Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 I agree Gaylen Mandi in UK > > Have you used ABA program? > > > > o Yes, it cures my kid's autism as claimed. > > o Yes, but it is not working. > > > This poll sounds kind of stilted. Either it cured your child or it's not > working? What about adding some questions about it leading to major > improvements and one for some improvements. You don't have to have a full > cure from something to make > it a valuable intervention. If it helps, it's worth investigating. > > > o Yes, but it's not working and has bad effect on my kid. > > o Have not tried, considering about it. > > > > This also leaves out the possibility of someone not using ABA, not > currently > considering it, yet not necessarily thinking it is not natural and too hard > > on the kid. Perhaps they chose a different approach because the other > approach seemed more appropriate not because they thought ABA was hard on a > > child. > > Not wanting to cause any feathers to fly here but having spent a few years > working as a research study writer and pollster, I'd say this is what you > call a blazonly leading questionaire and not an appropriate way to get real > > information. Just my two cents... > G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 I agree with the post below. I could not take part in the poll as none of the answers apply to my child i.e. yes we have done and are doing ABA and , although not cured, continues to make steady progress. Sharon (UK) > In a message dated 8/21/02 5:35:27 AM Central Daylight Time, > @y... writes: > > > > Have you used ABA program? > > > > o Yes, it cures my kid's autism as claimed. > > o Yes, but it is not working. > > > This poll sounds kind of stilted. Either it cured your child or it's not > working? What about adding some questions about it leading to major > improvements and one for some improvements. You don't have to have a full > cure from something to make > it a valuable intervention. If it helps, it's worth investigating. > > > o Yes, but it's not working and has bad effect on my kid. > > o Have not tried, considering about it. > > > > This also leaves out the possibility of someone not using ABA, not currently > considering it, yet not necessarily thinking it is not natural and too hard > on the kid. Perhaps they chose a different approach because the other > approach seemed more appropriate not because they thought ABA was hard on a > child. > > Not wanting to cause any feathers to fly here but having spent a few years > working as a research study writer and pollster, I'd say this is what you > call a blazonly leading questionaire and not an appropriate way to get real > information. Just my two cents... > G > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 I agree with Sharon and Gaylen. > I agree with the post below. I could not take part in the poll as > none of the answers apply to my child i.e. yes we have done and are > doing ABA and , although not cured, continues to make steady progress. > > Sharon (UK) > > > > > > > This poll sounds kind of stilted. Either it cured your child or > it's not > > working? What about adding some questions about it leading to > major > > improvements and one for some improvements. You don't have to have > a full > > cure from something to make > > it a valuable intervention. If it helps, it's worth investigating. > > > > > o Yes, but it's not working and has bad effect on my kid. > > > o Have not tried, considering about it. > > > > > > > This also leaves out the possibility of someone not using ABA, not > currently > > considering it, yet not necessarily thinking it is not natural and > too hard > > on the kid. Perhaps they chose a different approach because the > other > > approach seemed more appropriate not because they thought ABA was > hard on a > > child. > > > > Not wanting to cause any feathers to fly here but having spent a > few years > > working as a research study writer and pollster, I'd say this is > what you > > call a blazonly leading questionaire and not an appropriate way to > get real > > information. Just my two cents... > > G > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 I'd also like to bring up that while we did not use a strict ABA approach, my son's Pre-K Teacher did use an ABA style approach alot and also used the book " Behavioral Intervention For Young Children With Autism " by Maurice, Green and Luce in her classroom extensively. It did help my son but I don't have a place to enter my vote based on the selections. Suzanne > In a message dated 8/21/02 5:35:27 AM Central Daylight Time, > @y... writes: > > > > Have you used ABA program? > > > > o Yes, it cures my kid's autism as claimed. > > o Yes, but it is not working. > > > This poll sounds kind of stilted. Either it cured your child or it's not > working? What about adding some questions about it leading to major > improvements and one for some improvements. You don't have to have a full > cure from something to make > it a valuable intervention. If it helps, it's worth investigating. > > > o Yes, but it's not working and has bad effect on my kid. > > o Have not tried, considering about it. > > > > This also leaves out the possibility of someone not using ABA, not currently > considering it, yet not necessarily thinking it is not natural and too hard > on the kid. Perhaps they chose a different approach because the other > approach seemed more appropriate not because they thought ABA was hard on a > child. > > Not wanting to cause any feathers to fly here but having spent a few years > working as a research study writer and pollster, I'd say this is what you > call a blazonly leading questionaire and not an appropriate way to get real > information. Just my two cents... > G > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 I have never considered ABA as I was told my child was too high functioning to get any help from it. Can you recreate the poll? > > In a message dated 8/21/02 5:35:27 AM Central Daylight Time, > > @y... writes: > > > > > > > Have you used ABA program? > > > > > > o Yes, it cures my kid's autism as claimed. > > > o Yes, but it is not working. > > > > > > This poll sounds kind of stilted. Either it cured your child or > it's not > > working? What about adding some questions about it leading to > major > > improvements and one for some improvements. You don't have to > have a full > > cure from something to make > > it a valuable intervention. If it helps, it's worth investigating. > > > > > o Yes, but it's not working and has bad effect on my kid. > > > o Have not tried, considering about it. > > > > > > > This also leaves out the possibility of someone not using ABA, not > currently > > considering it, yet not necessarily thinking it is not natural and > too hard > > on the kid. Perhaps they chose a different approach because the > other > > approach seemed more appropriate not because they thought ABA was > hard on a > > child. > > > > Not wanting to cause any feathers to fly here but having spent a > few years > > working as a research study writer and pollster, I'd say this is > what you > > call a blazonly leading questionaire and not an appropriate way to > get real > > information. Just my two cents... > > G > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 > > > Have you used ABA program? > > > > > > o Yes, it cures my kid's autism as claimed. > > > o Yes, but it is not working. > > > o Yes, but it's not working and has bad effect on my kid. > > > o Have not tried, considering about it. > > > o Will not ever try, it sounds not natural and too hard on the > kid. > > Why is this poll created? What's the purpose for this? Looks pretty religious to me, since none of the relevant choices are actually included. Also, note, in the current answers 3 people say it " cures " their child's autism. I don't believe it, as if it did they wouldn't be bothering with this list. I will post a legitimate poll and encourage people to answer it. This, like all other interventions, does deserve to be evaluated by PARENT input from a reasonably neutral group since the professional input on essentially all therapies is so seldom accurate. Since this group is so interested in chelation, it should count as a fairly neutral group for ABA. I would encourage people who are posting polls to not phrase them in this kind of slanted and inflammatory language as it will make others mad at them and that isn't productive. Andy . .. . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 What about: o I believe ABA is helping my child. o ABA is clearly helping my child but other interventions are helping too. o My child has made significant progess using ABA but is not cured. o My child has made great progress using ABA but has made greater progress in some areas since chelating. Personally I find this new poll just as unworkable as the last one Celia [ ] New poll for > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > group: > > ABA survey: please answer this > regardless of whether you are using ABA > or no > > o My child has been declared cured by a doctor and I only used ABA. > o My child has been declared cured by a doctor and I used ABA + other things. > o My doctor thinks ABA is helping my child. > o I think ABA is helping my child but my doctor doesn't. > o I do not believe ABA is helping my child. > o ABA made my child worse. > o ABA made my child worse and professionals agree. > o I have not used ABA but am interested in doing so. > o I do not intend to use ABA. > o I believe ABA is too cruel to be morally acceptable. > o ABA started to work a lot better after chelation. > o ABA started to work a lot better after nutritional supplements. > o ABA started to work a lot better after yeast treatment. > o ABA started to work a lot better after going GFCF. > o ABA works but my child seems to have a lot more tension and anger than other children the same age. > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > /surveys?id=968290 > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the > web site listed above. > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Mine all got them at a Private facility. I doubt the Oregon Dept. of Health would give single shots - they probably just don't know what you're talking about. M. Bothwell Waters & Kraus, LLP 200 Oceangate, Suite 520 Long Beach, California 90802 Tel: (562) 436-8833 Fax: (562) 590-7296 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 The email i'm refering to is an inner office memo that's dated July 18, 2001, regarding the (4) recent lawsuits filed in Multnomah County (Mead's was one). Although all the info isn't accurate, much of it is. Here's the paragraph that made me wonder. " The combination of vaccines being used in Multnomah County Health Clinics over the last three years does not provide a risk to our clients. Theorically, too much mercury could have been given if more than two vaccines containing thimerosal were administered during each visit before the child was six months old, but our selection of vaccines prevented this situation from happening. Most vaccines today are thimerosal-free with the exception of some adult vaccines such as Hepatitis B, flu vaccine and pneumococcal vaccine. None of those vaccines are available without thimerosal. " She goes on to say that " two recent studies done by Northern California Kaiser, Group Health ative/University of Washington and Harvard Pilgrim Health Care. Results did not indicate a correlation between autism and mercury. " But, " if a client reacts to a vaccine within 30 days of receiving that vaccine and seeks medical attention, an Vaccine Adverse Event Form must be completed and sent to the CD office. " (think she means the CDC) So I don't know if the state was privy to info earlier than others?? In the other paragraph she says " in 1998, the government requested that vaccine manufacturers produce vaccines without thimerosal because of the theorical risk from the mercury. " When I read the IOM report I thought it was from May or June of 1999? Sincerely (mom to 3 boys) Cody almost 8 NT Collin 7 MIA (Mercury Induced Autism) Connor 14 Months Perfect and Vaccine-free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2002 Report Share Posted December 23, 2002 I'd put the bare essentials for just trying chelation at ALA, vitamin C, E, and some epsom salts. Plus an alarm clock which most people already have. Total cost to try it is probably under $20, certainly under $30. If it works, you can squeak by with a few hundred dollars over the next few years and get them better. . . . .. . . . . Andy . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . > Jo, > > I can see your point. I looked at it the other way around, too. I'm > screwed if my children grow up while I'm waiting on the government to > change. So I went down to Wal Mart, bought the $6.00 bottle of ALA & began > chelation. > > > > > If we can't change things through our > government, then I for one am screwed because I can't afford to do > chelation, > > . . . I can read about chelation and how to help my kid all day long > but if I don't have the money to do this or insurance won't cover it, > what's > the point. > > Jo > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2003 Report Share Posted February 11, 2003 Hello, whoever started this poll, can you give me the statistics for Canada's incidence of Autism? I have spoken to two people very knowledgeable on the vaccine issue and Autism in Canada. Both told me there are not any hard statistics. Thanks, http://www.childscreen.org http://www.momsonamissonforautism.org --- In , wrote: > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > group: > > In Canada, childhood vaccines do not > contain mercury, yet the incidence of > autism is the same as in the U.S.A. > > o Do you have an autistic child whose exposure to mercury is unknown? > o If yes, was chelation effective? > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > /surveys?id=1036246 > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the > web site listed above. > > Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the group: What age would you say your child developed autistic symptoms? o Before age 1 o 12-18 months o 18-24 months o 24-36 months o after age 3 To vote, please visit the following web page: /surveys?id=1036433 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the web site listed above. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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