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Don't be more brief.

Well, the good part is really that you survived it all and are home

having completed it and between remembering the pain and laughing at

the absurdity of some of it, we're glad you're back.

I have had hundreds of tests and I'm with you completely that

everything has been mild compared to the esophagus

motility/manometry. I cannot use the alternative name I've given that

test on here. I cried, I came close to leaving. I don't think humans

were meant to have to swallow a bulb and a tube all the way down to

their stomach.

14 1/2 vials and three to go after? Oh my. Checking my dipstick, I

don't think I have that much blood.

Hotel attached to hospital isn't smoke free? And of course none of

the employees recognize the fact that you've chosen their lodging

indicates you have health problems or a loved one in the hospital,

but certainly not on your dream vacation.

The history part reminds me of UTSW Neurology and the guy was typing

from what I'd written to enter into system. He couldn't type. I so

wanted to kick him out of the chair and just enter it myself.

Well, again its great to have you home and sharing the story or sage

or nightmare or whatever label one puts on it.

>

> I honestly don't know what to say. Tell you I'm home and leave it

> at that. Tell you about the worst. Tell you about the best. Tell

> you... hmmm...

>

> Let's see. Got there safely, quickly and without any problems

> Tuesday evening. Reported in to Dad and checked in the hotel

> connected by skywalk to the hospital (paid by insurance as part of

> eval.). I had looked it up online and the reviews were it was fine

> and convenient and then others said it was the most horrific hotel

> stay of their life. It was very old, in no way nice or plush, but

> it was fine, clean enough and convenient. There was no wi-fi

access

> so I couldn't use the computer, but we suspected that after the

> reviews. The room was supposed to have a fridge, microwave and

> kitchenette. It had none. We figure we can make due w/ ice but

the

> ice maker was broke. So, now we've just got back to the room from

> shopping for stuff to snack on and drink during our stay and have

no

> way to keep it cool. I called to ask about it. The lady

> immediately gets snippy w/ me and says you didn't ask for it when

> you checked in. I said I didn't know I was supposed to because in

> my paperwork from the hospital it said that's what I was booked

> for. She says there is one room left w/ those facilities.

> gets the key and moves 2 trolly loads to the room and then I walk

in

> and it smells like smoke. I sat down and started crying because

> here he just moved it all and the lady is making me feel like I'm

> being difficult and I just want to not stress, get settled in and

> uggghhh. I know I'll be ill from the smell of old settled in smoke

> and the room was set up super " handicapable " . It had tile instead

> of carpet and was all wheelchair set up. It was as un " comfy "

> feeling as could be. Horrible. My husband is standing there

> waiting for me to calm down and make the command decision. I said,

> yes, go back get the key back to the other room and move everything

> back. We'll make due w/ all our food, drink, snacks on ice even if

> we have to go to the store for some. We had bought a big insulated

> bag and found another functioning ice maker. As we finally lay

down

> to sleep at 11:30 to get up at 5:30 am we hear an ambulance

siren...

> oh no, this is going to be a long night. Shockingly, that was the

> only time we heard anything and we slept great.

>

> As I reported to Joyce the morning started w/ 7am blood tests and

> I'm dehydrated to start because of the no eating or drinking after

> midnight. I am a big baby w/ needles and blood, but I'm better

than

> I used to be. I just warn them I'm a baby and I don't look at the

> needle. I've had blood drawn though multiple times for full

> physicals, hospitalization, testing during both pregnancy's and in

> August had the latest panel done for all the AI's, etc. I have

> never felt this bad. After a bit I said I really feel warm. Then

I

> said I mean really warm, I'm in a full body sweat and I start

> feeling faint and sick. I'm looking at like " serious, I'm

not

> kidding " . He says can we get her some water and a wet towel and

the

> lady doing the draw is loudly telling me to keep my eyes open.

> They're all rushing around and saying stay w/ me. She's asking me

> if I want her to stop and then my vein collapses so they have to.

I

> of course have no idea where we are in the process. I didn't know

> until hours later we were at 14 1/2 vials. After a little recovery

> time, water and wet towels she got 3 more vials from my other arm.

> Then off to Endoscopy, which shall henceforth live in my mind as

the

> torture chambers. I knew about the 24 hour PH probe, but somehow

> missed the memo on the esophageal manometry test. I have to wait

> around for a long time and then learn 2 students will be

observing.

> Finally we go in the room. He takes my history and that takes

> forever, he's as slow as molasses and can't take any multiple

> answers and I have to spell everything. I getting annoyed and just

> trying to get thru it ask quickly as possible realizing this guys

> limitations and working thru it. I'm giving the look and he

> understands. He said after even the students were making fun of

> him. After all this he gives me lidocaine to hold in the back of

my

> throat for a minute and then swallow. This is like fricken poison

> and has no flavoring to disguise. Why is this. They can flavor

> everything nowadays, why am I drinking something that tastes like

> poison. I'm totally grossed out and want to puke from that alone.

> Then he injects another gel to numb my nose and says now this is

> gonna burn. Oh boy, this keeps getting better. He gets out the

> probe and explains that he's gonna put it in my nose and then I

have

> to drink water thru a straw to swallow it down. What? So, now I

> realize I'm like a circus freak doing sword swallowing tricks. I

> get it all the way down and then I start dry heaving like nobody's

> business. I'm violently heaving and he's trying to hold me still

> and get the stuff set up. He's telling me to keep my eyes open,

> open my mouth and breath thru my mouth. Then of course my O2 drops

> low and he's cranking it up and telling me to breath deep. I am

and

> finally I get my breathing under control thru my nose and had to

> summon all my strength and go to another place. I used everything

> I've learned from the years of yoga, meditation, relaxation. I had

> my eyes on one place to block out the tech, the students, the tube,

> everything. I was focused yet, soooo not there. All the while I

> have to still pay attention to his instructions. I have to swallow

> 5 cc's of water from a syringe 10 times w/ the probe in 1 spot,

then

> he pulls some out and of course ends up having to push some back in

> and out, every time. Then 10 more times, then 6 times, then 6

> times. I didn't count I heard him telling the students this at the

> end. At the end of all this the probe is removed I'm furious at

> this torture and my nose, throat and inner ear are killing me. He

> tells me that the 24 hour probe is nothing in comparison to this.

> However, to complicate things they don't have the probe available

> yet so I'll have to come back in a couple hours to get it. So,

this

> now extends my fasting period and the 24 hours later for fasting

the

> next morning and messes up the schedule for that day and the next.

> I went to the EKG and echo and thank goodness those were as

pleasant

> as could be. I go back for the probe and I'm thinking that I have

> endured the worst and this will just be annoying in comparison to

> the garden hose I've had jabbed down my throat. I have to wait

> around for like a hour and during that time I have one of my

> coughing attacks and the tech walked in and was freaking out. He's

> asking is she okay, is this normal. said yes, just

> crank her O2, get her kleenex and a cold rag. I finally get thru

> that and now the probe. Guess what it is really not that much

> smaller and it seems way less flexible and now we have to go thru

> the numbing a second time and I'm already sore. I couldn't believe

> how uncomfortable it was and I've just had a coughing attack and

> those bring me to the edge of panic and any out of breath moments

> bring me to the edge of panic and now I feel panicked about the

idea

> of this thing in my throat for 24 hours. OMG!!! I was crying and

> telling I couldn't do it. I was so upset and so scared. He

> said we can have them take it out right now and go home, you tell

> me. But if we do you realize that's it. Just tell me what you

want

> to do. I had him take me to the coordinators area in the hospital

> and I could barely think or talk, but I asked to see her and

> proceeded to break down in tears again and I begged her to do any

> other procedure or reschedule the next morning so I had nothing to

> deal w/ besides this and could just go do nothing until the 24

hours

> was over. I was remembering that Judy said they didn't even do

this

> test anymore and did the BRAVO Clip which was a camera they put

down

> in you and was passed. I asked about that, she looked at me as if

I

> was crazy. Like she'd never heard of it. I said I know a woman

who

> just got her transplant hear w/ you and she had it. Nope, this is

> the test, this is what they do, this is what the doctor ordered.

> She could cancel everything and I could try another time. I really

> was 2 seconds from yanking this thing out of my throat. I had

> take me back to the room. I fully expected that sometime in the

> next 24 hours I would pull it out. Somehow, I was able to nap and

> somehow make it thru I don't know how. I have now just taken

> forever to tell this tale and I'm just thru the 1st part. My

> daughter has been patiently waiting on me so I'll have to do part 2

> later. This really is the worst part though, some other things

were

> annoying, aggravating, some fine, some pleasant, some fantastic.

> Anyway, thanks for all the prayers, well wishes and loving

support.

> Like I said the rest was all just there in comparison. I'll try to

> be more brief w/ part 2. Off to appease my daughter.

>

> Kerry

> IPF '01

> S. IN

>

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Kerry, Oh! God bless you! How horrible to go through all that. You

are so brave. I hope the results of all these tests are positive.

Extra hugs and prayers,

Kathie WA nsip '96

-- In Breathe-Support , " Kerry " wrote:

>

> I honestly don't know what to say. Tell you I'm home and leave it

> at that. Tell you about the worst. Tell you about the best. Tell

> you... hmmm...

