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,

Thank you so much for the prayers. He seems to be doing ok. He's

abit grumpy, but I know that's due to his heart attack and not being

abole to work right now. Once he has his stress test and knows

approximately when he can return to work, he should be better. Am

staying in AZ as long as I can with him. His daughter is in college

and not living at home and only has his 16 year old son living with

him. And he is a bit nervous. My mom came and got my kids so they

could return to school and my job was very understanding and has

given me as much time as I need.

Thanks again.

Hugs,

pam

> Pam, I am so sorry to hear of the heart attack! Thank God he is

OK! I will keep you all in my prayers!

>

> Hart

> Wife to Jon, Love of My Life

> Mom to 4 -Ari (16)

> a (7)

> (4)

> and (My TR Baby) born 6/20/02

> Glory to God and Many Thanks to Dr. Levin!

> http://www.geocities.com/thehartclantx/Thehartclantx.html

>

>

> Sorry Haven't Been Around Lately

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

> I'm so sorry I haven't been around but went to AZ for

Thanksgiving

> and my had a mild heart attack the Wed evening before. I

> leaned of this when I landed at Sky Harbor when my soon to be

step

> daughter was there to pick me up. Turned out he he had a 70%

> blockage and had to have a stint done the Friday after. He got

to

> come home a week ago yesterday. I've been here in Phoenix

since. He

> goes for a stress test this afternoon. Thank God he's going to

be

> fine, there was minimal damage done to the heart muscle. With

some

> diet modifications and slowing down just a bit he will make a

full

> recovery. Doctor says he is otherwise very healthy. We know he

was

> lucky and this was a wake up call for him. Stubborn and if

> often used in the same sentence. He unforunately is a workaholic

and

> slowing down is not something he will do easily. Yes, ladies

he's

> been driving me crazy since he's been off work. Have threatened

to

> hogtie him to the furniture. LOL!!!

> I do apologize for not being able to get to the computer sooner.

I

> will be picking up Christmas cards in a day or two and get them

out.

> Please be patient. It's been quite frantic here.

> We are still planning on going through with the tubal reversal.

I've

> told him since we're planning on a baby he needs to take care of

> himself and be around to help raise our precious future miracle.

> Guess, I've rambled on long enough.

> Now, I will go read as many messages as possible to catch up.

> Your New Friend,

> Pam

>

>

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Yes Donna, she survived to continue to terrorize me. I think she

thinks that's her purpose in life. I've told her she's lucky she's

lived this long. There were days I seriously had my doubts. But,

she is my oldest and I've learned a lot from her as well. She's a

great kid really.

Will admit, it's probably the most scared I've ever been. Couldn't

imagine loosing one of my children. God has blessed me with my and

my future step children. And I want more. God willing.

Hugs,

pam

> I went through the same thing with my now 14 year old, when she was

8 she had

> her tonsils removed and 8 days later she almost bled to death and

was rushed

> back into surgery,it is scarey but we always make it through! Thank

God!

>

> Huggs, Donna C

>

>

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Pam, You know why they do things to scare the Crap out of us don't you?? Just to

see if we are paying attention........

Re: Pam

Yes Donna, she survived to continue to terrorize me. I think she

thinks that's her purpose in life. I've told her she's lucky she's

lived this long. There were days I seriously had my doubts. But,

she is my oldest and I've learned a lot from her as well. She's a

great kid really.

Will admit, it's probably the most scared I've ever been. Couldn't

imagine loosing one of my children. God has blessed me with my and

my future step children. And I want more. God willing.

Hugs,

pam

> I went through the same thing with my now 14 year old, when she was

8 she had

> her tonsils removed and 8 days later she almost bled to death and

was rushed

> back into surgery,it is scarey but we always make it through! Thank

God!

>

> Huggs, Donna C

>

>

>

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You have a point and I never thought about it that way.

Not only are you ladies geniuses but psychologists too... This is

great.

