Re: 911:: NCIC Request/ IQ/FQ

[Guest guest]

We generally only run an IQ/FQ request if we think they might

have history in the 5 states (last I checked) that don't participate

in NCIC III (Hawaii, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, and Vermont).

We get Kentucky anyway. I think I'm the only 1 at my agency

that even knows there are states that aren't in III.

<--geek

Boone Co, Kentucky

[personal] 911:: NCIC Request

> Actually, the logging Requirement is:

>

> a.) For Secondary Dissemination

> b.) If your State Control Terminal doesn't Log it electronically.

>

> I'd like to open a Question for folks.

>

> How many of you Use Triple I (QH/QR) Only

> and never run an IQ/FQ to the potential State

> and/or the same state as the Triple I hit.

>

[Guest guest]

======= At 2004-07-31, 11:37:53 you wrote: =======

>I've learned in my 18 + years that III is only those ARRESTS that were

>fingerprinted.

>There are thousands of arrests where:

> a: Never printed

> b. Prints were of poor quality

> c. The Mailman struck and never delivered them.

>

>Bill

>MA CJIS

>MACJIS0A4

>

We had a county that rarely (if ever) did fingerprint cards on anything but

major crimes like murder, bank robbery etc. And I'm not completely clear that

they even did those. I've wondered about the people in charge in our state,

have they got the authority to tell this county to start making cards? Wonder

if the FBI would have the authority to do same? Or can this ol' county sheriff

just thumb his nose and tell them to talk a hike.

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Best regards.

scott@...

2004-07-31

[Guest guest]

TN puts gun permit info on the DL record. There is a field that states " gun

permit " and the responses are either " valid " or " none " . Thanks for the info on

FQ. I love the KQ, I have found soooo many multiple DUI offenders that way.

Had one once upon a time, I was riding w/ my best friend, a DUI investigator at

the time, and the arrestee was very obnoxious and seemed real familar with the

process, but claimed only one prior. We were suspicious, so back at the ranch I

ran a KQ on the states he'd mentioned living in, and lo and behold I found 4

priors. TN DUI law states that for 3rd offense and beyond, it's a felony.

Also, there is the " 10 year rule " which means if there is a 10 year period w/out

a dui, then they don't count for sentence enhancement. His first prior was more

than 10 years before his second, so we couldn't count that, but it still kicked

him into felony. Moral of the story? Don't piss off the dispatcher who already

hates DUIs to begin with, and knows the computer software really well! :-)

>

>

> Date: 2004/07/31 Sat PM 12:37:53 EDT

> To: <911console >

> Subject: 911:: NCIC Request/ IQ/FQ

>

> I've learned in my 18 + years that III is only those ARRESTS that were

> fingerprinted.

> There are thousands of arrests where:

> a: Never printed

> b. Prints were of poor quality

> c. The Mailman struck and never delivered them.

>

> One of the main statements about III is " that it is not meant to replace,

> the IQ/FQ process " .

>

> III is a good start, and/or pointer index.

>

> In Massachusetts we have Two CHRI file.

> Fingerprinted - Where is contains NO Dispositions

> Non-Fingerprinted - Which contains Dispo's and the Entire Court Activity

> Record. [Dispo's up to the day prior]

>

> I've found, No III record, but found records using IQ/FQ to a III State.

>

> Did anyone know, that RI and NY place Gun Permits into their IQ/FQ Records

> !

>

> Also, one final tip, there are approx 20 states that do not log OUI / DWI

> information in the

> CHRI, but only in the Driving Record [KQ].

>

> I've always taken the issue to Run III or NICS [For Gun Permits], and then

> always run

> surrounding New England States for the IQ/FQ. If anything was found in the

> III, I do run the

> QR, but also Re-run that State using IQ/FQ [for those possible

> Non-Fingerprinted arrests]

>

> I had one recently where a fellow friend called from her state asking me

> what I saw in the

> III for something she had just run. Turns out III only had the One Arrest

> for Kiddie Porn.

> Yes, her states IQ/FQ showed 25 other arrests, for the same charges.

>

>

> Bill

> MA CJIS

> MACJIS0A4

>

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