>

> Let's see. Got there safely, quickly and without any problems

> Tuesday evening. Reported in to Dad and checked in the hotel

> connected by skywalk to the hospital (paid by insurance as part of

> eval.). I had looked it up online and the reviews were it was fine

> and convenient and then others said it was the most horrific hotel

> stay of their life. It was very old, in no way nice or plush, but

> it was fine, clean enough and convenient. There was no wi-fi

access

> so I couldn't use the computer, but we suspected that after the

> reviews. The room was supposed to have a fridge, microwave and

> kitchenette. It had none. We figure we can make due w/ ice but

the

> ice maker was broke. So, now we've just got back to the room from

> shopping for stuff to snack on and drink during our stay and have

no

> way to keep it cool. I called to ask about it. The lady

> immediately gets snippy w/ me and says you didn't ask for it when

> you checked in. I said I didn't know I was supposed to because in

> my paperwork from the hospital it said that's what I was booked

> for. She says there is one room left w/ those facilities.

> gets the key and moves 2 trolly loads to the room and then I walk

in

> and it smells like smoke. I sat down and started crying because

> here he just moved it all and the lady is making me feel like I'm

> being difficult and I just want to not stress, get settled in and

> uggghhh. I know I'll be ill from the smell of old settled in smoke

> and the room was set up super " handicapable " . It had tile instead

> of carpet and was all wheelchair set up. It was as un " comfy "

> feeling as could be. Horrible. My husband is standing there

> waiting for me to calm down and make the command decision. I said,

> yes, go back get the key back to the other room and move everything

> back. We'll make due w/ all our food, drink, snacks on ice even if

> we have to go to the store for some. We had bought a big insulated

> bag and found another functioning ice maker. As we finally lay

down

> to sleep at 11:30 to get up at 5:30 am we hear an ambulance

siren...

> oh no, this is going to be a long night. Shockingly, that was the

> only time we heard anything and we slept great.

>

> As I reported to Joyce the morning started w/ 7am blood tests and

> I'm dehydrated to start because of the no eating or drinking after

> midnight. I am a big baby w/ needles and blood, but I'm better

than

> I used to be. I just warn them I'm a baby and I don't look at the

> needle. I've had blood drawn though multiple times for full

> physicals, hospitalization, testing during both pregnancy's and in

> August had the latest panel done for all the AI's, etc. I have

> never felt this bad. After a bit I said I really feel warm. Then

I

> said I mean really warm, I'm in a full body sweat and I start

> feeling faint and sick. I'm looking at like " serious, I'm

not

> kidding " . He says can we get her some water and a wet towel and

the

> lady doing the draw is loudly telling me to keep my eyes open.

> They're all rushing around and saying stay w/ me. She's asking me

> if I want her to stop and then my vein collapses so they have to.

I

> of course have no idea where we are in the process. I didn't know

> until hours later we were at 14 1/2 vials. After a little recovery

> time, water and wet towels she got 3 more vials from my other arm.

> Then off to Endoscopy, which shall henceforth live in my mind as

the

> torture chambers. I knew about the 24 hour PH probe, but somehow

> missed the memo on the esophageal manometry test. I have to wait

> around for a long time and then learn 2 students will be

observing.

> Finally we go in the room. He takes my history and that takes

> forever, he's as slow as molasses and can't take any multiple

> answers and I have to spell everything. I getting annoyed and just

> trying to get thru it ask quickly as possible realizing this guys

> limitations and working thru it. I'm giving the look and he

> understands. He said after even the students were making fun of

> him. After all this he gives me lidocaine to hold in the back of

my

> throat for a minute and then swallow. This is like fricken poison

> and has no flavoring to disguise. Why is this. They can flavor

> everything nowadays, why am I drinking something that tastes like

> poison. I'm totally grossed out and want to puke from that alone.

> Then he injects another gel to numb my nose and says now this is

> gonna burn. Oh boy, this keeps getting better. He gets out the

> probe and explains that he's gonna put it in my nose and then I

have

> to drink water thru a straw to swallow it down. What? So, now I

> realize I'm like a circus freak doing sword swallowing tricks. I

> get it all the way down and then I start dry heaving like nobody's

> business. I'm violently heaving and he's trying to hold me still

> and get the stuff set up. He's telling me to keep my eyes open,

> open my mouth and breath thru my mouth. Then of course my O2 drops

> low and he's cranking it up and telling me to breath deep. I am

and

> finally I get my breathing under control thru my nose and had to

> summon all my strength and go to another place. I used everything

> I've learned from the years of yoga, meditation, relaxation. I had

> my eyes on one place to block out the tech, the students, the tube,

> everything. I was focused yet, soooo not there. All the while I

> have to still pay attention to his instructions. I have to swallow

> 5 cc's of water from a syringe 10 times w/ the probe in 1 spot,

then

> he pulls some out and of course ends up having to push some back in

> and out, every time. Then 10 more times, then 6 times, then 6

> times. I didn't count I heard him telling the students this at the

> end. At the end of all this the probe is removed I'm furious at

> this torture and my nose, throat and inner ear are killing me. He

> tells me that the 24 hour probe is nothing in comparison to this.

> However, to complicate things they don't have the probe available

> yet so I'll have to come back in a couple hours to get it. So,

this

> now extends my fasting period and the 24 hours later for fasting

the

> next morning and messes up the schedule for that day and the next.

> I went to the EKG and echo and thank goodness those were as

pleasant

> as could be. I go back for the probe and I'm thinking that I have

> endured the worst and this will just be annoying in comparison to

> the garden hose I've had jabbed down my throat. I have to wait

> around for like a hour and during that time I have one of my

> coughing attacks and the tech walked in and was freaking out. He's

> asking is she okay, is this normal. said yes, just

> crank her O2, get her kleenex and a cold rag. I finally get thru

> that and now the probe. Guess what it is really not that much

> smaller and it seems way less flexible and now we have to go thru

> the numbing a second time and I'm already sore. I couldn't believe

> how uncomfortable it was and I've just had a coughing attack and

> those bring me to the edge of panic and any out of breath moments

> bring me to the edge of panic and now I feel panicked about the

idea

> of this thing in my throat for 24 hours. OMG!!! I was crying and

> telling I couldn't do it. I was so upset and so scared. He

> said we can have them take it out right now and go home, you tell

> me. But if we do you realize that's it. Just tell me what you

want

> to do. I had him take me to the coordinators area in the hospital

> and I could barely think or talk, but I asked to see her and

> proceeded to break down in tears again and I begged her to do any

> other procedure or reschedule the next morning so I had nothing to

> deal w/ besides this and could just go do nothing until the 24

hours

> was over. I was remembering that Judy said they didn't even do

this

> test anymore and did the BRAVO Clip which was a camera they put

down

> in you and was passed. I asked about that, she looked at me as if

I

> was crazy. Like she'd never heard of it. I said I know a woman

who

> just got her transplant hear w/ you and she had it. Nope, this is

> the test, this is what they do, this is what the doctor ordered.

> She could cancel everything and I could try another time. I really

> was 2 seconds from yanking this thing out of my throat. I had

> take me back to the room. I fully expected that sometime in the

> next 24 hours I would pull it out. Somehow, I was able to nap and

> somehow make it thru I don't know how. I have now just taken

> forever to tell this tale and I'm just thru the 1st part. My

> daughter has been patiently waiting on me so I'll have to do part 2

> later. This really is the worst part though, some other things

were

> annoying, aggravating, some fine, some pleasant, some fantastic.

> Anyway, thanks for all the prayers, well wishes and loving

support.

> Like I said the rest was all just there in comparison. I'll try to

> be more brief w/ part 2. Off to appease my daughter.

>

> Kerry

> IPF '01

> S. IN

>

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Kerry,

I thought my evaluations were hell, but not in comparison to yours!

I truly felt your pain in your descriptions. I have went through the

evaluations two times, but still nothing in comparison. I am glad to

hear you made it through all of this. Your determination is so

astounding. It's hard to know how much we can handle when we have to.

God Bless,

Tina

IPF 04/07 PH 11/07 Ohio

>

> I honestly don't know what to say. Tell you I'm home and leave it

> at that. Tell you about the worst. Tell you about the best. Tell

> you... hmmm...

>

> Let's see. Got there safely, quickly and without any problems

> Tuesday evening. Reported in to Dad and checked in the hotel

> connected by skywalk to the hospital (paid by insurance as part of

> eval.). I had looked it up online and the reviews were it was fine

> and convenient and then others said it was the most horrific hotel

> stay of their life. It was very old, in no way nice or plush, but

> it was fine, clean enough and convenient. There was no wi-fi

access

> so I couldn't use the computer, but we suspected that after the

> reviews. The room was supposed to have a fridge, microwave and

> kitchenette. It had none. We figure we can make due w/ ice but

the

> ice maker was broke. So, now we've just got back to the room from

> shopping for stuff to snack on and drink during our stay and have

no

> way to keep it cool. I called to ask about it. The lady

> immediately gets snippy w/ me and says you didn't ask for it when

> you checked in. I said I didn't know I was supposed to because in

> my paperwork from the hospital it said that's what I was booked

> for. She says there is one room left w/ those facilities.