Hugs,

Pam

> > I went through the same thing with my now 14 year old, when she

was

> 8 she had

> > her tonsils removed and 8 days later she almost bled to death

and

> was rushed

> > back into surgery,it is scarey but we always make it through!

Thank

> God!

> >

> > Huggs, Donna C

> >

> >

> >

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Just lookin at the thread ( my emails don't come in order LOL so i get lost )

what is it with tonsils. My youngest had his removed almost 2 years ago and

altho I wasn't there i was talkin to them every other day. He had the same

problem they kept spontaneously bleeding for almost a month afterwards. Not

being there I didn't get to talk to the doctor so not sure why and didnt get to

throw any suggestions. But I know this child lives to scare me! Hes so tiny

still and altho was the healthiest baby has had the most health problems since.

Re: Pam

Yes Donna, she survived to continue to terrorize me. I think she

thinks that's her purpose in life. I've told her she's lucky she's

lived this long. There were days I seriously had my doubts. But,

she is my oldest and I've learned a lot from her as well. She's a

great kid really.

Will admit, it's probably the most scared I've ever been. Couldn't

imagine loosing one of my children. God has blessed me with my and

my future step children. And I want more. God willing.

Hugs,

pam

> I went through the same thing with my now 14 year old, when she was

8 she had

> her tonsils removed and 8 days later she almost bled to death and

was rushed

> back into surgery,it is scarey but we always make it through! Thank

God!

>

> Huggs, Donna C

>

>

>

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The doc that did Kim's tonsils said there is a 1 in 100 chance of

hemmoraging after tonsilectomy. Apparently, Kim's left tonsil pole

split and caused the hemmorage, she lost 2 pints of blood and was

rushed into emergency surgery to stop the bleeding. She was 16 at

the time and that made it worse on her. The older you are the worse

it is on you. She was a sick puppy for a while and scared to death

to eat for a while. She lost 29 pounds before she gained any

confidence to eat once again.

Her best friend just had his out last month and was back in the

hospital for severe dehydration within 5 days. He was 18.

Anyone mentions getting their tonsils out around her and she will

look at them in a panick and say " PLease Don't " . I can't say that I

blame the child.

Now, she is perfectly healthy and doing great. Just something she

won't ever forget.

pam

> > I went through the same thing with my now 14 year old, when

she was

> 8 she had

> > her tonsils removed and 8 days later she almost bled to death

and

> was rushed

> > back into surgery,it is scarey but we always make it through!

Thank

> God!

> >

> > Huggs, Donna C

> >

> >

> >

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The doc that did Kim's tonsils said there is a 1 in 100 chance of

hemmoraging after tonsilectomy. Apparently, Kim's left tonsil pole

split and caused the hemmorage, she lost 2 pints of blood and was

rushed into emergency surgery to stop the bleeding. She was 16 at

the time and that made it worse on her. The older you are the worse

it is on you. She was a sick puppy for a while and scared to death

to eat for a while. She lost 29 pounds before she gained any

confidence to eat once again.

Her best friend just had his out last month and was back in the

hospital for severe dehydration within 5 days. He was 18.

Anyone mentions getting their tonsils out around her and she will

look at them in a panick and say " PLease Don't " . I can't say that I

blame the child.

Now, she is perfectly healthy and doing great. Just something she

won't ever forget.

pam

> > I went through the same thing with my now 14 year old, when

she was

> 8 she had

> > her tonsils removed and 8 days later she almost bled to death

and

> was rushed

> > back into surgery,it is scarey but we always make it through!

Thank

> God!

> >

> > Huggs, Donna C

> >

> >

> >

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YIKES!!!! The dreaded caffine withdrawal.

I know what you mean...

Hugs,

pam

> I know what you mean, if I do not have any I get a massive headache

from

> withdrawl!!!!!!!

>

> Huggs, Donna C

>

>

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Donna,

You are gonna laugh your tail off when I tell you this. My soon to

be DH and I were chasing each other around the bedroom yesterday

afternoon and he lundged at me to try and catch me and when I jumped

ot avoid being caught, I kicked the dresser corner with my left

foot. We heard something crack and in about 20 minutes time my foot

was black and blue, swollen and hurting quite a bit. So...off to the

ER we went. Verdict....Broken foot. Now in a cast and on crutches.

