the sake of one of the little girls. Long story short, Mom has child jacqui's age PLUS a foster child Jacqui's age, and bio daughter needs her own friends, so Jacqui would be the " fill in " friend for the foster child. Of course, this is all done in a very nice, suburban yuppie sort of way. (Ok, I'm pissed.....) Anyhow, at this very moment I am MAD, ANGRY, FRUSTRATED, SAD, GUILTY, and throw in any other emotion you want. I am SO mad at Jacqui!!! For what? For being Autistic. For making ME live this autistic life. We go to the party. Of course, I immediately feel out of place, but I handle it ok. Jacqui gets in the pool, but PLAYS WITH NO ONE. She didn't play with ANYONE the ENTIRE time we were there!!! All of the other kids were playing, and within 15 minutes she was " I want to go!! " " When can we go " on and on. The other 4 woman were happily carrying on conversations and I had to deal with Jacqui. Then, when I showed no signs of leaving, she hangs on my leg (I was sitting on the edge of the pool)...She literally HANGS there. I try to ignore her, but finally I say " We have to go. Jacqui's done " . So my friend trys to save the moment by saying it was time to eat. Jacqui goes for this, but I STILL have to be on her. I can't mingle, I can't talk. I have to provide the food, make sure Jacqui doesn't handle it all, make sure she doesn't eat 10 brownies...etc.etc. - When she was done eating, guess what.. she wanted to go. Does she say goodbye to anyone? No. And of course, I just feel and probably look like a complete idiot. You all know what I mean....and I'm so completely tired of it. COMPLETELY. One woman at school this morning commented to me that Jacqui didn't seem autistic. Yeah, I know. You can't SEE it, until it slaps you upside the head. What was I thinking? I can't go anywhere in public, with strangers. My child is NEVER going to play with more than one child at a time...I'm never going to have a social existence. Why does my life usually seem like it's rolling along well and that Jacqui is doing well? BECAUSE WE LIVE AN AUTISTIC'S LIFE!! Our lives revolve around HER. Period. I'm pissed. I should not be angry at her, but I am. I'm one step short of " Why can't you just go play with your friends " . I know why. and I can't change it. ever. Oh, BTW...Jacqui's perfectly happy now that we're home. Stuck in Autism Hell, Penny " Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane " Dogbert - 6/14/98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 " I tell her that he's disabled and he only has a mental age of 2 and he wouldn't understand her. " He doesn't LOOK disabled " she tells me. I reply that he has autism. Again ,she says " He doesn't LOOK autistic " . " I hate this! I hear this too often! I really hate this!!!!!!!!!!!! Jacquie H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 " I tell her that he's disabled and he only has a mental age of 2 and he wouldn't understand her. " He doesn't LOOK disabled " she tells me. I reply that he has autism. Again ,she says " He doesn't LOOK autistic " . " I hate this! I hear this too often! I really hate this!!!!!!!!!!!! Jacquie H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 .. Again ,she says " He doesn't LOOK > autistic " . " > Tell her, " Of course he does. Autistic children are very beautiful. " Sissi Kids' Page http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/dillon.htm Boone's Art http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/bart.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 Raena - Yes, this was directed at your comments, but NOT in a bad way at all!!! I'm short on time right now, but I will reply later..... I hope I didn't offend you! You certainly didn't offend me!!! Quite the opposite!! Penny Re: Sick and tired of this miserable existence - might be long... >> If I DIDN'T know what the issues were, then I think it would make > sense for me to be trying to figure them out. But KNOWING what's > happening and KNOWING that I can't change it is SOOOOOOOO > frustrating... >> Penny, I don't know if this is directed at my comments or not, but I just wanted to respectfully state that I do not for one single minute believe that it can't change...it can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- > " I tell her that he's disabled and he only has a mental age of 2 and > he wouldn't understand her. " He doesn't LOOK disabled " she tells me. > I reply that he has autism. Again ,she says " He doesn't LOOK > autistic " . " You should start following up this type of conversation with " since autism is a neurological dysfunction, you'd have to be superman to actually 'see' his disability! " sheesh! Sue > ------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 Ali, Ok, I don't even care if Andy is disabled or not. I'm flipping mad that any stranger would have the GALL to do anything to your son that would cause him to be sprawled out on the floor. How DARE she touch him or in any way cause him to be in that position! And how DARE she be disgusted with you after SHE caused this. If she had a problem with Andy, she should have talked to you and NOT taken matters into her own hands. It makes it even worse that Andy does have autism, but still ... I'm just pissed that any stranger would do such a thing, regardless. Ok, I'm done being angry on your behalf now. Good for you, telling her what's what. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Thanks Debbie ! I forgot to say as well ,my Grandma was ssssssooooooo mad ,I had to hold her back ,(she's 77 and not in good health). Ali weya wrote:Ali, Ok, I don't even care if Andy is disabled or not. I'm flipping mad that any stranger would have the GALL to do anything to your son that would cause him to be sprawled out on the floor. How DARE she touch him or in any way cause him to be in that position! And how DARE she be disgusted with you after SHE caused this. If she had a problem with Andy, she should have talked to you and NOT taken matters into her own hands. It makes it even worse that Andy does have autism, but still ... I'm just pissed that any stranger would do such a thing, regardless. Ok, I'm done being angry on your behalf now. Good for you, telling her what's what. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 > Raena - > Yes, this was directed at your comments, but NOT in a bad way at all!!! > > I'm short on time right now, but I will reply later..... > > I hope I didn't offend you! You certainly didn't offend me!!! Quite the > opposite!! >> Penny...I am fine. I was worried that what I had said offended you, and that you were mad at me. Just write when you feel like it...I am worried about you, esp. after reading your note yesterday. Write to me privately if you like: Lightspeed1@... Raena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Penny, I don't know what to say, other than I am right there with you. acts almost perfectly normal in school , and really, anywhere that isn't home. The only solution I have found thus far is to just tell people, " Well, you don;t live with him " Not very effective or satisfying, but it's all I got. I finally managed to catch some of his worse behavior on camera, and sent it to all my skeptical family, and his teacher, labeled 's Home Movies. Everyone watched it, of course expecting to see my " perfectly normal, oh he's just 4 " son. They all got a shock. I hope things get better fro You and Jacquie. Just remember, it'll pass....sorry this is so late!!!! " It is a curious thought, but it is only when you see people looking ridiculous that you realize just how much you love them. " - Agatha Christie , frazzled mom to: , PDD-NOS, ADHD, Mixed Expressive/Receptive Language Disorder, 4 , NT, Terrible Twos, but adorable none-the-less, 2 Sick and tired of this miserable existence - might be long... Jacqui's last day of school was today. oh fun. This is the 3rd day in a row that she has been overly frustrated after school about everything (that's right, she saves it for me). Last week we were invited to an " end of school " swim party. No biggy, just a few girls from school, and some little ones. I said OK, and Jacqui seemed fairly anxious to go. Now in the back of my mind, I'm pretty sure that Jacqui was invited for the sake of one of the little girls. Long story short, Mom has child jacqui's age PLUS a foster child Jacqui's age, and bio daughter needs her own friends, so Jacqui would be the " fill in " friend for the foster child. Of course, this is all done in a very nice, suburban yuppie sort of way. (Ok, I'm pissed.....) Anyhow, at this very moment I am MAD, ANGRY, FRUSTRATED, SAD, GUILTY, and throw in any other emotion you want. I am SO mad at Jacqui!!! For what? For being Autistic. For making ME live this autistic life. We go to the party. Of course, I immediately feel out of place, but I handle it ok. Jacqui gets in the pool, but PLAYS WITH NO ONE. She didn't play with ANYONE the ENTIRE time we were there!!! All of the other kids were playing, and within 15 minutes she was " I want to go!! " " When can we go " on and on. The other 4 woman were happily carrying on conversations and I had to deal with Jacqui. Then, when I showed no signs of leaving, she hangs on my leg (I was sitting on the edge of the pool)...She literally HANGS there. I try to ignore her, but finally I say " We have to go. Jacqui's done " . So my friend trys to save the moment by saying it was time to eat. Jacqui goes for this, but I STILL have to be on her. I can't mingle, I can't talk. I have to provide the food, make sure Jacqui doesn't handle it all, make sure she doesn't eat 10 brownies...etc.etc. - When she was done eating, guess what.. she wanted to go. Does she say goodbye to anyone? No. And of course, I just feel and probably look like a complete idiot. You all know what I mean....and I'm so completely tired of it. COMPLETELY. One woman at school this morning commented to me that Jacqui didn't seem autistic. Yeah, I know. You can't SEE it, until it slaps you upside the head. What was I thinking? I can't go anywhere in public, with strangers. My child is NEVER going to play with more than one child at a time...I'm never going to have a social existence. Why does my life usually seem like it's rolling along well and that Jacqui is doing well? BECAUSE WE LIVE AN AUTISTIC'S LIFE!! Our lives revolve around HER. Period. I'm pissed. I should not be angry at her, but I am. I'm one step short of " Why can't you just go play with your friends " . I know why. and I can't change it. ever. Oh, BTW...Jacqui's perfectly happy now that we're home. Stuck in Autism Hell, Penny " Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane " Dogbert - 6/14/98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Jacquie, I did the same thing, minus the crying...I think I bit**ed and screamed at my family for something like 45 minutes!! My Mom finally stepped in with a cup of coffee, and said hat she'd talk to everyone and make sure they understood, and sent me for a walk....I haven't been that mad in a LONG time, but I felt better!! " It is a curious thought, but it is only when you see people looking ridiculous that you realize just how much you love them. " - Agatha Christie , frazzled mom to: , PDD-NOS, ADHD, Mixed Expressive/Receptive Language Disorder, 4 , NT, Terrible Twos, but adorable none-the-less, 2 Re: Re: Sick and tired of this miserable existence - might be long... >I'm so tired of the " I just don't think he's autistic " , " maybe they mis diagnosed him " , " it's just a phase " . , I finally screamed at a family gathering, " Do you think I WANT him to be autistic??? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I LIVE WITH EVERY DAY! " and then locked myself in the bathroom for an hour and cried my eyes out. Everybody shut up after that. :-) Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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