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Hi again Rita

Fwiw, my memory of Catholic Grace is having made confession and being

absolved and fit to receive Communion, but that was a long time ago,

and I may be wrong. I had a pretty traumatic experience as a

child about taking Communion when I thought I wasnt in a State of

Grace, which blighted me well into after I had renounced the religion.

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Fwiw, my memory of Catholic Grace is having made confession and being

>absolved and fit to receive Communion, but that was a long time ago,

>and I may be wrong. I had a pretty traumatic experience as a

>child about taking Communion when I thought I wasnt in a State of

>Grace, which blighted me well into after I had renounced the religion.

>

>P.

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This brought back memories of being a 8 or 9 year old kid

and getting into a dark, scarey confessional booth and trying

to " think up " some sins to confess. Often times, I couldn't

think of anything bad, so I'd make something

up. Afterwards I would quickly say the prayers I was told to

say. So, I guess I was absolved from sins that I didn't even

commit. Hey, maybe I actually have a few coming to me? (chuckle)

Sue

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> This brought back memories of being a 8 or 9 year old kid

> and getting into a dark, scarey confessional booth and trying

> to " think up " some sins to confess. Often times, I couldn't

> think of anything bad, so I'd make something

> up. Afterwards I would quickly say the prayers I was told to

> say. So, I guess I was absolved from sins that I didn't even

> commit. Hey, maybe I actually have a few coming to me? (chuckle)

i did the same thing!!!! made up sins for confession, that is. the

penance was always the same, something like 2 Hail 's and an Our

Father. i remember someone did something REALLY bad once and had to

say an Apostle's Creed.

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Oh No! Not the Apostle's Creed! It musta' been a doozie!!!

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>Subject: Re: Re: Rita: Grace

>Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:23:29 -0000

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> > This brought back memories of being a 8 or 9 year old kid

> > and getting into a dark, scarey confessional booth and trying

> > to " think up " some sins to confess. Often times, I couldn't

> > think of anything bad, so I'd make something

> > up. Afterwards I would quickly say the prayers I was told to

> > say. So, I guess I was absolved from sins that I didn't even

> > commit. Hey, maybe I actually have a few coming to me? (chuckle)

>

>i did the same thing!!!! made up sins for confession, that is. the

>penance was always the same, something like 2 Hail 's and an Our

>Father. i remember someone did something REALLY bad once and had to

>say an Apostle's Creed.

>

>judith

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Let us now turn to page 69 of our XA hymnal and all together, in the

spirit of our brotherhood, sing " I've Been Redeemed " Please lift up

your voices to your individual higher powers.

I've been redeemed by the sins of my sponsor.

Filled with the higer power I am.

All my sins are washed away I been redeemed.

He Led a life of sin and strife

Screwed around with the preachers wife.

Poor sad slob he didn't see the light

Till his higher power almost took his life

I've been redeemed by the sins of my sponsor.

Filled with the higer power I am.

All my sins are washed away I been redeemed.

Then he hit the Oxford Group

Where he met B double u

He just picked up his 29th chip

Thinking we'd forgot about his 28 slips

I've been redeemed by the sins of my sponsor.

Filled with the higer power I am.

All my sins are washed away I been redeemed.

But that's ok cause he's such a great guy

I know it's true because he told me so

He's lived his life by the 12 and 12

With only a thirteenth now and then

I've been redeemed by the sins of my sponsor.

Filled with the higer power I am.

All my sins are washed away I been redeemed.

Re: Re: Rita: Grace

Speaking of the Apostle's Creed, everytime I hear that BS about

" Religion is for those who fear hell, spirituality is for those

who've already been there, " I think, " Oh, so if you're an alcoholic

you're like Jesus! " And the other night I sat in a meeting while one

of the AApostles talked about all the terrible things that happened

to him and said, " You don't have to go to jail, end up homeless,

etc... because I've already done it for you. " Oh, so your suffering

has redeemed me. Glad to hear it, Bud.

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At 02:21 AM 4/22/00 -0000, you wrote:

>you're like Jesus! " And the other night I sat in a meeting while one

>of the AApostles talked about all the terrible things that happened

>to him and said, " You don't have to go to jail, end up homeless,

>etc... because I've already done it for you. " Oh, so your suffering

>has redeemed me. Glad to hear it, Bud.

I've often seen the idea that some people's drinking keeps others

sober. One 15-year-sober guy went up to a woman who had been in the

program for a while but just picked up a white chip and said " Thank

you for drinking, so I don't have to. I'm sorry you drank, but I'm

glad it was you and not me. "

Then there's the NABA club, which has the slogan " so others may live " ,

which is from the statement that " some have to die so others may live " .

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Ben, all this might give a cynic cause to wonder if the AA cult might

be practicing human sacrifice, in a modern and semi-respectable

sense.

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> I've often seen the idea that some people's drinking keeps others

> sober. One 15-year-sober guy went up to a woman who had been in the

> program for a while but just picked up a white chip and said " Thank

> you for drinking, so I don't have to. I'm sorry you drank, but I'm

> glad it was you and not me. "

> Then there's the NABA club, which has the slogan " so others may

live " ,

> which is from the statement that " some have to die so others may

live " .

>

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> http://listen.to/benbradley

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