Re: New Borderline Mom book/informative website

[Guest guest]

It's the woman's eyebrows... shudder! Like she has some damaging secret about

YOU that she's just holding onto for the perfect moment to slap you with it in

public (or in a snide aside as my Nada did) and then I would shut down in a

gathering and everyone would look at ME like I was weird. Nice... now I see how

constructed that was.

BTW, I took the " online personality test " and scored " low " in every category.

Guess it's save to leave your kids with me ;o)

Lynnette

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> I got an e-mail about a new borderline mom book that came out this September

called " Borderline Mom: a quick and dirty manual of emotional self defense for

children " that discusses how to weigh up your personal options with a borderline

nada and has chapters on setting boundaries or cutting off contact

altogether.The pic of the " mom " on the front cover is a doozy,too--wow does SHE

look familiar...

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> The book is reviewed somewhat on the following website that also has

several good articles about BPD mothers/parents,recent media coverage of the

subject of BPD,and a couple of articles on recent scientific research.The person

doing the website sounds very well informed about the issues that face us as

KOs.I thought you guys might find the articles there useful,too.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, that is a scary bpd-mom-face on the cover of that book, with those

extremely-arched eyebrows (which I suspect may have been manipulated to enhance

the expression of disdain and ratchet up the creepy quotient, in Photoshop.)

Thanks for the link and heads-up, . I took that on-line personality

test too (the link to that is way down the web-page) and came up " low " in every

category except " paranoid " and " histrionic " which came up as " moderate. "

I know I have a hard time trusting people, it takes me a while to feel safe with

a person until I get to know them better, but I'm referring to adults. (I don't

feel mistrust of children.) And to tell the truth, I don't see being somewhat

skeptical of how trustworthy a new acquaintance/potential friend or date is as

being a bad thing; I see it as erring on the side of caution or safety.

But the moderate rating as " histrionic " surprised me! Huh! I'll have to ponder

that a bit and read more about histrionic pd.

-Annie

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called " Borderline Mom: a quick and dirty manual of emotional self defense for

children " that discusses how to weigh up your personal options with a borderline

nada and has chapters on setting boundaries or cutting off contact

altogether.The pic of the " mom " on the front cover is a doozy,too--wow does SHE

look familiar...

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> > The book is reviewed somewhat on the following website that also has

several good articles about BPD mothers/parents,recent media coverage of the

subject of BPD,and a couple of articles on recent scientific research.The person

doing the website sounds very well informed about the issues that face us as

KOs.I thought you guys might find the articles there useful,too.

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[Guest guest]

I have huge trust issues, too, according to therapist... but we're both of the

midset to say, DUH! Why they didn't register here, I have no idea.

An interesting thing about this ladies face, ex-SO was looking at my Facebook

friends and saw my Nada. He's never met her. He said, " She scares the H#%#LL

out of me... she has CRAZY EYE'S... if I never meet her, I'm good with that. "

So, I went back a few days ago and looked at her through another set of eyes...

he's 100% correct.

Have you ever looked at pictures of your Nada with someones elses eyes? Try

it... what happened?

Lynnette

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September called " Borderline Mom: a quick and dirty manual of emotional self

defense for children " that discusses how to weigh up your personal options with

a borderline nada and has chapters on setting boundaries or cutting off contact

altogether.The pic of the " mom " on the front cover is a doozy,too--wow does SHE

look familiar...

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checking out.

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> > > The book is reviewed somewhat on the following website that also has

several good articles about BPD mothers/parents,recent media coverage of the

subject of BPD,and a couple of articles on recent scientific research.The person

doing the website sounds very well informed about the issues that face us as

KOs.I thought you guys might find the articles there useful,too.

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[Guest guest]

My nada comes across as angelic and appealing to other people, even in her

pictures. Friends of mine who've met her only a couple of times think she's

adorable. But if anyone were to take a picture of her during her " the mask is

off " times, alone at home with Sister or dad or me, they'd see almost a

different person. The mask comes off when she feels " safe. " Very " Jekyll and

Hyde " , my nada.

-Annie

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September called " Borderline Mom: a quick and dirty manual of emotional self

defense for children " that discusses how to weigh up your personal options with

a borderline nada and has chapters on setting boundaries or cutting off contact

altogether.The pic of the " mom " on the front cover is a doozy,too--wow does SHE

look familiar...