> gets the key and moves 2 trolly loads to the room and then I walk

in

> and it smells like smoke. I sat down and started crying because

> here he just moved it all and the lady is making me feel like I'm

> being difficult and I just want to not stress, get settled in and

> uggghhh. I know I'll be ill from the smell of old settled in smoke

> and the room was set up super " handicapable " . It had tile instead

> of carpet and was all wheelchair set up. It was as un " comfy "

> feeling as could be. Horrible. My husband is standing there

> waiting for me to calm down and make the command decision. I said,

> yes, go back get the key back to the other room and move everything

> back. We'll make due w/ all our food, drink, snacks on ice even if

> we have to go to the store for some. We had bought a big insulated

> bag and found another functioning ice maker. As we finally lay

down

> to sleep at 11:30 to get up at 5:30 am we hear an ambulance

siren...

> oh no, this is going to be a long night. Shockingly, that was the

> only time we heard anything and we slept great.

>

> As I reported to Joyce the morning started w/ 7am blood tests and

> I'm dehydrated to start because of the no eating or drinking after

> midnight. I am a big baby w/ needles and blood, but I'm better

than

> I used to be. I just warn them I'm a baby and I don't look at the

> needle. I've had blood drawn though multiple times for full

> physicals, hospitalization, testing during both pregnancy's and in

> August had the latest panel done for all the AI's, etc. I have

> never felt this bad. After a bit I said I really feel warm. Then

I

> said I mean really warm, I'm in a full body sweat and I start

> feeling faint and sick. I'm looking at like " serious, I'm

not

> kidding " . He says can we get her some water and a wet towel and

the

> lady doing the draw is loudly telling me to keep my eyes open.

> They're all rushing around and saying stay w/ me. She's asking me

> if I want her to stop and then my vein collapses so they have to.

I

> of course have no idea where we are in the process. I didn't know

> until hours later we were at 14 1/2 vials. After a little recovery

> time, water and wet towels she got 3 more vials from my other arm.

> Then off to Endoscopy, which shall henceforth live in my mind as

the

> torture chambers. I knew about the 24 hour PH probe, but somehow

> missed the memo on the esophageal manometry test. I have to wait

> around for a long time and then learn 2 students will be

observing.

> Finally we go in the room. He takes my history and that takes

> forever, he's as slow as molasses and can't take any multiple

> answers and I have to spell everything. I getting annoyed and just

> trying to get thru it ask quickly as possible realizing this guys

> limitations and working thru it. I'm giving the look and he

> understands. He said after even the students were making fun of

> him. After all this he gives me lidocaine to hold in the back of

my

> throat for a minute and then swallow. This is like fricken poison

> and has no flavoring to disguise. Why is this. They can flavor

> everything nowadays, why am I drinking something that tastes like

> poison. I'm totally grossed out and want to puke from that alone.

> Then he injects another gel to numb my nose and says now this is

> gonna burn. Oh boy, this keeps getting better. He gets out the

> probe and explains that he's gonna put it in my nose and then I

have

> to drink water thru a straw to swallow it down. What? So, now I

> realize I'm like a circus freak doing sword swallowing tricks. I

> get it all the way down and then I start dry heaving like nobody's

> business. I'm violently heaving and he's trying to hold me still

> and get the stuff set up. He's telling me to keep my eyes open,

> open my mouth and breath thru my mouth. Then of course my O2 drops

> low and he's cranking it up and telling me to breath deep. I am

and

> finally I get my breathing under control thru my nose and had to

> summon all my strength and go to another place. I used everything

> I've learned from the years of yoga, meditation, relaxation. I had

> my eyes on one place to block out the tech, the students, the tube,

> everything. I was focused yet, soooo not there. All the while I

> have to still pay attention to his instructions. I have to swallow

> 5 cc's of water from a syringe 10 times w/ the probe in 1 spot,

then

> he pulls some out and of course ends up having to push some back in

> and out, every time. Then 10 more times, then 6 times, then 6

> times. I didn't count I heard him telling the students this at the

> end. At the end of all this the probe is removed I'm furious at

> this torture and my nose, throat and inner ear are killing me. He

> tells me that the 24 hour probe is nothing in comparison to this.

> However, to complicate things they don't have the probe available

> yet so I'll have to come back in a couple hours to get it. So,

this

> now extends my fasting period and the 24 hours later for fasting

the

> next morning and messes up the schedule for that day and the next.

> I went to the EKG and echo and thank goodness those were as

pleasant

> as could be. I go back for the probe and I'm thinking that I have

> endured the worst and this will just be annoying in comparison to

> the garden hose I've had jabbed down my throat. I have to wait

> around for like a hour and during that time I have one of my

> coughing attacks and the tech walked in and was freaking out. He's

> asking is she okay, is this normal. said yes, just

> crank her O2, get her kleenex and a cold rag. I finally get thru

> that and now the probe. Guess what it is really not that much

> smaller and it seems way less flexible and now we have to go thru

> the numbing a second time and I'm already sore. I couldn't believe

> how uncomfortable it was and I've just had a coughing attack and

> those bring me to the edge of panic and any out of breath moments

> bring me to the edge of panic and now I feel panicked about the

idea

> of this thing in my throat for 24 hours. OMG!!! I was crying and

> telling I couldn't do it. I was so upset and so scared. He

> said we can have them take it out right now and go home, you tell

> me. But if we do you realize that's it. Just tell me what you

want

> to do. I had him take me to the coordinators area in the hospital

> and I could barely think or talk, but I asked to see her and

> proceeded to break down in tears again and I begged her to do any

> other procedure or reschedule the next morning so I had nothing to

> deal w/ besides this and could just go do nothing until the 24

hours

> was over. I was remembering that Judy said they didn't even do

this

> test anymore and did the BRAVO Clip which was a camera they put

down

> in you and was passed. I asked about that, she looked at me as if

I

> was crazy. Like she'd never heard of it. I said I know a woman

who

> just got her transplant hear w/ you and she had it. Nope, this is

> the test, this is what they do, this is what the doctor ordered.

> She could cancel everything and I could try another time. I really

> was 2 seconds from yanking this thing out of my throat. I had

> take me back to the room. I fully expected that sometime in the

> next 24 hours I would pull it out. Somehow, I was able to nap and

> somehow make it thru I don't know how. I have now just taken

> forever to tell this tale and I'm just thru the 1st part. My

> daughter has been patiently waiting on me so I'll have to do part 2

> later. This really is the worst part though, some other things

were

> annoying, aggravating, some fine, some pleasant, some fantastic.

> Anyway, thanks for all the prayers, well wishes and loving

support.

> Like I said the rest was all just there in comparison. I'll try to

> be more brief w/ part 2. Off to appease my daughter.

>

> Kerry

> IPF '01

> S. IN

>

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OMG Kerry. I " m speechless how horrible. I just pray

you get good results.

IPF 2/07 IL

--- Kerry wrote:

> I honestly don't know what to say. Tell you I'm

> home and leave it

> at that. Tell you about the worst. Tell you about

> the best. Tell

> you... hmmm...

>

> Let's see. Got there safely, quickly and without

> any problems

> Tuesday evening. Reported in to Dad and checked in

> the hotel

> connected by skywalk to the hospital (paid by

> insurance as part of

> eval.). I had looked it up online and the reviews

> were it was fine

> and convenient and then others said it was the most

> horrific hotel

> stay of their life. It was very old, in no way nice

> or plush, but

> it was fine, clean enough and convenient. There was

> no wi-fi access

> so I couldn't use the computer, but we suspected

> that after the

> reviews. The room was supposed to have a fridge,

> microwave and

> kitchenette. It had none. We figure we can make

> due w/ ice but the

> ice maker was broke. So, now we've just got back to

> the room from

> shopping for stuff to snack on and drink during our

> stay and have no

> way to keep it cool. I called to ask about it. The

> lady

> immediately gets snippy w/ me and says you didn't

> ask for it when

> you checked in. I said I didn't know I was supposed

> to because in

> my paperwork from the hospital it said that's what I

> was booked

> for. She says there is one room left w/ those

> facilities.

> gets the key and moves 2 trolly loads to the room

> and then I walk in

> and it smells like smoke. I sat down and started

> crying because

> here he just moved it all and the lady is making me

> feel like I'm

> being difficult and I just want to not stress, get

> settled in and

> uggghhh. I know I'll be ill from the smell of old

> settled in smoke

> and the room was set up super " handicapable " . It

> had tile instead

> of carpet and was all wheelchair set up. It was as

> un " comfy "

> feeling as could be. Horrible. My husband is

> standing there

> waiting for me to calm down and make the command

> decision. I said,

> yes, go back get the key back to the other room and

> move everything

> back. We'll make due w/ all our food, drink, snacks

> on ice even if

> we have to go to the store for some. We had bought

> a big insulated

> bag and found another functioning ice maker. As we

> finally lay down

> to sleep at 11:30 to get up at 5:30 am we hear an

> ambulance siren...

> oh no, this is going to be a long night.