Now that you guys are all laughing, and I'm sufficently embarrassed,

but hey....Now, I'm getting waited on hand and foot and am getting

dinner cooked for me by soon to be DH. Soon to be step DS & DD are

teasing us unmercifully about it.

Live and learn...Been staying off it as much as possible. When not

sleeping due to Vicodin for pain, I've been on the couch most of the

day with foot propped up. My soon to be DD did go to the store and

buy me some yarn so I could start crocheting.

I hobble over here to the computer to check postings.

Have a great evening, ladies.

Hugs to all,

pam

> Pam, Sis how in the world did you break your foot??????

>

> Huggs, Donna C

>

>

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Well, I am staying in AZ a week longer due to starting cardiac

rehab on Monday. But I have to return to KY the end of the week, to

attend a basketball banquet for my DD and get them packed and ready

to return here on the 26th.

Busy, busy, busy...

Hugs,

pam

> Pam,

> Ouch. Sorry to hear about the foot. Not a good thing to happen

in

> the middle of the winter. Does mean you have to stay in AZ longer

> becuse you can't wear boots?

> Dorene

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LOL sounds like me during our honeymoon period except I didn't break anything

just ended up on crutches for 3 weeks!

Re: Pam

Donna,

You are gonna laugh your tail off when I tell you this. My soon to

be DH and I were chasing each other around the bedroom yesterday

afternoon and he lundged at me to try and catch me and when I jumped

ot avoid being caught, I kicked the dresser corner with my left

foot. We heard something crack and in about 20 minutes time my foot

was black and blue, swollen and hurting quite a bit. So...off to the

ER we went. Verdict....Broken foot. Now in a cast and on crutches.

Now that you guys are all laughing, and I'm sufficently embarrassed,

but hey....Now, I'm getting waited on hand and foot and am getting

dinner cooked for me by soon to be DH. Soon to be step DS & DD are

teasing us unmercifully about it.

Live and learn...Been staying off it as much as possible. When not

sleeping due to Vicodin for pain, I've been on the couch most of the

day with foot propped up. My soon to be DD did go to the store and

buy me some yarn so I could start crocheting.

I hobble over here to the computer to check postings.

Have a great evening, ladies.

Hugs to all,

pam

> Pam, Sis how in the world did you break your foot??????

>

> Huggs, Donna C

>

>

>

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LOL!!! Now I don't feel so bad. The only thing is we're not married

yet. Oooooooooops!!!

Pam

> > Pam, Sis how in the world did you break your foot??????

> >

> > Huggs, Donna C

> >

> >

> >

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It's not too bad being waited on. I keep getting told not to get

used to it. But yes, I'm enjoying it though.

How's everyone's morning? Not bad here. Just gonna work on my

crocheting today and check postings off and on.

Hope everyone is well and having a good, well as good can be

expected, for a Monday.

Hugs,

Pam

> > > Pam, Sis how in the world did you break your foot??????

> > >

> > > Huggs, Donna C

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Never too old for those games...LOL!!!!! Should have seen us

explaining what happened to his parents yesterday when they came

over. Well, I was redfaced he wasn't he kinda laughs it off and

says, don't guess you'll run from me again. Oh yes I will...it can't

happen everytime. Can it? I'll know next time to be more aware of

furniture. I've discovered feet give before furniture. LOL!!! I

told him that when I get back to Ky and people ask what happened..I

say did it!!!!

And thanks , now I don't feel so alone. But I will say it was

worth it. I know he's feeling better.

Hugs,

PAM

> Pam, LOL A few years back DH was trying to grab my butt I was

running from him and he jumped over the porch rail and sat there and

screamed Holding his foot... I said YEAH OK I AM Not falling for that

And wouldn't go near him thinking he was kidding lol OPPS He wasn't

lol Cast and Crutches lol Everytime the Dr asked what happened he'd

go red and He'd say I jumped over the porch rail ..... One Dr Told

him he was too old for that game........