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several good articles about BPD mothers/parents,recent media coverage of the

subject of BPD,and a couple of articles on recent scientific research.The person

doing the website sounds very well informed about the issues that face us as

KOs.I thought you guys might find the articles there useful,too.

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[Guest guest]

" The Mask " .... (crawling out from under my desk to respond)....

I've taken pictures, accidently, when the mask was off. Crowd shots. Not a

happy scene. Nada tries for the " precious waif " look in her pictures, head

tilted, big lopsided grin, squinty eyes.... but the eyes are the give away...

cold as steel. I think maybe she saw it and that's why she's been pushing on

the eye lift so hard... have to change it... any way she can.

LYnnette

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September called " Borderline Mom: a quick and dirty manual of emotional self

defense for children " that discusses how to weigh up your personal options with

a borderline nada and has chapters on setting boundaries or cutting off contact

altogether.The pic of the " mom " on the front cover is a doozy,too--wow does SHE

look familiar...

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checking out.

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> > > > > The book is reviewed somewhat on the following website that also

has several good articles about BPD mothers/parents,recent media coverage of the

subject of BPD,and a couple of articles on recent scientific research.The person

doing the website sounds very well informed about the issues that face us as

KOs.I thought you guys might find the articles there useful,too.

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[Guest guest]

I have several different kinds of photos of nada--most of them with her flashing

her supermodel smile but a couple when she was caught off guard and the

craziness in her face is nausea-making,for me.Nada is--or was until very

recently--physically " beautiful " and photogenic and she's got the smile flash

down pat with dimples and doe eyes and the whole alluring attractiveness

shebang--but--

Ten years or so ago in London I showed a boyfriend a pic of nada and me and

baby brother from when I was about three.He murmnured, " Hhhm,that's odd...She's

smiling and she's lovely but my first thought when I looked at her was that she

somehow resembles Myra Hindley... "

That would be the infamous " Moors Murderess " who helped her boyfriend

abduct and murder several children...I still have that photo and he was right:

she just kind of does look like Myra Hindley somehow,even though nada was

prettier (on the outside,hhhhmmm).It's this shadow of psychopathy on her smiling

face...

I think of that photo now as her " Myra Hindley " pose...The true scary

" face of contempt " I don't have captured on film,just burned in memory lol...

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September called " Borderline Mom: a quick and dirty manual of emotional self

defense for children " that discusses how to weigh up your personal options with

a borderline nada and has chapters on setting boundaries or cutting off contact

altogether.The pic of the " mom " on the front cover is a doozy,too--wow does SHE

look familiar...

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> > > > Obviously I haven't read it but it looks like it might be worth

checking out.

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> > > > The book is reviewed somewhat on the following website that also has

several good articles about BPD mothers/parents,recent media coverage of the

subject of BPD,and a couple of articles on recent scientific research.The person

doing the website sounds very well informed about the issues that face us as

KOs.I thought you guys might find the articles there useful,too.

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[Guest guest]

So you know I had to look up Myra Hindley... if you dig around, you find her

childhood and teen years filled with various griefs and then she went 'wild.'

The episodes of what she did, what she didn't do, her academic history and her

reactionary tendacies to anything she deemed boring or mundane are very, very,

eerily similar to my Nada's.

So, what made her snap?

While Nada is crazy in that BPD way, she isn't, nor would I ever suspect her to

be, physically harmful to the degree of murder. Do you think that Myra

intentionally set out to kill for the rush or it was a bad situation that got

out of control and went bad? Then became addictive?

Thoughts?

Lynnette

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September called " Borderline Mom: a quick and dirty manual of emotional self

defense for children " that discusses how to weigh up your personal options with

a borderline nada and has chapters on setting boundaries or cutting off contact

altogether.The pic of the " mom " on the front cover is a doozy,too--wow does SHE

look familiar...

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checking out.

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> > > > > The book is reviewed somewhat on the following website that also

has several good articles about BPD mothers/parents,recent media coverage of the

subject of BPD,and a couple of articles on recent scientific research.The person

doing the website sounds very well informed about the issues that face us as

KOs.I thought you guys might find the articles there useful,too.

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[Guest guest]

Well,I've read that Myra Hindley was a sociopath/psychopath and

excitement/getting a rush is the only thing that reminds these types that they

even have a pulse--they cannot exist without it and it's all relative to

them,doesn't particularly matter where it comes from,although when there is a

element of risk/total control over the helpless/causing harm and watching a

sentient being suffer,then it's even more fun for them.Just going to work

everyday and paying the bills is way beneath them,merely yawn worthy.