> Shockingly, that was the

> only time we heard anything and we slept great.

>

> As I reported to Joyce the morning started w/ 7am

> blood tests and

> I'm dehydrated to start because of the no eating or

> drinking after

> midnight. I am a big baby w/ needles and blood, but

> I'm better than

> I used to be. I just warn them I'm a baby and I

> don't look at the

> needle. I've had blood drawn though multiple times

> for full

> physicals, hospitalization, testing during both

> pregnancy's and in

> August had the latest panel done for all the AI's,

> etc. I have

> never felt this bad. After a bit I said I really

> feel warm. Then I

> said I mean really warm, I'm in a full body sweat

> and I start

> feeling faint and sick. I'm looking at like

> " serious, I'm not

> kidding " . He says can we get her some water and a

> wet towel and the

> lady doing the draw is loudly telling me to keep my

> eyes open.

> They're all rushing around and saying stay w/ me.

> She's asking me

> if I want her to stop and then my vein collapses so

> they have to. I

> of course have no idea where we are in the process.

> I didn't know

> until hours later we were at 14 1/2 vials. After a

> little recovery

> time, water and wet towels she got 3 more vials from

> my other arm.

> Then off to Endoscopy, which shall henceforth live

> in my mind as the

> torture chambers. I knew about the 24 hour PH

> probe, but somehow

> missed the memo on the esophageal manometry test. I

> have to wait

> around for a long time and then learn 2 students

> will be observing.

> Finally we go in the room. He takes my history and

> that takes

> forever, he's as slow as molasses and can't take any

> multiple

> answers and I have to spell everything. I getting

> annoyed and just

> trying to get thru it ask quickly as possible

> realizing this guys

> limitations and working thru it. I'm giving

> the look and he

> understands. He said after even the students were

> making fun of

> him. After all this he gives me lidocaine to hold

> in the back of my

> throat for a minute and then swallow. This is like

> fricken poison

> and has no flavoring to disguise. Why is this.

> They can flavor

> everything nowadays, why am I drinking something

> that tastes like

> poison. I'm totally grossed out and want to puke

> from that alone.

> Then he injects another gel to numb my nose and says

> now this is

> gonna burn. Oh boy, this keeps getting better. He

> gets out the

> probe and explains that he's gonna put it in my nose

> and then I have

> to drink water thru a straw to swallow it down.

> What? So, now I

> realize I'm like a circus freak doing sword

> swallowing tricks. I

> get it all the way down and then I start dry heaving

> like nobody's

> business. I'm violently heaving and he's trying to

> hold me still

> and get the stuff set up. He's telling me to keep

> my eyes open,

> open my mouth and breath thru my mouth. Then of

> course my O2 drops

> low and he's cranking it up and telling me to breath

> deep. I am and

> finally I get my breathing under control thru my

> nose and had to

> summon all my strength and go to another place. I

> used everything

> I've learned from the years of yoga, meditation,

> relaxation. I had

> my eyes on one place to block out the tech, the

> students, the tube,

> everything. I was focused yet, soooo not there.

> All the while I

> have to still pay attention to his instructions. I

> have to swallow

> 5 cc's of water from a syringe 10 times w/ the probe

> in 1 spot, then

> he pulls some out and of course ends up having to

> push some back in

> and out, every time. Then 10 more times, then 6

> times, then 6

> times. I didn't count I heard him telling the

> students this at the

> end. At the end of all this the probe is removed

> I'm furious at

> this torture and my nose, throat and inner ear are

> killing me. He

> tells me that the 24 hour probe is nothing in

> comparison to this.

> However, to complicate things they don't have the

> probe available

> yet so I'll have to come back in a couple hours to

> get it. So, this

> now extends my fasting period and the 24 hours later

> for fasting the

> next morning and messes up the schedule for that day

> and the next.

> I went to the EKG and echo and thank goodness those

> were as pleasant

> as could be. I go back for the probe and I'm

> thinking that I have

> endured the worst and this will just be annoying in

> comparison to

> the garden hose I've had jabbed down my throat. I

> have to wait

> around for like a hour and during that time I have

> one of my

> coughing attacks and the tech walked in and was

> freaking

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Kerry,

I am soooooooooooooooooo sorry you had to endure all that, it must of been horrific for you. I'm keeping you in my prayers.

Love,

Vicky81856

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I honestly don't know what to say. Tell you I'm home and leave it at that. Tell you about the worst. Tell you about the best. Tell you... hmmm...Let's see. Got there safely, quickly and without any problems Tuesday evening. Reported in to Dad and checked in the hotel connected by skywalk to the hospital (paid by insurance as part of eval.). I had looked it up online and the reviews were it was fine and convenient and then others said it was the most horrific hotel stay of their life. It was very old, in no way nice or plush, but it was fine, clean enough and convenient. There was no wi-fi access so I couldn't use the computer, but we suspected that after the reviews. The room was supposed to have a fridge, microwave and kitchenette. It had none. We figure we can make due w/ ice but the ice maker was broke. So, now we've just got back to the room from shopping for stuff to snack on and drink during our stay and have no way to keep it cool. I called to ask about it. The lady immediately gets snippy w/ me and says you didn't ask for it when you checked in. I said I didn't know I was supposed to because in my paperwork from the hospital it said that's what I was booked for. She says there is one room left w/ those facilities. gets the key and moves 2 trolly loads to the room and then I walk in and it smells like smoke. I sat down and started crying because here he just moved it all and the lady is making me feel like I'm being difficult and I just want to not stress, get settled in and uggghhh. I know I'll be ill from the smell of old settled in smoke and the room was set up super "handicapable". It had tile instead of carpet and was all wheelchair set up. It was as un"comfy" feeling as could be. Horrible. My husband is standing there waiting for me to calm down and make the command decision. I said, yes, go back get the key back to the other room and move everything back. We'll make due w/ all our food, drink, snacks on ice even if we have to go to the store for some. We had bought a big insulated bag and found another functioning ice maker. As we finally lay down to sleep at 11:30 to get up at 5:30 am we hear an ambulance siren... oh no, this is going to be a long night. Shockingly, that was the only time we heard anything and we slept great.As I reported to Joyce the morning started w/ 7am blood tests and I'm dehydrated to start because of the no eating or drinking after midnight. I am a big baby w/ needles and blood, but I'm better than I used to be. I just warn them I'm a baby and I don't look at the needle. I've had blood drawn though multiple times for full physicals, hospitalization, testing during both pregnancy's and in August had the latest panel done for all the AI's, etc. I have never felt this bad. After a bit I said I really feel warm. Then I said I mean really warm, I'm in a full body sweat and I start feeling faint and sick. I'm looking at like "serious, I'm not kidding". He says can we get her some water and a wet towel and the lady doing the draw is loudly telling me to keep my eyes open. They're all rushing around and saying stay w/ me. She's asking me if I want her to stop and then my vein collapses so they have to. I of course have no idea where we are in the process. I didn't know until hours later we were at 14 1/2 vials. After a little recovery time, water and wet towels she got 3 more vials from my other arm. Then off to Endoscopy, which shall henceforth live in my mind as the torture chambers. I knew about the 24 hour PH probe, but somehow missed the memo on the esophageal manometry test. I have to wait around for a long time and then learn 2 students will be observing. Finally we go in the room. He takes my history and that takes forever, he's as slow as molasses and can't take any multiple answers and I have to spell everything. I getting annoyed and just trying to get thru it ask quickly as possible realizing this guys limitations and working thru it. I'm giving the look and he understands. He said after even the students were making fun of him. After all this he gives me lidocaine to hold in the back of my throat for a minute and then swallow. This is like fricken poison and has no flavoring to disguise. Why is this. They can flavor everything nowadays, why am I drinking something that tastes like poison. I'm totally grossed out and want to puke from that alone. Then he injects another gel to numb my nose and says now this is gonna burn. Oh boy, this keeps getting better. He gets out the probe and explains that he's gonna put it in my nose and then I have to drink water thru a straw to swallow it down. What? So, now I realize I'm like a circus freak doing sword swallowing tricks. I get it all the way down and then I start dry heaving like nobody's business. I'm violently heaving and he's trying to hold me still and get the stuff set up. He's telling me to keep my eyes open, open my mouth and breath thru my mouth. Then of course my O2 drops low and he's cranking it up and telling me to breath deep. I am and finally I get my breathing under control thru my nose and had to summon all my strength and go to another place. I used everything I've learned from the years of yoga, meditation, relaxation. I had my eyes on one place to block out the tech, the students, the tube, everything. I was focused yet, soooo not there. All the while I have to still pay attention to his instructions. I have to swallow 5 cc's of water from a syringe 10 times w/ the probe in 1 spot, then he pulls some out and of course ends up having to push some back in and out, every time. Then 10 more times, then 6 times, then 6 times. I didn't count I heard him telling the students this at the end. At the end of all this the probe is removed I'm furious at this torture and my nose, throat and inner ear are killing me. He tells me that the 24 hour probe is nothing in comparison to this. However, to complicate things they don't have the probe available yet so I'll have to come back in a couple hours to get it. So, this now extends my fasting period and the 24 hours later for fasting the next morning and messes up the schedule for that day and the next. I went to the EKG and echo and thank goodness those were as pleasant as could be. I go back for the probe and I'm thinking that I have endured the worst and this will just be annoying in comparison to the garden hose I've had jabbed down my throat. I have to wait around for like a hour and during that time I have one of my coughing attacks and the tech walked in and was freaking out. He's asking is she okay, is this normal. said yes, just crank her O2, get her kleenex and a cold rag. I finally get thru that and now the probe. Guess what it is really not that much smaller and it seems way less flexible and now we have to go thru the numbing a second time and I'm already sore. I couldn't believe how uncomfortable it was and I've just had a coughing attack and those bring me to the edge of panic and any out of breath moments bring me to the edge of panic and now I feel panicked about the idea of this thing in my throat for 24 hours. OMG!!! I was crying and telling I couldn't do it. I was so upset and so scared. He said we can have them take it out right now and go home, you tell me. But if we do you realize that's it. Just tell me what you want to do. I had him take me to the coordinators area in the hospital and I could barely think or talk, but I asked to see her and proceeded to break down in tears again and I begged her to do any other procedure or reschedule the next morning so I had nothing to deal w/ besides this and could just go do nothing until the 24 hours was over. I was remembering that Judy said they didn't even do this test anymore and did the BRAVO Clip which was a camera they put down in you and was passed. I asked about that, she looked at me as if I was crazy. Like she'd never heard of it. I said I know a woman who just got her transplant hear w/ you and she had it. Nope, this is the test, this is what they do, this is what the doctor ordered. She could cancel everything and I could try another time. I really was 2 seconds from yanking this thing out of my throat. I had take me back to the room. I fully expected that sometime in the next 24 hours I would pull it out. Somehow, I was able to nap and somehow make it thru I don't know how. I have now just taken forever to tell this tale and I'm just thru the 1st part. My daughter has been patiently waiting on me so I'll have to do part 2 later. This really is the worst part though, some other things were annoying, aggravating, some fine, some pleasant, some fantastic. Anyway, thanks for all the prayers, well wishes and loving support. Like I said the rest was all just there in comparison. I'll try to be more brief w/ part 2. Off to appease my daughter.KerryIPF '01S. IN Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