>

>

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Tracie,

I am taking it easy. I was told that yesterday. And i have an

excellent babysitter. Well, a couple of them.

Thank you for the concern. It's nice to know so many worry.

Hugs,

PAM

> You better take it easy, Hon! You are going to hurt yourself even

> more by not resting. lol, easier said than done when you are always

> on the go! HUGS! Tracie

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You're welcome . My soon to be DH just came in and I will

have to go soon too. Take care and healing prayers to Katey.

Hugs,

pam

> > As you all know, Bean has been having problems with her

ears

> since her first ear infection at a week and 6 days. She has had

2

> more since, and actually is now in the middle of one that is just

not

> going away even with antibiotics. She seems to be following in

> and a's footsteps with the ear problems. She just finished

her

> 2nd round of strong antibiotics and went last night for her 10

day

> follow-up. Well, she still has an infection, but it is in the

right

> ear this time. My favorite doctor, Dr. Thad, decided to put her

on

> 30 days of antibiotics for now to see if that will get rid of at

> least this infection. But, he said the next step is tubes.

Since

> and a each had tubes inserted at about a year of age,

it

> does not surprise me. We have to pick up her prescription

tonight,

> and she takes it only once a day at bedtime for 30 days. Giving

our

> little Bean medicine is not easy, she spits most of it out, so

this

> will be a challenge! We tried the pacifier medicator, and it

works

> better than just the syringe, but only when she is being

cooperative.

> >

> > She's still a happy baby, though, so thank God for that!!

> >

> > Hart

> > Wife to Jon, Love of My Life

> > Mom to 4 -Ari (16)

> > a (7)

> > (4)

> > and (My TR Baby) born 6/20/02

> > Glory to God and Many Thanks to Dr. Levin!

> > http://www.geocities.com/thehartclantx/Thehartclantx.html

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks Pam

I love chatting with all of the ladies here just doesn't seem to be enough

time in the day. My cousin's and I have been working on a family tree and

family reunion and well by the looks of it September will be here before we

know it I am just hoping that I will have a new addition to the family to

take with me.

Re: Update on me!

> ,

> I hope your hand gets better soon. That has to be horrible. Take

> care of yourself. We will always be here.

> Take it easy and relax. No one laugh at that. Just because I don't

> know how to do it myself, doesn't mean I can't encourage someone else

> too!! LOL!!!

> Soon Christmas will be over and hopefully stress will be reduced on

> everyone.

> Good luck, and take care

> Hugs,

> pam

>

> > Hello everyone. Sorry that I have not been online much lately but I

> got at 3rd degree and 2nd degree and 1st degree burn on my hand and

> well lets just say I cried for days. My hand has been so swollen that

> I had to take off my wedding bands and I have not done that with the

> exception of when I had my TR done. Things are getting hectic around

> here for Christmas and Greg's birthday (which is Christmas Eve). So I

> have not had a lot of time. Greg was so cute the other night. This is

> my first cycle on Clomid and well lets just say I knew that I was

> O'ing I was almost doubled over in pain on the right side LOL and

> well all he could say with this devilish look on his face was " I want

> to make a Baby!!! " . So far I have handled the Clomid well I did have

> a few hot flashes and was very intolerent with my MIL. But that is

> not unusuall. I just usually don't say anything to her but with the

> raging hormones I did let some things just burst out. I am starting

> to wonder if Timing and everything is right for a baby. I am doubting

> myself a good bit here lately. I have been getting really depressed

> and I don't really know why. But everything will be ok Hopefully.

> >

> > Love you all

> >

> > Looper

> >

> >

> >

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I hope you have a new addition to take with you as well. , I'm

not usually on this much, but I have a broken foot and have been

stuck resting, big time.

At the insistance of the ladies here and my soon to be DH, DS & DD.

I understand the family reunion thing is, as well. Good luck on

getting it planned and together by Sept.

