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> I don't get it. Why bother being focused on them? It will make you

crazy. Its like having a bad lover and getting up each morning and

kissing his picture. Be active, study new things. Forget them, enjoy

yourself and be free of it.

Since I'm the only one who wrote about this convention, I assume this

is directed at me. The convention and hotel strike are front page

news

here. It's not even remotely stalking. It's my perspective. I don't

need to recover from having my own perspective.

Judith

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sometimes it is good to know the enemy. collect documentation, make files,

get duplicates, maybe even put some in plastic (eg. some Nazi paraphenalia

is valuable today). maybe blanket the parking lot with simple fliers with

something like a list of us court cases and synopses adjudicating AA a

religion - or a simple but beguiling statement like " Apply the Serenity

Prayer to your elbow joint "

Bob says " Hey great conference, Joe, hey look what's under my windshield

wiper - it says " Apply the serenity prayer to your elbow joint " hey that's

great. um, Wait a minute, I don't quite get it. Do you Joe? Hmnmm. It

spells out ASPTEJ - good bumper sticker, huh.? "

Joe says, " I know from the past my elbow joint was often out of my control.

So, yeah, its cool. "

" God, meetings, and I being your sponsor, Bob, control your elbow for you

when it gets close to alcohol. I like it. "

" But wait, Joe, don't you think that's going a little too far? "

" Nope, really sums it up. "

Bob mutters " Hmm, I dunno about all this. "

Re: stalking the 12 step convention

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> > I don't get it. Why bother being focused on them? It will make you

> crazy. Its like having a bad lover and getting up each morning and

> kissing his picture. Be active, study new things. Forget them, enjoy

> yourself and be free of it.

>

> Since I'm the only one who wrote about this convention, I assume this

> is directed at me. The convention and hotel strike are front page

> news

> here. It's not even remotely stalking. It's my perspective. I don't

> need to recover from having my own perspective.

>

> Judith

>

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carol i also realize she is still stuck in the crux of aa victomhood, thats

why critisizm of her cronic letter writing has " injured her so " thanks for the

support. even though this is not a war on part, she just cant let it go

jen

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No ken all the emails were messed up this letter has nothing to do with the

convention, i was speaking of an idividual on the list

jen

oh and watch out for me anything you say i will use against you!!

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Hotel and restaurant workers--you know, service sector, they make pretty

lousy wages. A piece about the strike emphasized how it brought together a

cross section of people, including the most recent immigrants from places

like Somalia. The AA conference is the biggest ever to come to MN, something

like 50,000 people.

Tall ships on the Misssissippi would be beautiful indeed. I saw one in Lake

Superior once, it was incredible.

Judith

> Judith,

>

> Why are they striking. I thought all along that the bartenders would

> really be bummed about so many rooms being filled with non drinkers,

> but what are the other beefs?

>

> Tommy

>

> Should we divert the tall ships from the east coast to the northern

> banks of the Mississippi for Independence Day?

>

> http://www.angelfire.com/journal/forcedaa/index.html

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > I don't get it. Why bother being focused on them? It will make

> you

> > crazy. Its like having a bad lover and getting up each morning and

> > kissing his picture. Be active, study new things. Forget them,

> enjoy

> > yourself and be free of it.

> >

> > Since I'm the only one who wrote about this convention, I assume

> this

> > is directed at me. The convention and hotel strike are front page

> > news

> > here. It's not even remotely stalking. It's my perspective. I don't

> > need to recover from having my own perspective.

> >

> > Judith

>

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Great, hope the steppers have to make their own beds and eat peanut

butter sandwiches. Hope the strikers get their raises too.

> > > > I don't get it. Why bother being focused on them? It will

make

> > you

> > > crazy. Its like having a bad lover and getting up each morning

and

> > > kissing his picture. Be active, study new things. Forget

them,

> > enjoy

> > > yourself and be free of it.

> > >

> > > Since I'm the only one who wrote about this convention, I

assume

> > this

> > > is directed at me. The convention and hotel strike are front

page

> > > news

> > > here. It's not even remotely stalking. It's my perspective. I

don't

> > > need to recover from having my own perspective.

> > >

> > > Judith

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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javajenv@... wrote:

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> carol i also realize she is still stuck in the crux of aa victomhood, thats

> why critisizm of her cronic letter writing has " injured her so " thanks for the

> support. even though this is not a war on part, she just cant let it go

> jen

>

Carol, jen,

Is this like " Let go and let God? "

Ken

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javajenv@... wrote:

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> No ken all the emails were messed up this letter has nothing to do with the

> convention, i was speaking of an idividual on the list

> jen

> oh and watch out for me anything you say i will use against you!!

>

jen,

Yes, I'm aware that you were speaking of another individual on the

list.

Ken

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Lane

-- it would make a great new cartoon series " The Recoverees -- an everyday

story of people with elbows " . You've certainly made a good start on the

script,

.

ps -- this suggestion is my intellectual property and entitles me to 5% on

all fortunes made from the series.

D.

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>Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups

>To: <12-step-freeegroups>

>Subject: Re: Re: stalking the 12 step convention

>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:39:34 -0500

>

>sometimes it is good to know the enemy. collect documentation, make files,

>get duplicates, maybe even put some in plastic (eg. some Nazi paraphenalia

>is valuable today). maybe blanket the parking lot with simple fliers with

>something like a list of us court cases and synopses adjudicating AA a

>religion - or a simple but beguiling statement like " Apply the Serenity

>Prayer to your elbow joint "

>

>Bob says " Hey great conference, Joe, hey look what's under my windshield

>wiper - it says " Apply the serenity prayer to your elbow joint " hey that's

>great. um, Wait a minute, I don't quite get it. Do you Joe? Hmnmm. It

>spells out ASPTEJ - good bumper sticker, huh.? "

>Joe says, " I know from the past my elbow joint was often out of my control.

>So, yeah, its cool. "

> " God, meetings, and I being your sponsor, Bob, control your elbow for you

>when it gets close to alcohol. I like it. "

> " But wait, Joe, don't you think that's going a little too far? "

> " Nope, really sums it up. "

>Bob mutters " Hmm, I dunno about all this. "

>

> Re: stalking the 12 step convention

>

>

> >

> > > I don't get it. Why bother being focused on them? It will make you

> > crazy. Its like having a bad lover and getting up each morning and

> > kissing his picture. Be active, study new things. Forget them, enjoy

> > yourself and be free of it.

> >

> > Since I'm the only one who wrote about this convention, I assume this

> > is directed at me. The convention and hotel strike are front page

> > news

> > here. It's not even remotely stalking. It's my perspective. I don't

> > need to recover from having my own perspective.

> >

> > Judith

> >

> >

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> > Shop at gazoontite.com & breathe happier and healthier! Click here!

> > http://click./1/5491/2/_/4324/_/962213999/

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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> >

> >

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It certainly sounds like someone who knows best.

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>Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups

>To: 12-step-freeegroups

>Subject: Re: stalking the 12 step convention

>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:00:00 -0700

>

>

>

>javajenv@... wrote:

> >

> > carol i also realize she is still stuck in the crux of aa victomhood,

>thats

> > why critisizm of her cronic letter writing has " injured her so " thanks

>for the

> > support. even though this is not a war on part, she just cant let it go

> > jen

> >

>

>Carol, jen,

>

>Is this like " Let go and let God? "

>

>Ken

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