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Kerry,

Remember when you get rested, I want first hand account. I did not do any of the GERD tests at my evaluation. I had some gruesome hoses down the nose ordeals during my Larynx exams and biopsy a couple of years ago. It is over now and you were brave and made it through it. I thank God for that. I'm glad you are home with your babies. Rest up and wait for the reports. Did you tell them that you want your own copies?

Hugs, Joyce D.

Pulmonary Fibrosis 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 Pulmonary Hypertension 2008 Mixed Connective Tissue Disease (Lupus, RA, Sjogren's, etc) Rejected for Transplant 2006

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>> I honestly don't know what to say. Tell you I'm home and leave it > at that. Tell you about the worst. Tell you about the best. Tell > you... hmmm...> > Let's see. Got there safely, quickly and without any problems > Tuesday evening. Reported in to Dad and checked in the hotel > connected by skywalk to the hospital (paid by insurance as part of > eval.). I had looked it up online and the reviews were it was fine > and convenient and then others said it was the most horrific hotel > stay of their life. It was very old, in no way nice or plush, but > it was fine, clean enough and convenient. There was no wi-fi access > so I couldn't use the computer, but we suspected that after the > reviews. The room was supposed to have a fridge, microwave and > kitchenette. It had none. We figure we can make due w/ ice but the > ice maker was broke. So, now we've just got back to the room from > shopping for stuff to snack on and drink during our stay and have no > way to keep it cool. I called to ask about it. The lady > immediately gets snippy w/ me and says you didn't ask for it when > you checked in. I said I didn't know I was supposed to because in > my paperwork from the hospital it said that's what I was booked > for. She says there is one room left w/ those facilities. > gets the key and moves 2 trolly loads to the room and then I walk in > and it smells like smoke. I sat down and started crying because > here he just moved it all and the lady is making me feel like I'm > being difficult and I just want to not stress, get settled in and > uggghhh. I know I'll be ill from the smell of old settled in smoke > and the room was set up super "handicapable". It had tile instead > of carpet and was all wheelchair set up. It was as un"comfy" > feeling as could be. Horrible. My husband is standing there > waiting for me to calm down and make the command decision. I said, > yes, go back get the key back to the other room and move everything > back. We'll make due w/ all our food, drink, snacks on ice even if > we have to go to the store for some. We had bought a big insulated > bag and found another functioning ice maker. As we finally lay down > to sleep at 11:30 to get up at 5:30 am we hear an ambulance siren... > oh no, this is going to be a long night. Shockingly, that was the > only time we heard anything and we slept great.> > As I reported to Joyce the morning started w/ 7am blood tests and > I'm dehydrated to start because of the no eating or drinking after > midnight. I am a big baby w/ needles and blood, but I'm better than > I used to be. I just warn them I'm a baby and I don't look at the > needle. I've had blood drawn though multiple times for full > physicals, hospitalization, testing during both pregnancy's and in > August had the latest panel done for all the AI's, etc. I have > never felt this bad. After a bit I said I really feel warm. Then I > said I mean really warm, I'm in a full body sweat and I start > feeling faint and sick. I'm looking at like "serious, I'm not > kidding". He says can we get her some water and a wet towel and the > lady doing the draw is loudly telling me to keep my eyes open. > They're all rushing around and saying stay w/ me. She's asking me > if I want her to stop and then my vein collapses so they have to. I > of course have no idea where we are in the process. I didn't know > until hours later we were at 14 1/2 vials. After a little recovery > time, water and wet towels she got 3 more vials from my other arm. > Then off to Endoscopy, which shall henceforth live in my mind as the > torture chambers. I knew about the 24 hour PH probe, but somehow > missed the memo on the esophageal manometry test. I have to wait > around for a long time and then learn 2 students will be observing. > Finally we go in the room. He takes my history and that takes > forever, he's as slow as molasses and can't take any multiple > answers and I have to spell everything. I getting annoyed and just > trying to get thru it ask quickly as possible realizing this guys > limitations and working thru it. I'm giving the look and he > understands. He said after even the students were making fun of > him. After all this he gives me lidocaine to hold in the back of my > throat for a minute and then swallow. This is like fricken poison > and has no flavoring to disguise. Why is this. They can flavor > everything nowadays, why am I drinking something that tastes like > poison. I'm totally grossed out and want to puke from that alone. > Then he injects another gel to numb my nose and says now this is > gonna burn. Oh boy, this keeps getting better. He gets out the > probe and explains that he's gonna put it in my nose and then I have > to drink water thru a straw to swallow it down. What? So, now I > realize I'm like a circus freak doing sword swallowing tricks. I > get it all the way down and then I start dry heaving like nobody's > business. I'm violently heaving and he's trying to hold me still > and get the stuff set up. He's telling me to keep my eyes open, > open my mouth and breath thru my mouth. Then of course my O2 drops > low and he's cranking it up and telling me to breath deep. I am and > finally I get my breathing under control thru my nose and had to > summon all my strength and go to another place. I used everything > I've learned from the years of yoga, meditation, relaxation. I had > my eyes on one place to block out the tech, the students, the tube, > everything. I was focused yet, soooo not there. All the while I > have to still pay attention to his instructions. I have to swallow > 5 cc's of water from a syringe 10 times w/ the probe in 1 spot, then > he pulls some out and of course ends up having to push some back in > and out, every time. Then 10 more times, then 6 times, then 6 > times. I didn't count I heard him telling the students this at the > end. At the end of all this the probe is removed I'm furious at > this torture and my nose, throat and inner ear are killing me. He > tells me that the 24 hour probe is nothing in comparison to this. > However, to complicate things they don't have the probe available > yet so I'll have to come back in a couple hours to get it. So, this > now extends my fasting period and the 24 hours later for fasting the > next morning and messes up the schedule for that day and the next. > I went to the EKG and echo and thank goodness those were as pleasant > as could be. I go back for the probe and I'm thinking that I have > endured the worst and this will just be annoying in comparison to > the garden hose I've had jabbed down my throat. I have to wait > around for like a hour and during that time I have one of my > coughing attacks and the tech walked in and was freaking out. He's > asking is she okay, is this normal. said yes, just > crank her O2, get her kleenex and a cold rag. I finally get thru > that and now the probe. Guess what it is really not that much > smaller and it seems way less flexible and now we have to go thru > the numbing a second time and I'm already sore. I couldn't believe > how uncomfortable it was and I've just had a coughing attack and > those bring me to the edge of panic and any out of breath moments > bring me to the edge of panic and now I feel panicked about the idea > of this thing in my throat for 24 hours. OMG!!! I was crying and > telling I couldn't do it. I was so upset and so scared. He > said we can have them take it out right now and go home, you tell > me. But if we do you realize that's it. Just tell me what you want > to do. I had him take me to the coordinators area in the hospital > and I could barely think or talk, but I asked to see her and > proceeded to break down in tears again and I begged her to do any > other procedure or reschedule the next morning so I had nothing to > deal w/ besides this and could just go do nothing until the 24 hours > was over. I was remembering that Judy said they didn't even do this > test anymore and did the BRAVO Clip which was a camera they put down > in you and was passed. I asked about that, she looked at me as if I > was crazy. Like she'd never heard of it. I said I know a woman who > just got her transplant hear w/ you and she had it. Nope, this is > the test, this is what they do, this is what the doctor ordered. > She could cancel everything and I could try another time. I really > was 2 seconds from yanking this thing out of my throat. I had > take me back to the room. I fully expected that sometime in the > next 24 hours I would pull it out. Somehow, I was able to nap and > somehow make it thru I don't know how. I have now just taken > forever to tell this tale and I'm just thru the 1st part. My > daughter has been patiently waiting on me so I'll have to do part 2 > later. This really is the worst part though, some other things were > annoying, aggravating, some fine, some pleasant, some fantastic. > Anyway, thanks for all the prayers, well wishes and loving support. > Like I said the rest was all just there in comparison. I'll try to > be more brief w/ part 2. Off to appease my daughter.> > Kerry> IPF '01> S. IN>

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Oh Kerry... this stories that come from our personal experiences just seem unendurable! Damnit! I'm sorry for what you endured.