Have a great day,

Hugs,

Pam

> > > Hello everyone. Sorry that I have not been online much lately

but I

> > got at 3rd degree and 2nd degree and 1st degree burn on my hand

and

> > well lets just say I cried for days. My hand has been so swollen

that

> > I had to take off my wedding bands and I have not done that with

the

> > exception of when I had my TR done. Things are getting hectic

around

> > here for Christmas and Greg's birthday (which is Christmas Eve).

So I

> > have not had a lot of time. Greg was so cute the other night.

This is

> > my first cycle on Clomid and well lets just say I knew that I was

> > O'ing I was almost doubled over in pain on the right side LOL and

> > well all he could say with this devilish look on his face was " I

want

> > to make a Baby!!! " . So far I have handled the Clomid well I did

have

> > a few hot flashes and was very intolerent with my MIL. But that is

> > not unusuall. I just usually don't say anything to her but with

the

> > raging hormones I did let some things just burst out. I am

starting

> > to wonder if Timing and everything is right for a baby. I am

doubting

> > myself a good bit here lately. I have been getting really

depressed

> > and I don't really know why. But everything will be ok Hopefully.

> > >

> > > Love you all

> > >

> > > Looper

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I have found that out while reading the posts and they are all right that is

where you need to be. RESTING!!!! But if you are like me it is very hard to

do so. You are in my prayers I hope you are feeling better soon.

Re: Pam

> I hope you have a new addition to take with you as well. , I'm

> not usually on this much, but I have a broken foot and have been

> stuck resting, big time.

> At the insistance of the ladies here and my soon to be DH, DS & DD.

> I understand the family reunion thing is, as well. Good luck on

> getting it planned and together by Sept.

> Have a great day,

> Hugs,

> Pam

>

> > > > Hello everyone. Sorry that I have not been online much lately

> but I

> > > got at 3rd degree and 2nd degree and 1st degree burn on my hand

> and

> > > well lets just say I cried for days. My hand has been so swollen

> that

> > > I had to take off my wedding bands and I have not done that with

> the

> > > exception of when I had my TR done. Things are getting hectic

> around

> > > here for Christmas and Greg's birthday (which is Christmas Eve).

> So I

> > > have not had a lot of time. Greg was so cute the other night.

> This is

> > > my first cycle on Clomid and well lets just say I knew that I was

> > > O'ing I was almost doubled over in pain on the right side LOL and

> > > well all he could say with this devilish look on his face was " I

> want

> > > to make a Baby!!! " . So far I have handled the Clomid well I did

> have

> > > a few hot flashes and was very intolerent with my MIL. But that is

> > > not unusuall. I just usually don't say anything to her but with

> the

> > > raging hormones I did let some things just burst out. I am

> starting

> > > to wonder if Timing and everything is right for a baby. I am

> doubting

> > > myself a good bit here lately. I have been getting really

> depressed

> > > and I don't really know why. But everything will be ok Hopefully.

> > > >

> > > > Love you all

> > > >

> > > > Looper

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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,

I am resting and yes it's very hard to do. However, I have a

wonderful bunch of people looking out for me, both on here and at the

house.

I'm lucky and blessed.

Thank you everyone.

Hugs,

Pam

> > > > > Hello everyone. Sorry that I have not been online much

lately

> > but I

> > > > got at 3rd degree and 2nd degree and 1st degree burn on my

hand

> > and

> > > > well lets just say I cried for days. My hand has been so

swollen

> > that

> > > > I had to take off my wedding bands and I have not done that

with

> > the

> > > > exception of when I had my TR done. Things are getting hectic

> > around

> > > > here for Christmas and Greg's birthday (which is Christmas

Eve).

> > So I

> > > > have not had a lot of time. Greg was so cute the other night.