My nada needed that rush too and got it mostly from keeping me on the edge

of death,putting me in situations where I was tortured--and she could " watch " me

suffer.But she was too canny to actually go out and committ crimes,like Myra

did,that she might be caught doing.When she was a teenager she engaged in

promiscuous sex and if you saw my post about it,picked up male hitchhikers to

" tease " them,which would have been a rush.But she wasn't the type to go out and

" find " victims in the general population to kill.

I guess there must be a continuum of severity even for sociopaths and that

there are the kinds who go so far as to murder for a thrill while there are

others who find their rush of excitement in less extreme forms of exploiting

others--having control of others doing their bidding,tricking others for their

own benefit,using manipulation to seduce.I think Hervey Cleckley (sp?) the

" psychopath expert " did say that most sociopaths are more of the " garden

variety " type whose need for extreme stimulation causes much harm to others on a

scale much less than outright murder--and usually involves taking others for a

ride financially and/or emotionally.

I've read that Myra Hindley wasn't the brightest bulb in the box and that

she idolized her psychopathic boyfriend to the point of uncritically

participating in his crimes.Their relationship seemed to be a case of two

horrendously sick people with a very low threshold for tolerating mundane

routine daily life coming together and seeking out thrills and excitement the

easiest way they knew how--by preying on the weakest of the weak,small

children.I think it was Myra's dimwitted idealization of her boyfriend along

with her own practically non existent moral sense and belief in a personal

entitlement to " special excitement " in her life that made her go along with and

participate in the killings.She was so low and twisted that " getting away with "

such outrageously criminal behavior actually gave her life meaning.She could

have volunteered to read to the blind or something to give her existence some

purpose--but that would have been too boring for Myra.Being the consort of a

child rapist/murderer made Myra special,I think,as far as she was concerned.That

was her daring-do and that was the rush.I actually don't think she did snap--she

was already morally snapped before she met her boyfriend and probably in her

mind he made her feel whole.

She's an extreme case--most people with sociopathic tendencies never go

that far--they're more swindler than murderer.

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> > > > > > I got an e-mail about a new borderline mom book that came out this

September called " Borderline Mom: a quick and dirty manual of emotional self

defense for children " that discusses how to weigh up your personal options with

a borderline nada and has chapters on setting boundaries or cutting off contact

altogether.The pic of the " mom " on the front cover is a doozy,too--wow does SHE

look familiar...

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> > > > > > Obviously I haven't read it but it looks like it might be worth

checking out.

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> > > > > > The book is reviewed somewhat on the following website that also

has several good articles about BPD mothers/parents,recent media coverage of the

subject of BPD,and a couple of articles on recent scientific research.The person

doing the website sounds very well informed about the issues that face us as

KOs.I thought you guys might find the articles there useful,too.

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[Guest guest]

Me personally, I got the impression from reading the material about Myra Hindley

that she is a true psychopath lacking a conscience, lacking empathy, and lacking

remorse, and probably participated in the actual physical torture of the young

victims as well.

A police interviewer said his impression was that her 17-hour confession was

highly calculated and a true " performance. " Keep in mind that psychopaths are

also highly manipulative, adroit liars and will often rewrite history to make

themselves the victim.

The ability to execute cold, calculated and *sadistic* torture and murder for

the sake of sexual gratification, such as Daumer and Albert Fish and Ted

Bundy also committed, puts them in my opinion in a completely different category

of human being: sub-human, reptilian, or demonic.

It puts them in the " inhuman monster " category.

-Annie

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> > > > > > I got an e-mail about a new borderline mom book that came out this

September called " Borderline Mom: a quick and dirty manual of emotional self

defense for children " that discusses how to weigh up your personal options with

a borderline nada and has chapters on setting boundaries or cutting off contact

altogether.The pic of the " mom " on the front cover is a doozy,too--wow does SHE

look familiar...

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> > > > > > Obviously I haven't read it but it looks like it might be worth

checking out.

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> > > > > > The book is reviewed somewhat on the following website that also

has several good articles about BPD mothers/parents, recent media coverage of

the subject of BPD,and a couple of articles on recent scientific research.The

person doing the website sounds very well informed about the issues that face us

as KOs.I thought you guys might find the articles there useful,too.

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