And yet more to come.

Ok. we will continue to pray for strength for you and yes, endurance! This too shall pass.

I send warm fuzzies to you in every form!

Mama-Sher, 69, IPF 3-06, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

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At first I was really cursing myself because I know this hasn't been

part of anyone's standard transplant eval. Back in August when I

had the docs retest me for AI diseases I had an upper GI to test for

GERD. I don't even have symptoms on a regular basis I just got

tested because I know it is so common for people w/ PF to have GERD

and again I was trying to go at this disease from all angles and

make sure I was doing everything I could. With this being part of

the eval I felt like I brought it on myself by having that test, but

they said it is now going to be part of the standard testing because

it can totally destroy the lungs and again they aren't going to give

you these new lungs if anything is going to mess it up. So, that's

that.

About being there for all the testing. I have to say my

husband is awesome and goes to all my appointments and he is so by

my side w/ all of this. He has made it very clear nothing will get

in the way of him being there. So, I gotta tell you as I was taking

the lidocaine he stepped out to use the bathroom. He headed back to

the room and they tried to stop him. They said you can't go in

there. He said oh, I'm going in there. He said they asked her if

she wanted me in there and she said yes. They said you really don't

want to see it and often we find it makes the patient panic more w/

others present. He said I'm going in there and I promise you she

will panic more if I'm not in there, in fact she won't allow him to

do the procedure if I don't get back in there. I didn't know any of

this until later of course. As I'm grossing out and shaking my head

about the poison he reappears. Also, in addition to the tech

teaching the students he called over to observe all the stuff

on the screen and everything so he really got to see it all. He

said the testing was actually very interesting, but of course it was

hard to see me going thru it and he gave me all the credit in the

world, he said he has no idea how I did it and can't imagine himself

having been able to endure it. I was so angry at the end that when

the tech asked if I wanted to see the results I angrily said no.

Later in the evening I said that guy said he's been doing it for 18

years... I said how could you do that to people, he's one sick

puppy. Last insult on injury, when he removed the tape from my nose

the next afternoon it ripped off a piece of skin at the edge of my

nostril so it's raw and painful. This afternoon I took my daughter

for a manicure and spa pedicure to treat us both. After that we had

dinner and my husband and I went out for our broadway show (we've

had season tickets for Louisville's broadway series since 1998 at

least). Besides the nails today I've done nothing since we got home

yesterday, but relax and try to recoup and recover. The show tonite

was Sweeney Todd. We left at intermission. Like I said we've been

going for years and have thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. Not all the

shows have left us in awe, but they've been enjoyable. We've never,

ever, ever left a show. We hated it and were so glad we felt the

same... we just were waiting for intermission. I'm sure having had

this week beforehand contributed... it just seemed like life was too

short to sit thru it. Anyway, checking in and thought I'd add these

comments. I'll post again tomorrow about the rest. Again, thanks

to all for the support and encouragement.

Kerry

IPF '01

S. IN

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Kerry,

I just read your first post. Gosh" What an experience. I understand how you feel. I know how that big thing down your throat is so awful and that stuff they ask you to drink....I gagged and carried on just like you. But the gel in my nose that melted.....I think that was the worst but it sounds like you didnt have any compassionate people. I am crying for you now as I read this. Remembering how it felt for me and knowing how awful it had to be for you. I havent read part 2 yet. But....the good thing...part 1 is over. You did it! You did what alot of people could not have endured. You are a strong person. You really are. I am praying for you. I want it to be better for you. Am going to wait till tomorrow to read part 2. One of the things I do now when I have to have those awful tests is to ask for some valium about ten min. before they start the tests. Calms me down some. Just an idea. Rest easy Kerry. I dont know you but I care about you and am so sorry you had to do this but am so glad the worst is over.

L

Kerry's eval. part 1

I honestly don't know what to say. Tell you I'm home and leave it at that. Tell you about the worst. Tell you about the best. Tell you... hmmm...Let's see. Got there safely, quickly and without any problems Tuesday evening. Reported in to Dad and checked in the hotel connected by skywalk to the hospital (paid by insurance as part of eval.). I had looked it up online and the reviews were it was fine and convenient and then others said it was the most horrific hotel stay of their life. It was very old, in no way nice or plush, but it was fine, clean enough and convenient. There was no wi-fi access so I couldn't use the computer, but we suspected that after the reviews. The room was supposed to have a fridge, microwave and kitchenette. It had none. We figure we can make due w/ ice but the ice maker was broke. So, now we've just got back to the room from shopping for stuff to snack on and drink during our stay and have no way to keep it cool. I called to ask about it. The lady immediately gets snippy w/ me and says you didn't ask for it when you checked in. I said I didn't know I was supposed to because in my paperwork from the hospital it said that's what I was booked for. She says there is one room left w/ those facilities. gets the key and moves 2 trolly loads to the room and then I walk in and it smells like smoke. I sat down and started crying because here he just moved it all and the lady is making me feel like I'm being difficult and I just want to not stress, get settled in and uggghhh. I know I'll be ill from the smell of old settled in smoke and the room was set up super "handicapable". It had tile instead of carpet and was all wheelchair set up. It was as un"comfy" feeling as could be. Horrible. My husband is standing there waiting for me to calm down and make the command decision. I said, yes, go back get the key back to the other room and move everything back. We'll make due w/ all our food, drink, snacks on ice even if we have to go to the store for some. We had bought a big insulated bag and found another functioning ice maker. As we finally lay down to sleep at 11:30 to get up at 5:30 am we hear an ambulance siren... oh no, this is going to be a long night. Shockingly, that was the only time we heard anything and we slept great.As I reported to Joyce the morning started w/ 7am blood tests and I'm dehydrated to start because of the no eating or drinking after midnight. I am a big baby w/ needles and blood, but I'm better than I used to be. I just warn them I'm a baby and I don't look at the needle. I've had blood drawn though multiple times for full physicals, hospitalization, testing during both pregnancy's and in August had the latest panel done for all the AI's, etc. I have never felt this bad. After a bit I said I really feel warm. Then I said I mean really warm, I'm in a full body sweat and I start feeling faint and sick. I'm looking at like "serious, I'm not kidding". He says can we get her some water and a wet towel and the lady doing the draw is loudly telling me to keep my eyes open. They're all rushing around and saying stay w/ me. She's asking me if I want her to stop and then my vein collapses so they have to. I of course have no idea where we are in the process. I didn't know until hours later we were at 14 1/2 vials. After a little recovery time, water and wet towels she got 3 more vials from my other arm. Then off to Endoscopy, which shall henceforth live in my mind as the torture chambers. I knew about the 24 hour PH probe, but somehow missed the memo on the esophageal manometry test. I have to wait around for a long time and then learn 2 students will be observing. Finally we go in the room. He takes my history and that takes forever, he's as slow as molasses and can't take any multiple answers and I have to spell everything. I getting annoyed and just trying to get thru it ask quickly as possible realizing this guys limitations and working thru it. I'm giving the look and he understands. He said after even the students were making fun of him. After all this he gives me lidocaine to hold in the back of my throat for a minute and then swallow. This is like fricken poison and has no flavoring to disguise. Why is this. They can flavor everything nowadays, why am I drinking something that tastes like poison. I'm totally grossed out and want to puke from that alone. Then he injects another gel to numb my nose and says now this is gonna burn. Oh boy, this keeps getting better. He gets out the probe and explains that he's gonna put it in my nose and then I have to drink water thru a straw to swallow it down. What? So, now I realize I'm like a circus freak doing sword swallowing tricks. I get it all the way down and then I start dry heaving like nobody's business. I'm violently heaving and he's trying to hold me still and get the stuff set up. He's telling me to keep my eyes open, open my mouth and breath thru my mouth. Then of course my O2 drops low and he's cranking it up and telling me to breath deep. I am and finally I get my breathing under control thru my nose and had to summon all my strength and go to another place. I used everything I've learned from the years of yoga, meditation, relaxation. I had my eyes on one place to block out the tech, the students, the tube, everything. I was focused yet, soooo not there. All the while I have to still pay attention to his instructions. I have to swallow 5 cc's of water from a syringe 10 times w/ the probe in 1 spot, then he pulls some out and of course ends up having to push some back in and out, every time. Then 10 more times, then 6 times, then 6 times. I didn't count I heard him telling the students this at the end. At the end of all this the probe is removed I'm furious at this torture and my nose, throat and inner ear are killing me. He tells me that the 24 hour probe is nothing in comparison to this. However, to complicate things they don't have the probe available yet so I'll have to come back in a couple hours to get it. So, this now extends my fasting period and the 24 hours later for fasting the next morning and messes up the schedule for that day and the next. I went to the EKG and echo and thank goodness those were as pleasant as could be. I go back for the probe and I'm thinking that I have endured the worst and this will just be annoying in comparison to the garden hose I've had jabbed down my throat. I have to wait around for like a hour and during that time I have one of my coughing attacks and the tech walked in and was freaking out. He's asking is she okay, is this normal. said yes, just crank her O2, get her kleenex and a cold rag. I finally get thru that and now the probe. Guess what it is really not that much smaller and it seems way less flexible and now we have to go thru the numbing a second time and I'm already sore. I couldn't believe how uncomfortable it was and I've just had a coughing attack and those bring me to the edge of panic and any out of breath moments bring me to the edge of panic and now I feel panicked about the idea of this thing in my throat for 24 hours. OMG!!! I was crying and telling I couldn't do it. I was so upset and so scared. He said we can have them take it out right now and go home, you tell me. But if we do you realize that's it. Just tell me what you want to do. I had him take me to the coordinators area in the hospital and I could barely think or talk, but I asked to see her and proceeded to break down in tears again and I begged her to do any other procedure or reschedule the next morning so I had nothing to deal w/ besides this and could just go do nothing until the 24 hours was over. I was remembering that Judy said they didn't even do this test anymore and did the BRAVO Clip which was a camera they put down in you and was passed. I asked about that, she looked at me as if I was crazy. Like she'd never heard of it. I said I know a woman who just got her transplant hear w/ you and she had it. Nope, this is the test, this is what they do, this is what the doctor ordered. She could cancel everything and I could try another time. I really was 2 seconds from yanking this thing out of my throat. I had take me back to the room. I fully expected that sometime in the next 24 hours I would pull it out. Somehow, I was able to nap and somehow make it thru I don't know how. I have now just taken forever to tell this tale and I'm just thru the 1st part. My daughter has been patiently waiting on me so I'll have to do part 2 later. This really is the worst part though, some other things were annoying, aggravating, some fine, some pleasant, some fantastic. Anyway, thanks for all the prayers, well wishes and loving support. Like I said the rest was all just there in comparison. I'll try to be more brief w/ part 2. Off to appease my daughter.KerryIPF '01S. IN