> > This is

> > > > my first cycle on Clomid and well lets just say I knew that I

was

> > > > O'ing I was almost doubled over in pain on the right side LOL

and

> > > > well all he could say with this devilish look on his face

was " I

> > want

> > > > to make a Baby!!! " . So far I have handled the Clomid well I

did

> > have

> > > > a few hot flashes and was very intolerent with my MIL. But

that is

> > > > not unusuall. I just usually don't say anything to her but

with

> > the

> > > > raging hormones I did let some things just burst out. I am

> > starting

> > > > to wonder if Timing and everything is right for a baby. I am

> > doubting

> > > > myself a good bit here lately. I have been getting really

> > depressed

> > > > and I don't really know why. But everything will be ok

Hopefully.

> > > > >

> > > > > Love you all

> > > > >

> > > > > Looper

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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I made them for my daycare kids a couple years ago. I put their names on them

with fabric paint and some decorations. Every one of them still uses them.

:)

Pam

Pam,

I have tried different things to raise the money. So far nothing

else has worked out very well. I guess I was thinking of the Bible

verse that asks what we have in our hands. Well I have a stash of

material that I had no idea what I what going to do with. I have

been finding different apron patterns at yard sales. I really wanted

to make my granddaughter one for Christmas. I have figured out how

to do it without a pattern and that will be my first one. I have got

a selection of cookie cutters to go with it. Someone on the other

group was talking about being frugal and one way was to wear an apron

to help save wear and tear on their clothes. I was chicken about

mentioning my idea of making apron but I did it anyway. I was very

surprised and plesed at the response. It has really lifted my

spirtis and I am able to do things to day that I have been wanting to

for months but just couldn't get going at.

Hugs,

Dorene

> > Ladies,

> > I am on a frugal group. I mentioned that I wanted to start

sewing

> > aprons to raise money for something I wanted desperately. (I

din't

> > mention the TR) I immediately got orders for 7 aprons. I am so

> > excited. I have a stash of mateial and patterns so my first ones

> > won't cost me anything to make except for my time. It told them

I

> > would start on them after the first of the year. I am thinking

of

> > doing them assembly line fashion. I really think this TR is

going

> to

> > happen afterall.

> > Dorene

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Doreen,

Never be afraid to mention something. Girl, you will find you have

talents exclusive only to you.

I have a bunch of material pieces from my great grandmother to quilt

with but don't have the heart to use them because I'm afraid I'll

screw it up big time.

I can do counted cross stitch and crochet afagans, that's it. I have

no other artist talents. You're apparently blessed with the ability

to sew. Hon, I'm lucky to be able to sew on a button. No joke.

We're here to support and encourage you no matter what you try.

Remember that.

What else are friends for?

Go forth and create. And if you can make some money for it. Then you

have a true God given talent. Self confidence girl...keep telling

yourself I'm good at this and others should see how good you are.

Hugs,

pam

> > > Ladies,

> > > I am on a frugal group. I mentioned that I wanted to start

> sewing

> > > aprons to raise money for something I wanted desperately. (I

> din't

> > > mention the TR) I immediately got orders for 7 aprons. I am

so

> > > excited. I have a stash of mateial and patterns so my first

ones

> > > won't cost me anything to make except for my time. It told

them

> I

> > > would start on them after the first of the year. I am thinking

> of

> > > doing them assembly line fashion. I really think this TR is

> going

> > to

> > > happen afterall.

> > > Dorene

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Anytime, Doreen.

Right now all I can do is sit here and give pep talks and

encouragement. LOL!!!! The warden, I say that with love is

presently out of the house and told me to enjoy my time with you

ladies. Yippee!!!!

Hugs,

pam

> > > > > Ladies,

> > > > > I am on a frugal group. I mentioned that I wanted to

start

> > > sewing

> > > > > aprons to raise money for something I wanted desperately.

(I

> > > din't

> > > > > mention the TR) I immediately got orders for 7 aprons. I

am

> > so

> > > > > excited. I have a stash of mateial and patterns so my

first

> > ones

> > > > > won't cost me anything to make except for my time. It told

> > them

> > > I

> > > > > would start on them after the first of the year. I am

> thinking

> > > of

> > > > > doing them assembly line fashion. I really think this TR

is

> > > going

> > > > to

> > > > > happen afterall.

> > > > > Dorene

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