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NYC does not have an ordinance requiring registration of commercial burglar

alarms directly with the police department. We rely on the alarm company

to have the contact information.

There is an ordinance that requires any audible alarm to automatically

silence after 10 minutes for a building, or 15 minutes for autos (New York

City Administrative Code 24-221). However, the ordinance does require

that, " Any motor vehicle on which a burglar alarm has been installed shall,

when parked on a public highway or parking lot open to the public,

prominently display the number and telephone number of the owner's local

police precinct where information shall be on file to permit communication

with the owner of such motor vehicle. "

Also, the department has a chronic abuser alarm procedure to terminate

future responses.

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I agree with you, Jeff, to a certain extent. However, I have talked to

alarm companies who did not

have any emergency contact info. I wondered why they were still monitoring

the alarm if no one

cared enough to be notified?

It definitely takes up many of my hours weekly updating that kind of

information in our CAD.

Chris

northern KY

[personal] RE: 911:: Fw: Alarm Ordinances

While I understand the concept behind needing this information, I think

it may be slightly redundant. The monitoring alarm company has key holder

and owner information of the account, and that information can be obtained

by contacting the alarm company. I worked for a Monitoring Company prior to

working 911 and I can tell you that these records are up to date because

that’s how they get paid. That information is current so that the check

comes in for sure.

The problem with Police, Fire, EMS or 911 getting this information is

that business and owners and emergency contacts change so often, and while

you may have a list it may not be current. In a part time agency I dispatch

police for, we see this quite often. We call the contacts only to find they

do not work there anymore or no longer own the business.

With those thoughts in mind I think it may be easier to just let the

alarm companies keep the information and pull from the resources if needed.

Just a thought on my part.

Jeff Noonan

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All I can say is, big difference between where you used to work and the ones we

deal with. Either they can't reach anyone on the call list or they have no call

list, and the bill goes to the business address. I have much better luck going

into our records system and looking up where we've been there on a previous

call. And if I take the time to look it up, I update the CAD file to reflect

the info!

Kim

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may be slightly redundant. The monitoring alarm company has key holder and owner

information of the account, and that information can be obtained by contacting

the alarm company. I worked for a Monitoring Company prior to working 911 and I

can tell you that these records are up to date because that?s how they get paid.

That information is current so that the check comes in for sure.

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business and owners and emergency contacts change so often, and while you may

have a list it may not be current. In a part time agency I dispatch police for,

we see this quite often. We call the contacts only to find they do not work

there anymore or no longer own the business.

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companies keep the information and pull from the resources if needed. Just a

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In a message dated 8/26/04 7:57:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, KD4IIW@...

writes:

Does any jurisdiction out there on the web have in place an alarm ordianace

that forces commercial properties to provide for emergency contacts and keep

those

lists up to date with the effect of fines or other penalties?

This is our alarm section:

_http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/cgi-bin/bvgwin/egov/page.jsp?aolFX=y & pm=Departm

ents%7CPolice & sm=Alarm+Registr_

(http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/cgi-bin/bvgwin/egov/page.jsp?aolFX=y & pm=Departmen\

ts|Police & sm=Alarm+Registr)

And this is the county ordinance.. I didnt read it in its entirety but I

hope it helps.

_http://library3.municode.com/gateway.dll/GA/georgia/3496?f=templates & fn=defau

lt.htm & npusername=10878 & nppassword=MCC & npac_credentialspresent=true & vid_

(http://library3.municode.com/gateway.dll/GA/georgia/3496?f=templates & fn=default\

..ht

m & npusername=10878 & nppassword=MCC & npac_credentialspresent=true & vid)

Toni Wyman, CTO /Tactical Dispatcher

Gwinnett County Police Department

Lawrenceville, GA

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