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No part of anything ever seems like it can be as simple as it should

be. They can't even tape and remove tape right.

And the bit about stepping out or not back in room. Like there is

something your spouse hasn't seen? It's like they don't want a

witness.

>

> At first I was really cursing myself because I know this hasn't

been

> part of anyone's standard transplant eval. Back in August when I

> had the docs retest me for AI diseases I had an upper GI to test

for

> GERD. I don't even have symptoms on a regular basis I just got

> tested because I know it is so common for people w/ PF to have GERD

> and again I was trying to go at this disease from all angles and

> make sure I was doing everything I could. With this being part of

> the eval I felt like I brought it on myself by having that test,

but

> they said it is now going to be part of the standard testing

because

> it can totally destroy the lungs and again they aren't going to

give

> you these new lungs if anything is going to mess it up. So, that's

> that.

>

> About being there for all the testing. I have to say my

> husband is awesome and goes to all my appointments and he is so by

> my side w/ all of this. He has made it very clear nothing will get

> in the way of him being there. So, I gotta tell you as I was

taking

> the lidocaine he stepped out to use the bathroom. He headed back

to

> the room and they tried to stop him. They said you can't go in

> there. He said oh, I'm going in there. He said they asked her if

> she wanted me in there and she said yes. They said you really

don't

> want to see it and often we find it makes the patient panic more w/

> others present. He said I'm going in there and I promise you she

> will panic more if I'm not in there, in fact she won't allow him to

> do the procedure if I don't get back in there. I didn't know any

of

> this until later of course. As I'm grossing out and shaking my

head

> about the poison he reappears. Also, in addition to the tech

> teaching the students he called over to observe all the stuff

> on the screen and everything so he really got to see it all. He

> said the testing was actually very interesting, but of course it

was

> hard to see me going thru it and he gave me all the credit in the

> world, he said he has no idea how I did it and can't imagine

himself

> having been able to endure it. I was so angry at the end that when

> the tech asked if I wanted to see the results I angrily said no.

> Later in the evening I said that guy said he's been doing it for 18

> years... I said how could you do that to people, he's one sick

> puppy. Last insult on injury, when he removed the tape from my

nose

> the next afternoon it ripped off a piece of skin at the edge of my

> nostril so it's raw and painful. This afternoon I took my daughter

> for a manicure and spa pedicure to treat us both. After that we

had

> dinner and my husband and I went out for our broadway show (we've

> had season tickets for Louisville's broadway series since 1998 at

> least). Besides the nails today I've done nothing since we got

home

> yesterday, but relax and try to recoup and recover. The show

tonite

> was Sweeney Todd. We left at intermission. Like I said we've been

> going for years and have thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. Not all the

> shows have left us in awe, but they've been enjoyable. We've

never,

> ever, ever left a show. We hated it and were so glad we felt the

> same... we just were waiting for intermission. I'm sure having had

> this week beforehand contributed... it just seemed like life was

too

> short to sit thru it. Anyway, checking in and thought I'd add

these

> comments. I'll post again tomorrow about the rest. Again, thanks

> to all for the support and encouragement.

>

> Kerry

> IPF '01

> S. IN

>

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Kerry... this post is a bit easier to read. Thanks for keeping us updated on you.

I know nothing about Sweeney Todd but maybe it's just as well.

I'm so glad your hubby sticks so close to you. There surely is strength in his presence.

Hope your nose is healing well.

Have a good day today.

Mama-Sher, 69, IPF 3-06, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

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Kerry,

How awesome that your hubby is bravely there with you and for you. Eddie does the same for me. The first time I had an ABG he had to leave work to come over to the hospital while I had it. Now i can handle it by myself with the tech. While I was in a coma, Eddie kept telling everyone, docs included, that I was still there, HE KNEW! I am so glad you have a SUPER CAREGIVER!

Toodles!

Jane UIP/IPF 12/1998 Dalton, Georgia aka pianolady_musicgirl>> At first I was really cursing myself because I know this hasn't been > part of anyone's standard transplant eval. Back in August when I > had the docs retest me for AI diseases I had an upper GI to test for > GERD. I don't even have symptoms on a regular basis I just got > tested because I know it is so common for people w/ PF to have GERD > and again I was trying to go at this disease from all angles and > make sure I was doing everything I could. With this being part of > the eval I felt like I brought it on myself by having that test, but > they said it is now going to be part of the standard testing because > it can totally destroy the lungs and again they aren't going to give > you these new lungs if anything is going to mess it up. So, that's > that. > > About being there for all the testing. I have to say my > husband is awesome and goes to all my appointments and he is so by > my side w/ all of this. He has made it very clear nothing will get > in the way of him being there. So, I gotta tell you as I was taking > the lidocaine he stepped out to use the bathroom. He headed back to > the room and they tried to stop him. They said you can't go in > there. He said oh, I'm going in there. He said they asked her if > she wanted me in there and she said yes. They said you really don't > want to see it and often we find it makes the patient panic more w/ > others present. He said I'm going in there and I promise you she > will panic more if I'm not in there, in fact she won't allow him to > do the procedure if I don't get back in there. I didn't know any of > this until later of course. As I'm grossing out and shaking my head > about the poison he reappears. Also, in addition to the tech > teaching the students he called over to observe all the stuff > on the screen and everything so he really got to see it all. He > said the testing was actually very interesting, but of course it was > hard to see me going thru it and he gave me all the credit in the > world, he said he has no idea how I did it and can't imagine himself > having been able to endure it. I was so angry at the end that when > the tech asked if I wanted to see the results I angrily said no. > Later in the evening I said that guy said he's been doing it for 18 > years... I said how could you do that to people, he's one sick > puppy. Last insult on injury, when he removed the tape from my nose > the next afternoon it ripped off a piece of skin at the edge of my > nostril so it's raw and painful. This afternoon I took my daughter > for a manicure and spa pedicure to treat us both. After that we had > dinner and my husband and I went out for our broadway show (we've > had season tickets for Louisville's broadway series since 1998 at > least). Besides the nails today I've done nothing since we got home > yesterday, but relax and try to recoup and recover. The show tonite > was Sweeney Todd. We left at intermission. Like I said we've been > going for years and have thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. Not all the > shows have left us in awe, but they've been enjoyable. We've never, > ever, ever left a show. We hated it and were so glad we felt the > same... we just were waiting for intermission. I'm sure having had > this week beforehand contributed... it just seemed like life was too > short to sit thru it. Anyway, checking in and thought I'd add these > comments. I'll post again tomorrow about the rest. Again, thanks > to all for the support and encouragement.> > Kerry> IPF '01> S. IN>

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I remembered one more thing last night after I logged off. I meant

to clarify that the hotel rooms were designated smoke free but you

know somebody still did it obviously. I can smell that someone

smoked in a room or in their clothes, I can tell if I've been around

smoke because my hair just sucks it up. I can smell someone smoking

in another car when I'm out driving. I think I'm part hound dog.

