RE: protection for autistic son

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We were talking about this place on another autism list a while ago

http://www.northstardogs.com/index.htm

They train dogs to work with autistic kids for all sorts of things. They will

also give you information on how to train your dog for these sorts of things.

Check it out and maybe give them a call. It can't hurt.

Good luck!

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protection for autistic son

My son is severly autistic and is a " runner " . When he takes

off, it's for the sheer enjoyment of just RUNNING! Our family will

soon be adding another member, a golden retriever. I've heard that

you can train these dogs to actually protect and lead back an

autistic child. This is of course not our only reason for getting a

dog, we had a golden before and love the companionship, this breed is

one of the very best in temperament and intelligence. We watch

like hawks, have the security system, etc...but as many resources to

protect him as possible is needed. Can anyone give me a lead as to

where I might find the resources that does this type of training? We

are in the Kansas City area, but even if your not from here, one in

your area might have info on nationwide/worldwide. Thanks for any

help!!

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I know that it wasn't too long ago that a web site was posted about

training dogs for this reason. I would love to get a dog. I talked

to my landlord about us bringing 's dog here. That is the ONLY

dog Mark has ever liked and got along with. I thought because this

dog is young that maybe we could train it to help him, but the

landlord doesn't want pets in our apartment because of the new carpet

she just put in. BUMMER!!!

Tina W.

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Sara, With a dog like that can you take them in anywhere with you?

Like the store, restraunts, etc. Or did you have problems with

that? Just curious.

Tina W.

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If you have the dog trained and it is considered a " therapy animal " then the

landlord has to let the dog in by law. Hee hee.

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Re: protection for autistic son

I know that it wasn't too long ago that a web site was posted about

training dogs for this reason. I would love to get a dog. I talked

to my landlord about us bringing 's dog here. That is the ONLY

dog Mark has ever liked and got along with. I thought because this

dog is young that maybe we could train it to help him, but the

landlord doesn't want pets in our apartment because of the new carpet

she just put in. BUMMER!!!

Tina W.

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Yes you can :0) That is the nice thing.

Georga

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Re: protection for autistic son

Sara, With a dog like that can you take them in anywhere with you?

Like the store, restraunts, etc. Or did you have problems with

that? Just curious.

Tina W.

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> If you have the dog trained and it is considered a " therapy animal "

then the landlord has to let the dog in by law. Hee hee.

>

uhmmmmmm Maybe I should talk to about getting his dog in

training and then she would have to let him be here. What a thought.

But I don't want to piss her off because she has been so great about

everything else. What will happen most likely is we will wait until

Spring. Once our lease is up here will be looking for land or a

place to buy and if we can't get the finicing then we will look for a

place to rent in the country. But I know how much misses his

dog right now.

Tina W.-who can't spell nothing right today so forgive me.

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To legally be a service animal, an animal must be trained to provide one

service specific to a person's disability. A dog who independantly barks

before a person has a seizure is not a service dog. But that same dog,

*trained* to lick the person's hand before she has a seizure, IS a service

dog. (Assuming the person who

has seizures is legally disabled.)

Any animal which is legally a service animal must be allowed anyplace its

disabled person is allowed, with a very few exceptions, such as a dog going

on a roller coaster. No documentation or " proof " is required for access to

public places, and the animal does not have to wear any special " clothing "

or equipment marking it as a service animal.

Last I heard there was a new law that said the disabled person can be asked

what the dog does; people were fighting that because to answer would often

force a person to tell what their disability is, and that is an invasion of

privacy. (For example a hearing dog or a seizure alert dog - those

disabilities are " invisible " but saying " seizure alert dog " tells people you

have seizures. A disabled person should not should not be forced to share

private medical information in order to gain access to a public place.)

This was some time ago so I don't know what the status of that is now.

A service animal which is misbehaving can be made to leave, such as a dog

barking in a movie theater. The disabled person can NOT be made to leave -

they can take the dog out to the car and go back in, or whatever.

These are federal laws under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).

Some states have laws regarding service animals; whichever law gives more

freedom to the disabled person is the law that takes precedance. Usually

this is the federal law, but some states have laws giving service dogs in

training unrestricted access. Federal law does not provide for this.

Housing is not covered by the same laws that protect public access, but

there are laws protecting the right for " reasonable accommodation " and

service dogs fall under this. I believe you have to submit a request in

writing to your landlord for the reasonable accommodation of a service

animal. Usually people also give copies of relevant law and explanations

about service animals in general. I don't remember and it may have changed,

but you may have to provide general examples of what the animal does. It is

your responsibility to clean up after the animal and to remedy any damage to

the property caused by the animal. If the request is denied you can take it

to court.

We never had any problems at all taking Star anywhere. We took her to the

hospital and to therapy appointments. We took her to the grocery store and

the hardware store and just everywhere. We had not worked up to taking her

inside a restaraunt yet, but only because we felt she needed more training

before she could behave appropriately in a restaraunt. I even took her

places by myself and I would go in first and say, " I am training a service

dog. May I bring her inside? " Nobody ever said no. (A service animal

without its disabled person is not a service animal, and Ohio does not have

laws regarding service dogs in training.)

Check out the first web site - the danawheels one - lots of this kind of

information on there.

HTH! Questions welcome.

-Sara.

> Sara, With a dog like that can you take them in anywhere with you?

> Like the store, restraunts, etc. Or did you have problems with

> that? Just curious.

> Tina W.

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> If you have the dog trained and it is considered a " therapy

> animal " then the landlord has to let the dog in by law. Hee hee.

A therapy animal is different from a service animal. Therapy animals do not

have the same access rights as service animals. I don't know off-hand what,

if any, access rights therapy animals have.

Don't mean to nit-pick! But they are different things & I wouldn't want

anyone to be confused.

-Sara.