Re: speaking of gas

[Guest guest]

Ummm--I know that we've discussed this ad nauseum before, but would you all

mind repeating the " cures " (if I might use this potentially poor choice of

words!) for the odorous problems associated with the gas attacks? I've tried

the gas-x, phazyme otc remedies with no results. Did some of you suggest

charcoal? And if yes, how much, where to get it, etc? I'd appreciate a

refresher course. Thanks.

--El

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/20/00 11:09:51 AM Pacific Standard Time,

elfeline@... writes:

<< I'd appreciate a

refresher course. Thanks.

--El >>

Nice choice of words! Try Ozium spray - it is the automotive section at

Target. Gas-X also works to prevent and help gas pains. There are also good

medical sprays that the hospitals use for colostomy patients. Carrascent is

by Carrington Labs and is used in hospitals. Here is their website: <A

HREF= " http://www.aloevera.com/ " >Click here: Welcome to Mom's Aloe Store</A> .

I also carry small air fresheners from Bath and Body Works.

Carbs produce a lot of gas for me. Also beans and a lot greens. That's why I

stick to proteins. Sometimes its just the luck of the draw as to what causes

gas and bad smelling bowel movements. High fat too.

Hope all this helps.

BobA

[Guest guest]

Antibiotics? Which ones would those be?

[Guest guest]

Simethicone breaks gas up, but doesn't prevent it. Drat, huh? But there

are about 4 antibiotics that will cut the smell and some help cut the bloat.

I need to take mine continuously, but some take a 14 or 21 day course, then

can go free for several months. You might inquire. Simethicone is a chaser

for chili, rather than a preventative.

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speaking of gas

>

>

> Since some of you brought up gas and what is causing it, I wanted to tell

you about my experience with it. I was having really bad gas (as in it would

clear out a room) and I was trying to figure out what was causing it. I

thought it was carbs, and laid of those etc. I am now convinced there is no

one certain food that causes it. I have weeks where I have no bad gas, and

then the next week I can eat the exact same foods and can hardly stand

myself. If it is not food, could it be the levels of bacteria in my stomach

that are changing? W. told me to eat yogurt to get some good bacteria,

and I can not tell if that affects it or not. This is one side effect I can

live with, but can be a real inconvenience if not around those people that

understand. My doc said to take simiticone?sp? 80mg. 3 times a day for it. I

helps a little.. but for the most part, I just live with it... a lot easier

to live with than 220 units of insulin a day.... Jan C. 3-11-98 RNY

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Flagyl is a good antibiotic to help clean out the colon bacteria and help

with the gas. Just remember to resupply the gut with the proper bacteria

afterwards with some active cultured yogurt.

Carolyn

Re: speaking of gas

>

>

>Simethicone breaks gas up, but doesn't prevent it. Drat, huh? But there

>are about 4 antibiotics that will cut the smell and some help cut the

bloat.

>I need to take mine continuously, but some take a 14 or 21 day course, then

>can go free for several months. You might inquire. Simethicone is a chaser

>for chili, rather than a preventative.

>

>*** Please reply to me at: vitalady@... ***

>

>Thanks,

>

>

>www.vitalady.com

>

>

>

>

> speaking of gas

>

>

>>

>>

>> Since some of you brought up gas and what is causing it, I wanted to tell

>you about my experience with it. I was having really bad gas (as in it

would

>clear out a room) and I was trying to figure out what was causing it. I

>thought it was carbs, and laid of those etc. I am now convinced there is no

>one certain food that causes it. I have weeks where I have no bad gas, and

>then the next week I can eat the exact same foods and can hardly stand

>myself. If it is not food, could it be the levels of bacteria in my stomach

>that are changing? W. told me to eat yogurt to get some good

bacteria,

>and I can not tell if that affects it or not. This is one side effect I can

>live with, but can be a real inconvenience if not around those people that

>understand. My doc said to take simiticone?sp? 80mg. 3 times a day for it.

I

>helps a little.. but for the most part, I just live with it... a lot easier

>to live with than 220 units of insulin a day.... Jan C. 3-11-98 RNY

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Some in our support group have had good luck with Cipro as the antibiotic.

BobA

[Guest guest]

Hmm, activated charcoal. I know where I'd get it. Hint, hint!

It's BEFORE you eat that chili, though. Activated charcoal before,

simethicone after. And we also use beano on the first bite. I prefer

liquid, some prefer the chewables.

BUT for long term results, there are 4 or 5 antibiotics that will help cut

the bacterial growth in the common channel. They're prescribed and some

folks take a 14-21 day course of 'em and are free for 3 or 4 months. Some of

us get 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. And some of us just keep taking 'em.

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Re: speaking of gas

> From: elfeline@...

>

> Ummm--I know that we've discussed this ad nauseum before, but would you

all

> mind repeating the " cures " (if I might use this potentially poor choice of

> words!) for the odorous problems associated with the gas attacks? I've

tried

> the gas-x, phazyme otc remedies with no results. Did some of you suggest

> charcoal? And if yes, how much, where to get it, etc? I'd appreciate a

> refresher course. Thanks.

> --El

>

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[Guest guest]

And that's not the only place that carries Carrascent, or other products

designed specifically for " ostomy " pts, for example.

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Re: speaking of gas

> From: raltman813@...

>

> In a message dated 2/20/00 11:09:51 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> elfeline@... writes:

>

> << I'd appreciate a

> refresher course. Thanks.

> --El >>

> Nice choice of words! Try Ozium spray - it is the automotive section at

> Target. Gas-X also works to prevent and help gas pains. There are also

good

> medical sprays that the hospitals use for colostomy patients. Carrascent

is

> by Carrington Labs and is used in hospitals. Here is their website: <A

> HREF= " http://www.aloevera.com/ " >Click here: Welcome to Mom's Aloe

Store</A> .

> I also carry small air fresheners from Bath and Body Works.

>

> Carbs produce a lot of gas for me. Also beans and a lot greens. That's why

I

> stick to proteins. Sometimes its just the luck of the draw as to what

causes

> gas and bad smelling bowel movements. High fat too.

>

> Hope all this helps.

>

> BobA

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Antibiotics?

flagyl

doxecycline

tetracycline (are those the same?)

cipro

Those are the ones I've heard about.

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Re: speaking of gas

> From: elfeline@...

>

> Antibiotics? Which ones would those be?

>

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[Guest guest]

From my latest organic chemistry lab:

What stinks? Amines and sulfates. Amines are nitrogen-hydrogens compounds,

for example: urea, ammonia, etc. There are VERY few amines that don't have a

noxious odor. Sulfates are just about anything with sulfur, and when it

comes to stuff we eat, proteins are usually those things that contribute the

most sulfur. Its the nature of proteins, actually. Sulfur is the atom that

holds most proteins together. When bacteria in the intestines breaks down

proteins, those bonds are broken, and the sulfur is set " free. " If you've

ever smelled sulfur dioxide or rotten eggs, that's what you smell. There's

no getting away from the smells. They're going to happen. Simethicone only

elminates gas produced in the stomach. After that, there's little that can

be done to squelch it. Beano works sometimes, but its got limited action.

I hate to say it, but I've done my share of " clearing the room. " Luckily,

this is usually a problem around bedtime (for me). Only me and my dog

suffer. My advice? Live with it as best you can, don't put off going to the

bathroom (don't hold it), and exercise. It gets the stuff going through your

system a little faster, and helps to prevent constipation. Water will help

that, too.

a O.