Kerry

> >

> > I honestly don't know what to say. Tell you I'm home and leave

it

> > at that. Tell you about the worst. Tell you about the best.

Tell

> > you... hmmm...

> >

> > Let's see. Got there safely, quickly and without any problems

> > Tuesday evening. Reported in to Dad and checked in the hotel

> > connected by skywalk to the hospital (paid by insurance as part

of

> > eval.). I had looked it up online and the reviews were it was

fine

> > and convenient and then others said it was the most horrific

hotel

> > stay of their life. It was very old, in no way nice or plush,

but

> > it was fine, clean enough and convenient. There was no wi-fi

> access

> > so I couldn't use the computer, but we suspected that after the

> > reviews. The room was supposed to have a fridge, microwave and

> > kitchenette. It had none. We figure we can make due w/ ice but

> the

> > ice maker was broke. So, now we've just got back to the room

from

> > shopping for stuff to snack on and drink during our stay and

have

> no

> > way to keep it cool. I called to ask about it. The lady

> > immediately gets snippy w/ me and says you didn't ask for it

when

> > you checked in. I said I didn't know I was supposed to because

in

> > my paperwork from the hospital it said that's what I was booked

> > for. She says there is one room left w/ those facilities.

> > gets the key and moves 2 trolly loads to the room and then I

walk

> in

> > and it smells like smoke. I sat down and started crying because

> > here he just moved it all and the lady is making me feel like

I'm

> > being difficult and I just want to not stress, get settled in

and

> > uggghhh. I know I'll be ill from the smell of old settled in

smoke

> > and the room was set up super " handicapable " . It had tile

instead

> > of carpet and was all wheelchair set up. It was as un " comfy "

> > feeling as could be. Horrible. My husband is standing there

> > waiting for me to calm down and make the command decision. I

said,

> > yes, go back get the key back to the other room and move

everything

> > back. We'll make due w/ all our food, drink, snacks on ice even

if

> > we have to go to the store for some. We had bought a big

insulated

> > bag and found another functioning ice maker. As we finally lay

> down

> > to sleep at 11:30 to get up at 5:30 am we hear an ambulance

> siren...

> > oh no, this is going to be a long night. Shockingly, that was

the

> > only time we heard anything and we slept great.

> >

> > As I reported to Joyce the morning started w/ 7am blood tests

and

> > I'm dehydrated to start because of the no eating or drinking

after

> > midnight. I am a big baby w/ needles and blood, but I'm better

> than

> > I used to be. I just warn them I'm a baby and I don't look at

the

> > needle. I've had blood drawn though multiple times for full

> > physicals, hospitalization, testing during both pregnancy's and

in

> > August had the latest panel done for all the AI's, etc. I have

> > never felt this bad. After a bit I said I really feel warm.

Then

> I

> > said I mean really warm, I'm in a full body sweat and I start

> > feeling faint and sick. I'm looking at like " serious, I'm

> not

> > kidding " . He says can we get her some water and a wet towel and

> the

> > lady doing the draw is loudly telling me to keep my eyes open.

> > They're all rushing around and saying stay w/ me. She's asking

me

> > if I want her to stop and then my vein collapses so they have

to.

> I

> > of course have no idea where we are in the process. I didn't

know

> > until hours later we were at 14 1/2 vials. After a little

recovery

> > time, water and wet towels she got 3 more vials from my other

arm.

> > Then off to Endoscopy, which shall henceforth live in my mind as

> the

> > torture chambers. I knew about the 24 hour PH probe, but

somehow

> > missed the memo on the esophageal manometry test. I have to

wait

> > around for a long time and then learn 2 students will be

> observing.

> > Finally we go in the room. He takes my history and that takes

> > forever, he's as slow as molasses and can't take any multiple

> > answers and I have to spell everything. I getting annoyed and

just

> > trying to get thru it ask quickly as possible realizing this

guys

> > limitations and working thru it. I'm giving the look and

he

> > understands. He said after even the students were making fun of

> > him. After all this he gives me lidocaine to hold in the back

of

> my

> > throat for a minute and then swallow. This is like fricken

poison

> > and has no flavoring to disguise. Why is this. They can flavor

> > everything nowadays, why am I drinking something that tastes

like

> > poison. I'm totally grossed out and want to puke from that

alone.

> > Then he injects another gel to numb my nose and says now this is

> > gonna burn. Oh boy, this keeps getting better. He gets out the

> > probe and explains that he's gonna put it in my nose and then I

> have

> > to drink water thru a straw to swallow it down. What? So, now

I

> > realize I'm like a circus freak doing sword swallowing tricks.

I

> > get it all the way down and then I start dry heaving like

nobody's

> > business. I'm violently heaving and he's trying to hold me

still

> > and get the stuff set up. He's telling me to keep my eyes open,

> > open my mouth and breath thru my mouth. Then of course my O2

drops

> > low and he's cranking it up and telling me to breath deep. I am

> and

> > finally I get my breathing under control thru my nose and had to

> > summon all my strength and go to another place. I used

everything

> > I've learned from the years of yoga, meditation, relaxation. I

had

> > my eyes on one place to block out the tech, the students, the

tube,

> > everything. I was focused yet, soooo not there. All the while

I

> > have to still pay attention to his instructions. I have to

swallow

> > 5 cc's of water from a syringe 10 times w/ the probe in 1 spot,

> then

> > he pulls some out and of course ends up having to push some back

in

> > and out, every time. Then 10 more times, then 6 times, then 6

> > times. I didn't count I heard him telling the students this at

the

> > end. At the end of all this the probe is removed I'm furious at

> > this torture and my nose, throat and inner ear are killing me.

He

> > tells me that the 24 hour probe is nothing in comparison to

this.

> > However, to complicate things they don't have the probe

available

> > yet so I'll have to come back in a couple hours to get it. So,

> this

> > now extends my fasting period and the 24 hours later for fasting

> the

> > next morning and messes up the schedule for that day and the

next.

> > I went to the EKG and echo and thank goodness those were as

> pleasant

> > as could be. I go back for the probe and I'm thinking that I

have

> > endured the worst and this will just be annoying in comparison

to

> > the garden hose I've had jabbed down my throat. I have to wait

> > around for like a hour and during that time I have one of my

> > coughing attacks and the tech walked in and was freaking out.

He's

> > asking is she okay, is this normal. said yes, just

> > crank her O2, get her kleenex and a cold rag. I finally get

thru

> > that and now the probe. Guess what it is really not that much

> > smaller and it seems way less flexible and now we have to go

thru

> > the numbing a second time and I'm already sore. I couldn't

believe

> > how uncomfortable it was and I've just had a coughing attack and

> > those bring me to the edge of panic and any out of breath

moments

> > bring me to the edge of panic and now I feel panicked about the

> idea

> > of this thing in my throat for 24 hours. OMG!!! I was crying

and

> > telling I couldn't do it. I was so upset and so scared.

He

> > said we can have them take it out right now and go home, you

tell

> > me. But if we do you realize that's it. Just tell me what you

> want

> > to do. I had him take me to the coordinators area in the

hospital

> > and I could barely think or talk, but I asked to see her and

> > proceeded to break down in tears again and I begged her to do

any

> > other procedure or reschedule the next morning so I had nothing

to

> > deal w/ besides this and could just go do nothing until the 24

> hours

> > was over. I was remembering that Judy said they didn't even do

> this

> > test anymore and did the BRAVO Clip which was a camera they put

> down

> > in you and was passed. I asked about that, she looked at me as

if

> I

> > was crazy. Like she'd never heard of it. I said I know a woman

> who

> > just got her transplant hear w/ you and she had it. Nope, this

is

> > the test, this is what they do, this is what the doctor

ordered.

> > She could cancel everything and I could try another time. I

really

> > was 2 seconds from yanking this thing out of my throat. I had

>

> > take me back to the room. I fully expected that sometime in the

> > next 24 hours I would pull it out. Somehow, I was able to nap

and

> > somehow make it thru I don't know how. I have now just taken

> > forever to tell this tale and I'm just thru the 1st part. My

> > daughter has been patiently waiting on me so I'll have to do

part 2

> > later. This really is the worst part though, some other things

> were

> > annoying, aggravating, some fine, some pleasant, some

fantastic.

> > Anyway, thanks for all the prayers, well wishes and loving

> support.

> > Like I said the rest was all just there in comparison. I'll try

to

> > be more brief w/ part 2. Off to appease my daughter.

> >

> > Kerry

> > IPF '01

> > S. IN

> >

>

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